Well my PC is mashed, keep getting random BSOD, alot of times from a cold boot Vista won't load properly and i have to restart...i honsetly don't know what the issue is, bios/hardware or drivers....no idea at this stage.
Sigh.
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Well my PC is mashed, keep getting random BSOD, alot of times from a cold boot Vista won't load properly and i have to restart...i honsetly don't know what the issue is, bios/hardware or drivers....no idea at this stage.
Sigh.
I had a week of misery with the "other" X38 board, the Asus flavor. I finally RMA'd it. I don't think the x38 and more importantly the BIOSes are ready for prime time. I'm almost thinking of picking up the IP35 Pro as a hold over until there's really a reason to need PCI-E 2.0. I have the EVGA 680i board now and I'm sick of the crappy nVidia drivers, in particular the SATA drivers.
What do you guys think? Are you happy with your DQ6s?
before you switch, the gigabyte board has its quirks too, every board does, the question is will those quirks bother you??? problems i have found on this board....
- memory bandwidth is low compared to the asus maximus board......
- vcore once over 1.5 you have to have either 1.55 or 1.6 no in between, just doesnt stay between those values when in load, but none the less i use 1.6v for my 24/7 vcore and temps are good, cpu's are very hard to mess up.
- 4:5 memory divider sometimes boots, sometimes doesnt, only F3 bios boots, but memory bandwidth with that bios is LOW!
- OCCT issue, present on this board and the maximus, now this is only with vista x64, i havnt tried any other OS to confirm this isnt OS related....
Good luck. :up:
Hi all.
Good thread.
Ive had the X38-DQ6 for about 6 weeks now, and i think im starting to somewhat figure it out.
I've noticed that,- especially with the F3 bios, the most important bios-setting in terms of stability and wether youll be able to boot the bios successfully or not, is the TrD. Ive found that, when overclocking FSB beyond 400mhz, this setting has to be set to 8, irregardless of memory-overclock in general. Anything less, and the bios will reset itself on next reboot.
I get the feeling the board is having trouble correctly identifying my ram. Sounds to me like alot of people are seeing this problem. My system for example, is not stable on default optimized bios settings, because it tries running memory at 1066 with a TrD below 8.
The options for robust graphics and performance can both be set to the highest setting with no decrease in stability as far as i can tell. This is all with F3 bios.
I think I've found a sweetspot for my system, wich is a G0 E6750 and Crucial Ballistix 8500.
475*8, and memory at 1:1. System is Orthos stable for 24 hours at 4-4-4-4.
This is aircooled with Scythe Ninja revB with a SilenX 120mm 122CFM fan. vcore at 1.58, memory at 2.28. I only up NB at the lowest setting and keep the other voltages on standard.
Has anyone been able to run this stable at 4ghz or above with the E6750 ? It seems im hitting a wall. No matter the vcore i just wont be stable at 4ghz and above. Any ideas welcome.
Some feedback to other users. Ive seen a few people getting anxious about their 3ghz cpu "only" beeing 2ghz in the OS. This is due to speedstep. It will jump up to 3ghz as soon as theres sufficient load. Ofcourse, you can just disable the speedstep feature in bios.
hello i'am new o/cer and i have some questions.
I have gigabyte dq6-x38 q6600(g0) with ultra extreme 120 and 4gb ram trascent at 800Mhz.
I have.
DDR2 +0.2
PCI-E +0.2
FSB +0.15
CPU 1.38125
My problem is that i can't found the right voltages to make my system stable on 3.4Ghz. I run orthos and after 5 or 6 minutes system crash. I don not have problem with temps, in idle is 40-43 and load 60-62.
1.Can anyone with this system tell me the right settings on bios?
2.Witch bios is the best for my mobo?
3.Is better to have multiplier to 8 or 9?
4.Witch of the following voltages is the most important to improve my fsb?
Thanks!
Well , these setting should work fine
set memory timing manually
select the right strap of your memory A,B,C,or D
If you dont OC your memory , just leave the DDR2 volt to Auto
set the TrD to 10
set the PCI-E to maximum +35
set CPU to 1.40
leave the rest of volts to Auto
Can someone plz tell me which value in picture are the "TrD" value
Think I found it, "Static tRead Value".
