I'd like to see how you are mounting the Chilly block, since I have one. Any pics? :confused: :confused: :confused:
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Originally Posted by Eel
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I'd like to see how you are mounting the Chilly block, since I have one. Any pics? :confused: :confused: :confused:
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Originally Posted by Eel
Have a look at this thread, same way someone used to mount Vapochill LS (stoolman is Eel at XS).Quote:
Originally Posted by uclajd
i did some tweaking and got over 31k now... still under 2.4ghz
31294
I have tried, but it seems that the Dothan core is slightly higher than the P4 core, so there is a bit of a gap around the edges. I will still be using it when i mount the vapochill on though, is better than the bare core.Quote:
Originally Posted by death metal
Yeah, that's what I was planning on. Was just looking for something different.
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Originally Posted by Kamerat
New CPU PM770, new OVERKLOKK modded prommie for the videocard.. (Haven't voltmodded the videcard yet though..)
Gotta repeat myself.. dothan rocks..!
And, i have insulated the adapter and the socket for Chilly1 evap in a different way now.. works great..
here are some results..http://home.broadpark.no/~gretedka/superpi770/clock.jpg
http://home.broadpark.no/~gretedka/superpi770/mem.jpg
http://home.broadpark.no/~gretedka/s...%2001score.jpg
http://home.broadpark.no/~gretedka/superpi770/best.jpg
This is getting more fun day by day! :banana:
nice, nice, nice..........
So the higher binned 770 outperformed you earlier CPU?
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thanks for the answer. what do you plan to use to level/fully fit the IHS on the core?Quote:
Originally Posted by stergiopilus
26 seconds now :toast:
http://images.dr3vil.com/uploads/new record.JPG
Does anyone know how to get clockgen to work in ghost mode.
I'm using P4P800SE motherboard.
It freezes on me when I run it in ghost mode.
I created a save.txt with the following lines:
[CG-ICS952607]
FSB=225
AGP=66
I'm able to set it manually in clockgen but when I use the save.txt file it freezes my system. Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong.
Yep, sure did... by far actually.. i only had a about half an hour to bench last night..so i would assume that the 770 is good for a lot more.... i am going to test Dry Ice tomorrow to see if i can push 21 seconds in superpi :DQuote:
Originally Posted by charlie
How you mounting your phase to the GPU?
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Originally Posted by Eel
After a long satisfying benchnight I got to this:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=32999&stc=1
~2750 seems to be the CPU max.
Right here Im balancing my ~250max Mushkin LVL2 BH5 quite nicely.
Oh, 7700 on the CPU, 40 load @ 1.6vcore, 3.5vdimm.
From here on, its tweaks-only I guess :D
Now running in diag mode + priority only.
I'll get that 25sec!
(Broke 27K in 3d01 with my dusty non-modded 9800Pro on air but it needs more work)
Hey guys! I'm going to buy an dothan setup too :) But i must choose now between 2 boards: The P4P800SE and the P4GD1. Is the P4P800SE really a pain in the ass or not? I think the P4GD1 is the best choise but the P4P800SE is really cheap for me so... What board should I take ?
Keep in mind p4gd1 has no pci locks above 220FSB, I'm also willing to got that route. Check this by Kamerat, many hints 'bout the p4gd1 http://home.no.net/comerade/pc/p4gd1.html
He used pci-e freqs up to 225Mhz :eek:
Hmmmm........Do you remember how high and with how much VCore did this CPU went?...Thanks...... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Eel
So i could better take the P4P800SE or sucks that board too :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by Always
I'm going to buy Pentium M740 with Watercooling :)
A new BIOS for Asus P4P800-X showed up yesterday.
Can't find any info about CT-479 support though.
If you can live without PAT the P4P800SE is just fine (You can have PAT up to 200FSB, but you need to boot at 201+FSB to get AGP/PCI locked).Quote:
Originally Posted by DaWaN
Besides PAT my earlier P4P800SE clocked equally good to the P4C800-E DLX I have now. Actually, it went all the way past 300FSB, which is more than my current board can.
I sold my second hand almost new P4P800SE for the same price I gave for an older P4C800-E DLX. If you can find such a deal go for the P4C800-E DLX.
I'll add that to the front page when someone reports something ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mats
This is how i mount a chipset block (made by eleven) to my dothan - p4c800-e deluxe mobo.
