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Ok that makes more sense. So basically the higher the bars the more out of whack that color is. Looks like the BenQ FP241WZ that a lot of people are waiting for has an excessive blue overcast? Can't that be controlled? I read thats a bi-product of the "Z" feature and without it it's normal.
If this data is correct, it appears that Dell's tried and true 2407 is one of the most color-accurate panels on the market, surprising...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Soulburner
Which monitor? How is that done? :lsfight:
Check page 23 :cool:
I didn't use it for color though, that is set to 6500k. But it really helped in getting the lights and darks set up right.
err I have 50 posts per page so this is page 11 for me, link please?Quote:
Originally Posted by Soulburner
Didn't know that, here you go:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=551
I like to keep my forums snappy so I keep it at default, this is page 25 for me.
Anyone know of good software for monitor calibration? Non hardware versions. I understand there is also calibrating by eye but that doesn't help you with luminance or other settings like that.
I looked around and software was much more expensive than the $70 deal that shifty is talking about.
What were the names you found?
Shifty was talking about a software/hardware combination. The spyder2 (express or pro) come with an actual colorimeter that you place on the monitor to define the light in the room and such from your monitor.
My TN panel's viewing angle issues are starting to bother me now that the "wow" factor of done with. I am seriously considering going to a 20.1" S-IPS panel now...
edit: fixed typo
Yeah its the #1 thing that bugs me about mine, but you get what you pay for.
And we aren't talking viewing angles from the side, but straight on. The top part of the screen is darker than the bottom unless you tilt it. You will see the same thing on most laptops.
Yeah that is the nature of the beast with TN panels. Looking from above the screen is fine, its when you get to perpendicular and below that the contrast starts to go.
From ergonomic and healht point of view monitor should stand lower than your eyes.Quote:
Originally Posted by shifty803
Which LCD offer the most bang for the buck ?
I'm still looking for a 22" widescreen that supports black bars with 1:1 pixel dot pitch for non widescreen resolutions (like the 2405 supports 1600x1200 with black bars and is the same dot pitch as 1920x1200,
if anyone's 22" supports this, please post!!
(if your montor can do something like "something less than 1680 x 1050" with black bars, PLEASE POST!!)
I don't own one personally but IIRC the Sceptre x22wg supports 1:1 pixel mappingQuote:
Originally Posted by KoHaN69
at 1400x1050 w/ black bars?Quote:
Originally Posted by thinkingbear
4:3? ORLY? :eek:
How can I test it?
Go to display properties-> -> settings -> advanced-> adapter -> list all modesQuote:
Originally Posted by Soulburner
Most of what I know about this monitor comes from this thread over at [H]. Don't know about 1400x1050 specifically but a definite yes on 4:3 at various resolutions with black bars on the sides.Quote:
Originally Posted by KoHaN69
That just shows me the available resolutions.Quote:
Originally Posted by KoHaN69
I went into my drivers and changed it from "Fill" to use "Centered Timings" and tested 1024x768. The image was in the middle with all the area around it in black.
Is that what you wanted to know?
That sounds right! But - you couldnt choose or pick custom resoluition of 1400x1050?Quote:
Originally Posted by Soulburner
Again, I'm not an owner of that monitor, but the [H] thread says the pixel mapping settings are in the monitor OSD, not the drivers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Soulburner
In the OSD I can choose:Quote:
Originally Posted by thinkingbear
Aspect:
Native or Full
Nope. However if I set 1024x768 and have the image stretched (set in the driver) the monitor can still override it by setting the Aspect to "Native" in the OSD. I got the same effect either way.Quote:
Originally Posted by KoHaN69
:cool:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Soulburner
That's good. Source-engined games support 1400x1050, and so does Battlefield 2. I hope I can simply tweak older games to support that resolution as well.
One last concern before I get it:
Which cable does it come with: DVI-D, DVI-A, DVI-I? :shrug:
Does it have PiP ?
Do the 2 audio connectors act as extension ports?
What does Ultra Wide Screen Dual Page display mean?
1. DVI-D (who uses DVI-A or DVI-I?)
2. No PiP
3. Can't comment on the audio
4. Sounds like its just marketing. They mean to say that on a widescreen such as this, you can fit 2 windows side by side.
