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11-11-2008, 02:47 PM
GeorgeVasil

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Originally Posted by e.v.o

http://www.asktheramguy.com/v3/showthread.php?t=57334
Can someone list all bugs and things that are not working properly on the board and can be refered as bios related problems?

Sata Ports Hungs @ Last Bioses

The vNB - vFSB >= 0.11-0.15.Other wise Mobo Hungs on restart

Pull-ins not working..

With LoadLine Calibration enabled the Mobo if u give 1.7v to cpu mobo overvoltage's to 1.84v.

Pcie>100Mhz >500FSB --> No post..

thats for me..
11-11-2008, 03:18 PM
JoeBar

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Originally Posted by GeorgeVasil

Pcie>100Mhz >500FSB --> No post..

I can confirm it also and it's pretty annoying... :mad:
11-11-2008, 03:53 PM
SiGfever

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Originally Posted by JoeBar

I can confirm it also and it's pretty annoying... :mad:

Hello Joe, long time no see. Glad to see you posting again my friend.
11-11-2008, 04:40 PM
e.v.o

Why would you increase PCIe? Normally you set it to 100 and leave it that way (for a good reason..). So i don't think thats an issue of the board.

Also, normally you will disable LLC if you do really extrem OC where you need such high vCores. But, is this confirmed? Do you have some Screens or anything like that?
11-11-2008, 05:07 PM
Grnfinger

Quote:

Originally Posted by e.v.o

Why would you increase PCIe? Normally you set it to 100 and leave it that way (for a good reason..). So i don't think thats an issue of the board.

Also, normally you will disable LLC if you do really extrem OC where you need such high vCores. But, is this confirmed? Do you have some Screens or anything like that?

I have yet to see this over volt issue, but I have only been as high as 1.60 vCore.
I can confirm Pull-ins are not working and it would be very nice if they started to work:D
I can boot with PCI-E set to 103 up till 495 fsb after that it wont post unless its set to 100.
Have never had the FSBT, NB volt hang issue that others speak of, but thats not to say is not present. Cryptik has tested this issue and I would take his word as truth.
The port hang from the last 2 bios release was a major dissapointment to us Raid users so it would be nice if that could be corrected for the next release unless this is Asus way of forcing the Speeding HDD option on us:rofl:

Bios is maturing but the options that make this board a ROG line are not function properly and this need to be address'd accordingly.
Would hate to have to jump ship and fly the Gigabyte flag :ROTF:
11-11-2008, 07:10 PM
SiGfever

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Originally Posted by Grnfinger

IMO the bios is in its infancy stages, once Asus gets there act together this board should do rather well.

Dram clock skew doesnt work as well as it should, pull-ins do not work, so in all honesty can you say for sure that GTL's are working correctly?
I tried for days to get 4.0GHz stable with no luck, setting GTL's with positive values and negative values still didnt help, if anything it made matter worse.
GTL's on auto and I had the chip stable in 20 mins. Now the rumor is the next bios release will include further overclocking options...more that wont work I assume
Asus has done a stellar job with the eye candy on this board, now if the could do the same with bios support I think we would have a winner here.

So you run them on Auto now?
11-11-2008, 07:49 PM
screwtech02

Quote:

Originally Posted by e.v.o

Why would you increase PCIe? Normally you set it to 100 and leave it that way (for a good reason..). So i don't think thats an issue of the board.

Also, normally you will disable LLC if you do really extrem OC where you need such high vCores. But, is this confirmed? Do you have some Screens or anything like that?

Setting it higher will gain you greater bandwidth on the pci-e i do believe. It certainly incresed my 03/06 scores on my X38 chipset, most ive been able to bet outa this MFII is 105.....:shakes:

And Asus says that they dont support "overclocking", maybe they need to work on "bios engeineering".....:ROTF:
11-11-2008, 11:33 PM
EaglePC

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Originally Posted by Vega

Hi gays,

I have just put in this baby in my rig and have some questions. I went from DFI X48 T2R.

ATM I use the white slots for Dimm, is that ok?
What I can see people recommend bios 1307, right?
Does Asus prope and bios read right temps on this board, my cpu temps is way higher than with DFI?
Does this board like NB voltage? I will go for ~4.4-4.5Ghz for 24/7 use....

Of course I come back later with full bios settings when its starting... :)

FORGET IT SATA 2 HANG just like 1403:rofl:
11-12-2008, 01:27 AM
vab206

w00t finally got my rig stable @ 1:1 ratio, running 533FSB w/ 7.5 multi, (dosent like 8) only changed the bare minimums from auto like dram timings, pl, fsb, cpu ratio. voltages are:

CPU Voltage: 1.35000
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.60600
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.25900
DRAM Voltage: 2.10475 (as listed on my ram)
NorthBridge Voltage: 1.35175
CPU GTL Refrence (1): +40mV (left this setting from previous OC, could probably set it to auto as well)

Dram Static Read, Dram Read Training, Load Line Calibration, CPU Spread Spectrum, PCI-e Spread Spectrum all set to disable.

PL is set to 10 (lowest i can get it /sadface)
Mem OC Charger is Enabled

Clock twister is set to moderate, ive never been able to boot with anything over that, anyone have a suggestion on what i can change to get to to strong or stronger, every other setting is set to auto.

