Wrong thread, dude. Check out the Maximus II thread for settings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lusken
Wrong thread, dude. Check out the Maximus II thread for settings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lusken
Alright! Thanks everyone, you all have been a great help.
I managed to move my fsb-wall from to 455 to 488 by changing the fsb:mem divider from 1:1 to 5:6. My ram will then run at 11008Mhz which is very high imho for 800Mhz ram. I also did not get the 4.4Ghz stable but thats because i did not want to raise mem voltage.
I have OCZ Titanium XTC RAM and was wondering what the max voltage is +- cuz im running it on 2.3v now (1088Mhz stable) (set to auto in bios)
When on 800Mhz it needs 2.064 according to bios readings, but that might be the maximus pushing it. (it works on 1.8 too for 800MHz set manually)
My temps rise like crazy when oc-ed to 4.2+, @4Ghz max 42degrees, at 4.2+Ghz going to 100%load gets it INSTANTLY 49 degrees? (all apps, its not very high but the instant-thing didn't feel good to me.
Bottom question is: Is 2.4v too much for 800Mhz 1.8v ram? (going to buy 1066 this week anyway, but like oc-ing more then "just upgrading")
Quote:
Originally Posted by 19*12 gamer
2.4 volts might be a little xtreme for the ram, I would get a fan on them
And what about the voltage, won't i fry them? I can keep them cool, no problem:)
1.8 to 2.4 is big jump, better keep em cool :cool:
I would general agree with this as excessive voltage will kill ram faster than any thing else(i know from experience from Athlon XP days...), I'm not sure what your memory ICs are rated for, however it would behooveyou(like myself with other tings)to look in forums/topics that cover your memory if you don't already know the specs for the memory. This way you can save your self some RMA time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
I have ran my GSkills at 2.3 volts for months 24/7 no issues, I think heat will larger factor that volts on your dimms.Quote:
Originally Posted by 19*12 gamer
You can check with the rep on XS
Hey guys!
So I received my new Q9550, SLAWQ Batch # L818B188.
My Maximus Formula has Rampage Formula Bios Revision 308 and my ram is 4gb Mushkin Ascents PC-8500 2.10V
The max FSB I could get with everything to auto was 440, 445 = bluescreen, freeze, crash... I'm on air cooling (TRUE-120 + Scythe Ultra Kaze 3000RPM) but I'll buy my last watercooling pieces in some weeks.
I'd like to have it rollin at 3.6ghz or 3.8ghz, as stable as possible with the most performances for air cooling I can get for the moment.
EDIT : Updated - Tweaked it a bit myself looking at previous Grnfinger bios post...seems very stable, can it be tweaked more?
Quote:
CPU Feature
Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU Level Up [Auto]
CPU Ratio Control [Manual]
Ratio CMOS Setting: [8.5]
FSB Frequency [435]
FSB Strap to North Bridge [333]
PCIE Frequency [100]
DRAM Settings
DRAM Frequency [DDR2-1045]
DRAM Command Rate [Auto] (CPU-Z = 2T)
DRAM Timing Control [Manual]
CAS# Latency [5]
RAS# to CAS Delay [5]
RAS# Precharge [5]
RAS# Active Time [15]
RAS# To Ras# Delay [3]
Row Refresh Cycle Time [55]
Write Recovery Time [6]
Read To Precharge Time [3]
Read To Write Delay(S/D) [8]
Write To Read Delay(S) [3]
Write To Read Delay(D) [5]
Read To Read Delay(S) [4]
Read To Read Delay(D) [6]
Write To Write Delay(S) [4]
Write To Write Delay(D) [6]
DRAM Static Read Control [Disabled]
Ai Clock Twister [Moderate]
Transaction Booster [Enabled]
Common Performance Level [Auto]
Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled
Voltage Settings
CPU Voltage [1.3750V] (CPU-Z = 1.352V)
CPU PLL Voltage [1.50]
North Bridge Voltage [1.51]
DRAM Voltage [2.10v]
FSB Termination Voltage [1.40]
South Bridge Voltage [1.050]
Loadline Calibration [Enabled]
CPU GTL Reference [0.65x]
North Bridge GTL Reference [0.67x]
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage [DDR2-REF]
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage [DDR2-REF]
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage [DDR2-REF]
SB 1.5V Voltage 1.50
Found nice 8500 sticks from Corsair at local store: :)
Name:XMS2-8500 /4096 MB /1066 MHz/DDR2/ Voltage 1,8 V //
Latency 5-5-5-15-2T
tested 100% stable @1600Mhz according to Corsair.(no voltage mentioned)
They also have a 2.1V version, i guess this one is the better one because it runs on lower voltage at the same speed+timings?
