AMD Cayman info (or rumor)

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12-02-2010, 10:21 AM
Vipeax

http://www.unika.com.cn/images/stori...r5hjbu1big.jpg
Their 6870 btw.

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Originally Posted by Manicdan

zooming in on this image i see the second as a 9

http://img1.cache.netease.com/catchp...38C14F426F.jpg

That actually confuses me. In that picture the sticker with all the lines is missing (like the 6870 one).
12-02-2010, 10:32 AM
Manicdan

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Originally Posted by Vipeax

That actually confuses me. In that picture the sticker with all the lines is missing (like the 6870 one).

good point, it took me a second to figure out what you mean by lines
but basically the decal on the front is different.

so we have like 3 different cards in 3 different photos

and now the site is gone....
12-02-2010, 11:07 AM
Monstru

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Originally Posted by Manicdan

is the "instant orgasm" test also under NDA or can you tell us if that spec was true as well?

Maaan, I'm not that easy :D
12-02-2010, 11:35 AM
E30M3

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Originally Posted by zalbard

If the performance is close and the price is much nicer then it will be a big win for AMD, again.
They just need to keep following this strategy imo. :yepp:

when did amd produce a single GPU card which was the fastest on the market??

not since Nvidia failed with the FX5800
otherwise nVidia always been ahead of AMD

and will probably win this round too
it is certainly what history tells us.
12-02-2010, 11:41 AM
Ourasi

Bad memory? HD5870 was numero uno single GPU for an eternety, wake up..
12-02-2010, 11:41 AM
Oztopher

He didn't say they produced the best single card, he said if performance is close (like it always is), and if the price is nice (i.e. undercut) then AMD win again.

We'll see who wins this round...
12-02-2010, 11:43 AM
-=DVS=-

As a smart nvidiot i personally hope 6970 is a much faster single gpu card then GTX 580 , that might result in Jen-Hsun Huang hurt ego and he would rush the release of Keplar :D
12-02-2010, 11:45 AM
Solus Corvus

Quote:

Originally Posted by E30M3

when did amd produce a single GPU card which was the fastest on the market??

not since Nvidia failed with the FX5800
otherwise nVidia always been ahead of AMD

and will probably win this round too
it is certainly what history tells us.

I think you may have stumbled upon a new law of reality. In essence:

"Nvidia has always had a faster single GPU, except for when they didn't. Therefore Nvidia will always have a faster single GPU, except for when they won't."

I dare doubters to try and assail this logic. :fact:
12-02-2010, 11:55 AM
zalbard

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oztopher

He didn't say they produced the best single card, he said if performance is close (like it always is), and if the price is nice (i.e. undercut) then AMD win again.

We'll see who wins this round...

Yep! :up:
Great price / perf is what I love AMD for.
12-02-2010, 11:59 AM
E30M3

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ourasi

Bad memory? HD5870 was numero uno single GPU for an eternety, wake up..

5870 was meant two compete with GTX480 in this round and 480 was clearly faster ...40nm vs 40nm

I'm just saying nVidia always has the fastest GPU
do you want something cheaper and slower it is maybe AMD
12-02-2010, 12:00 PM
tbone8ty

So I'm guessing the 6970 will have 6870 crossfireX performance
so there is no need for dual crossfireX ports. LOL jkjk

Plus Amd wants to save the planet by going green
12-02-2010, 12:02 PM
zalbard

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Originally Posted by tbone8ty

So I'm guessing the 6970 will have 6870 crossfireX performance
so there is no need for dual crossfireX ports. LOL jkjk

Plus Amd wants to save the planet by going green

Pretty sure there will be two of them.
12-02-2010, 12:03 PM
zerazax

Quote:

Originally Posted by E30M3

when did amd produce a single GPU card which was the fastest on the market??

not since Nvidia failed with the FX5800
otherwise nVidia always been ahead of AMD

and will probably win this round too
it is certainly what history tells us.