Temps at 2800(rock stable) with 1,5vcore are 36 idle and 43 full load.
Reffering to the p4gd1 mobo, what's the best DDR ram to pair with 915P chipset?
I think BH-5 just because i915 can't hit very high FSB because of lack of PCI lockQuote:
Originally Posted by Always
Btw, so the P4P800SE is fine with Dothan (740)? And the P4P800 suck don't they? I just want some confirm because i don't want to buy a bad motherboard :p:
is it possible to flash my P4C800-DLX(non-e) with the newest P4C800E-DLX BIOS with all the voltage/multiplier options?
Finally I am in the 40k club... thanks to the wonderful Dothan initiative from Intel, and the brilliant idea of the CT adapter from Asus.. :toast: My new 770 processor clocks real well, and my new OVERKLOKK modded prommie for the videocard really rocks.... :clap:
here are the clocks and the scores..
btw; used EIST to increase mltpl, CG to increase fsb, 875/865 tweaker to tighten ram settings.. and of course two prommies modded by OVERKLOKK with R507...@-45 C
http://home.broadpark.no/~gretedka/40k/40kclock.jpg
http://home.broadpark.no/~gretedka/40k/best40k.jpg
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8627380
http://home.broadpark.no/~gretedka/superpi770/best.jpg
This is just getting better and better...
Eel,
Can you show how you are mounting the prommie to the vid card?
Also, for those on the short bus, how exactly are you getting 1.7+ vcore.
TIA
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Originally Posted by Eel
I think you could do that with older afudos and some switches (do not remember which ones, but they are in this thread somewhere as i recall), though I am not sure, but then your network adapter should not work as it is different, and then you cannot have RAID on non E DELUXE....Quote:
Originally Posted by nathan400
Grats! ;) However your Nature is a bit on the low side for those clocks. My Pro VIVO @ 16p 625/630 get 270 fpsQuote:
Originally Posted by Eel
Wich means your score can be better ;) :toast:
Yeah his nature is low,with that gpu clock he should see nature about 315-320fps,i think he forgot to move slider in cp to best performance. ;)
I do have a problem in Nature.. I'm using the Omega 4.12 drivers, and I HAVE set the drivers at maximum performance.. And, I will post how i mounted the prommie on the vidcard, as well as how i get 1,7V + later on tonight.. Right now i am in teh middle of a moving session.... really stinks..
The latest beta bios for P4C800-E Deluxe (1001.023) also works for P4C800 & P4C800 Deluxe.
The multiplier & Vcore option work fine.
You will lose your LAN (diff. chip) and your raid.
I flashed the bios using /n /pbnc switches with afudos 2.18
The EIST also works fine for both multi & Vcore
uclajd: I see you are also using P4P800 SE ..have you tried the bootblock mod to get the PAT -working when booting 201fsb and over? I mean Bigtoes invention where you flash P4P8X -boards bootblock with afudos to P4P800 -series board and after that flash the latest bios (for example 1009-003) with old 1.16b afudos wit suitable options not overwriting the first done bootblock. This mod should get you working fully enabled PAT 201+ fsb´s and agp/pci -locked.
Only restriction is that only 1:1 fsb/mem ratio works with the ´juiced´ bootblock. Wit BH-5 memory this is probably optimal anyways...
I don't really need the boot block since the bios is made for the SE, but I did it anyway, I boot above 201 and AGP lock is fine. Haven't tried PAT, too many other issues with my vid card. 5:4 doesn't work - I wish.
Also wish I had BH-5 - I am using ADATA which I can get to CAS 2.5 at 274 @ 3.0v, but not CAS 2.0.
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Originally Posted by luseruser
Put the OCZ -boostah to my rig and 2x512MB Twinmos new BH-5 takes some more RPM wit 3.3Vdimm :) (they did only about 219MHz with bios max 2.85Vdimm). 9 x 290fsb 5:4 divider so memory at 232MHz wit 5-2-2-2 PAT partially enabled. This seems to give reasonable good results beating 1:1 12x 217 PAT fully enabled with a clear difference. Got new record with default X800 XT PE in 3dmark2k1 ...whopping 32198 points. 3D -seems to be stable. Also memory benches are quite cruching in Everest, Sandra and specially in PC-mark 2002.
