bad link. not that the link itself is bad, just cant click through.Quote:
Originally Posted by Final8ty
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bad link. not that the link itself is bad, just cant click through.Quote:
Originally Posted by Final8ty
fixed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Russian
that's almost trivial compared to other issues. you have to learn to crawl before you can walk. for instance gpugrid, a DC project focused on curing diseases, attempted to make an ATi client based on opencl. we waited 2 months. the 5870 ended up performing as fast as an 8800gtx.Quote:
Originally Posted by Final8ty
almost 2 years before this nvidia gave away free cards to gpugrid and helped them develop their acemd molecular dynamics software on cuda. gpugrid is currently the fastest bio-med project on boinc.
f@h is in the same situation. they want to make one good opencl client that can run on all hardware but they have to wait on stable compilers which takes time. i know this all sounds like a huge tangent but other developers eager to use gpu's are probably running into the same problems.
I tried to tell people about DP vs SP and how DP is better but no one really cared. I have been told time and again DP is much effective than SP for meaning full resultsQuote:
Originally Posted by Final8ty
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ghlight=double
I thought DP was turned off on the Fermi (GF) cards and they are on for the Tesla cards. :shrug:
Its not off gf100's DP power if barred by nvidia mainly to protect the tesla market.
I think its a bad move because if we crunch with DP its just more effective and better....
Sorry to thread jack again guys, but this review here has an nVidia GTX 480 running the "Heaven 2.0" Benchmark. It is running on an ASUS ASUS P6T Deluxe V2 and is suffering from the PCI-E Gen 2.0 bug. (as you can quite clearly see on the screenshots the card IS running in Gen 1.1 mode.) This is not a power saving feature.
Hopefully a more recent BIOS update for the ASUS P6T Deluxe V2 will resolve this bug.
John
Asus is being sloppy. They should have dealt with this by now...Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnZS
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/...eratures_soundQuote:
GeForce GTX 480 Real World Temperatures & Sound
We have now spent some quality time with NVIDIA's Fermi in the form of its GeForce GTX 480 SLI and GTX 480 video card configurations. There has been a lot of talk about the sound and temperatures produced by these new GPUs. We look to put a fork into all the rumors and misunderstanding in the enthusiast community.
The Bottom LineQuote:
Originally Posted by onethreehill
The GTX 480 is hot.
The GTX 480 is loud.
Okay so can we move on now? :ROTF:
[H] is a poor site, too much anger IMHO.Quote:
Originally Posted by onethreehill
When I saw it, I thought it was just an April's Fools joke... lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Russian
are there any 470 sli reviews out there?
wha ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Olivon
I have been looking myself...if you find one please post a link.Quote:
Originally Posted by malik22
You are confusing temperature with heat. They are related but aren´t the same. A drop of water can be at 90ºC but it will contain less heat (energy) than a gallon of water at 70ºC. There are components in a motherboard that can achieve high temps without releasing a lot of heat into the case. That´s the problem with the GTX480, it is transfering heat to other components despite the "cooler" temperature in comparison with the HD4870.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle
Case temps are clearly going to be higher with an exposed bbq grill like that. Wouldn't expected the 470 to push too much into the case though. Unless it has some air exiting internally
GTX 480 vs. HD 5850 CrossFireX
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=24061&page=1
That's what makes it awesome. So many petulant fanboys over there. They never stop taking the bait.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olivon
It seems to me that 4x AA is the sweet spot for GTX 480 after reading several reviews, i wonder why is that....
So true. They go out of their way to make Nvidia look bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olivon
Who needs to go out of their way to do that?Quote:
Originally Posted by RSC
All I know is I'm waiting for the respin that unlocks the whole chip.
Best. Review. Ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by trinibwoy
Well done xbitlabs! The first of a kind for gtx480s.
Metro on nvidia = fail.