A lot of games can be forced to run in widescreen resolutions if they aren't normally supported that way. I run NFS: Carbon and Doom 3 at 1680x1050. I also play Titan Quest, which the developer was nice enough to include this in the video options. It almost seems that it detects your available resolutions from your display properties, because the resolutions available to me on my 22" and the ones available on the laptop are different. Up to 1680x1050 on mine, 1280x800 on the laptop which is correct. More developers should take notice...
It isn't fully correct on the 1:1 pixel mapping by what I assume is an ATI card, with ATI mobile graphics cards they do it right but desktop cards they don't. The difference is they add black bars to the top and the bottom of the screen yet the resolution is a 4:3 display and should not have bars on top or bottom.
If you're referring to:Quote:
Originally Posted by Teratism
Then that IS correct, because it's 1:1 pixel mapping by the monitor itself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Soulburner
at 1400x1050 you will have black bars on the side with 4:3 ratio
Or did I misunderstand you?
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1149693
This should explain what I meant.
I'm in that market for a nice 24 inch screen. What is my best option? :(
So far the BenQ looks better than the Samsung and Dell.
The price can be up to $800.
I'm extremely happy with my 22" WS benq :D I only wish it had lower aspect-correct resolutions so I could play games at higher FPS. I've noticed that samsung LCDs seem to have a lot of supported aspect-correct resolutions (ie: not just 1680x1050 but also 1440x900 and others).Quote:
Originally Posted by Knight
Right, but you don't want to use them. Because it is non-native, it is not nearly as clear as 1680x1050 on a 22" screen.Quote:
Originally Posted by halo112358
All you need is one of the top-end graphics cards - at least of ATi Radeon X1900XTX 512Mb or nVidia GeForce 7900GTX 512Mb spec or above to run good framerates on games @ 1680x1050. LCDs don't look anywhere near as good on non-native resolutions, regardless of scaling options.Quote:
Originally Posted by halo112358
Get a second card for Crossfire/SLI if you want more fps. :)
Hi all,
Has anyone had to do with HP LP2465? My primary concern is how it will look like in games or DVD movies. Heard about some bluriness and hitching in multimedia apps but that was a while ago.
Thank you.
i really recommend the DELL 2407FPW,
i bought this monitor almost a year ago, and all i can say is WOW..1920x1200, dvds look awesome, and almost any games can run at native resolution, ( albeit with a reduced image quality ). i know that one some revisions ( a02 and before ) that there is some color banding, i think mine's a rev2. and ,in i think it's multimedia mode, you can see some of it, i think...
anyway, lots of input, PIP, PBP, and almost anything you would want out of a multi-function-monitor...
cheers
If I had to choose a 24" with money as a concern it would definetely be the Dell 24". However with no regards to cost I would choose the BenQ.
Still though, I rather like the 22" because 1680x1050 is a good resolution to game at. It isn't too big to need a ludicrous video card that will be outdated in 6 months.
Someone needs to make a non-TN 22" panel with an adjustable stand...
Lol, no regards to cost I would get an Eizo or NEC. I was recently looking at alot of specs and reviews of monitors in the 20"-24" range. 24" are still too expensive for me at $600+ and the nicer ones at $700+. I was going to get a 22" widescreen but I found out most of them use cheaper panels. Alot of people noticed the increased sharpness and quality of 19-20" when both were compared side-by-side (such as the smaller and larger versions of the same model line) I didn't really care for the 1440X900 resolution and thought all widescreen monitors in that size were like that. I almost forgot to look at the Dell monitors until recently and noticed that for the price they were superior to all the other monitors I've seen in quality and features. I might be getting the 2007WFP 20.1" widescreen 1680X1050:Quote:
However with no regards to cost I would choose the BenQ.
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/p...9&sku=320-4688
Although I'm very tempted by the Dell 24" UltraSharp 2407WFP at $609.
compare to other popular monitors:
SAMSUNG 206BW
The ever popular Samsung, good all-around 22" widescreen but still uses an inferior panel with poor viewing angle and some backlight bleed.
HP W2207
Coveted for it's glossy screen which some people find annoying because of reflections, supposed to be one of the best 22" widescreens but some people have said that it's quality is noticably lacking when compared side-by-side to it's 19-20" younger brothers, W2007/W1907.
Philips 200P7EB/27
An example of a relatively inexpensive 20.1" 1600X1200 using a top quality panel (unlike the 22" widescreens), dead giveway is the higher than usual price and the high viewing angle, 178 by 178 degrees and the slightly higher response time compared to most "gaming LCD's". It's still cheaper than most monitors at it's quality range.