X1950XTX anyone?

alternate reality indeed
12-02-2010, 12:04 PM
Manicdan

Quote:

Originally Posted by E30M3

5870 was meant two compete with Gtx480 in this round and 480 was clearly faster 40nm vs 40nm

competition is much more than just who has the biggest card, thats why we have prices.

in performance per dollar who wins
in performance per watt who wins
in performance per mm2 who wins
in performance for a single PCie slot who wins
in performance for maximum gpus in a single computer who wins
????

just cause a 580 is faster than a 5870 does not mean i wouldnt buy a 6850.

so i think what your trying to say is who built the biggest hottest and most expensive card this round. which does not mean they "won" at 40nm, cause im pretty sure with fermi being 6 months late, no real mid range competition for almost a year, and we just now get the full real deal, i think nvidia more than failed 40nm which cause the rest of the 40nm owners to have overpriced AMD cards for the first half of 2010
12-02-2010, 12:09 PM
E30M3

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Originally Posted by FischOderAal

E30M3, why are you always misreading posts on purpose just to force a thread into AMD vs NVIDIA again? Really, you're just annoying and you are the very first user I put on my ignore list. I've been active in forums for about 8 or 9 years now but I've never met someone as annoying as you.

Thanks :rofl:

One can not say who wins a round
it is the one who is fastest?
it is he who consumes the least power?
it is the one that is cheapest?

I just know that speed requires power and costs money
a 6850 is cheaper and uses less power than a 6870, so is the 6850 the best card?
12-02-2010, 12:10 PM
FischOderAal

Why don't you just put E30M3 on your ignore list and everyone will live happily ever after?
12-02-2010, 12:33 PM
hurrdurr

^ I agree
12-02-2010, 12:35 PM
Ourasi

Quote:

Originally Posted by E30M3

5870 was meant two compete with GTX480 in this round and 480 was clearly faster ...40nm vs 40nm

I'm just saying nVidia always has the fastest GPU
do you want something cheaper and slower it is maybe AMD

And you are shooting blanks, HD5870 was nr. 1 for what, 8 months, and suddenly it's not the fastest GPU for these 8 months because GTX480 was intended to compete with it, gezuz, great logic...

ATI/AMD had the crown for so long that they fell asleep, HD6970/6950 should have been released weeks ago, and be faster by a substancial margin compared to the 580, seems everyone in this position always make this mistake..

I for one will wait untill 6970/50 shows up before I decide what my next GPU will be...
12-02-2010, 12:41 PM
hurrdurr

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Originally Posted by E30M3

Thanks :rofl:

One can not say who wins a round
it is the one who is fastest?
it is he who consumes the least power?
it is the one that is cheapest?

I just know that speed requires power and costs money
a 6850 is cheaper and uses less power than a 6870, so is the 6850 the best card?

What say you about 5970? It is the fastest card, and it has been the fastest card for a full year, after it was released Nvidia brought the 400s and then the 500s but still the top-of-the-line 500 isn't as fast as AMD's 1 year old card.

I mean, if it's about performance AND price AND power, AMD has been annihilating Nvidia for quite some time. But even if it's just performance, AMD's been on top for quite a while again. So what is your criteria, exactly?
12-02-2010, 12:55 PM
Vipeax

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Originally Posted by E30M3

5870 was meant two compete with GTX480 in this round and 480 was clearly faster ...40nm vs 40nm

It never was meant to compete with the GTX480. Don't come up with some random fud to make your arguments. Guess you never even read articles like http://www.anandtech.com/show/2937/4.

I can also tell you from an ex friend who was a very reliable source (who sadly passed away AKA CJ) that the 5970 was made purely to defeat a fully working GTX480 (which actually came out as a GTX580, because Fermi failed and guess what: even with the performance increase over just a full 512 sharders, it still lost that game which made the 5970 a 100% success for AMD) and that their next generation would be taking care of taking the crown with a single GPU. Sadly 32nm got cancelled, so they would now try that on 40nm with a bigger die-size instead of beating it with a cheap card (again!). If you think that AMD's plans were to compete with a 512 shader GTX480 with the 5870.... :rofl:
12-02-2010, 03:07 PM
Oztopher

Looks like someone might've got a slap on the hand for showing a certain something of a certain card :rofl: *cough* Monstru *cough*

(he blacked out one of the cards in the pic)
12-02-2010, 03:15 PM
zerazax

Well... we know cards are out there at least!
12-02-2010, 03:30 PM
bill_d

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Originally Posted by zerazax

Well... we know cards are out there at least!

true and maybe they will be out the 7th

i don't think they would give them 12 days to do the reviews
12-02-2010, 03:36 PM
Monstru

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oztopher

Looks like someone might've got a slap on the hand for showing a certain something of a certain card :rofl: *cough* Monstru *cough*

(he blacked out one of the cards in the pic)

One must be polite :)
12-02-2010, 03:40 PM
kuroikenshi

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Originally Posted by Monstru

One must be polite :)

I suppose one must be very happy of how a certain something producingcertain benches of something else as well,

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