May try 1.4 or 1.45 vcore tomorrow to see if i can get it 533x8 stable, temps are @ 66C under full load, 50C idle... if it raises too much w/ that vcore i may just wait til i get my SS running.

man its gonna be a pita to insulate this board... /facepalm
11-12-2008, 01:45 AM
e.v.o

Do other Boards make higher PCIe Frequencies?
There are many devices connected to the PCIe bus and if you overclock them, they could become instable.
So if you put your System back to 333/400 FSB and test this behavior again, i would think it would also drop out at ~105MHz. Can you confirm that?
11-12-2008, 01:59 AM
Vega

Quote:

Originally Posted by EaglePC

FORGET IT SATA 2 HANG just like 1403:rofl:

I have no problem at all with bios 1307...so far! :yepp:
11-12-2008, 02:24 AM
humeyboy

I used to run 101 or 105 or 110 PCI-E on my Striker Extreme (680I), it was not to get more out GPU but it seems to help stabilise high FSB OC's (pure example, you crash at 450FSB but set PCI-E to above 100 and its now stable).

115 is about the Max Safe level most peep will sue going by reading over the eyars.
11-12-2008, 02:26 AM
CryptiK

Quote:

Originally Posted by vab206

w00t finally got my rig stable @ 1:1 ratio, running 533FSB w/ 7.5 multi, (dosent like 8) only changed the bare minimums from auto like dram timings, pl, fsb, cpu ratio. voltages are:

CPU Voltage: 1.35000
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.60600
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.25900
DRAM Voltage: 2.10475 (as listed on my ram)
NorthBridge Voltage: 1.35175
CPU GTL Refrence (1): +40mV (left this setting from previous OC, could probably set it to auto as well)

Dram Static Read, Dram Read Training, Load Line Calibration, CPU Spread Spectrum, PCI-e Spread Spectrum all set to disable.

PL is set to 10 (lowest i can get it /sadface)
Mem OC Charger is Enabled

Clock twister is set to moderate, ive never been able to boot with anything over that, anyone have a suggestion on what i can change to get to to strong or stronger, every other setting is set to auto.

May try 1.4 or 1.45 vcore tomorrow to see if i can get it 533x8 stable, temps are @ 66C under full load, 50C idle... if it raises too much w/ that vcore i may just wait til i get my SS running.

man its gonna be a pita to insulate this board... /facepalm

I have run 533FSB PL8 and Ram @ 639.6 MHz, Clock Twister = Stronger, Static read enabled, dram read training enabled. Don't be afraid of vNB if you want to stabilize it.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=1589
11-12-2008, 02:46 AM
WaterFlex

CryptiK
Mega 24/7 setup. GJ !
11-12-2008, 12:59 PM
JoeBar

Quote:

Originally Posted by SiGfever

Hello Joe, long time no see. Glad to see you posting again my friend.

Hi m8! :toast:
Nice seeing familiar faces... :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by e.v.o

Why would you increase PCIe? Normally you set it to 100 and leave it that way (for a good reason..). So i don't think thats an issue of the board.

Quote:

Originally Posted by e.v.o

Do other Boards make higher PCIe Frequencies?
There are many devices connected to the PCIe bus and if you overclock them, they could become instable.

U get a performance boost in vga an hd. No it is an issue, cause u aren't limited by the connected devices but from the mb itself...
Yes, every board that i had for the last 3 years run @ 110mhz pcie.
11-12-2008, 01:05 PM
JoeBar

BTW this is my stable settings, till now... :)

http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/5...s45ghzrbu5.jpg
http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/o...pg/1/w1280.png
11-12-2008, 01:11 PM
WaterFlex

JoeBar
Wow. Nice one. Can you share your Bios settings of this, please?
11-12-2008, 01:17 PM
JoeBar

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Originally Posted by WaterFlex

JoeBar
Wow. Nice one. Can you share your Bios settings of this, please?

The most important ones.

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Dram Read Training : Disabled
MEM OC Charger : Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [10]
PCIE Frequency : 100

CPU Voltage : 1.375v
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50v
Vtt : 1.4180v
DRAM Voltage : 2.10v
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49v
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.52v
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.12v

All other on auto and timings are 5-5-5-15
11-12-2008, 01:22 PM
WaterFlex

Thank you. Will try it soon.
11-12-2008, 01:28 PM
JoeBar

U're welcome. :)

Here's everest mem bench run

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/8383/everestog3.jpg
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/e...jpg/1/w541.png
11-12-2008, 01:34 PM
WaterFlex

If I were you, I`d go to 600 Mhz memory. If you do it, you can advance you PL from 10 to 9, because NB blocks low PL on ratio 1:1. You will have something like my 10500 Read
11-12-2008, 01:39 PM
JoeBar

Thanks for the advice. :)
I haven't yet fully tuned my system. I was planning on testing 1200mhz mem but i don't think that my 2x2gb pc8500 mushkins will be stable...
I'll give it a shot though...
11-12-2008, 01:45 PM
Grnfinger

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeBar

Thanks for the advice. :)
I haven't yet fully tuned my system. I was planning on testing 1200mhz mem but i don't think that my 2x2gb pc8500 mushkins will be stable...
I'll give it a shot though...

You can get those Mushkin's to 1200MHz with this

Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Advanced 350ps
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Normal
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Advanced 350ps
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Normal

DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 5
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 65
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 5

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 10
Write to Read Delay (S) : 4
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 6
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 5
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 16
Read to PRE Delay : 6
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 6
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 6

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Dram Read Training : Disabled
MEM OC Charger : Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual

I have 2x2 Mushkin XP2-8500 and they hit 1200MHZ stable with that setup @ 2.2 volts. You take a slight read bandwidth hit but nothing serious
11-12-2008, 01:50 PM
JoeBar

I should cut the scotch... :p:

Just realized that i'm @ 530mhz fsb (not 500x9), which gives me 1280mhz as the next available option and no go for my mushkins.

I will take the time and test 500x9 with 1200mhz mem and see the performance diffs, although i prefer 530mhz for now... :)
11-12-2008, 01:53 PM
WaterFlex

500x9 with 1200mhz mem would be the best for 24/7, mate :)

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