HP LP 2065
Similar specs to the Philips listed above, somewhat less expensive, high quality panel.
LG L226WTX-BF
Said to have slightly better color quality than the Samsung but worse backlight bleed. Another version of this monitor, the L226WA is better and more expensive but said to be one of the best 22" widescreens, however it's almost impossible to find in the US. Listed here:
http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/pro...10084266&catid
Gererally speaking the better 19-20" use the best panels, the 22" widescreens use the lower quality panels and the 24" widescreens use intermediate quality (better than the 22", worse than the nicer 19-20") There's a guide to panel technology at HardForum:
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1039222
Also look here:
http://www.widescreengamingforum.com...p/Category:XHD
I wouldn't say the 22" monitors use "lower quality" panels. It is simply a different type. The 22" screen are TN based panels where the others are not.
TN panels can produce good color when calibrated and are among the fastest. The downside is the viewing angle is very picky, and I'm talking up and down, looking at it straight on, not from the side.
I'm thinking about the BenQ fp222wh, mainly for it's connectors. I want to keep the option of using it as a console gaming monitor. Is there anything comparable to this in the same price range? Anyone with experience?
KICK ASS GUIDE!!!! Should have noticed this thread earlier.
What I really need is more CPU horsepower :P I've got an 8800gts bound by a 3ghz Opteron...Quote:
Originally Posted by SquattingDog
I'm kind of curious if there is some way to force 1440x900 on the benq fp222w, I'd really like to cut pixels on screen from ~1.75M to ~1.2M .. that should make things a little faster :D
Hey guys. I'm still on my 2405fpw here. Man I wish Dell made a 22" version of this screen (2207fpw?) and priced it at ~$300 :(
Question:
Sceptrex22wg-Gamer
VS Sceptre x22wg-1080p
The x22wg-1080p is cheaper and supposedly much better (by spec comparison).
What gives? Is it the same panel? :shrug:
Looks like the X2gen was slightly updated:
x22wg-Gamer
anyone try that one yet?
-kohan
I'm in the same boat. I'd be willing to go up to about 350-375 for 22 wide that has hdmi...any suggestions?Quote:
Originally Posted by thunderstruck!
Did a bunch of research, knew I didn't want a TN panel so I was looking for alternatives that I could buy locally. I wanted a 24" or 26" screen, main use is photography, video and the odd game.
Went to buy a Benq FP241VW even though the colors looked a little saturated, but figured I could set it up later, it has a great feature set as well as being a S-PVA panel.
Of course none in stock, so that Acer AL2616W looked very nice, not much for features but a nice 26" P-MVA panel so I bought it.
Get home pull my trusty old 19" CRT off the desk and put this monster on. Fired her up and she looked beautiful!
Then the fun started, it's native resolution of 1900x1200 wasn't on the listed as one of the modes supported by my 7600GT. As a matter of fact the highest supported resolution supported by the GPU/monitor talking to each other "plug and play" was 1690x1050. So I uncheck the "hide modes not supported box" and set the monitor to 1900x1200 "native resolution. And what I got was a screen that wouldn't fit on the display i.e. had to move the cursor around to see hidden parts of the screen. Look up the mode on the LCD and it's running at 1900x1050.
So off to the Internet I go. And sure enough find that Acer has a problem with the monitor, early models will not display native resolution due to some problem they will not elaborate on. Many people have RMAed their screens and are waiting forever to get them back.
Bottom line seems to be Acer fixed the problem with displays built from Dec.2006 onwards. Mine was dated Oct. 2006.
Thankfully I bought locally so I'm just taking it back to the store today and hope they have some that where manufactured this year.
P.S. I would really like an IPS panel but other than the NEC2690WUX or 2490WUX I can't find a reasonably priced one. Anyone know of one? I'm not going to order a Dell 2007WFP and HOPE it's an IPS, I want to know what I'm getting.
Well, the Sceptre X22WG-1080P sucks royal balls in comparison to the same-priced ViewSonic VX2235wm (and the Dell 2405fpw)
The skin tones are much worse, and everything is tinted blue
both monitors (Sceptre x22wg and ViewSonic vx2245) have backlight bleeding issues. The Sceptre bleeds heavily in the bottom-right corner while the viewsonic is symmetrically bleeding on equally top and bottom.