Really would like to test the bootblock mod and try 1:1 with PAT -fully enabled and 11x multi 236FSB. Might just well beat this 5:4 divider result.
Does enabling PAT influence vid card? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by uclajd
How come?
Well I fried my board - Actual smoke coming from the P4P800-SE's southbridge. That sucks. Oh well, looks like I am in the market for a P4C...
I really have been snake-bit in this little project. :mad:
More points 3DM2k1: :banana: :woot: http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8629691
...X800 XT PE vidcard still @ default clocks and othervice the system is not tuned in anyways. Multi @ 9x, 295FSB / 236MEM starting to show some quite impressive numbers. Sandra givin almost 6000MB/s buffered and easily over 3700MB/s unbuffed.
:eek2:Quote:
Originally Posted by uclajd
The magic smoke.... hmmmm. sucks...
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new beta bios 1023.001 for p4c800ed, i will try it as soon as possible...
thanx! here is the link ftp://ftp.asuscom.de/pub/ASUSCOM/BIO...C800-E_Deluxe/
Hey guys..
Has anyone tried to boot 201 with a b1 400fsb dothan? (and of course P4P/C)
Because since the new bioses you can put a lower multi so i thought it might solve the problem.
did not try, but i think it is useless as dothan 400 is known to be fsb limited around 180...
but how? i mean what has changed since the C0 came out?Quote:
Originally Posted by pvhk
it is nothing phisically isn't it?
it is due to the new core (c0) which can sustain high fsb, nothing else...
new results---With Chilly1
http://images.dr3vil.com/uploads/record.JPG
I had a 25 but pc restarted right as it was ending :(
Can I flash my P4P800-X with bios from another mobo(p4p800)
Do you have mobo, adapter & CPU?Quote:
Originally Posted by Backbone
They have some different network, audio and BIOS ROM chips at least.
-X have a 3 MB BIOS chip while SE have a 4 MB one.
I think you should try this new P4P800-X BIOS instead!!! :toast:
Someone have to try it out!
I mean, have we seen any Asus 865/875 BIOS updates lately that doesn't support the CT 479?
I really wish asus had not blocked 2 of the 478 mounting holes. But no worries, with the right tools, anything can be fixed.
So how do we mount a dangerden Maze 4 on a dothan?
well a Lathe + 3/8inch bar stock, a drill, tap and some filing gets us...
This and from another angle
Next we Mount the left and right using a screw up from the bottom of the mobo.
Finally we put a Maze 4 in my case, or any block that uses that type of mount, as its basically a normal 478 socket mount
Atleast thats how I did it :) maybe some of you will find this useful ;)
now that's just great.... probably the BEST I've seen!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Frozendeath
:woot:
One e-mail from Asus support:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mats
Dear Friend :
Thank you for contacting ASUS Customer Service.
My name is zane and I would be assisting you today.
Sorry.The mb is not support it.
Good luck.Hope that could help you
If having any problems, please don't hesitate to let me know. Let's discuss this issue together.
Thank you for using ASUS products and enjoying ASUS services!
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ASUS Customer Service Center (Shanghai ,! China)
If you have any suggestions or complaints about our technical support
service, please e-mail your feedback to support@asus.com.cn. We will then
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wow they really should hire some people that arent so imcompitent
Marvelous. A very clean and tidy way to solve an annoying problem. Well done! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Frozendeath
That is sweet - How 'bout you make more and sell them?
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Originally Posted by Frozendeath
If I had a CNC mill and lathe I might think of selling some, but I'm over here with manual equipment. I just don't have the time right now with work to make these in any form of bulk :(
I can post dimensions of it for those who want to make their own though would that help?
Yay !
I will post my mounting mod later,cheaper option just with bits found at local hardware store.
But my 740 has just booted up and managed 2.6 right out the box with std Vcore.
I would like to thank everyone who has posted about these and done all the digging for information as its realy helped me. :toast:
This is faster then my SD3700 was at 2.9 :woot:
Did you guys have expierience with the p4gd1? i will get it but is the multiplier unlocked at the modded bios?
And how does the board perform.
YES, PLEASE!Quote:
Originally Posted by Frozendeath
This is the kind of mod I need, I really want to keep my Swifty MCX478, is a bit old but wtf who cares! I'll probably end to do it from a hard plastic bar, not metal.
