Wich bios are working best and wich do you think I need for my setup ?
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Wich bios are working best and wich do you think I need for my setup ?
1.8mod rev.3 I would think,
i used 1.8 rev.2.. which only pin-fixed the trc and trcf...
someone enlighten me... what actually does it mean by 200 3.9us ? or 200 7.8 ?
im using 3.9us for any divider i choose.... but wat r the technical explaination for those values ???
NFM.. write a tutorial would ya ? for the modding of ram timing... everyone will pray down to u........
I think of Tref values as being refresh rates for the RAM. So the lower the number, (eg. 3.9us lower than 7.8us) the faster the capacitors get re-charged. If they are re-charged too quickly, or too slowly, performance and stability will be affected.
Most 512Mb sticks have a default refresh rate of 7.8us, and so when using a 1:1 ratio, using the default refresh rate of 200 7.8us, (shows as 200 3.9us in A64 Tweaker) should lead to greatest stability at higher clocks. If using a divider though, other rates can be used. 133 7.8us (again, 133 3.9us in A64 Tweaker) seems to be good on the Neo2 for a lot of people when using a divider. :)
Guide to tweaking bios:
http://overclockers.com/tips905/
Tictac's Mem Timings source code:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=384
Plus, here is an attachment of the code used by digitalfrost (hope thats ok with him to post it!) to tweak the bios...so you can get a feel for it, and you can use Tictac's source code to add in what you want. :)
although i havent tried NFM 1.96 beta bios i did try murdocks(and yes i got the 7v on the -12v line also) and have higher 3.3v rails causes the system to refuse to boot to anything.
it will post fine and go into the bios fine but when its tiime to boot to something, nothing happens.
knocking the 3.3v rail back down to 3.3v allowed the bios to boot to media properly.
sounds like some sort of overvolting protectiong that needs to be removed.
i raised my 3.3 rail to 3.55v to test how it helped my ram voltages past 2.85v with the 1.96 bios i cant.
im sticking with 180r3 until a better one is released with more options and allows us to raise the vdimm past 2.85.(i believe although cant confirm the hardware lock is 3.0v just like the ASUS 754 boards did, they lock the vdimm at like 2.9v i believe and unless you hardware mod it whatever you put into the bios dont matter. at least past 2.9v i mean.
http://www.msi-forum.de/thread.php?t...tuser=0&page=1Quote:
Originally Posted by CD 1986
ive posted in that forum to him reporting issues before but no one responded to me and frnakly the crap mod's he is putting out now i could care less.
TicTac and NFM are doing a better job.
Murdock's last bios have some horrible issues with USB i lost nearly all my USB devices using his last 1.8mod but going back to NFM's or the murdock biuos prior was ok,,,
avoid the 195 and 196 bios's unless you have a sandiego or venice... and even then ... you need a new board if your running a X2 anywyas this NEO2 isnt gunna cut it, and if you think it will your lost.
same with the venice frankly this board has had its time in the spotlight
I never modded any new v1.9x beta bioses.
@Lestat, sorry to hear problems with 3.3v rail :( btw what's your cpu, you probably can't clock more than 255 HTT because on-die mem controller craps out. It happens when you try to pass certaib HTT speed, you bump volts, go crazy loosening timings, 2T etc. and nothin, that's problem with mem controller. I'm just begginner in bios mooding so I hope i will get a hell lot better in modding bioses :up: and about the tref: 200MHz@15.6us is good, default 200Mhz@7.8us is good also, 166Mhz@7.8us (166Mhz@1.95*us in A64 Tweaker) seems best at least to me.
somethin for desert :p: http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=24353 orginal http://forum.msi.com.tw/index.php?topic=82787.0 time to get hands on msi :hrhr: , show some support to our brothers
EDIT: I got my hands on MSI, already send buch of emails about Neo2 :clap:
Just thought id say about the modified bios files im hosting.
need.for.mhz, CD1986 or the website owner take no responsiblity for any damage that the modified bios files may cause to your system. The bios files have been tested and showed to be working fine but we cannot guarantee your success.
Flashing a bios is risky and can cause errors and if your not able to except the consequences dont mess with your pc.