Both monitors lack 4:3 with black bars, both seemed to have the same response rate using Counter-strike source and passmark monitor test
Both monitors color temp was set to 6500 and only the contrast/bright on the sceptre was adjusted down (the defaults were hurting to look at)
note: this was the x2gen-1080p, apparently there are effing 3 versions of x2gen
http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11169064&topnav=&whse=BC&Ne=40 00000&N=4018491&Mo=10&No=6&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&cat =62021&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&Sp=C&hierPath=84* 1680*62021*
http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11202025&topnav=&whse=BC&Ne=40 00000&N=4018491&Mo=10&No=10&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&ca t=62021&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&Sp=C&hierPath=84 *1680*62021*
http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11187193&topnav=&whse=BC&Ne=40 00000&N=4018491&Mo=10&No=8&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&cat =62021&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&Sp=C&hierPath=84* 1680*62021*
I've been looking around for "good" lcd's for a couple days now...and i have narrowed my choice down to:
NEC LCD20WGX2 [AS-IPS] - wide screen $900aud - 1680x1050 / 1440 x 900
Philips 200P7EB/75 [cheapest] $650aud
HP LP2065 $800ish aud
in this order of preference.
they are all S-IPS panels 8ms (um, the NEC states 6ms AS-IPS)
the NEC gets excellent reviews everywhere i have looked, it is also the most expensive.
http://www.nec-display-solutions.com...3646,group=all
http://forums.anandtech.com/messagev...&enterthread=y
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/
..but it all depends what you like in a screen...i'm trying to get the best compromise between picture quality/gamut and response time....and i refuse to pay 1000 clams or more for a monitor.
..and tft panels keep improving...not more than 1 year ago i was looking at an 800 dollar samsung 20 " and it now retails for 400 :lol:
so prices keep falling and better panels keep coming out, and as time has shown me , quite quickly as well.
i dont know whether the rapid rate of tft evolution will continue...but if it doesnt, a newer technology no doubt will replace it...like Sony's FED (SED) technology.
So; until i have saved up the dough i'll be monitoring (haha get it ?) prices and panels, expecting further price drops...even though i occasionally hear stories saying there will be lcd panel shortages, i've never noticed electronics prices that have not fallen...:)
as for TN panels...has anyone heard anything about the Samsung 206BW?
I don't agree with any of this.Quote:
Originally Posted by KoHaN69
1. My monitor doesn't have problems with a blue tint. Have you calibrated it? My color looks quite good, better than I expected.
2. I don't have major backlight bleeding issues. People really over exaggerate it. I never notice.
3. The x22wg does any aspect ratio you want. Read my review of the monitor. You can do NATIVE or FULL aspects. Native meaning you can have your image in the middle and the area around it in black.
1. I do not have an external calibrating tool.Quote:
Originally Posted by Soulburner
2. The backlight bleeding was quiet severe.
3. NO, that was not avaiable, at least for dvi. I believe the x22wg-Gamer is NOT the same thing as the x22wg-1080p model I tested.
You may be right then. I wasn't even aware they had more than one model.
I don't have a special calibrating tool either, but I will get one with my next monitor.
Yeah, I was surprised as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Soulburner
check those out, maybeQuote:
Originally Posted by KoHaN69
now i'm looking at samsung 215tw S-PVA 8ms: ($635aud)
my second choice behind NEC GX2 20" 6ms AS-IPS ($900aud)
3rd choice:
TN panel samsung 226bw (with "s"-panel by samsung..."a"-panel not as good): ($500ish aud)
22" 0.258 dot pitch 2ms HDCP 3000:1
Anyone have experience with the Sceptre brand? I was looking at their 20/20.1 inch LCD screens, and they seem good on paper.
I would like to know if you think it is ok to get this screen over the Samsung.
Sceptre (Two that seem the same to me, but with different names)
http://www.sceptre.com/Products/LCD/...20wg_1080p.htm
or
http://www.sceptre.com/products/lcd/...x20wg_Naga.htm
Samsung
http://www.samsung.com/Products/Moni...0MEWSFVXAA.asp
The Samsung will cost me $70 more.
well ; as you say it looks good on paper...i have no idea whose panels sceptre uses for that particular model.
..it is a panel lottery if you cannot compare the panels visually side by side in a shop imo.
google for reviews and see what you find on the sceptre naga i s'pose :)
I could only find Samsung reviews, and they were great. I will find the thread which had a member review a Sceptre screen.Quote:
Originally Posted by adamsleath
http://forums.anandtech.com/messagev...&enterthread=y
this is quite a good thread at anandtech.
