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=>metro.cl, hutch (and everybody :) ): use this version: MemSet33
Soliciting feed back from others...
Abit IP35-E/E4300 CPU combo. 1st pair of Kingston DDR2 800 (chips on both sides, 1GB x 2 with SPD 5-5-5-18/1.8V) is set at 5-4-4-9-2T in BIOS. Memory clock speed is 480MHz (overclocked CPU with 1:1.25 memory divider). Memtest 86+ V1.70 shows bandwidth of 5628MB/s.
MBENCH:
-INT read 6896, write 3534
-MMX read 7534, write 3531
-SSE read 7865, write 6938
Swapped these RAMs with 2nd pair of Kingston DDR2 800 (chips on one side, 512MB x 2 with SPD 5-5-5-18/1.8V). Same memory settings as the previous pair. Memtest 86+ V1.70 shows bandwidth of 5197MB/s.
MBENCH:
-INT read 6891, write 3077
-MMX read 7484, write 3051
-SSE read 7769, write 6939
Not sure why the speed of the 2nd pair (512 x 2) is lower than the first pair (1GB x 2) when all other parameters in BIOS are the same. Both pair are stable up to a minimum of 576MHz.
Memtest reports a bandwidth of 4358MB/s when all four sticks are added to the MB (dual channel...1+3, 2+4).
Went back to BIOS and manually set the RAM settings to 5-4-4-9-30-3-4-3-4 to remove any AUTO RAM dectection mode. Re-tested both pairs. Still no change with the bandwidth numbers. BTW, all sticks passed Memtest86+.
Booted to Windows to check the performance of the RAMs using Super Pi. The 1st pair (higher bandwidth per Memtest) yields marginally faster time (within 1 to 2%).
Can a single-sided RAM module be slower than a dual-sided stick by that large of a margin? Is the BIOS having issue with proper detection of the single-sided modules? Has anyone seen a similar drop in memory bandwidth with 4 sticks vs 2 sticks? I'm aware that adding more RAMs will place a higher load on the memory controller. That's why most rigs will drop from 1T to 2T with four modules in place.
TIA,
F
Thanks Felix will test it now :)Quote:
Originally Posted by FELIX
Bad news felix doesnt work properly
Been playing with 33beta on P5K3 Deluxe and Kingston PC11000 DDR3.
I find it reports incorrect memory speed (not 0, but some other value).
Also, when i set my tRP to 9 in BIOS it causes memset not to be able to function (some values not editable, and Apply / Save button are greyed out completely).
LockMCH had no effect.
T_M: try this version
Quote:
Originally Posted by FELIX
Should we use this version for all boards now?
Yes, it's the final version; Tell me if you find bug or problem...
PL is working on my P965-DS3/S3 as far as I can tell. Will run some benches in a little.
@FELIX:
1st of all, thank you for this great program :). I am AM2 user ATM. Could you add more advanced timings/settings for AM2 DDR2 controller, please? My wishlist:
- tRFC0-3 for DIMM1-4 (separate for each slot - preferably in ns as in BIOSes or converted to number of cycles)
- Read Preamble (is Read Delay different thing?) (in ns)
- non-SPD timings like: TrwtTO, Twrrd, Trdrd, Twrwr, tFAW
- Twcl (Write CAS Latency)
- Dynamic Idle Cycle Counter - Enable/Disable
- DRAM Drive Strength and various other drive strengths
ps why do you call "RAS# to CAS# Delay" - tRTC and not tRCD? Is it intentional?
ok settings I was waiting for with this program has been shown to me via the bios on the gigabyte board.
Main bios screen hit ctrl-f1 and then head into the M.I.T screen and you have the options to adjust the memory settings.
Felix, I have been using this tool for a while on my laptop (since it has NO options in BIOS). Version 3.2 seemed to work fine, however, sometimes it would reset my alpha timings to SPD on bootup. Version 3.3 has seemed to fix this problem, however, it now reports my memory speed wrong.
BTW, I am using an nForce 430 chipset with a Turion 64 X2 :p:
awesome....thanks for the 3.3 update.
can someone please upload 3.3 beta 2 for me please.....
http://rv.page.cegetel.net.perso.ceg...mSet33beta.exe
not working......:(
nm i have it now...thank you coolice :toast:
just a reminder to everyone...
the final version is available at the authors site here:
http://rv.page.cegetel.net.perso.cegetel.net/
-thanks
here you go:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dynasty
http://www.overclocking-jp.eu/public/Tweakers/
Hey Felix I noticed on the latest 3.3 version that it doesnt show 1T or 2T in the list of timings. The beta 3.3 did but not the final version. Or is it possibly just my board the abit ip35 pro. I am running the latest bios with the option for different command rate. Thanks.