I really want to get the ram today:D
wow :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by 19*12 gamer
Got a model number for that ram?Quote:
Originally Posted by 19*12 gamer
yep, but I could not find it on Corsair's site, so i called the store to ask what voltage was stated on the dimms themself and it said 1.8v.
Part number: xms2-8500 or TWIN2X4096-8500c5 i guess.
http://www.mycom.nl/Products/View/Co...R2/198643.aspx
They are the 4th in this list of test rapports from ASUS:
http://www.corsair.com/testreports/r...tner_id=238134
seems they hit 555-18@1.8v and 555-15 @2.1... :(
Thats good enough to me but not realy fair to state what the store was stating about this ram.
The picture is wrong on mycom website, they are the modules with xms2 on it, not dominator dimms.
Maybe the tested at 1600Mhz stable is wrong information from the store, but the most important thing to me was that they were running on 1066Mhz and needed 1.8V for it. I wont go over 1200Mhz anyway.
Can someone please help me?
I am at 3.4 with a e6600(planing to upgrade to a qx9550 sometime in the near future) and i have hit a wall and cant get it to be stable after this.
My bios settings are as follows:
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 850
DRAM Command Rate : Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Auto
CPU Voltage : 1.425
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : Auto
DRAM Voltage : 2.16
FSB Termination Voltage : Auto
South Bridge Voltage : Auto
Loadline Calibration : disabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled
I do believe you mean 1600 Rated FSB not 1600MHz, I would think Corsair would be the only ram company in business if that were true:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by 19*12 gamer
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/b...QX9650OCEG.jpg
RAM is set @ 2.3v with a corsair RAM cooler modded with San Aces :)
Pushed it higher but no screenshots of ity atm. Just killed my windows install trying to get 435 x 10 to boot again :rofl:
~Bex
The 1600Mhz was a error on the website of the seller,
my ram is Corsair twin2xcms2-8500c5 and runs 55515@2.1v and 55518@1.8v both @1066Mhz. runs stable around 1200 so that should not be the problem.
Weird thing is: I can POST up to 572*7 but i cant get 500*7 stable in windows. (orthos, small)
I got to 572 by using settings that Zucker2 here post #3.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/Forums/...hlight=barrier
I had to change RAM to 55518 1.8v to boot, but that crashed starting windows.
I think i should be able to get to +-4.6 stable as my bios is stable on 4.55Ghz on 1.3V. I just dont know which settings to change/raise.
Please help :(
p.s will flashing maximus to rampage improve max OC/FSB?
Since I speak dutch I think i can clear this up for you guys. The memory is indeed only 1066mhz ram; it merely states its been fully tested to run on 1600mhz compatible motherboards (like our beloved 'rampages'), not that it runs at 1600mhz... That would be simply amazing and they would never sell it at a store as n00b-like as mycom... :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by 19*12 gamer
Okay, is there anyone here that has a E8400 E0 at FSB500+ that is willing to post all (relevant) bios settings? (or changes compared 2 defaults)
I'm really hungry for new things to try as i have the whole weekend to get my system stable on 4.5+Ghz.
I will post all Voltage readings from Bios@7*570 around 19:00, i hope someone knows what i need to change.