Anyone know what the benQ FP241W LCD's are like?
(Also, you might want to look at buying in from the US Adamsleath, i've found that 9 times out of 10 its cheaper than buying in Australia.)
what do I need to have a dual monitor? like what kind of cables, gpu.
what kind of resolution do I need on each monitor like do I have a limit on the resolution? like two 1600 by 1200?
also im thinking on getting a 30' inch lcd or a dual display?
That worries me that not a single one of the Dell monitors are on that list.Quote:
Originally Posted by adamsleath
I thought the 2407 was supposed to be really good for the price. You can get it for $569 right now which is pretty tempting, and it is not recommended at all on that list? I don't want to fork out the money for the BenQ because items like this depreciate too fast. I can save the $100 or so and be better off in a year or two when I move on to the next one, and the difference between the Dell 2407WWP and BenQ FP241W likely isn't huge anyway.
What I would really like is an AS-IPS panel, but they are so expensive that $600 only buys you 20 inches. That isn't enough for me, I need a 24" 1920x1200 screen for photo editing with gaming on the side. Then again that BenQ is down to $669 at Newegg putting it within Dell territory (when they aren't running specials). Some people spend that kind of money on a video card and upgrade every generation...doesn't make it seem so bad then.
anything x800/gf6000 and later with dual-dvi ports would do itQuote:
Originally Posted by p360stick
According to that LCD Thread, the 20.1"w: NEC MultiSync 20WMGX2 is the best all-around monitor. It sports an AS-IPS panel, gives you great speed and color at the same time, and a wide viewing angle. Its too bad that the $600 price tag only buys you 20 inches. It seems for those of us that want/need a 24" 1920x1200 display the BenQ FP241W might still be the best there is, aside from Eizo.
There are also a couple variations of the BenQ 24 incher now. One of them is reviewed here:
FP241VW
http://www.3dgameman.com/content/view/8277/103/
http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggIma...014-133-14.jpg
...until i hear anything bad about it i think this dell one is also a contender...:
Dell 2407WFP-HC 6ms G2G 24"WS Samsung S-PVA (LTM240M2) "rev A04"
but note: NOT original wfp A00 or A01 rev's.
http://www.bexox.com/showdown.htm - a comparison of dell 2407wfp-hc & benq24" & lg24"
this article also mentions lg l246wp.
the article rated Benq FP241WZ the highest for PC & Video use.
i think the dell is a little cheaper than the Benq if money is a concern...and they are very close in quality it seems....but Benq has the edge.
Benq 24": $1100aud
Dell 24": $1000-1100aud
well; i'd take the Benq based on those prices. (glad to have gotten to the bottom of that one :))
Now it's a toss up between NEC 20wgx2 (20") and BenqFP241W (24") most wood take the Benq i think.
BenQ FP241W Reviews:
Bit-Tech
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/200.../Benq_FP241W/1
HardForum Thread (180 pages)
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1066372
Trusted Reviews
http://www.trustedreviews.com/displa...een-Monitor/p1
CNET
http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/monitors/0...9285404,00.htm
BenQ FP241W
BenQ FP241W 6ms G2G 24"WS AU Optronics P-MVA (M240UW01 V0)
...trusted reviews: 10/10 in all four categories...looks good :up:
...and 1080p HDCP
Games and Video ..yum yum.
http://www.trustedreviews.com/images...ine/3425-1.jpg
http://www.trustedreviews.com/images...ine/3425-3.jpgQuote:
Looking at the rear of the FP241W reveals the feature that makes this monitor stand out from the crowd of other 24in widescreen displays – an HDMI port. Not only is there an HDMI port, but it’s an HDCP compliant HDMI port, so you’ll have no problem hooking up a Blu-ray or HD DVD player, or like I did, a Sky HD box.
http://www.trustedreviews.com/images...ine/3425-4.jpg
also a decently robust looking adjustable stand.
i have to agree; unless you want to pay more than double the price for a NEC S-IPS type 24" screen, this is the one.Quote:
Put simply, if you’re after a 24in widescreen monitor, this is the one to buy
What's the deal with this cheapie 24"...new brand?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824185004
http://www.fatwallet.com/t/18/734358
24" Monitor Showdown
BenQ FP241WZ vs. Dell 2407WFP-A04 vs. LG L246WP
http://www.bexox.com/showdown.htm
Took me a bit of searching to find that one.
