Nice, that's good performance:up:
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How would you put nozzles on the GTX? Obviously you can't just put one in the barbs as they're on the edges of the IHS. I take it you would have to create a mid chamber, but even then I don't think it would yield good results due to the pin matrix only flowing one way. Interesting though. :up:
I don't have a GTX, but I did play around with an old MCW-60 base. I think they are talking more of flow spreaders...something that would spread the flow across more pins.
I machined a top for my old mcw-60 and used 9/16-18 barbs which are quite a bit larger than G1/4, put them in the corner, and reduced the clearance between the pins and the top. The block even though it had the larger old MCW-60 pins performed just as well as my fuzion without nozzles.
I think an improvement on the GTX might be to cut channels into the top, and maybe some sort of flow spreader that forces more water to more evenly enter the pin matrix.
LMAO....
Martin... almost tempted to mail you the supreme to see if you can tweek the accelerators, a PA160, and my RD-30 when you start my little project for me.
Only problem is, im worried you'ld have too much fun with a 260 dollar pump setup, a block which you have all the tools to tweek, and not show up on XS for the next few months. :rofl:
Anyhow, my final calculations are about 4-5C less temps then the GTX on a RD-30 @ 21V. I think thats the sweet spot right now. Need more tuning!!!! RAWR. You definitely need to tune the pump for this block .
Still need to see how the performance chart for dual DDC-3.2 would scale up to an RD-30. If it can do what an RD-30 can do @ 21V, i may retire her.
Wow, I'm beginning to think this block really likes alot of pump, that's a really good gain over the GTX.
No worries here, but I'd rather you do the thermal testing/tweaking anyhow. I get bored easily doing thermal tests. I started doing thermal testing on the Fuzion nozzles and still working on the first one..:rolleyes:
I did contact Iwaki about doing some more extensive testing on the RD series pumps, I'd like to gather more information on pump curves at various voltages and the heat dump associated to that. So I may end up doing some Iwaki testing anyhow, we'll see...:up:
well heres what i intially realized..
Heres keeping the ambients at 70C.
@18V [the lowest my S150-24 will go] the block was slightly better then the GTX ~ 2-3C better
@19V around ~1-2C <--- dont know why it dropped I might retest this
@20V gave me ~2-3
@21V gave me 4-5C
@22V+ temps started to rise :shrug:
Meaning it started getting worse. @ the max setting the tubing from rad -> cpu almost felt like it was going to explode. :rofl:
i tested loaded temps for each voltage for around 5 min on prime small fft's. Voltage after 24V i didnt take very long, i was kinda worried. My meanwell max is around 26V according to my cheapo radioshack multimeter. And low is 18. i wish it went lower. :T
Incase you guys are wondering about performance, my system isnt breaking 50C loaded across all 4 cores @ 1.456 Vcore. :)
I want to drop nozzles on the GTX and see how it will perform. Anyhow recomend me a nozzle size for it? I dont think the Quad nozzle will work on the gtx, so i was thinking either the 4 or 4.5mm nozzle? Pump on this system will be a DDC 3.2 /w oclab top.
That's good stuff. I'm going to have to take another look at the RD30 curves. I think Iwaki has some on their site at 24V, and Alex ran one at 18V, I could interpolate at 21V curve and compare it to dual DDCs.
Looks like you've found the sweet spot, great work:up:
I would drop a regular nozzle in the GTX, I think we need something a little differen, like a half moon that would push the flow into the corners more.
Thanks for the results, NaeKuh... :)
Eddy, what is the status on the availability of the new 775 hold down plate? I want to buy a block, but I want to wait until the new plate is available.
Hi!
If there weren't these holidays we would have already made them.
Right after new year, all companies start to work 7th.
And we will push hard to have them made asap. (polishing and chroming).
Don't worry I am also desperate to make them asap.
Eddy I was wondering how far u are on the acrylic version. This since u said end november it would be avalible in about 10 days.
I dont wanna look impatient and I know u do ur best to get the job done but I was just wondering couse else I would have to order the "normal" acetal one.;)
BTW is this block suitable for in 1 setup with 8800GTS and 4x OCZ FlexXLC??
or will it proform bad becouse of this?
as much as i love this block, its not the best block in multi block loops.
The restriction on it is a good amount. Remember my picture The pathway of water to slow is the middle accelerators, then it mashes on the thin base plate. The water is thinn'd out to fit under the acceletors and off the side to collect.
Super restrictive but good amount of turbulance...
multi block, i think the d-tek will still win. Expecially since it can get pretty close to performance on this EK. And have a multi role as being non restrictive, and drop in accelerators.
Time for a bump. EK just updated his webshop.
Supreme now with PLEXI!
http://ekwaterblocks.com/shop/produc...roducts_id=229
Now waiting for new Supreme LGA bracket and Supreme LGA blackplate.
Hi!
LGA 775 mounting plate just got in.
For the ones that have problems with the mounting send me e-mail and we will send them.
info(at)ekwaterblocks.com
eddy... is there anyway you can offer just the top?
i kinda figured it maybe easier to see if the jets get clogged or not easier with the clear top. Im getting flash backs from my old storm days when i would have to take that thing apart every 4-6 months just to see if that mystery jelly was clogging my jets.
Just installed my Supreme, and got -10C in small FFT load (had a Storm rev.2), yay, thnx Eddy ;)
Does anyone know if nikhsub1 or martinm210 has received a block for testing yet? I think that most of us here would trust their testing methods and data.
Until I see data from some independents such as these two I will continue to use my FuZion.
I'm seeing an idle temp of 21/24/21/27 not sure on ambient, but they're low.
I'm not using the proper mounting hardware, I'm getting a different backplate that can take M4 sizes screws to use the mounting hardware provided.