AFAIK, he removed it in the final version ( don't know why though )
It shows up and is working fine on 3.3 Final for me?! :confused:
2x1GB PC5300 5-5-5-12-16 2T
Turion 64 X2 (laptop) :ROTF:
Memset for AMD has a lot different timings to tweak than for Intel chipsets. Memset 3.3 Beta 2 has the 1T/2T for Intel but it's a read only option. Just like CAS it cannot be changed from windows I believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by CHaynes112
Changing Command Rate on P35 under windows have no effect on performance,
it's why I disable it on beta version and replace it by an other timing on final version.
Felix is there anyway you could put TRC as an option for P35? Performance impact on reducing TRC can be very big.
This version won't load on my laptop (Lenovo with 915GM), just showing up in Task Manager with 100% load. The beta2 works just great, got a nice increase in 3DMark2001 going from 4-3-3-9 to 4-3-2-4. Thanks for a great tool. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by FELIX
->Hutch: tRC is not present in P35 chipset.
->Kamerat: I send you an mp.
The TRC setting in my bios adjusts the performance level. That may be what you are seeing in yours.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hutch
...what is exactly your TRC (signification and values)Quote:
Originally Posted by Poki
Yeah I mainly just liked to have it there to show what command rate I was running. Thats about it since cpuz wont show it for my board.Quote:
Originally Posted by FELIX
I guess it doesnt matter that much really anyways, other then that the final version works great, thanks a bunch,
When i run this program , it told me that my chipset is not supported. my chipset is intel G965 and is it be supported by this program ?
Could you send a register dump (with cpu-z->last table->register.txt) at:
memset@hotmail.fr
A mail with the register dump data file has been sent to your mail box, please check it.Quote:
Originally Posted by FELIX
Hi FELIX
Any fix for custom set DPI size in Vista, please fix it.
Can be beta, I'm willing to test.
THANKS FELIX !! you da MAN !! fuggen great tool ! one of the few things ever to work on my rig.... damn the 945 chipset & the cv115-2pv pll !! hahhahahaahaa
FELIX seems memtest 3.3 final is messed up on Asus Blitz Extreme once i flashed to 0804 bios
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/Bli...me_151_all.png
Something I have noticed... after the computer resumes from Sleep, it will default back to the stock memory timings. You can verify this by pulling up MemSet, CPU-Z, etc. I was wondering if anyone else had seen this issue? I have tried 3.2, 3.3 Beta 1, 3.3 Beta 2, and 3.3 Final and they all do it?
Is this a known issue with MemSet?
-Thanks
Just want to say thanks bunch for your hard work and an excellent utility.
This app is suddenly HARD to get... any ideas what's up?
Would like to donate to you for all your hard work on this.
I know it has helped me Immensely.
So post or pm paypal info or somthing.
If your not acception donations ..a TY! Will have to do.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/godsa/Up.jpg
FELIX, I would like to ask about MCHbaredit. Seems like it checks the VendorID\DevID at startup. And it doesn't work on chipsets that are compatible with the supported one (i9XX) but it doesn't load - cause the VID\DevID doesn't match. Is there a key to bypass this check?
Would be very glad ;)
What is the VID/DevID on your system?
are these bugs?
i dont know if it's only on the bios settings
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/7681/buguv9.gif
Q6600
Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme
DFI Infinity 965S
Crucial Anniversary 2x1gb DDR2 667
Silverstone DA650
tnx
because your multiplier dropped lower than nominal. nothing to worry about.
FELIX VendorID of course 8086 - Intel. DevID I'll figure out. But it's from the i9xx family.
FELIX, The DeviceID is 2A00. ;)
It's Intel's 9xx family, but the program doesn't like its DevID. Would be glad to have this fixed :)
does it have any effect on the performance of the board?Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
we have same problem. i'm now using ABit IP35Pro.
already tried 3 different sets of ram but no luck :(
is there any fix for this issue? already tried different multi, even bios default
but still cant read the mems correctly :(
tnx
...you can't read memory timings or memory speed?
Hi guys, looks like a great program, I was wondering, now what do I do with it?
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/853/memsetlu8.th.png
anything on there I should change? thats how it was when I launched the program.
Thanks for any advice.
hey FELIX any chance of memset working with X38 chipset?
+1 for X38.... :D
...already do, coming soon.
