Bigtoe's first look at eXpert from DFI

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11-17-2005, 01:21 AM
alpha0ne

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Originally Posted by dinos22

you got proof or you're talking :banana::banana::banana::banana:

Yep, bananas IMHO :rolleyes:
11-17-2005, 05:52 AM
Ket

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinos22

you got proof or you're talking :banana::banana::banana::banana:

dont be anal. i can hardly back up what i read as its just words from other people, take it how you will.
11-17-2005, 06:07 AM
Jaco

Ket,
did you read the sticky from Tony vcore and vdimm with amd64
11-17-2005, 06:28 AM
ozzimark

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Originally Posted by Ket

dont be anal. i can hardly back up what i read as its just words from other people, take it how you will.

i think he wants to know where you saw other people having issues, aside from OPB, who had an unfortunate, but isolated, problem ;)
11-18-2005, 12:25 PM
Tony

New bios for you guys, I need hosts as i lost my FTP details so if you can download it and host it here for me.

Its on a free hosting site, sorry for the adds.

grab it here

based on 704-2 with similar tweaks to the older LP NF4 bios, but please remember this is for eXpert only.

Have fun and let me know what you think.
11-18-2005, 12:34 PM
jetjaguar

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony

New bios for you guys, I need hosts as i lost my FTP details so if you can download it and host it here for me.

Its on a free hosting site, sorry for the adds.

grab it here

based on 704-2 with similar tweaks to the older LP NF4 bios, but please remember this is for eXpert only.

Have fun and let me know what you think.

tony thanks for the bios .. is it a modded 11-11 bios ?
also the tweaks u made are more geared towards bh5 / utt ?
11-18-2005, 12:43 PM
Tony

Quote:

Originally Posted by jetjaguar

tony thanks for the bios .. is it a modded 11-11 bios ?

Im not sure what the 11/11 was based off apart from it was a -1. I asked Oskar for a build off my 706 which you all know as 704-2, this is what i just posted here.

I have the 11/11, had it on the 11th ;) and i just got this yesterday. this build has FX60 code integrated also where the 11/11 does not.
11-18-2005, 12:56 PM
HKPolice

I'm surprised no one has complained about "it requires more voltage than the older boards to run stable". Wouldn't this reduce overclock due to heat issues?? How much extra voltage is required? Most importantly, WHY does it require more voltage?
11-18-2005, 01:12 PM
AlterBridge86

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Originally Posted by HKPolice

I'm surprised no one has complained about "it requires more voltage than the older boards to run stable". Wouldn't this reduce overclock due to heat issues?? How much extra voltage is required? Most importantly, WHY does it require more voltage?

Well - it requires more voltage yes, but surprisingly people are reporting much lower and/or equal temps to their old NF4 boards. We believe this is because of massive overvolting on the part of the old NF4's, so from what i've seen it isn't really that much of a problem after all.
11-18-2005, 01:16 PM
Tony

Quote:

Originally Posted by HKPolice

I'm surprised no one has complained about "it requires more voltage than the older boards to run stable". Wouldn't this reduce overclock due to heat issues?? How much extra voltage is required? Most importantly, WHY does it require more voltage?

I don't need more voltage...if anything i use less to get the same clocks.

What you needing more voltage on, the cpu or ram?
11-18-2005, 01:18 PM
jetjaguar

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony

I don't need more voltage...if anything i use less to get the same clocks.

What you needing more voltage on, the cpu or ram?

cpu

also tony did u tweak this bios for a specific type or ram ??
also can u flash thei bios thru windows .. i did that on my other board ..
just wondering ?

thanks
11-18-2005, 04:21 PM
Tony

Eva 2000 kindly gave me some hosting so i can link you guys to a nice fast host.

grab the file here
11-18-2005, 04:37 PM
Ugly n Grey

If you need a mirror Tony, shoot me a PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ket

dont be anal. i can hardly back up what i read as its just words from other people, take it how you will.