And is 1:1 better for MAX OC then 5:6? My system doesnt seem to like 1:1 :mad:
I will post my setup tonight when I arrive homeQuote:
Originally Posted by 19*12 gamer
Do you guys think that going to 2x2Gb instead of 4x1gb of ram would do any better for overclocking the CPU?
You need 1.4+ volts for 3.4GHz?Quote:
Originally Posted by Machine#17
I think your chip will not scale very well and you might be at its limit
Anyways you have to much set to auto
I can post a nice 3.6GHz template but it was done with a quad core.
I'm sure you can adapt the settings
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1081
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 4
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 8
Read to Precharge Time : 4
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 9
Write to Read Delay (S) : 5
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level [7]
Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled
CPU Voltage : 1.38
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
OK thank you for your response.
What would be a good NB voltage, I'm running 8GB of Mushkin XP2-6400 at 4-4-4-12 and 2.05 volts.
@Askimo;
Thanks for your help.
I've read alot about 4x1GB sticks stressing your NB more then 2x2GB, making it more unstable at high oc, but thats all i know. (i just got 2x2GB for that reason)
Im tweaking for weeks now and new ram xms2-8500c5 is running 1.8v@1080 55518 and cpu- and NBtemps are always lower then 42 degrees load so i must get 4.5+Ghz stable imo.
Having my bios stable @7*572 :shocked: and not getting 7*470 stress-stable is not very cool :confused:
@Hockster; 1.65 works for me i run 2x2gb 1080 2.1v 55515.
I got my BIOS stable @ 8*500 but booting vista gives th error message:
"image corrupt, cannot boot system"
(9*460 is stressing stable@1.304Volt idle and load)
My settings are:
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 500
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1142
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : light
Transaction Booster : AUTO
CPU Voltage : AUTO //reads in BIOS: 1.35v
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50 // 1.58v
North Bridge Voltage : 1. 65 // 1.648v
DRAM Voltage : AUTO // 2.304v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.50 // 1.408v (vdroop?)
South Bridge Voltage : AUTO
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : AUTO
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : AUTO
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Advanced CPU Configuration = everything disabled, multi =8
What might be the problem? Temps are always under 42 degrees C.
Update on my progress:
Managed to get Orthos small FFT's stress test stable for 73 seconds. (Vista is "stable", i can surf and Orthos Gromacs Core test does not fail)
I lowered a lot of the voltages: (all temps stay below 42degrees C)
My settings are:
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 470
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-941
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
Ai Clock Twister : light
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax: 1
CPU Voltage : AUTO //reads in BIOS/cpuz/cpuid: 1.304v
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50 // 1.58v
North Bridge Voltage : 1. 51 // 1.51v
DRAM Voltage : AUTO // 2.1v
FSB Termination Voltage : AUTO // 1.408v (vdroop?)
South Bridge Voltage : AUTO
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : AUTO
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : AUTO
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
I tried transaction relax level 0;no POST, and setting :2 boots but stress test fails after 14seconds :mad:
Have you tried a Rampage bios yet?
just flashed it to Rampage but that makes it harder for me to tweak.. any suggestions?
Why, it has more options to help stabilize your rig.Quote:
Originally Posted by 19*12 gamer
I couldn't flash to Rampage at all, I follow the guide on page 1 but I got error BIOS file not compatible. My q9450 stable @ 470x8, never go over that with what ever voltage I send to CPU, NB, VTT....
I flashed it to rampage, its a bit more complicated now but i get most of the settings and got 8.5*500 stress stable for 18+ minutes:
@Thanh55: make a bootable USB stick as the first page instructs and use the afudos command listed there, I flashed Rampage Formula 0410.rom in it that way.
I stopped the test after 18 minutes, all temps stayed below 44 degrees C , im gonna leave it running tonight :)
My settings for that oc are:
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5 :)
FSB Frequency : 500 :)
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1002
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: disabled
Ai Clock Twister : lighter
Transaction Booster : auto (0-30 dont get this??)