Now I can use "extreme" as performance enhance, only standard before.
Changed it from 5 to 8.
Static tRead Value
Wow thanks for the tip ,I picked up over 1000 mb/s in my Memory Read /Writes and copy and allso lost 1.0 ns latency according to Everest running extreme performance mode .
At last pple are starting to actually give Overclocking advice in this thread,much appreciated .
We cover a wide range of topics related to the mobo in this thread.
How much is the vdrop? isn't there any option in the bios that stops vdrop like asus?
For your information, these o/c tips have already been provided for your and everyone's benefit.
Maybe you should read the whole thread start to finish friend.
I know it's becoming a looooong thread, but there's good info to be found and plenty of bios settings info for just about all config's.
OK, so i got my ram to be OCCT stable!!!!!!!!!! my final specs are in my sig!!
Does anyone have problem with the X38-DQ6 ...with the sound card...It seems that the board generate electrical noise though all audio ports it can be heard only on the headphones but is annoying ...can anyone tell me what tot do to remove that noise?I have:
Q6600@3.2 ghz 2x1gb mushkin 8500(996535) enermax liberty ELT500AWT-DXX and 8800gts(768) Gainward is there anything that could make the noise except the Mainboard pleae help I like to watch movies with the headphones thank
Nice to hear you persisted on OCCT RAM, so it seems stable on Vista64 too
Great news, OCCT in RAM mode should be really the way to go for people before claiming stability. It is not unreal test like TAT, as errors in OCCT RAM, soon or later will hang your games/encoding software...
And very nice OC by the way, but a bit high on the vcore. What are your temperatures on Small FFT?
Yeah bro, its a relief getting my ram to pass that test i gotta say, the vcore is ok with me, the temps are....first 2 cores idle at 40c the other 2 are at 34.....loads the first 2 are 65-70c the other 2 are 60-65...........overall i am much more pleased with the gigabyte board, much more than the maximus formula.
What is that ?
Ram or CPU overclocking ? ;)
Cos i've got SuperPI 32M @ 3:4 Ram and as i said F5H rullez all the way on my water cooled Q6600 :cool:
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/2...4206fm9.th.jpg
LOL.........funny guy..........i wasnt trying to show off, and if i wanted to use 2gb's i would have kept my D9s which did 650 stable.......this is my main system im not trying to break any records....and 3.8ghz for a q6600 on air is damn good.....oh and superpi is not a stability test, not even close, id like to see you pass occt ram test for a couple of hours before you start bragging about your OC.
I wasnt saying you use micron, i was saying i had microns wich could reach those speeds, but i need 4gb's of ram, 2gb is not enough for me, so i dont mind 100mhz less for more ram, 100mhz really doesnt make much of a difference, its really your FSB wich could give you higher memory performance...
So no new bios then?....guess Gigabyte have given up and realised no bios can fix the inherent issues with the X38 boards.
Come on Richard, I'm still using F3, and hoping a new one with some huge differences will come soon!!!
I've lost faith my friend.
is there any problem on my vga card if i have the pci-e to +0.35 24/7?
guys if you are running a quad and fighting with high FSB stability boot the machine with Static tRead Value =9 (you can try even looser but i suggest that)
i tested both X38-DQ6 F6B bios and P35T-DQ6 with latest beta bios F5 something and with that setting i can boot and bench at 450MHz FSB
that bios value relates to Performance level you see in memset i'm pretty sure
and in windows you can actually tighten it to improve your 2D/3D performance but somehow it doesn't like booting with it straight from the bios :)
thanks dinos22 for that tip...does the X38 "T" version work the exact same way as the DDR2 version?
Realtek 889A codec drivers, version 1.82:
http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/...&GetDown=false
Alright, a quick note, i gained 150 points in 3dmark 06 by connecting the molex pci-e connector on the top right of the board, i would suggest everyone to connect it, wont hurt to get a bit more performance.