Four mounting holes = :banana:
Ok then, after work I will post the dimensions used along with a little drawing to make it as clear as possible :thumbsup:
my office setting
http://web5.h1902.serverkompetenz.ne...ce%20klein.jpg
wow!
Heh heh... I joined up here so I could post in this thread. Awesome work guys! Now my question. I have a P4P800 Deluxe (very cheaply procured) and a celeron M 350 (Even cheaper!), so I could flash it with the beta bios for the P4P800 and get support for the ct-479 and retain all features of the board. Now if I flash to the P4P800-E bios I will get vcore agp/pci lock and cpu vid adjustment, but will I loose any board features like raid or lan? I guess I would really like to know what the best bios would be for this board then. Thanks all you Xtreme GODS :D
Another step reached with my new 730: 1.6@2.6
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/6738/26000rl.th.jpg
Guys i think this has to be the easiest way, you need a TDX with a spacer ( like on the 775 Blocks) but with a 478 top.This lifts the top away from the power connectors and the jumpers. I spoke with Rokk over at DD and they should be able to cater for blocks on a special order, so just pop them an email first.The bars have to be bent...you could just bend 2 and push the others straight thru the mounting cage but i bent all 4...just remember to heat them up first so they don't crack and break. The whole bending process took me 5 mins and i cooled them under a running tap.
The pics should help you get a good idea of what i did, no modding of the card is required.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=33383&stc=1
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=33384&stc=1
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=33385&stc=1
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=33386&stc=1
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=33387&stc=1
Thats some nice stuff bigtoe! good job
bigtoe, is that a heatsink on the clock generator? :D
Looks like it to meQuote:
Originally Posted by bcn
I didn't gain MUCH from this:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...chmentid=33421
But it sure as HELL looks COOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
120mm>70mm UV fan adapter/120MM Aluminum Fan, from www.svc.com
how do i get my scores in the team. heres a link http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8622086
p4c800 e deluxe p4 730m 1,6@2,8 vapo ls . ill put up a 26 sec super pi up link tommorow :D
heres a screeny
Mounting a Prommie onto a Dothan.....
First of all, full of seal string - I'm fond of seal string - ..... :)
http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/D...eal_string.jpg
We can ALSO put a heatspreader of a P4 if we wish......The purpose of this is to avoid breaking the corners of the Dothan core which are TOO delicate.......I gained about 50MHz more with this on air but I think it was due to providing more pressure on the contact..... ;)
http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/D...t_spreader.jpg
Now........we take the clips of Dothans default heatsink and we just clip the prommie's head onto the socket.......
http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/D...mmie_mount.jpg
Finally a total system view and the clips from a different angle......
http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/D...ull_system.jpg
ALSO this CPU is craping out at about 3GHz no matter what VCore I give.......It reaches the 3GHz with 1.375VCore and does NOTHING at all if I give more VCore to it........Time for a new one........This one is from the first ones and of the year 2004...... :(
http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/D...24.313_png.png
So if i boot @ 201 my AGP/PCI is locked. But i lose PAT :fact:Quote:
Got my adapter and 730. 2,6GHz seems to be about the max for this chip with conventional cooling. Damm Asus P4P800 SE board looses the agp/pci -lock wit ATI -card when booting 200FSB. Bootin 201 locks them but looses the PAT -latensy enhancement... kinda sucks. ...doesn´t help much even when performance mode is enabled wit Tw865 -memtweaker. About 10ns slover latency, 60MB/s slower memory write and 450MB/s slower memory read measured with Everest home -benchmark with 1:1 217FSB PAT vs no PAT.
*might* be worth attempting a bootblock flash to keep PAT enabled over 200 fsb. Tried this personally but ended up nuking the bios. Was probably a mistake on my part though. Gave up however, and switched to a P4C which keeps PAT over 200 fsb without an issue
Correct me if i'm wrong but this issue is true only for ATI cards. With 6800 i can boot @200 FSB to keep my pat enabled. Then use clockgen to up the fsb. After changing the FSB in windows to more then 200 will PAT stay enabled?
And is it true that by booting @200FSB my mem timings are set 2.2.2.5? What if my ram cant handle those? Does it makes sence to have PAT enabled with 2.5,3,3,6?
Thanks in advance. You guys got me realy intrested in getting dothan rig. I will use p4p800se, 730, TCCD, and my custom AIR chilbox @-28c. Initialy i will just aircool it and then set it on chiled water. This will be my gaiming rig :woot:
HiPro, thanks for taking the time to post the pics. You can never post too many pics.