Nice find! Huge props to the guy for testing dreamcast VGA:clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by Soulburner
The 226BW is a popular Samsung 22" widescreen gaming LCD with a rated response time of 2ms. Some people are afraid to buy it now that the "S" panel made by Samsung has been replaced largely with the "C" panel, made by Chi Mei, and the "A" panel by AUO.
For those out their concerned about the quality of the "C" or "A" versions of the 226BW, I have posted a review of the "C" with custom ICC color profiles included to dramatically improve the bad color that it comes with. Behardware did the same with the "A" version.
Bottomline: the gaming performance between all panels is virtually the same, and the color of the non-"S" panels can be fixed very effectively with a custom ICC profile. If you're on the fence I would highly recommend this monitor, now less than $300 at NewEgg.
i had already posted that link :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by adamsleath
I must have passed right over it...anyway as far as that BenQ goes, just get the one without the Z. It is a lot cheaper, $669 US right now and the AMA-Z most people end up not liking. Read my comments in "24" LCD's faster than 60Hz - When"? - to see what I think the improvements need to be to really make that work.
we are searching for the same thing...a better lcd than is already available...imo.
Please suggest a
BEST 19" monitor < $250 to watch movies,programming,little home video editing.
widescreen 19" ?Quote:
Originally Posted by mutambo
first; the ultimate in quality and all round performance seems to be the NEC 20" wgx2 - it is widescreen AS-IPS type and is much recommended.
i have seen a 19" ws...just have to find it again...im sure there arent many.
on the other hand look at this list: :eek:
as for recommending; i can't recommend any of them as i have never used them :)
i would pick a 5ms or less panel and start looking at reviews.
these are all TN type:
...BenQ FP94VW 2ms G2G 19"WS AU Optronics TN Film (M190PW01 V0)
NEC AccuSync LCD193WXM 5ms 19"WS TN Film
NEC LCD193WM 5ms 19"WS TN Film
Xerox XR6-19DW 8ms 19"WS TN Film
[Samsung 940BX 5ms G2G 19" Samsung TN Film (LTM190EX) - a much recommended panel...not wide screen]
Samsung SM931BW 2ms G2G 19"WS Samsung TN Film
Samsung 906BW 2ms G2G 19"WS TN Film - recent/current model.
Westinghouse LCM-19w4 8ms 19"WS Chi Mei Optoelectronics TN Film (M190A1)
HP w19 8ms 19"WS TN Film
BenQ FP92Wa 5ms 19"WS TN Film
Iiyama ProLite E1900WS-B1 5ms 19"WS TN Film
Neovo K-A19 3ms 19"WS TN Film
AOC 193SW 8ms 19"WS TN Film
ViewSonic VG1930wm 5ms 19"WS TN Film
V7 R19W11 5ms 19"WS TN Film
Asus VW192S 5ms 19"WS TN Film
Asus VW192G 5ms 19"WS TN Film
ViewSonic VX1945wm 5ms 19"WS TN Film
Sceptre X9WG-NagaV 8ms 19"WS TN Film
Sceptre X9WG-NagaV (ver 1) 5ms 19"WS TN Film
Acer AL1916ws 8ms 19"WS Chi Mei Optoelectronics TN Film (M190A1)
Videoseven L19WA 8ms 19"WS Chi Mei Optoelectronics TN Film (M190A1)
ViewSonic VA1912W 8ms 19"WS Chi Mei Optoelectronics TN Film (M190A1)
Xerox XM3-19w 8ms 19"WS Chi Mei Optoelectronics TN Film (M190A1)
Iiyama ProLite EW1900S-S 5ms 19"WS TN Film
Iiyama ProLite EW1900S-B 5ms 19"WS TN Film
Iiyama ProLite EW1901S-S 5ms 19"WS TN Film
Iiyama ProLite EW1901S-B 5ms 19"WS TN Film
Packard Bell Maestro 19 8ms 19"WS Chi Mei Optoelectronics TN Film (M190A1)
GNR TS902W 8ms 19"WS Chi Mei Optoelectronics TN Film (M190A1)
BenQ FP92W 5ms 19"WS TN Film
Advent X19TV 8ms 19"WS Chi Mei Optoelectronics TN Film (M190A1)
Videoseven L19WD 5ms 19"WS TN Film
Yakumo 19WJT 5ms 19"WS Chi Mei Optoelectronics TN Film (M190A1-L02)
Belinea 1925S1W 5ms 19"WS Chi Mei Optoelectronics TN Film (M190A1-L02)
BenQ FP93VW 5ms 19"WS TN Film
Daewoo W9ZQ 5ms 19"WS Chi Mei Optoelectronics TN Film (M190A1-L02)
Hyundai N91W 5ms 19"WS Samsung TN Film (LTM190M2)
LG L194WT 5ms 19"WS TN Film
Mirai DML-319W100 8ms 19"WS Chi Mei Optoelectronics TN Film (M190A1)
Mirai DML-519W100 8ms 19"WS Chi Mei Optoelectronics TN Film (M190A1)
ViewSonic VA1912w-2 8ms 19"WS Chi Mei Optoelectronics TN Film (M190A1)
Hyundai X91W 8ms 19"WS Chi Mei Optoelectronics TN Film (M190A1)
lol; there seem to have a been a few...