To be fair, its because Metro=Fail. Atleast in its graphics engine.Quote:
Originally Posted by damha
HD 5870 Crossfire CPU Scaling Performance Part II
http://www.legionhardware.com/articl..._part_2,1.html
http://i.tpucdn.com/img/10-04-08/27b_thm.jpg http://i.tpucdn.com/img/10-04-08/27a_thm.png
http://www.techpowerup.com/119615/Ge...-way_SLI_.htmlQuote:
GTX 480 Supports 4-way SLI?
Soon after EVGA laid its hands on stocks of GeForce GTX 480 graphics cards, it claims from an internal test that 4-way SLI is possible on the reference design GTX 480 graphics cards. The GTX 480 was advertised to work with up to two more of its kind in 3-way SLI, in NVIDIA's presentations to the press. EVGA's feat of running four GTX 480 cards was possible on its X58 Classified 4-way SLI motherboard, which has room for four graphics cards, and a special SLI bridge that connects to four NVIDIA graphics cards with two SLI interconnect bridges each. EVGA released a special-edition GeForce GTX 285 4-way SLI ready graphics card to go with the motherboard.
The EVGA X58 Classified 4-way SLI isn't the only motherboard to support 4-way SLI, the recently released EVGA Classified SR2 also ships with the special SLI bridge. No other motherboard vendor released a 4-way bridge, yet. EVGA demonstrated the 4-way SLI setup with a run of Unigine Heaven, although it did not give away any performance numbers.......
I'm surprised they didn't use their watercooled onesQuote:
Originally Posted by onethreehill
so if a 480 is good for 3xSLI, how does 4x work? is the motherboard making a software link?
the classified has some nvidia rebranded (somehow) magic included in the NF200Quote:
Originally Posted by Manicdan
NVIDIA GTX 480 SLI Review
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/N...e_GTX_480_SLI/
Others who might be mainly interested in this card for Flight Simulator X (FSX) like myself.
FSX comment
A user here comments:
"I cant say for the 480 but I installed my 470 last night. I played a few hours of FSX with it and I like it very much. I've seen a much better difference going from the GTX275 to the GTX470 than when I went from a 8800GT to the GTX275. No huge increase in framerate, (I would say about 10% above the GTX275) but much smoother without any stuttering. Need to do lots more testing tough".
It's sounding very promising, soon as i get my 480 i'll give some feedback of my own.
GTX 470 SLI Review
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...li-review.html
^^^
Maybe just me, but that smelt a bit like badly disguised Nv damage control...
Have to agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by stinkas
One has to believe that with 6 months of driver development time the picture could be completely different. Min framerates seems to be the only shining light.
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Originally Posted by stinkas
I must have missed something then.....
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However, the facts are quite clear: in general, ATI’s cards offer better multi GPU scaling than anything NVIDIA can currently offer.
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ATI threw a live hand grenade into the SLI party by posting performance increases that were simply jaw-dropping in nearly every respect.
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Unfortunately, that didn’t happen so as it stands we feel that spending $700 for two GTX 470 cards is a hard sell when you can buy a similarly performing solution from ATI for more than $100 less.
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It is quite evident that while the GTX 470 is a clear winner against a single HD 5850, SLI is currently struggling to mirror the downright amazing scaling that Crossfire offers.
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but the HD 5850 in Crossfire is simply too close for comfort in most cases.
I was wondering wtf these guys are talking about. They obviously didn't read the article.
Nvm, that doesn't make any sense. :D
GTX 480 (825/1100 MHZ) vs. HD 5870 (975/1300 MHz), Overclocked Performance Analysis, Part 2
http://alienbabeltech.com/main/?p=16997
article is huge bogus first nvidias sli scaling is bad next min is more important so we should actually consider 470 sli then power cons kicks in and again we are back to 5850 :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by Trigger5521
As stated:Quote:
Originally Posted by eric66
ATI's scaling is excellent in the AVERAGE framerates. NVIDIA's scaling is merely OK for average framerates.