And yes, it seems friggin 3.0 is my max too, didn't get anything from going from Vapo to -85 cascade, but could be a contact issue. :(
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Originally Posted by hipro5
Yes, if you boot at 200 then up via clockgen, PAT will remain on.Quote:
Originally Posted by railer
No, booting at 200 doesnt set 2,2,2,x (or didnt on the P4P800 when i played) keep pat enabled whenever you can :)
These things rock :D Got back home last night, hopefully Persivore will mod the hell outta the P4C and 9500NP while I'm back :D Just to make things that little bit faster still ;)
I have a p4c800 (non e non deluxe) here and this bios doesn't work for me:
flashed first time with afudos 116 with /n /pbnc command. when the flash is finished, it asks to reboot and when I do, everything spins up but I get no visual.
I flashed again with the latest afudos. it reboots fine... once. then i have the same problem.
when i reset the bios, it boots but again, just once. when I select load defaults and continue, it reboots but same problem: no visual.
now I've done the same thing with the latest beta bios for the P4C800 (1021b_04) and this bios seems fine apart from 1 rather anoying thing: it shuts down instantly when I reboot be it by shorting the pins or CTRL+ALT+DEL.
I wanted to check the german asus ftp again for a different bios but I can't get into the "intel chipset" folder (all other folders work fine) and if I remember correctly, the second most recent bios is the 1019 wich probably will not support dothan...
both biosses also gave me random discolored bios screens
does anyone else get graphical glitches in 3dmode when pat is enabled running past a certain fsb?
my setup is the following, all stock aircooling for the time being:
760 on p4p800-se, bios 1009.003
2x 512 khx3200 bh5 @3.3v
pov gf6800gt with default ultra-heatsink
ocz powerstream 520w
so with PAT enabled i used to boot at 167 1:1 and upped the fsb in windows. i could go well past 220 that way, stable and all. just when i ran am3 - because it always was the first to show glitches - i get some artifacting like the gfx-card gets to little juice, black triangles and all. that is at stock clocks on the gfx-card. so i started dropping the fsb in 5mhz steps until it reached around 180 where it would almost stop. iirc 178 was the setting where it finally ran without artifacts.
back when i ran the same speeds (fsb, ram & overall clocks on the cpu) with my 9800xt, i could do fsbs of >220 mhz and would get no such errors.
so then i decided to step it up some and booted at 201 mhz fsb with PAT disabled or partially enabled. that way i could up the fsb to almost 290 mhz (mem 3:2 or 5:4 - didn't matter) without getting glitches on the geforce. only when i went even further, like 300 mhz or even 310ish on the fsb, i would get artifacting again - still with the gf at stock clocks.
then again, i could also boot at 251 mhz 1:1 with PAT enabled (since on the p4p800se you get pat back on when selecting ddr500 as ramspeed). that would work good for everything BUT graphical apps. i haven't tested how far i would need to drop the fsb to stop the artifacting, but my guess is that the border for that happening would be about the same 175-185 mhz fsb it used to be before with the 6800gt installed.
this seems rather strange to me, but i have heard of this from other folks around using current gen cards - not necissarily all nvidia. some x800's where in the pack iirc.
so if anybody has a workaround for that, i'd really appreciate that. from the looks of it, this seems to be somewhat nb-related, with slacker timings or something on the nb when PAT is disabled. even increasing the vagp didn't really do any good...
/edit
this phenomenon is indepedent of the cpu-clock. with PAT enabled i got it at 2800 mhz (200x14, 1:1), 2400 mhz (200x12, 1:1) or even 2000 mhz (200x10, 1:1) using the same fsb-speeds and voltages for all runs or at 2760 mhz (306x9, 5:4) with PAT partially enabled...
yes this strange phenomenon is known and seems to occur at fsb >200 even if agp is locked. it has been mentionned in the ct479 test on hardware.fr
Got my own Dothan system up and running! :) That's the main reason I also registered to this forum although I've been browsing this for ages.