Supposedly a good panel...non widescreen.
Samsung 930BF 4ms G2G 19" Samsung TN Film (LTM190EX-L21)
Samsung 913B 8ms 19" Samsung TN Film (LTM190EX-L01)
Samsung 913N 8ms 19" Samsung TN Film (LTM190EX-L01)
Samsung 915N 8ms 19" Samsung TN Film (LTM190EX-L01)
Samsung 920N 8ms 19" TN Film (LTM190EX)
Samsung 930B 8ms 19" Samsung TN Film (LTM190EX-L01)
Samsung 940B 8ms 19" Samsung TN Film (LTM190EX-L01)
Samsung 940N 8ms 19" Samsung TN Film (LTM190EX-L01)
Samsung 950B 8ms 19" Samsung TN Film (LTM190EX)
BenQ FP937s+ 8ms 19" Samsung TN Film (LTM190EX-L01)
Fujitsu-Siemens T19-2 8ms 19" Samsung TN Film (LTM190EX-L01)
Hyundai B90A 8ms 19" Samsung TN Film (LTM190EX-L01)
Hyundai L90D+ 8ms 19" Samsung TN Film (LTM190EX-L01)
Iiyama E480S-B 8ms 19" Samsung TN Film (LTM190EX-L01)
Iiyama E480S-S 8ms 19" Samsung TN Film (LTM190EX-L01)
Iiyama E481S 8ms or 25ms 19" Samsung TN Film (LTM190EX-L01) or LG.Philips S-IPS (LM190E01-C4)
Hyundai B91D 4ms G2G 19" Samsung TN Film (LTM190EX-L21)
Samsung 901N 8ms 19" Samsung TN Film (LTM190EX-L01)
Samsung 901B 8ms 19" Samsung TN Film (LTM190EX-L01)
NEC MultiSync 90GX2 Pro 2ms G2G 19" Samsung TN Film (LTM190EX)
Samsung 940BX 5ms G2G 19" Samsung TN Film (LTM190EX)
Samsung SM932B 5ms 19" Samsung TN Film (LTM190EX)
Trying to find
19" or 20"
Wide or regular
<=$200
3-warranty
To watch movies,home video editing,programming,little aesthetic
chimei is a cheap brand.
After 8 months of watching the market, prices, and reviews...my BenQ FP241W is on its way. It will likely be here in the middle of next week, so I will finally get a chance to see what's supposed to be one of the best 24" monitors available today :D
taking your own advice i see :D
This thing is awesome. First impressions are great, no real testing yet due to a lack of time.
Spyder doing its thing:
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One thing, this thing is extremely bright as all the reviews say. You will be turning it down slightly even after its calibrated.
:D
what is that thing soul???????
http://www.colorvision.com/
This thing has really white whites and really black blacks...at the same time...it seems wierd because I am really not used to it, but its how its supposed to be.
I couldn't get this result before the calibration. Also the color was off a bit and it looks a lot better overall.
Do you know any good monitors in 22", widescreen and has HD capability? I'm looking into getting a new monitor.Quote:
Originally Posted by adamsleath
What do you mean by "HD capability"?Quote:
Originally Posted by TVFREAKAZOID
Be able to watch High Definition movies. So, if I were to get a hd-dvd or blue ray drive. The reason why I say that because I've seen monitors that state HD quality. I think it was a Gateway monitor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Soulburner
"HD" simply means high resolution format...