ATI's scaling isn't that great for MINIMUM framerates. Yes, the overall scaling graph makes it look amazing but that's because of some incredible scaling in Far Cry 2 and BF:BC2. Other games are merely so so or take a minimum framerate hit when going to Crossfire. NVIDIA's scaling is quite good for minimums but the vast majority of its lead here is due to the GTX 470's single card minimum framerate lead.
There are always pros and cons to every product. Simple as that.
I don't want to have to dissect partitions of your posts to understand them every time. How about using some punctuation marks?Quote:
Originally Posted by eric66
Fortunately, humans have well developed brains that are capable of sorting out the various nuances. It doesn't need to be black and white.Quote:
Originally Posted by eric66
http://techreport.com/discussions.x/18774Quote:
A note on GeForce GTX 480 noise levels
Now that GeForce GTX 400-series graphics cards are out in the wild, although in limited numbers, I should say something quickly about the main issues for which these cards, and especially the GTX 480, have gained a reputation: power, noise, and heat. I talked about this some on the latest podcast, but I don't think I communicated it all that well in the context of our GeForce GTX 480 and 470 review.
I feel like the GTX 480 is getting a bit of a bad rap.......
^^^
Now that's how PR damage control is supposed to be done.
Has Nvidia fixed the power/heat issue with dual monitors yet? >90C at idle is a no go for me...
Great review! But how can a HD 5970 perform worse than the 5850 CFX? Like this and this :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by SKYMTL
Oh, as you've benched using FRAPS, maybe you could post some charts showing framerate fluctuation among cards tested during tests, mainly the GTX 470 SLI and HD 5850 CFX. That would be great!
Off-topic: Not big deal but I'm think there's a typo in Test System & Setup
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate N x64 SP1
For the most part, most reviews point to 5850CF being slightly faster than the 5970.Quote:
Originally Posted by japamd
lol wutQuote:
Originally Posted by tajoh111
Epic ATI crossfire scaling :D
Yes! HardwareCanucks puts out some of the best reviews around and that would take them up a notch. Since they're FRAPS fiends anyway it should be trivial to capture and graph the framerate over time.Quote:
Originally Posted by japamd
http://www.anandtech.com/show/2877/12Quote:
Originally Posted by eric66
Its never slower, but it usually the same speed. But occasionally its a tiny bit faster.
Three Overclocked HD 5870s vs GTX 480
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...2362685,00.asp
I want to see Quad CF/4 way 5870 "stock" vs Tri GTX 480 "stock"
Any review did that and very interesting results thanks OTH specially the gigabyte card.
impressive graphs to say at least :ROTF: btw fermi really has huge problems with high res pretty much dies at 2560Quote:
Originally Posted by onethreehill
A few have shown it, but not the most AFAIK.Quote:
Originally Posted by tajoh111
Anyway, look at these charts from hardwarecanucks review:
In BF BC2, 5850 CFX is 10.39% ahead of 5970.
http://images.hardwarecanucks.com/im...470_SLI-39.jpg
In Dirt2, 5850 CFX is 19.20% ahead of 5970.
http://images.hardwarecanucks.com/im...470_SLI-46.jpg
IMHO, that's very weird. :(
Would someone know this site ? The article is really interesting but I wonder if the site is reliable.Quote:
Originally Posted by onethreehill
I don't know how they test it but my 5970 at stock scores 60fps average using FRAPS when I play at max settings 4xAA 16xAF @2560x1600.Quote:
Originally Posted by japamd
Yeah without context, comparisons are pointless given the huge number of variables in testing.Quote:
Originally Posted by iTravis
QFT, I did notice the framerates are inconsistent for different maps in BC2, considering the game is still buggy and need to be fixed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chickenfeed
The results from that review looks flawed for the HD5870, they pushed memory oc too hard IMO and memory EDC seems to be holding back performance badly.Quote:
Originally Posted by overclock
For some reason, the HD 5970 really suffers in DX11 games. I know that the HD 5850 CF and HD 5870 CF had some good increases through the 1.0 Profile and post 10.1 drivers but I did not see any difference with the HD 5970.