Curious to see whats timings Intel will give in the Extreme Tuning Utility software... :)
If someone can send a register dump of X38 at memset@hotmail.fr, thank.
What do I need to do?
Low speed, high bandwidth.
Lol, at Fugger and his wimpy Yorkfield system....
:shocked:
Ply
CPUz -> About Tab -> Registers Dump ( txt ) ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by FUGGER
Nice rates :)Quote:
Originally Posted by FUGGER
dump sent
can't read memory speed correctly :(Quote:
Originally Posted by FELIX
tnx :)
Can you please send it to me too ? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by FUGGER
thanks !
tomorrow i get my asus p5e3 deluxe x38 board.
do you need more Register Dump?
...you can send.
Thanks guys. :)
dont get me wrong, but why the hell is this app in Intel section, named "for intel chipsets" when it support both Intel and AMD??
i was looking for this kind of app and overlooked it caused of the title...
should be in eXtreme bandwith or like that
Waiting for X38 version... Just installed Asus Maximus Formula.
Dump sent Franc.
There is some ID problem with that bios.
dump send :DQuote:
Originally Posted by FELIX
New version: memset34beta1.exe
-add support for Intel X38. (Same that P35 for timings, but perhaps some problem
with read DDR3 frequency, cause FSB and Dram strap was changed :confused: )
-Add support for AMD K10 DDR2.
-Replace Precharge to Precharge delay by Refresh period (tREF) timing in this version,(Same timing
we find in Everest) on 965 and P35 chipsets.Contrary to other timings, higher value is better for performance.
-Fix some bug with read memory frequency.
Let me know if you find bugs or other...
thanks a lot
Ill try it rightaway.
Thanks seems to detect DDR3 frequency fine for 5:6 and 5:8 dividers on P5K3 Deluxe with 0604 bios so far.. more tests to come :)Quote:
Originally Posted by FELIX
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5K...3m36s844ms.png
thx ;) ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by FELIX
>eva2000 could you please sent me a dump on that machine ?Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
especially the XMP part. Seems to need some fixing :shrug:
graet ,ill test on the gigabyte tommorrow .
I told it cause I didn't know that INTEL add FSB400 strap on this chipsets.Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
WebWilli sent me a dump with this strap and DDR3-800.
Now we have:
Code:BSEL2 BSEL1 BSEL0
0L 0L 0L => FSB-266.67 (1067)
0L 0L 1H => FSB-133.33 (533)
0L 1H 0L => FSB-200 (800)
0L 1H 1H => FSB-166.67 (667)
1H 0L 0L => FSB-333.33 (1333)
1H 1H 0L => FSB-400 (1600)
I need it for determine CPU/DDR ratio.
Added in memset.
Thanks. Now reporting proper memory frequency on my P5KD.:up:
But the tREF setting looks a bit strange !?
P5K3 DX only has FSB strap AUTO, 266, 333 in bios. Webwilli might have gave you X38 dump with 400FSB strap too ??Quote:
Originally Posted by FELIX
Here's the cpuz dump you can download here.Quote:
Originally Posted by cpuz
...Why?Quote:
Originally Posted by bl1zZ
...yes, here is a dump he send me with fsb strap on "auto" and DDR3 at 800:Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
Offset C00 in mchbar bit[2-0] reflect BSEL mode.Code:Chipset
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Northbridge Intel X38 rev. 01
Southbridge Intel 82801IR (ICH9R) rev. 02
Graphic Interface PCI-Express
PCI-E Link Width x16
PCI-E Max Link Width x16
Memory Type DDR3
Memory Size 2048 MBytes
Memory Frequency 800.0 MHz (1:2)
CAS# 8.0
RAS# to CAS# 7
RAS# Precharge 6
Cycle Time (tRAS) 20
Command Rate 2T
MCHBAR dump
-----------
Base address 0x0FED14000
Size 4096
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F
000 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
010 D0 20 0A 3D 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
BB0 1B 1E 21 24 27 2A 2D 30 33 36 39 3C 3F 3F 3F 3F
BC0 35 45 35 45 37 45 37 37 45 37 45 00 21 3F 00 00
BD0 21 1D 12 16 3F 3F 00 00 1B 37 1B 37 21 3F 21 3F
BE0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
BF0 94 52 07 00 FF FF 0E 83 0E 0E 0E 0E 0B 0B 0B 0B
C00 66 24 00 40 FF FF FF FF 80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C00->66->0.110.0.110
C10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 80 00 00
C20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
C30 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Also He told me that he have FSB 400 strap in bios.
tell me which dump you need and i try it ;)
thanks Felix !