:rolleyes:
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I've been reading this column for awhile. I have a 3000 1.8 and have been playing with the settings in Core Center. I can't figure out how to increase the multiplier past nine, I see several people running higher. Can someone tell me or point me in the right direction to achieve this? I have the latest bios from MSI, but, I'm missing something and am asking for your expertise.
Jeandobre
Noob Boob
AMD 3000 939
MSI Plat running at 232 x 9 (runs around 2087)
1 GB Corsair Value Mem (2x512)
2 IDE hard drives
The cpus are locked for higher than default multipliers. Its worked out by 200 x the number to make the cpu speed so 200 x 9 = 1800mhz which is the clock of the 3000+.
So with a 3000+ you can use any of the lower multipliers but none higher than 9. The people that use higher multipliers have higher rated cpus like a 3200 has 10x 3500 11 and 3800 has 12 x 200 to make their operating frequencies.
San diegos use different performance ratings than venice so a 3700 like mine has a 11 times multi same as the 3500 venice.
@sideeffect
Tmod is on our ftp, grab it :) and then you can remove from there if you want
I remeber reading some where that you can get a 10 multi on a +3000 buy using 9.5 multi, it was some kind of bug or something, Anyone read something like this befor?
Thanks nfm, cd1986 remembered he did send u that after all :) we were thinking there was a version u could use actually in windows xp and not dos. But ill plug the floppy in and use dos.Quote:
Originally Posted by need.for.mhz
But 1 stick of my ballistix has failed. Think it has been flakey for sometime now so im sending that back and getting some gskill instead. Sick of messing with average ram.
Give it a try jeandobre and report back. Wonder if it will work or not i have doupts :p if it does work maybe it would work with all athlon 64s.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4rory
i've tried it didnt work with my 3200 but i read someone say "theres no point in getting a 3200 if your just getting it for the multi, just get a 3000 and use 9.5 multi it will up it to 10" ... thats all i remeber. dont remeber what the tread was about.
What a dummy eh! ;) All sideeffect's fault really! lol :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by sideeffect
thanks for the info. It's the chip, not the board.
the multiplier goes up to nine only, I have read that if you put the multiplier up to .5 that it will default itself up, however, that's not an option I have.
I was hoping to bump my speed up, it seems I'm pretty much maxed out around the 230's. I guess I shouldn't complain, though, at least everything runs.
Thanks for your help.
Jeandobre
Noob Boob
try higher then 230 try to skips a few sometimes it gets hung up on a few bad mhz. Worth a shot.
Hi guys,
I took a new CPU a few days ago, 3200+ Venice 0519, it got rock solid till 2.7 GHz and 1.575v.
2.750 I tested with 1.6v but was kind of unstable.
So I wonder: there's anything I can try to get it like 2.8 GHz?? Is it safe to run it on 1.65v daily? Worth trying it? How far Venice vcore can go safe?
Thanks a lot any answer,
AleX
im running my at 1.6-1.62V at 2.75Ghz now.. 24/7 machine. but im on WC. temp is about 33C idle and 44C load...Quote:
Originally Posted by alexgontijo
i say 1.7V for temporary benchmark... not for daily use... tat's ofcoz if u can get more juice out of 1.7V..... anything more will be dangerous even tho it isn't heated up
NFM -
by YOUR 196 bios i simply meant the one thats on the website hosting your other bios's
im trying to make a deal on a venice as we speak but with newegg showing $190 for a retail Venice 3200+ im about ready to break out the credit card lol.
Thats not NFM's bios its cd1986's bios. Its not in nfm's section its in cd1986's section and the readme says its made by cd1986 and not nfm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
Thanks Harpy,Quote:
Originally Posted by harpyboy
I got it stable at 2.750 (275x10) exactly as yours, with 1.62v. But as it got hotter, I don't think the only 50 MHz worth the 0.5v raise. I'll use it in 2.7 GHz! My iddle is at 40C and full load at 55C.
I'm taking an OCZ 3200 Platinum Rev2 to run it on 1:1, 270x10, I think it will get even better. My Corsair 3200XL is running at 166 divisor, in 225 MHz 2-3-3-6, and doing 6650 in the SANDRA. My SuperPI is at 32 seconds. How can I see the following digits on it? (Like 32.150s..)
I'll post results latter with the OCZ.
AleX