Hey, is there any hard mod for this board - X38-DQ6? I dont like vdrop, its pretty much and 1.6v for CPU is realy low, after it straight +0.05v is not so good! :mad:
With eVGA 680i board I could achive 3825Mzh Orthos stable with only 1.472v under prime load, but looks like not with this board, at least not in the beginning :down:
can you let us know what your best OC is with the gigabyte board and how it compares to evga 680i
Team.AU has told Gigabyte that droop and drop need to be addressed and we all get that sort of drop as well. I've tested P35-DS3P and P35T-DQ6 which had very little drop/droop to almost none........ i'm talking 1.45v set in bios idle load 1.44 in windows or 1.43 that's it
these new ones are not that good unfortunately :(
Hmm, first impression of GigaByte board is pretty good, out of the box, F5h BIOS and I am runing Prime95 on Quad at 400 x 6 more than 1 hour easy... I havnt touched setings in bios much, only set memory to 4-4-4-8, 2.00A strap, more voltage to memory ~ 2.2v and CPU as needed, maybe something else lol... but when I tryed 425 x 9 that was ok on one of my eVGA 680i stable with 1.472v under load in Windows, this one is not going, maybe need to change somtehing more... ;)
Must test it more, need to test best BIOS for my CPU, but I cant last, that there is no normaly adjustable voltage only till 1.6v, its to low for Quad with vdrop! :mad: Vdrop is something about ~ +/- 0.05v under heavy Quad load from BIOS settings. Any BIOS suggestion? Maybe some new beta? :yepp:
I have gone through few Asus, GigaByte, eVGA boards and best that I liked myself still is eVGA, all the way to go, really great board if you can get it working and support from eVGA is even better!
plugged mine in from day1 even though using 1x gfx. I always work on the basis if it's there connect it:lol:Quote:
i would suggest everyone to connect it, wont hurt to get a bit more performance.
Edit:
@larry try these as a reference 9x400 13hr stable in later runs it went with vc @1.40, at your lower fsb should be fine.
luck:)
Well I finally went ahead and did a bios update. Went from the F3 to the F6b. Was a mission, to re-clock everything, but it's up and running! One thing for sure, is I clocked it 200mhz slower, but, the voltage is much less from 1.58 to 1.48......
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...cachemem-1.png
Still my best bios f5h
today running some benches on WATER and 2x1 promms/powerchips memory
SuperPI 32M @ 11min 29 sec :eek:
Perf.level 6
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/9...4242wj5.th.jpg
tried a few different bioses for X38T-DQ6 with the yorkfield
F2 stock
not bad but RAM doesn't clock well and bit slow :S
F5d @&%&^%@#@^#@ :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing pain in the arse bios
the only setting i seem to be able to boot at is 400*12 LOL >> 350*10/11/12 for example no go....360/370/380/390 no go hahaha WTF :mad:
the board cannot seem to clock my quad to anything higher than around 415MHz FSB whereas i was easily stable at 450 on DDR2 board
went to F4a clocks CPU great, doesn't have FSB holes and issues as other bios but the RAM ratios always default to Auto.....cannot be changed :mad: so when you boot they obviously go ultra crappy slow strap and it's really slow in bios
far out hahah
they need to do some more work on this DDR3 board bios
board feels more stable than DDR2 board but just funky bios issues argh
I think there should be 2 different threads, one for DDR3 and one for DDR2 since they use a different bios and pretty much 2 different boards.
Hey guys,
I got this board as part of my new machine last weekend and I'm having a strange issue:
Specs:
Corsair HX620 PSU
GA-X38-DQ6
Q6600 G0 - TT V1 cooler
G.Skill DDR2 800 2X2GB (5-5-5-15 SPD)
BFG 8800GT OC
2X WD SATA2 250GB
LG SATA 20X DVD
Vista x64 / XP Pro dual boot
I'm just trying to get the system stable at stock speeds right now - not even trying to OC it yet.
1. Under any BIOS other than F3, I can't get anything other than AUTO memory settings to run, which means 400Mhz with the 4:5 divider. I've been told 1:1 is optimal, but setting the divider to 2.00A causes the system to either not POST or error like crazy in Memtest. As soon as I go back to AUTO, it'll pass Memtest overnight and do hours of Prime95 just fine. With the F3 BIOS, the same is true, I can run it fine at 1:1 (266MHz) It feels sluggish though, like it's not quite as snappy as it should be.