Now, I've got P4C800-E and CT-479 with a Pentium M 730. Had to use Celeron D to update the BIOS since the new mobo didn't boot with the PM. Used the new LiveUpdate (version 6 point something) to update with the official 1022.003. Went okay and got the Vcore change option but no multis. Do I need to get the 1023 beta for that or what's up with this? Thanks in advance. :)
Edit: P.S. Is CPU-Z 1.29 showing wrong Vcore or why did it stuck during and after SuperPI 8M at 1.308V while I've set 1.450V in the BIOS? Or dropping of the Vcore is really an issue and the mod is needed... 8M was stable though at 12x200MHz and 1M at 12x204MHz (haven't tested higher yet).
yes, you should update to 1023, 'cause bios 1022.003 allows cpu ratio only for dothan 400. The new beta bios will allow access to cpu ratio for pm 533
cpu origin and packdate?
Thanks for the info!Quote:
Originally Posted by pvhk
Made in Malaysia and pack date is 04/14/2005. Malay should be good right? What does the pack date tell to a more experienced eye?
exactly as mine, same packdate
batch q511A462
i managed to reach 2600 (fsb 217) vcore=1.55 bios. It should be OK for you!
I think cpu from malay outcomes philippines ones from what i noted by reading various forums but i may be wrong...
Hey, that's nice! :) Is your board (P4C800-E Deluxe also?) modded? Mine is brand new and so not modded and I'm worried vdroop is going to be an issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by pvhk
Everything seems to be working a lot nicer after I booted at 12x201 instead of 12x200 and started to work with EIST and ClockGen and loosed the memory timings. This I guess is the way I should go since I've got a 875P mobo and 6600GT as gpu (PAT stays on as well as the AGP/PCI clocks, right?). SuperPI 1M already through at 10x250MHz (BIOS Vcore 1.5V, 2x512MB TCCD's at 2.5-3-3-8).
Going to change to 7000-Cu at some stage and post then results (maybe to the other thread) if something spectacular happens. :)
Yes i have a p4c800ed but i mounted on it a 725@2.4 (15x160 in bios) no mod
vcore 1.4125
My 730 is mounted on a p4p800se
BTW, is it normal to have dividers (3:2 and 5:4) available in the 1022.003 (has to be I suppose..) over 200MHz (maybe also at 200, haven't checked)? Booted at 12x201 and after a little EIST and ClockGen action everything worked nice when at 10x250 and memory 200@2-2-2-5.
Now I want to fill this space by thanking everybody who have contributed to this thread and also to this forum in general. Though not cheap (bye bye my sweet euros...) this is a great hobby and XS is in my opinion the best place to discuss it. :)
PAT is "Performance Mode" right?
Ethier way just turned that on by booting at 200.
Such a stable system, operating a full one Ghz above spec. Lovely.
Yep, got 1M through at about 2600 (stock ratio and max Vcore=1.6V). A bit more (like 2.62GHz) and the system booted... Well that's not bad, is it? Now a bit more testing with the cpu and then finding the limits of the mobo and mems. Have to also try 1023 and better cooling later. Thanks for all the help!Quote:
Originally Posted by pvhk
Switched to 1023 and BIOS shows multis between 6 and 28. I suppose though that cpu's multis are locked upwards from the stock, right? Well, now back to testing. Had to re-install XP already 'cause it didn't like my experiment at 2.6GHz:ish...
I dont have my Dothan sys but you can try this and see if it works. You need to disable Fastwrites in bios and in windows on GPU using RivaTuner. Actualy try first RivaTuner disable GPU Fastwrites then OS Fastwrites. It would decrease performance a bit but not much and should make oc'd system more stable. Would be intresting to know what gives more peformance -no PAT with FW or Pat on and no FW.Quote:
does anyone else get graphical glitches in 3dmode when pat is enabled running past a certain fsb?
my setup is the following, all stock aircooling for the time being:
760 on p4p800-se, bios 1009.003
2x 512 khx3200 bh5 @3.3v
pov gf6800gt with default ultra-heatsink
ocz powerstream 520w
so with PAT enabled i used to boot at 167 1:1 and upped the fsb in windows. i could go well past 220 that way, stable and all. just when i ran am3 - because it always was the first to show glitches - i get some artifacting like the gfx-card gets to little juice, black triangles and all. that is at stock clocks on the gfx-card. so i started dropping the fsb in 5mhz steps until it reached around 180 where it would almost stop. iirc 178 was the setting where it finally ran without artifacts.