Now it depends what you want to do. You can watch 720p movies fine, but 1080p needs more resolution, so you will need a 24" 1920x1200 screen for that. You will likely want an HDCP compatible monitor with HDMI for that, which my Sceptre x22 has, and I believe is one of the only 22" screens that does.
looks great the benq 24.... any bleeding at the edges?...doesnt look like it from your pic....[you have the same modem as me - i see it in the pic :)]
the only lcd's i know of with 1920x1200 that are less than 24" is in notebook screens (ie 17"); if you find one let me know :)
Backlight bleeding - negligible. I can't even tell. This is a very good screen. Still need more time with it but so far its much more uniform than my 22" TN panel that got dark toward the top unless you tilted it forward (so the top is closer to you). All LCD panels are angle-dependant, this one is just much less.
Also, zero ghosting. My 8800GTS runs Doom 3 even at 1920x1200 8xAA on Ultra Quality and maxes the framerate with Vsync on and its smooth as butter. Running and jumping around and just chaos in general...and I cannot induce any visible ghosting of the screen :D
How much is your monitor? 24 inch monitors are a little pricey. So, specs should I look for that is considered a good monitor that can handle games and movies? What do you mean by backlight bleeding? Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Soulburner
@ Soul..can you post your set up specs,RGB, brightness etc so i can get mine as near as dammit when it arrives on monday?
Its not that im cheap (honest :D),but funds mean ill have to wait a month before i can get a decent calibration system (contemplating the Spyder2express though).
Thanks ,Matt. :)
I can send you my profile. It will get you really close without being calibrated specifically for your room/lighting. I don't calibrate with the monitor, its left at default and the spyder changes everything in software.
So you have an FP241W coming huh? You will like it, a lot :D
The FP241WZ isn't necessary, I can't even find any ghosting on this beast so you don't need the black frame insertion. It's a cool idea, and in theory it will work but a few more advances need to happen to make that work perfectly.
It's getting cheaper all the time over here in the UK,my pay packets due,i've done the overtime (im not rich like some of you hardware guys :p: ),so it's a good time to buy. :)
Thanks for the .icc
Yeah I picked it up from Newegg when it was $669, the next day it went up $60 bucks but they added a small mail in rebate.
I just checked the pricing over here for the FP241W. We'll i thought 700E is not too bad for this kind of monitor. Cheapest that i found is :cussing: :cussing: :censored: :censored: :upset: 922E with the rest above 1000E!
what do you guys think of the LP2065 from HP , I picked up a S-IPS model and was wondering how good is it ?
i've heard its good...also heard mixed reports.
some users love it others are very picky...
being a s-ips gives it a head start - ie great picture quality true 8-bit; not sure whether response is good enuf for gaming..?
http://forums.anandtech.com/messagev...&enterthread=y
ive heard mention of noticeable flicker on grey backgrounds...with hp2065
Any opinions on the LG L245WPM-BN 24"? Its rather cheap like most LG displays but i've had good experience with them*edit LG as a company not the monitor*
Is there anything better than the NEC WMX20 right now?
I want fast response time on a non-TN panel, preferably IPS, in the 20-24" range. The WMX20 is about $500, so I am looking for something a little cheaper.
I have immediate response, no input lag and no ghosting with my BenQ FP241W. Also great color and contrast, and the best inputs/scaling options of any (and yes they really work! - unlike some).
Me 2 looking to buy a replcement for my old 21" Sony G520 CRT , had this thing for over 5 yers and want something bigger now :)
Most of the time it will be used for intense gaming :) and watching DVD/HD DVD/Blue Ray movies . Are there any new 30" LCD's coming out soon ? What do you think will be a better choise BenQ FP241W or Dell 3007WFP ? New technology Vs. huge size old screen :rolleyes: - what will make a better gaming experience you think ? Never had an LCD screen before and have no idea what to expect :) . Or maybe just wait for new 30" models ? :confused: :D
Dell sells 3000WFP for only $ 1269 now , very tempted to pull the triger but wanted to ask your opinions first :)
24" is about as big as I'd ever put on my desk, and its a bit further back than my others so I don't get nauseous when playing :cool:
Seriously, it dwarfs my 22". You would think they would be close, but they aren't. I don't even want to know how big a 30" LCD really is in person.
Do you have the power to push 2560x1600?
Well i ordered the LG after seeing a lot of positive reviews from quite a few people here in Greece. I'll post more details whenever the monitor arrives. Now i only need to make space for it :rolleyes: