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in the beginning of June at COMPUTEX 09 AMD and TSMC demonstrated working Evergreen card and GPU (according to some opinions it was Juniper, and to others it was Cypress). So there you have three months: June-SeptemberQuote:
Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle
I'm talking about the figures he posted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nedjo
well if AMD said that they've shipped 800K of chips 'tll the Christmas, I guess there's now way to do it in 25. September - 25 December timeframe!? So they needed to manufacture significant quantities months before the launch. Right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle
3 Million DX_11 GPU on 2009 says AMD on the financial conference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle
Until March they can reach 10 million or more with the Redwood, Cedar on desktop and the top-bottom mobile GPU's. From January until March is a entire Quarter.
Which would mean that it would have to be more then 20k-40k right? In order to correlate any comparison between Fermi's available to Cypress/Juniper availability we need to know if TMSC was in the same manufacturing capacity. From what I recall TMSC was not. So, I don't see how one can make such a comparison.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nedjo
any link for transcript from the conference?Quote:
Originally Posted by v_rr
For the record playing with tags is against the rules here and we can/do track who adds on and can/do give infractions for messing with the system.
At the end of the day good tags = traffic for XS, so let's leave them be, OK guys?
Roger that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Serra
The old Fermi threads were all started around August/Sept.. so here's to idle specualtion.. and lots and lots of waiting.
Aug09 - when Fermi comes out in the fall its going to DESTROY everything
Sept09 - Ha Ha, Cypress is just 2x 4870. Fermi for the WIN.
Oct09 - Ok ok, a few weeks late.. its TMSC fault, duh.. PS: That's me in the facebook page photo
Nov09 - See!?... see!? Its a real card. They are just putting finishing touches.
Dec09 - DX11 doesn't really matter.
Jan10 - DX11 DOES matter.
Feb10 - ....?
so the guess is late feb to mid march for a fermi launch? i want to buy nvidia but the old ati stuff outruns it for cheaper and the new ati stuff kills it for the same price... i need to replace my 9600GT
god job at pointing out nvidias 180 spin on dx11 deimos :D
they did it in a smart way, they kept saying dx11 doesnt matter, and then started pushing tesselation and how awesome and important tesselation was... well guess what, tesselation is the main feature dx11 is buit around :D
"DX11 doesn't matter" Actually stems from Computex '09.
And NO I don't have any factual numbers on the pre-release amounts besides what I hear from AMD. When I heard 20 to 40.000..
I said.. wafers, right?
no ... cards!
It is rather amusing isn't it, I mentioned that earlier in the thread how ironic that DirectX 11 is not quite so insignificant now ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by saaya
The big n do get rather annoying at times with their PR and Spin, but I can see what they were saying. At the time they made that statement there were no DirectX 11 games available.
John
IT doesn't affect you or me as an end-user. But that statement wasn't meant for you or me. It was directed at System Builders and Developers.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnZS
Edit: Nedjo, Computex demo's were displayed on Evergreen Broadway : Juniper.
I think that was number of units "sold" as in ordered. Not necessarily produced yet. And pretty sure that report included the Mobility 5000 series products as well, a majority of which have not been delivered yet, and only recently publicly announced. But I'm sure they secured orders for them from the big companies months ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by v_rr
At least, the last report about millions of ATI DX11 GPUs was posted here, someone incorrectly assumed it meant units shipped. But by now, 3 million shipped seems possible. :shrug:
hope too. I have sold in few hours my three GTX 285 and now I have to wait Fermi :yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by RoadconeTuning
I'm sure Fermi will allow you to play those games you couldn't with your 3 GTX 285's.Quote:
Originally Posted by gifaro
they said 2 million units shipped, i think that makes it pretty clear. Dunno why everyone doubts ati/amds announcement, they delivered on everything they said, all releases came as announced, no delays etc., we have no reasons to doubt itQuote:
Originally Posted by kgk
SLi doesnt scale as well as you'd think especially in mmo type games that are seriously CPU bound; adding to that overhead with SLI does more harm than good.Quote:
Originally Posted by annihilat0r
Im waiting for them as well and infact just picked up a 240GTS for my Physx card; I have full confidence that nVidia can pull this off; abeit very late but meh.
Thats how nv does it and thats why many people don't like it. But I'll be getting like 2 of those fermies when they become avaible anyway... Most likely. Got used to nv iq for the past years too much.Quote:
Originally Posted by saaya
By the way,"it looks like" nv works on the 2nd gen of the fermi cards already:D:
http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/17387/1/
Fermi 2 is gonna rock since the basic frameworks seems very strong but first they need to send fermi 1 out of the gate
well i dont think the problem with fermi1 was the design... at all... the problem with fermi1 was/is tsmc...Quote:
Originally Posted by ajaidev
unless nvidia realizes that leaning that much on tsmcs shoulders isnt such a great idea and change their overall strategy, i dont think fermi2 will be any more successful than fermi1... :shrug:
Indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by ajaidev
so now we are waiting for fermi 2
As Jen-Hsun Huang said himself "If you don't have products, you talk about the future"Quote:
Originally Posted by eric66
From the department of Evangelism.