ASUS GTX 470 Fermi Review
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/ASUS/GeFor...ard1_small.jpg
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/A...Force_GTX_470/
This is the first time I am seeing thisQuote:
Originally Posted by onethreehill
http://i.imgur.com/9QSNe.jpg
Where is the tessellation advantage?
Memory advantage:Quote:
Originally Posted by damha
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(The latter, however, pulls ahead on the 2,560-by-1,600 version for the same reason as before; it has a bigger frame buffer than even the Nvidia card.)
I saw that, still didn't explain it.
I think I figured it out: they are running v1.0 of the demo. That's silly.
"Interesting" results to say the least. Even with the v1.0 of the benchmark, I don't think I ever saw results that low at 2560 x 1600 without AA enabled. :S
They had two sets of runs, DX10 and DX11. Apparently thats the DX11 run. DX10 run was at about 20FPS. In your tests you had a much faster CPU clock.Quote:
Originally Posted by SKYMTL
ZOTAC GTX 470 - tested in SLI and compared to HD 5870 CFX
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=24263
GTX 480 Tested in 3 Way SLI and compared to HD 5870 Triple CFX
http://www.hardware.info/nl-NL/artic...GTX_480_test/1
Thanks Adrian :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by onethreehill
CPU clocks have very little impact at 2560 x 1600. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by damha
You might be surprised to know that is not always true, so I am counting on this one being the oddball.Quote:
Originally Posted by SKYMTL
To the tune of ~100% difference in framerates? I have seen MAYBE a 10% change at high resolutions in even CPU bound games like Dragon Age and Left 4 Dead @ 2560. :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by damha
I don't usually question results but those are on the extreme side...
so overclocked but noisy gtx 470 =< gtx 480 >= overclocked 5870
sounds (not literally) like a good place for the gtx 470 to be
too bad every review site is dropping the ball and not comparing these things directly? I guess you have to give them time to figure out how to overclock something.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY8up...cc&feature=sub
Running EVGA's GTX 480 SC's in Quad SLi through a Heaven 2.0 Tessellation EXTREME benchmark.
1500W peak usage! :rofl:
Sorry for the irrelevance but I need to ask you guys something. I got a really cheap 480 deal from Ebay, but I'm not sure if my PSU is able to handle GTX 480.
It's a FSP Epsilon 80plus 700W and has 4 12V rails of 18amps each, do you think that will be enough ?
does this look like the tech support forum to you
your psu has a max amps at 12V rating, different from what you just said. if the max number accommodates what the video card and the rest of your system needs at max (maybe 30), you can use it.
the manufacturer of the card you just bought tells you as much. for instance:
Requirements
Minimum of a 550 Watt power supply.
(Minimum recommended power supply with +12 Volt current rating of 38 Amps.)
ASUS GeForce GTX 470 ENGTX470 Review
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1287/1/
Quote:
Originally Posted by bamtan2
yep, sorry. I had to bid quickly to get the deal and I was looking for a quick answer. the mods can delete these posts if they wish :yepp:
http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/g...itt_einleitung
Nice roundup of DX11 SDK tests.
some before and after temps 2 hours gaming with crysis wars, with EK waterblock, something i just noticed was the idle clocks... core 50.5 Mhz? memory 67.5 Mhz?
nice to save some power ;) this is on 197.44 drivers
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/3728/idle.jpghttp://img52.imageshack.us/img52/1363/load2hrs.jpg
MSI GTX 480 vs XFX HD 5870 XXX in 22 Benchmarks
http://www.techsweden.org/recension/...cken-benchmar/
Translated
http://translate.googleusercontent.c...8AK1yJT9QM-w#6
Do you mind to post the max temperature instead of current temperature just after quitting the game? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by DosDuoNo
At least here temperatures drops real fast after exiting a game, not sure if that's the case with GTX 400 series.