If you can't quote from experience, your words don't mean squat. Buy the rig and share your experiences but please don't shower us in "net lore".
11-18-2005, 06:59 PM
jetjaguar

tony what ram is this tweaked for ? bh-5 ? utt ? prolly not crucial ballistix right lol :(

the bios tweak u did
11-18-2005, 07:26 PM
xgman

I loaded the 2BT bios up, but strange thing about the "CPU Startup Value" any voltage other than startup on my X2 won't post. You can change the other cpu voltages and percentage increases fine and they stick, but not Startup value for some odd reason. Otherwise, so far so good.
11-18-2005, 07:31 PM
jetjaguar

how are the default settings in the ram config .. did he set a drive str and data drv str or left it on auto ?
11-18-2005, 09:41 PM
dinos22

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Originally Posted by xgman

I loaded the 2BT bios up, but strange thing about the "CPU Startup Value" any voltage other than startup on my X2 won't post. You can change the other cpu voltages and percentage increases fine and they stick, but not Startup value for some odd reason. Otherwise, so far so good.

how did you flash to this bios.....the linked file only has the actual bios file

also dfi doesn't seem to have any bioses listed on their site....how would you go back to old bios if need be
11-18-2005, 09:51 PM
Diverge

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinos22

how did you flash to this bios.....the linked file only has the actual bios file

also dfi doesn't seem to have any bioses listed on their site....how would you go back to old bios if need be

download one of dfi's normal nf4 bios, the .exe one that creates the floppy. edit the autoexec.bat file to match the name of tony's bios.. this way you got all the switches they like to use, ect. remove the bin from the floppy, toss tony's on there. before you flash it, use the award utility to dump your original bios to your harddrive.

i didn't try the new bios yet, but this is what i would do.
11-18-2005, 09:58 PM
nop

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Originally Posted by dinos22

how did you flash to this bios.....the linked file only has the actual bios file

also dfi doesn't seem to have any bioses listed on their site....how would you go back to old bios if need be

I just used awdflash like DFI Ultra. Flashed from DOS with
awdflash biosnamehere.bin /py /sn /cp /cd /cc /ld /r /f

it'll restart your com. automatically after the flash finish but it's not back up previous bios. Think there'll have some command that would back up the bios. Sorry for can't remember that one.

Tony's bios seems fine to me. At least it let me use divider on my opty165 which i'm priming@2882Mhz now.
11-18-2005, 10:04 PM
jetjaguar

any problem flashing this from windows ?? i dont have a floppy no more lol
11-18-2005, 10:14 PM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by nop

I just used awdflash like DFI Ultra. Flashed from DOS with
awdflash biosnamehere.bin /py /sn /cp /cd /cc /ld /r /f

it'll restart your com. automatically after the flash finish but it's not back up previous bios. Think there'll have some command that would back up the bios. Sorry for can't remember that one.

Tony's bios seems fine to me. At least it let me use divider on my opty165 which i'm priming@2882Mhz now.

i've got a problem with my setup and was thinking of flashing to this bios but i need to backup the existing one

is that 165 same as mine........ 0536MPMW or 0534SPMW.....ihs on or off
11-18-2005, 10:31 PM
nop

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinos22

i've got a problem with my setup and was thinking of flashing to this bios but i need to backup the existing one

is that 165 same as mine........ 0536MPMW or 0534SPMW.....ihs on or off

Sorry for late reply. I just cancelled my prime to run DOS and check it for you. Think that you've to add sy to the command flash since it said : sy = Backup Original BIOS To Disk File

My opty 165 is CCBWE 0534SPMW and....ihs off :D

Hope your com. problem could be solved soon. :)
11-19-2005, 12:00 AM
trza2k

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Originally Posted by jetjaguar

any problem flashing this from windows ?? i dont have a floppy no more lol

Just boot dos from a cd then.
11-19-2005, 12:48 AM
alpha0ne

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Originally Posted by trza2k

Just boot dos from a cd then.

how would he then save the original bios unless he can switch it to HDD :)
11-19-2005, 05:36 AM
ixtapalapaquetl

Although I would recommend the above suggestion of modifying the .bat file from an existing nF4 BIOS, it will work using WinFlash v176. You can also backup the existing BIOS very easily using WinFlash.

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