I really don't understand why this would be the case that it's unstable at a LOWER memory speed than at the higher 400MHz one. I want to be able to run the latest BIOSes for the extra features etc...
Any idea what could be wrong here?
Thanks!
Ryan
don't mind me i experience all sorts of emotions during testing and "usually" don't post during testing hahahaha
i will report how new bioses go but not with the yorkfield as i have to return it back to Intel lol hahah
ok...hehehe:D
Ace correction in a bios name
it was F5d
well i can't REALLY test them properly with a quad core for obvious reason right ;)
Still no bios updates i see, telling ya...they've given up.
Meh, I was finally able to switch out my 4 x 1GB modules to 2 x 2GB Patriots. Price was right, so why not? :D I'm on F6b right now, so we'll see what happens.
Richard,
Have you seen any problems with the G.Skill RAM not running at anything other than 400MHz with the F6b? I can't get mine to run at any other divider with that BIOS - if I go back down to F3, it works at 1:1...
knock on wood, my board is awsome, passes memtest, occt and prime blend, and small fft's with my setup in my sig, love the board so far, much better than the maximus formula......but i might go with the 780i SLI board, so i can do sli.
I was tempted to do SLI on the X38 just to see what would happen ($400 for another GTX sounds good). Nvidia is pissed that it works, but they need to stop screwing Intel in the chipset market. I'd rather keep an Intel chipset board at this point.
New version of Easy Tune 5 Pro:
http://tw.giga-byte.com/Support/Moth...lity_List.aspx
Went back to my maximus:down: :mad: OMG what a POS that thing is. I hate MB that run stable when they feel like running stable:shrug: So im back with the DQ6 and im glad. Broke 21k 3dmark 2900xt Xfire moded bioses 850\950 and vista. Used easy tune to up clocks to 470fsb\4200mhz 3dmark does not show that. I remember reading a review that said the maximus out scored the dq6 in 3dmark. This is false at same clocks the dq6 scores around 50pts higherhttp://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=3877262:up:
50 pts is a sneeze compared to a total score of 21k!...it comes within the margin of a statistical tie.;)
Does anyone have problem with the X38-DQ6 ...with the sound card...It seems that the board generate electrical noise though all audio ports it can be heard only on the headphones but is annoying ...can anyone tell me what tot do to remove that noise?I have:
Q6600@3.2 ghz 2x1gb mushkin 8500(996535) enermax liberty ELT500AWT-DXX and 8800gts(768) Gainward is there anything that could make the noise except the Mainboard pleae help I like to watch movies with the headphones nowbody tested for this issue or is only my motherboard doing this problem anyone!!!!?? it pises me off that noise
New BIOS's are in the works. There is a very active German Gigabyte forum here...http://forum.gigabyte.de
It's of course in German but you might be able to translate with babel fish or soemthing. Anyway, beta F7a is available from this guy:
www.jzelectronic.de
He works a lot directly with Gigabyte and is a reliable source.
Also, the moderator from Gigabyte is promising more new BIOS's really soon.
I am new to on this forum and i have a problem. I did read almost all topics but i did not saw anyone who had my problem.
My specs are:
DQ6 X38 board Bios F5g
4 GB 2x2GB OCZ Platinum memory 5-4-4-15
74GB Raptor
Leadtek 8800GTS
500GB Samsung Spinpoint
X-Fi sound
Hauppauge tv
Corsair modular power 620W
Antec P182 case
Q6600 G0
Scythe Mugen
Overclocking goes well, i run my system at 3.6GHZ now iand i feel it can be much faster than that.
I set i bios:
9 x 400 FSB
PCIe 100
Manual timings ram 4-4-4-12
Trd 10
Ram 2.00A 800Mhz PC6400
CPU 1.48v
PCIe +0.35V
My system does boot well but when i close my system and i restart it the next day my bios does not like the settings he gives a light click and resets himself to 266x9.
When i boot with default settings after a while i can set the 3.6 values and it boots like charm.
When i set 8 x 400 this also happens but then my system says it runs on 2.13
GHZ 8 x 266.
So my conclusion is, only the FSB resets himselves, all other values stay in the bios.
Does anyone have a solution for this?