I already had a backplate with longer M4 screws (tapped it myself, was M3 originally)
No problem with the EK springs here, got them pretty much compressed at least halfway, the pressure the cpu must be going through *ouch* :D
I used some old, but great Scythe backplate, but used the screws from the Storm, tightened it down as much as I could.
About fuzion-supreme comparison, I think they are almost the same in performance, just guessing (that includes bowed, nozzled fuzion), but since Eddy's from Slo, it was much cheaper for me to get a Supreme, now I'm retweaking my system and having lots of fun with lower temps :D (got what I expected, and getting roughly -10C in Small FFT load with any settings I tried)
LOL ANDY!!! your a XS person.. you cant say 1C isnt worth it! :rofl: :yepp:
also martin is working on something special right now. Something that we concieved and may allow someone whose on water to tune there water temps within a delta range of 4-8C. :T
But i'll leave it to him to show you guys what it is. :D
So the block now for sale at Petras, does it come with the new plate?
Eddy are u going to release tops as separate parts?
A backplate would be also a very nice addition... ;)
Plus can u put a photo of the 775 plate on your site?
This week i try to mount new kit by Ek , i had EK fullcover GTX and D_tek fuzion
http://photodorp.com/out.php/t38_DSCN0992.jpghttp://photodorp.com/out.php/t37_DSCN0991.jpghttp://photodorp.com/out.php/t43_DSCN1001.jpg
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I think the mounting plate is somewhere in this topic already, got it: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=545
ok it's not a photo but you get the idea :D
No problem man, should be released already, if I'm not mistaking :)
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Now for some EK backplates.
Well there's always Cooler Master backplates... cost me 4,95 euro INCLUDING shipping lol... Stainless Steel and all... can't beat that price eh? ;)
Stand Alone Acrylic Plexi Top and the new 775 mounting plate up on EK webshop. :)
Acrylic Plexi Top
New 775 mounting plate
about time! :)
Perhaps there'll be an option to buy the block with the acrylic top, rather than just separately?...
They are one step ahead of you :)
Supreme w/ Acrylic Plexi Top
Any idea when we will be able to get the block and new plate from a store here in the states?
New EK LGA775 Backplate listed:
http://ekwaterblocks.com/shop/produc...roducts_id=232
:)
Not as ornate as I expected from Eddie, but the full-size rubber 'pillow' sure adds some security...
Kudos to EK for releasing the back plate. This guy surely earns his money... :clap:
New mounting plate, plexi top and EK backplate arrived today.
Big thx to Eddy for his service and help and for shipping it so fast. :up:
http://www.abload.de/img/supplexi1x40.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/supplexi21qe.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/sup7751p5.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/ekbackplateiun.jpg
How stiff is the back plate?
Is it aluminum or steel?
Edit: Asked Eddie, it's steel.
Yep, 2mm thick steel.
dayam i want a clear top
i can go without the backplate because i have enough swiftech/thermalright/scythe backplates.
But yeah, the clear top will help you visual see if your jets are clogged or not.
Do i see acrylic tops? Where are the acrylic haters...? :p:
Thanks for the pics Jupiler... :)
I just got my EK Supreme with the black Delrin top today.
I'm going to send it off to Martinm210 for testing so he can include it in his flow rate tool. :)
And while I'm waiting, I'll order a clear Acrylic top for it, the 775 Backplate, and some of the soon-to-be-released EK mosfet backplates.
Some pics of the block with the new mounting plate and plexi top, and 1 pic with delrin top.
http://www.abload.de/img/supreme4o13.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/supreme6l21.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/supreme5cwq.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/supreme820q.jpg
When I saw the drawings of that plate I had my doubts about its beauty. Now I'v seen those pics there's no doubt here anymore: Looks great! :up:
And even if it didn't look so great, my order is aready on its way to me. :D (including the Acrylic Top and a backplate)
The acrylic top is a looker! :up:
Wow that is one hot block
It looks lovely with both acrylic and delrin top!
I noted that the acrylic top has holes in the side for LEDs.. care to take any action shots of that? :)
Sure.
Ledholes are about 2mm.
http://www.abload.de/img/ledholes1mhl.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/ledholes4m28.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/ledholes2t9i.jpg
quick question..
the new mounting stuff for s775 will/ is it included with newer shipments of the ek supreme and if yes any way to tell the difference between old and new without having access to the packaging (i.e. any way to find out if you get it or not if you order online?).
If you buy the Supreme from the EK store, the Supreme comes with the Universal plate by default.
I made a request on my order to substitute the LGA 775 plate for the Universal plate, and managed to get it that way.
But by default, the LGA775 plate and the backplate are seperate items.
Hi!
The free 775 mounting plates were for the first buyers of the block.
Because we did not realize sooner the problems with some boards.
If you order in our webshop we could supply you the block with only 775 mounting plate.
That clear top looks sharp!
Also FYI, I sent my EK Supreme block out this morning to Martinm210 so he can perform his flow rate and pressure drop testing on it.
We should have some results from that in about a week or so. :)
wow the plexi top looks sexy
oh, good on ya.
The only thing I didn't have to send was an EK SB block..
Mine arrived this morning.
First thing is the packageing. Its a far cry from the white cardboard box I got with my FC18/19 in 2006. I forgot to order the 775 mount and backplate, but this will surfice until I can afford a 9-series Quad.
Now, some picceys..:
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...1/DSCF2813.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...1/DSCF2815.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...1/DSCF2818.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...1/DSCF2820.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...1/DSCF2821.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...1/DSCF2823.jpg
Its going on my DKP35-T2RS cooling an e2200 with 10/8mm tubing.
Tis' awesome.
how come i dont get those nice graphic box...?
Becuase I'm awesome.