New beta bioses for DS3, DS4 and DQ6. :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramguy
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New beta bioses for DS3, DS4 and DQ6. :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramguy
It's funny that your blaming all the DQ6's and not just your own (or your other hardware) I have a DQ6 using the F3 retail bios and a E6600 I boot at 333 (yes not much but better then what your saying the board can't do) which gives me an effective clock speed of 3GHz and it is rock solid from the start all day long with NO overvolting at all, I even forced the chip to the default Voltage so the board wouldn't over volt it automatically.
I had it running at 375 for a bit but did not like my temps (:banana::banana::banana::banana:ty HSF till i can get my watercooler) so I backed down.
So It is obviously not a crap board... maybe you have a bad one... or some other bad component holding you back.. who knows.. but blanketly saying that the DQ6 sucks cause you can't OC with your setup is pretty lame.
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Originally Posted by darkandlong
U missing that I already booted at 430 with another CPU...
You don't have to buy anything. Just be more accurate when you are crapping about the board. Did you test your components in other board?
Well I did test 2 boards (DS3 and DH), 3 memory sets and 4 diferent CPUs. Results are about the same OCs in both boards. What the hell is wrong with the board?
NOTHING! Its a CPU limit. Live with that.
anyone already tried the F5c Bios for DS3???'
regards
And where you can get that?Quote:
Originally Posted by mascarilha
e. Ok, now I found it.
Where is it?Quote:
Originally Posted by mascarilha
F5C for DS3 did nothing for me, still waiting for improved FSB:mad:
Same for me. :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by ClockCatcher
thanx for the lins :)
Its already been speculated by practically everyone that the 965s have issues with x9 multi/4MB cache chips. Sure, the extra cache can limit the OC compared to lesser cache chips.Quote:
Originally Posted by MonkSP
Sure, the 965s clock higher with the Allendales. That's also common knowledge. You're proving nothing.
Considering you couldn't even get a 6600 to boot at 310, I'd say the only one here with issues is you.
The fact that 6600s and 6700s seem to hit the same approximate FSBs tells me that we're a really good board away from getting better clocks with the Conroes. This is why I've bought the DS3. I'm not sinking over 220-240 US for an Anus or 975 board so I can resell it when I buy the 590SLI or RD600 boards that come out in a month or two.
Nowhere did I trash the board. I don't even have my 6600 yet. You barge into the thread and claim that 310 is a CPU limitation on a Conroe? 2.8 GHz? Yeah, right.
Current Conroe boards suck. All of them, not just the Gigabyte. I consider the DS3 the lesser of many evils.
I told you I tested the CPU on a 975 board. Asus DH has a 975 chipste. God!
Would not boot beyond those values either. I dont get what is wrong with you... I told you another CPU would boot 350.. Might even boot more as I will do more testing today.
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Originally Posted by darkandlong
E6600 retail @ AIR & gigabyte DS3 ( 392 FSB)
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/7817/semttuloai6.jpg
E6600 retail @ & gigabyte DS3 ( 440 FSB)
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/3553/13szl7.jpg
E6600 retail@ Vapochill & Gigabyte DS3(455FSB)
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/3464/64035ml3.jpg
regards
Obrigado mascarilha! Este gajo ainda não atingiu...
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Originally Posted by MonkSP
:D ;)
cumps
With new F4C bios for DS4 in cpuz I can see the correct vcore. :)
Anyone try F5c for DS3 yet? Does gigabyte have a change log for it?
And by the way, has anybody experienced problems when trying to overclock with the hard drive on IDE? NON SATA! i'm thinknig that could have been the only thing keeping my MAX POSSIBLE FSB to 404.. no matter how much vcore/vdimm/mch/etc....... really confusing.. trying to contemplate rebuyin this board as there is no way im paying 260$ for that asus if it's just as bad with IDE channels. has anybody got 450+FSB with an IDE hard drive??? AND YES, IM ON A REGULAR PCI graphics card!!!!!!!! and CL 4-3-4-10 ddr2-800 mushkin..so obviously it wasnt RAM possible p965 bug, or did i overlook something? i pretty much tried everything..open to suggestions..
So which of these pics are you actually booting at these speeds?Quote:
Originally Posted by mascarilha
I did try them but they keep on shutting off my Logitech G15 keyboard and G7 mouse. Went back to the F4 bios for now. Can't use them in the PS ports as they won't work at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSinder
Hmm, alright. I'll stay on F4 for now until more ppl try it out and see whats up. Thanks for the info.Quote:
Originally Posted by badboy
thats not my CPu ( i have a E6400) , that pics are from 3 diferent Mobos (ds3) and 3 diferent E6600s to show that Ds3 & E6600 runs High FSBs ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by darkandlong
regards
F5c beta running on my DS3,still hits the wall @481 :(
For what it's worth, I've got a DQ6 and an E6300 that I can run at 3.5GHz - 500MHz FSB - 24h on CPU tests and it won't fail, but my RAM (Crucial DDR2 667MHz stuff) isn't up to >980MHz or so, no matter the voltage. This is using the f3g beta BIOS, stock MCH/FSB voltage.