Oh boy, it has been a month allready since Fermi launched? Well then, time to unveil our GIGABYTE GTX 470 review :D
Asus ENGTX-470 Voltage Tweak Edition
http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=1852
http://www.bjorn3d.com/Material/revi...ead_1920AA.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by onethreehill
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforc...ay-sli-review/Quote:
GeForce GTX 480 2 and 3 way SLI performance scaling
We look at single card performance, dual-card performance and also triple (3-way) SLI performance to see how well these puppies will scale. The article will first cover SLI performance among the new GTX 480 in several configurations and games, and then we'll check a little 2-way Multi-GPU gaming in a handsome multi-GPU slaughter-fest article in the ATI versus NVIDIA kind of way to see who and what scales the best.
ASUS GeForce GTX 480
http://www.pureoverclock.com/article968.html
Wow, the GTX 470 sells for $330 and the 480 for $470 here in Turkey :eek:
4-way SLI GeForce GTX 480 Test
http://www.hardware.info/nl-NL/artic...GTX_480_test/1
470 usd?Quote:
Originally Posted by annihilat0r
yep.
Any linkage? Do they ship EU-wide?!Quote:
Originally Posted by annihilat0r
Nope they don't. Unfortunately the prices rose to $345 and 489 respectively :( the whole day those prices fluctuated, I don't know what the hell, but I called the store to see if the numbers were correct and they said yes, and they had the cards in stock.
Damnit. Cheapest you can get a card here is for around 520€ from retailers that actually have some cards in stock...
Thanks anyway. :)
My personal review:
http://www.hardwareluxx.de/community...3-post168.html
POV GTX 480
3D Mark Vantage Performance und Unigine Heaven 2.0 @ 960/1921/2225 1.200v
http://www.abload.de/thumb/vantage96019202225xe6a.jpg http://www.abload.de/thumb/heaven96019202225ieov.jpg
Under water ...
Full review
Olli ;)
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/vid...gf-gtx400.htmlQuote:
Gigabyte GTX 480 and GTX 470: DirectX 11 Battlefield
After several delays the new generation of powerful Nvidia graphics cards has finally seen the light of day and now the graphics giants can finally compete on equal terms. Let’s find out how good the praised Fermi architecture really is with the help of GeForce GTX 480 and GTX 470 based products from Gigabyte.
It's loud. How loud you ask?...Quote:
Originally Posted by onethreehill
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V13ZGIZgYY
Man that review is weird. The charts and results are extremely in favour of the gtx 480, however the writing seems like its trying to say the opposite.Quote:
Originally Posted by onethreehill
"The GeForce GTX 480 is indeed the fastest single-GPU graphics card, being an average 28-33% faster than the ex-leader Radeon HD 5870. In some games, the GF100 GPU enjoys a 50% and larger advantage over the RV870. However, the Nvidia GeForce GTX 480 comes from a higher price category, so the difference in performance should not be wondered at."
I think the 100 dollar price difference is well worth it if we ignore power, since your getting more than a 25% performance improvement on average meaning the gtx 480 is greater bang for your buck, if just barely.
"If we don’t separate gaming graphics cards into single- and multi-GPU ones, the Radeon HD 5970 still remains the king of the hill. The GeForce GTX 480 cannot match it, especially at 2560x1600. Here are the numbers: the GeForce GTX 480 is an average 3% slower at 1600x900, 9% slower at 1920x1080 and as much as 22% slower at 2560x1600."
It strange they don't make the same price comparison with the 5970 really. When you consider most people game on 1920*1080 monitors and the 9% sacrifice seems pretty small when you consider you save a hundred dollars(more so because even they admit the 5870 cost more than 599) and you don't need to deal with dual card problems.
It looks like the gtx 480 is the best card in that review in terms of bang for your buck and performance.
Yeah right tajoh111, Fermi's performance are quite impressive on this one :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by onethreehill