CPU Voltage : AUTO //reads in BIOS/cpuz/cpuid: 1.304v
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50 // 1.58v
North Bridge Voltage : 1. 51 // 1.51v
DRAM Voltage : AUTO // 2.1v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.6// 1.5v
South Bridge Voltage : AUTO
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : AUTO //Dont get this 2
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO //and this (0.67*-0.62* = %?)
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : AUTO
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Havent tried lowering voltages for this OC yet...
Tried for 3 hours to get 800*9 working but could not boot windows nomatter what, while 520*8.5 is able to boot vista and make screens but not stress the system...
@19*12 gamer
I'm not a big Maximus (Rampage) Formula expert, but here are my 5 cents:
- disable both DRAM Static Read Control & Transaction Booster (Disable - Relax Level 0) at first. This will make it less stressful for northbridge
- consider loosening Row Refresh Cycle Time (say 45 - 50, once again to make sure it's not the memory that's holding you back)
- try setting FSB Strap to North Bridge to 400 - sometimes helps to achieve higher FSB
- try to avoid as much voltages set to AUTO as possible, set them manually
- vcore is way too low for the clocks you want, set it manually, so that bios monitoring / CPU-Z reads at least 1.35 under load
- up the PLL a little - this sometimes helps when OCing at high FSB with a high multiplier
- same for Norhtbridge, set it to 1.55
- FSB Termination Voltage seems too high for me, maybe lowering it to 1.35 - 1.4 will help?
- if none of the above helps play with PCI-Express Frequency (different values between 100 - 110) and / or toggle PCI-Express Spread Spectrum
Your FSBT is way to high 1.40 max in bios.Quote:
Originally Posted by 19*12 gamer
take your NB to 1.55 it should help
Thanks, will try it out. The transaction booster gives me only the option to enable and has a setting of 0 - 30 ?? Does this setting effect oc?
sorry double post
@19*12 gamer: still have the same error..hmmm. Have to stuck with 1207 BIOS.
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3208&p=2
More than likely this has been posted but i find it a fairly good read as there is a lot of info in this review that explains some basic but mystifying aspects of the maximus/rampage formula board to new comers.
19*12 gamer; i think one reason you are having issues is because of the decrease of your multiplier witch in return is forcing you to use a higher *FSB to reach the clock speed you are going for. The problem is that the higher FSB in conjunction with the lower multiplier is causing some sort of stress on the north bridge when it tries to communicate with the system memory.
I had an issue with a particular set of values i was trying to use to obtain 3.6 with my Q6600(instead of 400x*9 450*8 was suggested), now this is not a knock against that individual as they where just trying to help.
I did not change voltages or any other setting other than the ratio/FBS, when i tried to test a few times afterward(for statical averaging purposes) i not only failed the Intel burn in test/Prime 95, but my machine would BSOD/hang as where it would just fail before(400*9 apposed to 450*8) and i could still use the OS.
I think it might have something to do with how it(the processor)negotiates with the memory controller in the north bridge when it comes to handling data transactions with the systems memory bus. Some thing to the affect of to large of a ratio skew in terms of the CPU to NB to Memory binding(best i could picture it ATM).
I could be wrong about all of that, and wouldn't mind if i was told so. I would just like to see supporting evidence to learn/confirm otherwise.
Do most people who flash to the Rampage Formula rom's have more luck with overclocking higher fsb?
Yes, generally. The Rampage bios seems to make things more stable as you go higher. It won't always help you gain more MHz as this is very much silicon dependent but it will help.
Hello, what is the advantage of flashing to rampage bios? Better oc capabilities? Faster or what's the deal?
And what bios is recommended for the rampage?
Please read the thread instead of asking questions that have been answered at least 50 times already.
RF 410 bios lists improved memory compatibility.
Can i just flash the bios provided by asus to my P5E or does it need modification first?