Thanks in advance.
The BIOS has a bug with DDR2-800 memory. Set all timings in BIOS manually. Your tRD is very relaxed, your're loosing a lot of performance. Try tRD7 or 8.Quote:
[...] My system does boot well but when i close my system and i restart it the next day my bios does not like the settings he gives a light click and resets himself to 266x9. [...]
I've seen screenshots of F7b which contains loadline calibration option. I hope that F7c will be released next week.
Thanks, i will try Trd 7 or 8. I had 7 before but i thought 10 might be the solution for my problem.
I have read about a F7a bios, is this one better then F5g?
I will also try to set all timings manual, i will look at the default values and put them in manually.
I will post my results on the forum.
Thanks!!
just reg for this forum...very informative
i have been using the F7d X38-dq6 bios for under a week now, and my system is very stable and fast 333 x 9 @ Vcore = 1.184
It does have another option Loadline calibration to keep Vdroop to a min
I had to email gigabyte and request this bios
So hopefully it will be posted soon on the various support sites. By the way, do the letter after the bios number indicate a Beta bios, or just the newest revision of a shipping bios
Kevin
A letter normally indicates a beta BIOS.Quote:
[...] By the way, do the letter after the bios number indicate a Beta bios, or just the newest revision of a shipping bios
@ Wakuwaku
For me F5i and F6b work best, with F7a I saw a drop in memory performance.
Updated Realtek 8111B LAN drivers, dated November 21st:
http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/...&GetDown=false
anyone tried QX9650 and extreme-cooling? LN2 or cascade?
Thanks all for the reply's.
Is there someone on here who also has a Q6600 on this board, 2x2GB RAM and who doesn't have boot problem while overclocking.
If yes, i wonder about your bios settings and which bios you have, i will try F5h too as suggested on here.
Maybe someone can mail me the F7d bios marcel___h@hotmail.com.
Thanks in advance.
bios 7fd is on its way
Kevin
Kevin Could U E-mail The F7d Bios As Well.......mjb1206@yahoo.com
Thank You !!
Can you upload it to RapidShare?
stupid question, but i have never used rapid share
any instructions on how to upload files
Kevin
http://rapidshare.com/ and then Browse... for BIOS and after all upload it :)
And post link here if its for X38-DQ6 :yepp:
Go to : http://www.rapidshare.com/
Click "Browse", select the file and click "Upload!". After that you click "I don't want a collector's account right now. Just give me the download-link."
Now you get a download link for your uploaded file and a link to delete it.
Ok Guys Thanks To Kevin, I just Received The Bios And UpLoaded To Rapid Share......Here Is The Link
http://rapidshare.com/files/72285542/X38DQ6.F7D.html
Thank you. :)
i tried dry ice
but cascade the CPU of mine has a cold bug right after -75C boot and it shut down so no go
it is not a board problem but CPU problem
Gigabyte always tends to squeeze out a few extra MHz out of CPUs compared to Asus and other boards for me though so that's always nice heh :)
Just loaded the bios, loadline calibration doesnt work....as for everything else, seems the same to me.
Seems that 4*1GB operation with Ballistix 8500 is impossible over 800MHz. One guy from another forum got this reply from Gigabyte support:
Wounder how this board manages 4GB of Ballistix Tracer which I aim for...Quote:
Hi,
The reason to make mobos with 4 memories is that it usually works. We have sold a lot more than 50 GA-X38 cards so that 50 people have issues with their combination of memories does not mean all GA-X38 cards are broken. But it can certainly seem that way as it's only those who do have problems that talk about it. For example I haven't received a single mail here saying our products work without a problem (and have no idea what I could help with if someone did send such a mail).
Back to the issue at hand, we have already tried everything that can be tried over mail. For more practical help please contact the reseller.
Best Regards.
The problem exists with my X38-DQ6. In order to run 1066 MHz, I had to remove two modules from my mainboard. Gigabyte needs to look into this as I would consider it an engineering issue. That email response from Taiwan does not sound positive. Most people have moved onto 2 x 2GB kits, so they won't see the problem. Telling the customer to pester the reseller on this matter is not a professional answer. The reseller will only RMA the motherboard for another one with the same issue.