I'm the guy who is talking about a 310FSB and how the DQ6 sucks!
And i have HIGH END hardware: DQ6 with F4c beta bios/OCZ Gamextreme 700W PSU/Two WD Raptors ADFD 16mb cache/Plextor 716SA with latest 1.10 firmware/Creative X-Fi Xtrememusic/Conroe E6600 B2 retail week 24/Thermalright Ultra-90 with two Evercool 92mm fans in push/pull + Arctic Silver 5/ATI X550.
I've got 5 Vantec copper ramsinks on the NB cooler and one on the Southbrodge, i have Microcool heatsinks on any MOSFET's or chips i spotted on the mobo, i have SEVEN Coolermaster 80mm fans in my case...an Aopen H700A tower case.
My memory is G.SKILL DDR2 6400 with 4-4-4-12 timings, 2GB and was made 0605. Now...how can this setup be considered crap or the hardware holding me back???????
I have tried every possible bios option and followed other people's settings to try and acheive the overclocks they are getting.
I also tried lowering the multi to 6x and upping the FSB to 400, no boot..had to clear CMOS, i tried 360 and the same thing happens.
So it's NOT the CPU that is being limited as a 6x multi would give you 2.4GHz which is stock speed for an E6600.
The memory is rated to run 400MHZ (DDR2 800), i've tested the memory at it's rated 800MHz speed...it's fine.
It's the either the bios or the motherboard, end of. I know people are getting great overclocks, the point is trying to find out WHY it won't reach what others have done and fellow forum members trying to help...not :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:slap each other.
Richard, set your memory to auto in bios and Load Optimal Defaults.Then show us a CPU-Z Screeny of the Mem timings.
I ask this because I get more FSB runing my PC800 @ CAS 3 than @ CAS 4 The board defaults the timings to 3,7,7,17 2.1V they are good up tp 455-465 FSB.
DQ6 F3e
Ok well i have updated to the F5c beta bios for the DS3 and i am still havin DVI problems with my x1800xl
every time i connect my LCD using DVI i get 'no signal detected' then i connect via Dsub and it works perfectly.. i tried my x1900xtx and it works fine with DVI..
any ideas?
CPU-Z when set to auto shows 5-5-5-15, when i manually set timings it's 4-4-4-12. That early bios problem has been fixed.
Surely the ZX kit won't run CAS3?...i have now tried F4d...same crap as before. It's all about CPU voltage as i can see it.
Testing 322x9= 2.9GHz, i need to manually set 1.400V in bios for the VCORE, VDIMM is 2.3V, with a little 0.5V kick for the MCH and FSB..
Dual prime testing now, no doubt it'll fail on it's a*se.
richard i didnt go back and read everything but what was the short story version of whats wrong ?
i'll see if i cant throw some words your way.
I can't get the CPU past 2.9Ghz without throwing a massive amount of VCore onto the CPU, over 1.450V. Even then the FSB won't go past 340.
GA-965P-DQ6 - Version F4d Beta
Is the worst heap of crap.
Anyone successfully boot from cd and flash bios? I've tried 2 different boot roms and neither seem to work. It's like it can't read the disc...
i've had two B2 6600s that would pass S&M @ 333x9 default vcore...Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
that would require around 1,425vcore to get stable around 366x9....
it's not something uncommon....
with 1,55 they seemed to max out around 390x9 (onDS3/DS4)
(mch +0.1)
prolly not the best o/cers
but if you can maintain a max cpuTemp below 60C
i think you'll be fine
F4d bugs....the issue of plugging in a SATA optical drive onto one of the yellow Intel ports + having a RAID array setup and said ports = NO RAID ARRAY!
It is NOT fixed, you cannot connect a SATA ODD and have a RAID array seup on the Intel ports, if you do your RAID array disappears and you won't be able to boot.
Also the Intel QST option in bios is borked, will not work...i get a global reset warning if i do try and enable it, also the EIST option in bios also no longer works. With all options set to auto CPU-Z shows me that the multi stays at 9x and CPU speed is 2400MHz, it's SUPPOSED to drop to 6x and 1600Mhz.
NO amount of voltage will get an E6600 to even boot at 3.2Ghz, with a FSB of 356 and the Vcore set to 1.500V + 0.2V on both the MCH and FSB options in bios.
It just will not boot, to go from 2.8Ghz to 2.9Ghz requires a massive increase in voltage. I was at 1.4750V to get to 2.9Ghz. Wheras i go get 2.8Ghz with a moderate 1.36250V.