I'm happily running 403 atm, provided on the first page, but i cant get the board to POST with 2 sticks... (Sticks tested in a p5b deluxe)
I made it to 4.5Ghz to bad it needs 1.45V
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Thanks everyone, I think I made it to my goal, just trying to get the voltages down a bit and trying to stress the system harder because orthos can run for hours now
My settings are:
Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 500
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1000
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: disabled
Ai Clock Twister : light
Transaction Booster : auto (0-30 I still dont get this setting, there is NO relax)
CPU Voltage : 1.46//reads in BIOS/cpuz/cpuid: 1.448v
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.58 // 1.664v
North Bridge Voltage : 1. 65 // 1.648v
DRAM Voltage : 2.2// 2.2v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.44// 1.344v
South Bridge Voltage : AUTO
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.62*
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67*
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : AUTO
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Gonna try Intels burn test now...
EDIT:This app is very scary, it took my cpu from 36 degrees up to 68 Degrees C in 1 second! I dont think this represents normal use, even with several stress tests the system never reach beyond 59 degrees..
My cpu is rated for 74Degrees max according to Intel, whats a safe max temp to run on? (I did pass the Burn tests)
Thanks again for assisting me
Any suggestions on how to test stability when it is already stable for hours of stressing the system with Orthos? (Even tried multiple tests simultaneous)
First Orthos sucks ass I have had many systems pass orthos and fail prime.
OCCT is better than Orthos
Second your NB and FSBT are way to high for 24/7 use.
Besides that nice job getting it stable.
What ram do you have running 1:1 you should be able to enable dram static, and run clock twister strong for much improved bandwidth.
please read that article i post from anandtech.com, it will explain how to set the common performance level correctly. However you need to read most/all the article as its not just covered in one set page.Quote:
Originally Posted by 19*12 gamer
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3208&p=2
there is a chart that lists the proper PL level for each strap/FSB
But its fairly basic stuff to figure out on ones own
yes, but for people that don't know what, why, or how CPL works in conjunction with other settings like FBS straps and other memory timings, it provides a good starting point to learn.
Thanks for your help, i will try to lower the NB voltage but i think i already tried that and i cannot lower it without losing stability.
FSB-T at 1.344v is too high? With the Transaction booster setting i only get stability problems, havent tried every possible setting yet tho. (Will try that tonight)
I can get into my desktop with 9*533 but cannot stress the system. I think I will go for 4.25Ghz @ 1.3V cpu and FSBT 1.25v. NB will need only 1.5 then. Seems like an ok-ish oc.
Just read anandtech article, very nice info indeed, maybe i can tweak even higher on lower Vcore since I've bin setting Loadline Calibration to enabled as disabled gave me (more) problems.
(Had to read the article 3 times to "fully" understand)
Good thing to read is that according to the article setting LC to enabled :banana::banana::banana::banana:s with your voltages, so I will test this statement, I certainly hope its true :yepp:
EDIT:After 2hrs of testing my first impressions are that they indeed tested a 6750 and the same does not work for a E8400 E0.:(
Setting Loadline Calibration off makes every cpuvoltage setting more unstable while maintaining the rest of the previously stable oc settings.
Makes me wonder what else does not apply for my cpu...
Anyway 4.1 seems a nice oc with about 1.28 vcore so i will stick with that i guess.
Rampage Formula well it OC my X3350 aka Q9450 and E8500 E0
i know the E8500 well get more fsb cuz its a dual core but what about the X3350 it has a x8 multi
its this or a P5E Deluxe idk much about the new chipsets im still on a P965 :p:
Hiya guys,
I'm wondering if you might be able to help me getting a decent overclock on my rig:
Maximus Formula (am looking for some boot media to flash to Rampage)
E8400 C0 @ Scythe Infinity
OCZ FlexXLC 6400 CL3 (runs 1066MHz CL5)
For some reason the processor does 9*400 fine but anything near 4GHz is subject to epic reboots and instability.
I've read quite some stuff in this thread already but for some reason no said settings work for me. For example I've used:
6*475
RAM @ 950 5-5-5-15
PCI Freq: 110
CPU Volt: 1.45
PPL: 1.6
NB: 1.65
DRAM: 2.3
FSBT/VTT: 1.4
SB: Auto
Loadline: Auto
CPU GTL: 0.63x
NB GTL: 0.67x
DDR Ref voltages: Auto
SB 1.5 Volt: 1.5
It was a no go. I'm curious whether my problem is the FSB (around 443 it's bootable, but not exactly stable), and how I can possibly fix this.