back when i ran the same speeds (fsb, ram & overall clocks on the cpu) with my 9800xt, i could do fsbs of >220 mhz and would get no such errors.
so then i decided to step it up some and booted at 201 mhz fsb with PAT disabled or partially enabled. that way i could up the fsb to almost 290 mhz (mem 3:2 or 5:4 - didn't matter) without getting glitches on the geforce. only when i went even further, like 300 mhz or even 310ish on the fsb, i would get artifacting again - still with the gf at stock clocks.
then again, i could also boot at 251 mhz 1:1 with PAT enabled (since on the p4p800se you get pat back on when selecting ddr500 as ramspeed). that would work good for everything BUT graphical apps. i haven't tested how far i would need to drop the fsb to stop the artifacting, but my guess is that the border for that happening would be about the same 175-185 mhz fsb it used to be before with the 6800gt installed.
this seems rather strange to me, but i have heard of this from other folks around using current gen cards - not necissarily all nvidia. some x800's where in the pack iirc.
so if anybody has a workaround for that, i'd really appreciate that. from the looks of it, this seems to be somewhat nb-related, with slacker timings or something on the nb when PAT is disabled. even increasing the vagp didn't really do any good...
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this phenomenon is indepedent of the cpu-clock. with PAT enabled i got it at 2800 mhz (200x14, 1:1), 2400 mhz (200x12, 1:1) or even 2000 mhz (200x10, 1:1) using the same fsb-speeds and voltages for all runs or at 2760 mhz (306x9, 5:4) with PAT partially enabled...
Hope it works
Anyone have an answer for me?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lil Big Mec
Try reading the very first posts - has links to very latest BIOS versions
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...457#post861457
Does the wire-trick work on a P4P800SE.
I've tried it already with no luck :S
it should work, since it's a socket mod.Quote:
Originally Posted by vegeta
it's not mobo dependant
Thank you, but nowhere could I find where it confirms or denies the changes to the available features of the motherboard, like it does to the P4C series :) I just want to be able to use the raid and lan on my board :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jericho
Why don't you just try it, and report back with YOUR results...Quote:
Originally Posted by Lil Big Mec
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Check out this post: http://www.abxzone.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=320Quote:
Originally Posted by sky
I have a p4p800 pat hacked and it stops artifacting once I change performance mode to 01. Give it a try. Too bad it can't be changed permanently.
I hope I can upgrade to a dothan once I save up some money.
Could someone post good BIOS settings when using P4C800-E Deluxe with TCCD and lower than stock multi with FSB over 230 or something like that. I'm not yet familiar with the P4C's BIOS specialities so it would help a lot. So far I've noticed that PAT set to "Enabled" causes instability but when set to "Auto" everything (well, tested with SuperPI 8M/32M) is stable (PAT is also then though enabled).
The problem I'm having and the reason for asking is that everything seems very stable and works great when booting at 12x200 1:1 (2-2-2-5) but booting with 10x240 (1:1 or 5:4) even with mem at 2.5-3-3-8 is not possible. Other multis I've tested are 6x, 8x and 9x and it's the same deal with all of them. Booting at 10x201 etc. and using ClockGen works fine but I wouldn't like to use CG in everyday use...
I figured there could be some other settings like the PAT one that for some reason causes instability or even these no-boot-for-some-weird-reason-when-everything-should-work-out-fine issues.
With P4P800e-Dlx kompressor drive modified machII clocks were 3150Mhz max and 1M Pi 24.062.
Dothan 740 again
Hey guys :]
I got a P4C800-E dlx with my ct-479, and i want to order a CPU.
The difference between the 740 and the 730 is like a 10$.
since a 10$ isn't count for me, i would like to know wich CPU is better for OC.
I know most off these things is about "luck" but anyway i guess one of them is considerd to be a better one.
multi is not a problem with the new bios.. so what's your opinion? :D
several people got some nice result with a 740 cpu :)
for instance the post before yours.
i would go for the 740, higher speedbinned so could be a better die...
Since the difference is that small, I say go for the 740. Just, as you mentioned, be sure to get the new 1023 beta bios right away since booting at FSB of 200 or over is a must and 2.6GHz or over can already be too much for some chips. Hope you get a good one though. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Venom21
I would go for the 740. Higher MP
Those CPU's are lucky draws. I've seen 730,740 giving a can of whoopass and as bad OC'ers