Will try it on my X38T-DQ6
Hi, I currently use notebook with Intel 965PM chipset (Compal IFL90), but after installing MemSet it tells me "NOT FOR THIS CHIPSET".
And the install tells -INTEL 815 845 848 855 865 875 915 925 945 946 955 965 975 P35 & X38, desktop and laptop.
So I guess it should support then, anyone has any ideas?
Thanks!
...no, memset don't support 965 Mobile chipset for now.
memory configuration space is completely different than 965 desktop chipset.
Ok, looking forward for newer versions then ;)
@FELIX:
Q: why doesn't Memset show/allow to config tWR timing [Write Recovery Time] (at least on P35 chipset)?
I also see that tRC is missing @P35 but I guess it's normal on this chipset and not an omission (I had AM2 before and rRC was there in MemSet AFAIR). Is tWR same story on P35 chipset as tRC (but then, latest Everest DOES show tWR on P35, so...)?
please explain this tWR thing @P35...
ps any chance to add advanced AMD/AM2(+) timings I had asked about a few pages above, please?
ps2 also, latest Everest started to show a few more P35 MC timings not available in MemSet currently:
- DRAM Read ODT
- DRAM Write ODT
- MCH Read ODT
is it feasible to add them to MemSet, too (to be able to config them at view their current values at least)?
ps3 what about CR (Command Rate) on P35?
-For Write Recovery time, read post #583 in this thread.
-tRC is not present in Intel MCH registers.
-I add some timings for K8-DDR2 in 3.4beta.
-Changing Command Rate on P35 under windows have no effect on performance,
it's why I disable it on 3.3beta version and replace it by an other timing on final version.
FELIX
PLS list the command rate so we know what is being selected as some mobos don't list it and others may be buggy that's all
i also like to test mobos first with everything auto to see how they behave at different FSB ;) :)
There is mine with Asus Maximus Formula:
CPU-Z Dump
http://kotisivu.dnainternet.net/bull...etFSB_beta.png
You can use CPU-Z for that ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
There's a bug with some motherboards though :DQuote:
Originally Posted by The Stilt
@FELIX:
thanks for for the explanations.
1 more Q: P35 chipset and tRTP timing [Read To Precharge Delay] - latest Everest shows it as 5T (in my case) while MemSet 3.4b1 - as 3 (it's called Read to Precharge in MS). Why that difference? According to SPD tools it should be 3 as well for that freq (DDR2-800).
New beta version: memset34beta2
-Fix a bug with tREF on some P35/X38, when "0" value is show after apply.
Sorry for this inconvenience. :(
FELIXQuote:
Originally Posted by FELIX
Again want to thanks for your work and dedication, memset is a great program. Although I feel depressed when I think I have to change DPI settings and reboot each time when I want to use it. Would you fix that BUG and allow running it with various DPI scales ?
Thanks
FELIX
PLEASE add command rate in there again (testing different mobos that don't have the CMD rate selection means that we are in the dark what's selected as CPUz doesn't reliably show it still)
Command Rate is detected by a single bit in MCHBAR registers.
The value is either 0 or 1.
CPU-Z can read the command rate on any current Intel chipset.
the thing is stilt it wasn't reading properly on the Gigabyte P35T-DQ6
Too old version of CPU-Z, nothing else.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
Or maybe the bios is bugged.
But CPU-Z reads it correctly, period.
the P5K3-Dlx also switches back and forth from reading ir correctly and not reading it correctly FWIW. most of the time it is correct but every few reboots it goes back to 2T then after a reboot or two, CPU-Z starts picking it up as 1T again.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Stilt
CR (Read only) added in this version: memset34beta3.exe for chipsets 965/P35/X38.
Work on mine, but don't sure that it's work for all MB/chipsets.
does memset 3.4beta3 work on abit ip35pro official bios12,14 & beta16?Quote:
Originally Posted by FELIX
tnx in advance :)
...no, work only with bios #11.
mchbar is locked in write with others bios, and I can do nothing.
tnx for the quick response felix :)Quote:
Originally Posted by FELIX
hope they release a new bios that work with memset, memset are very useful for oc'ing and benching :)
tnx for your hard work :clap: :D
Did I miss it where is the P35/P38 Memset link?
...read post #692. :rolleyes:
Thank you.:DQuote:
Originally Posted by FELIX
Would it be possible for a Linux version of memset? Only thing I miss in Linux is this program and games. >.>
FELIX any chance for DPI bug fix ?Quote:
Originally Posted by FELIX