The whole rig runs perfectly cool and stable at 3.6GHz.
Idle:
Core 1 - 32
Core 2 - 28
CPU --- 23
NB ----- 28
The Northbridge doesn't heat up too much at all when putting 1.65v and stressing and neither does the CPU, it goes up to 50 at worst.
Any input would be much appreciated.
Are you stressing your cpu with OCCT or IntelBurntest? I noticed that apps like Orthos dont stress the system near as much as the better apps resulting in much lower temps.
I have Rampage Formula BIOS. And I just don't seem to be picking up these hole tRD, Ai Transaction Booster, Ai Clock Twister. I just can't seem to understand it. Can anyone teach me in a simple way?
I thought tRD = Transaction Booster(TB) = Performance Level(PL)Quote:
Originally Posted by ShawnTRD
When start oc you cpu you want to put the ram out of equation. So set:
Static Read: Disable
Clock Twister: Light or Moderate
TB: Manual > PL: set to 7 or 8 or 9 and so on that allow you to post depend on your straps , fsb and ram divider. Ideally you want to choose the lowest that allow you to POST/BOOT.
After finish oc the cpu and find it stable. Start messing with the ram to improve some latency and read.
Static Read: Enable > TEST > Clock Twister: Moderate or Strong > TEST again.
With the lowest PL level that you choose before start pulling some phases one at a time. Note that every divider has their amount of phases.
So pull in CHA PH1 , CHB PH1, CHA PH 4, CHB PH4, CHA PH5, CHB PH5....ONE at a time and see if it passes Memtest86+ first or even posts.
More hocus pocus here. Basics of Strap Selections, Dividers and Derived Memory Speeds
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparda
pull in CHA PH* ?
Change from Disabled to Enabled?
My maximus formula does not boot after I flashed Rampage Formula Bios 0403. All 3 leds are on but no picture, no beep, lcd post says cpu init but nothing happens. I tried to take out the battery, the ddr2 modules, vga card, I wait for hours and nothing. Can someone help me?
Unplug the power supply and wait 5 miuntes, if it doesn't post, clear cmos.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonojo
I tried that already and nothing!Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
Did you solve your problem? I'm having the same problem!!! Can you help me?Quote:
Originally Posted by M-XXXX
What CPU and RAM do you have? RF BIOS might not like what your running. Does you fans and stuff turn on? When you first start it after leaving the PSU off and resetting the BIOS are you giving it a minute to boot? Mine take 5 seconds or more to fire up after unplugging it.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonojo
Do you have an LCD poster? If you get a DET RAM, try booting with 1 stick, or a cheapo DDR2 ram.
Has anyone come up with a fan mod for the stock northbidge cooler(non SE)with a TRUE cpu heatsink installed?
I have been running with 1.49 FSBT and 1.58 NB since april and no stability problems ever. This is with Rampage bios and my system, is 24/7 stable at 533 fsb speed in all stressprograms.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
I got alot of ekstra fans in the case.
Before convertion to rampage maks fsb speed i could go was around 508-510. But with rampage bios and the possibilty to choose cpu gtl: 0,67 and Northbridge gtl 0,67 and performance level 9 i can run 537 mhz.
Everest score at 533 mhz here: http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/1...verest3bs9.jpg
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/5...jpg/1/w840.png
It is a quad 9300 with a patriot ddr2 1200mhz, the fans run but no picture.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShawnTRD
the lcd poster shows CPU INIT and stops there, I tried with one stick from a cheap kingston and nothing. The strange thing is that all 3 leds close to ddr2 slots go onQuote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
and there is no beep and no video.
Try removing the chip, clear cmos, and pull battery.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonojo
Wait 15 mins and remount the chip.
If its still an no go then looks like its RMA time.
Being a NON SE Asus will cross ship you another board but you have to request it.
forgive for my ignorance but where is locate the chip?Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
I think he's talking about the CPU.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonojo
I'm using a Q9550 got it running stable at 3.84GHz, but I can't seem to get it stable at 4GHz. When I boot into vista at 4GHz it freezes a few minutes later. Can anyone help to get it stable?
Heres my settings @ 4GHz:
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 471
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-942
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Lighter
Transaction Booster : Disabled
CPU Voltage : 1.33125
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60v
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51v
DRAM Voltage : 2.12v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.22
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.65x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50v
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
does anyone have a extra se heat pipe cooler/water block they may be willing to give up so i can rma my board?
Maybe try increasing this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Futastic
btw, that's a very nice quad o'c on a X38. Which batch Q9550 are you using? :)
The batch I am using is L818B110. BTW this is C1 stepping not E0. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by MacClipper
Cool...the FSB Termination voltage worked. It's at 1.34 in the bios but real voltage is at 1.25. CPU voltage in the bios is 1.33125, real is 1.320. Priming now @ 4004 MHz :D
Eh...system freezes after 15 mins of prime. Should I bump my FSB Termination Voltage up more?
What temps are you getting? A slight bump in Vnb may solve it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Futastic
NB voltage?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
My NB temp is at 56C
Idle
33C for the CPU
Core 1-44,Core 2-43,Core 3-43, Core 4-42
Load
62C for the CPU
Core 1-71,Core 2-70,Core 3-72, Core 4-72
Whats the best BIOS now a days? MF or RF...
Shawn - RF
-
To update my situation once more. Following settings do not work. I get stuck at Det DRAM but I'm pretty sure it's not the DRAM since it runs around 1000MHz quite fine.
6*450 (just to test the FSB first, before upping the multi)
333 Strap
PCIE 110
Mem 901 5-5-5-15 (rest auto)
DRAM static read: disabled
AI clock: auto
Transboosta: auto
CPU volt 1.4
CPU PPL auto
NB 1.59
DRAM 2.3 (spec is 2.4, maximus adds another 0.1v)
FSBT 1.4
SB auto
Loadline Cal - Disabled
GTL Ref - 0.63x
NB Ref - 0.67x
SB 1.5 - 1.5
Spread spectra - Disabled
-
I'm seriously clueless what I can possibly do to make that FSB go any higher.
Temps on 3.6GHz (400*9)are 30 idle, 48 load so a lower clock shouldn't generate more heat (6x 450-500 for example).
It's the FSB that locks above 440 somehow.
Specs again:
ASUS Maximus Formula Special Edition (1407)
Intel E8400 C0
4x1GB OCZ FlexXLC PC2-6400 CL3 (runs stable around 1000MHz CL5)
Cheers and thanks in advance,
DET DRAM is an incorrect PL setting adjusting the value to a higher number will correct the hang and allow you to bootQuote:
Originally Posted by Allubz
High FSB and lock ups usally mean vNB are to low try increasing NB
Thanks for your quick reply.
What's the "PL" number? Do you mean CPU PPL?
I'll play around a bit more.
I was also really looking for a versionQuote:
Originally Posted by Allubz
ok having issue with this! says on page 1 that this is for P5e as well yeah. so here my frob everytime i follow instruction the the letter....... it comes up saying could not open rom file while in bootup dos? tried different rom files, reset all my overclocks back to defult but nothing? some help would be awsome. cheers guys
PL is Performance Level, which if set to low might give DET RAM.Quote:
Originally Posted by Allubz
ignore my last post figured it out now!!! forgot to add space at the end lmao!!! cheers for that he's to hopefully overclocking my e8200 further than 3.8!!!
Another basic reason you can get "DET RAM" error is because the set value for your memory voltage is set too low.
Case in point my memory modules have a EPP for 1200mhz@2.2volts + timings, however if I try to run all for sticks at the lowest JEDEC value of 800mhz@1.8 it wont boot with all for sticks installed, it will boot with tow DIMs installed but at that voltage but not all four.
would I be able to flash my rampage board to a maximus? i bought it as a rampage.
Yes you could, you may lose some functionality though; dual phase ram power? eg.Quote:
Originally Posted by slugzkea
why would you want to do that??Quote:
Originally Posted by slugzkea
hi guys, i'm new here :D
sorry for that post but i have not found smth really useful for my case(just that flashing p5e3 dlx to premium wifi doesent work)
any feedback about upgrading p5e3 premium wifi ap @n to a rampage or rampage extreme?
thanks :)
that's okay,Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
So it's totally safe to just use the bios EZ flash utility and flash to a maximus?
and if i dont like i can flash back to a rampage?
I don't need to HP utility or anything like that, since rampage and maximus bios's are the same size?
No, you can't use easy flash. You'll need a bootable floppy or other removable drive with afudos 236u (preferably) and the bios you want to flash toQuote:
Originally Posted by slugzkea
Syntax:
afu236u /i1201.rom /n /pbnc
1201 is an example of the bios version you want to flash.I'm interested in knowing your results. Of course, you are responsible for your own endeavors.
Curious, what's wrong with EZ flash?
I know we''ve seen these all before but I finally ripped my mobo apart after having problems.....
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/b...oStripping.jpg
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/b...kOfContact.jpg
I didn't even use the hairdryer... The stock cooler quite litureally fell off when I took the pins and screws out... And only 1 mosfet cooler was making contact :shakes:
~Bex
I guess the board wanted none of that ginormous dryer :eek: Anyway, its good you caught that lack of contact on the mosfets, those are some pretty iffy things when it comes to stability. I'm a little concerned seeing the stock cooler all over your cpu socket tho.Quote:
Originally Posted by RCG_Bex
EZ Flash doesn't support cross-flash.Quote:
Originally Posted by slugzkea
Lol well as a woman with long hair I can't live without a good hairdryer!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
Oh and the heatsink wasn't actually resting ont he socket, funny angle tbh, not the 1st person to say that. It was still lifted up on the mosfet cooler at that point....
~Bex
Yeah from that angle it looked like the cooler was having a short-fest on your board :D It'll be a bummer to finally assemble all your stuff and get the dreaded "cpu init." Oh, this is a nice project: The Real Elemental Dragon :up: You do a nice job. Asus does manage to screw you when you least expect it. Gosh, wish I had 2x 4870 x2s.Quote:
Originally Posted by RCG_Bex
Wouldn't surprise me tbh - Asus screwed me over so many times already and that board I suspect is dying..... This is my las resort and so peeved at Asus I don't ever want to try RMA'ing ever again....
~Bex
@Allubz:
Your settings:
6*475
RAM @ 950 5-5-5-15
PCI Freq: 110
CPU Volt: 1.45
PPL: 1.6
NB: 1.65
DRAM: 2.3
FSBT/VTT: 1.4
SB: Auto
Loadline: Auto
CPU GTL: 0.63x
NB GTL: 0.67x
DDR Ref voltages: Auto
SB 1.5 Volt: 1.5
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My 5 cents on those:
First flash it to Rampage! Your wasting your time, Maximus bios: my maximum POST was +- 500FSB. Rampage Bios lets me boot windows @ 570FSB!.
533FSB rock stable on 1.36 voltage for cpu.
-set DDR voltage manually to your Rams spec.
-PCI Freq: 100, wont be your problem.(yet)
-CPU gtl 0.62
-Loadline = disabled (enabled/auto never worked for me)
-NB=1.49-1.57 should be plenty (will result in 1.56- 1.6*)
-pll = 1.5
-cpu voltage= try 1.4 first and up that this its stable.
-try ai booster on auto.
Why dont you try my posted settings? (read last couple of pages)
Good luck!
I flashed it successfully to a maximus. fiddling with settings now, trying to ge get a stable 4ghz clock with 1200mhz ram using 400 fsb strap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
so far windows keeps freezing.