This board just plain sucks and i can't see ANY bios making it better. Update on this...with F4d the ZX G.SKILL memory NEEDS 2.2V to even boot. anything less it will not post. With F3 it would POST with 1.950V...now it won't.
Gigabyte bios is getting worse with each release.
FYI the CPU-z thing was changed in the last version and DOES NOT SHOW the CPU clocking down. Try 1.35 and it will still show you the CPU dropping.
Just for a lark I tried OC'ing my DQ6 With the f4d beta bios to see if I would have anywhere near your issues, I could boot all the way up to 401*9 FSB But the temps on this :banana::banana::banana::banana:ty HSF worried me so I went back to 333*9 and that was with stock voltages all around (forced the cpu to normal so no overvolt) and forced the x2 multiplier for the ram cause I read somewhere that that helps... I know it was Stable at 380*9 cause I ran prime95 x2 for over 3 hours... just hated all the damn noise from the fan keeping it cool. Just putting in that not all the DQ6's and E6600 retails have issues like you suggest.
"This board just plain sucks and i can't see ANY bios making it better." Yours maybe, call gigabyte and RMA it you prolly just got a borked one.. it does happen.
Edit* I just read in another thread that you started richard that the board is running very hot for you.....
"OUCH! , man this board runs HOT, you could fry an egg on this thing. The Northbridge gets VERY hot, Southbridge is a little cooler...the Gigabyte SATA2 chip (Jmicro) !!!...smoldering hot!
That chip need a heatsink on it, it gets very hot to the touch....the MOSFETS are also warm, think somr sir cooling might be needed, like an SI-128 or something blowing down."
I run raid on the intel port side and no matter what I do to the board to try to even get it to get warm it simply doesn't... If your NB and Jmicro are that hot to the touch something is VERY wrong with your board!!!!
I actually fixed the F5c by loading up optimized defaults because I didn't do that the first which I forgot to do. This bios works fine for me but what are the fixes is what I want to know.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSinder
It works for me. Though as mentioned, I get the smart error. I now have two sata optical drives pugged in, still working.Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
My QST option does not affect anything else when enabled here. Are you clearing your CMOS by unplugging and popping out the battery?
This 965 chipset mobo looks interesting cause' I can not see any Ram timings adjustment in bios. Using official F3 bios. Is this the case with, according to Intel "mainstream" chipset ?
You must press Ctrl+F1 in BIOS screen to have access to "hidden option" like mem timmings.Quote:
Originally Posted by IluvIntel
Cheers, Charloz24. I recall seeing it around here somewhere but could not find it. THanks !:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Charloz24
F5C for me:
fsb wall +20Mhz, can do now 420x7 but needs VCore 1.4V which sux when considering i need 1.15V to do 400x7, but still better
STILL NO CHANGE AND THE DEF VDIMM IS 2.1V (+0.1 in bios gives 1.9V)
It is an internal release for FSB and Memory compatibility testing only. I would stick with the F4 until F6 is released shortly.Quote:
Originally Posted by badboy
OK. But what if it is working for me then?Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo13
the next beta, you will be the guiny pig ? :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by CrazyJohn
probably :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Pjoeloe
still my D9 prevents this mb from overclocking well so i grab every opportunity to make it better ;)
anyway sb did upgrade to f5c and reported it to be working so i did give it a try. i still remember when dq6 bios was named as 'ds3' and sb lost his mb ;/
Deez...what SATA optical do you have?, i have a Plextor 716SA with the latest 1.10 firmware. I have two identical ADFD 16MB Raptors, both made May 9th 2006 with the same 00NLR1 firmware.
I have the drives connected to ports 4/5 with the Plextor connected to port 3. How does your setup differ?
No, i just use the jumper option, short it a reset and "load optimised defaults"Quote:
Originally Posted by Deez Nuts
I have the reverse, the AHCI bios loads but the RAID bios does not, i do not see the RAID array and the array disappers in bios and i cannot boot from it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deez Nuts
Do you have anything set in bios?....like boot sequence?, have you selected boot from HDD?
are you sure you tried 1.4v at 420fsb before F5C also?Quote:
Originally Posted by CrazyJohn
Priming for 3 hours is not good enough, i've had Prime fail after 6 hours. You need a minimum of 12 hours for dual prime Orthos + use Memtest86+ and The Windows versions, Super PI and other stress testing programs.Quote:
Originally Posted by cold_realms
The issue i mentioned about the NB and SB being hot were from the perspective of just building the PC and not used to the new hardware, it's normal for the NB and SB to be hot, in fact the new F4d bios appears to have dropped the temps...to the finger touch test that is.
My board appears functional in all respects, it works...when you have everything set to default. Overclocking...no go.
Again i have tried to set the FSB to 400x6 = 2.4GHz, it will not boot. You say you have the MCH and FSB voltages to deault, well i tried that + 0.2V up on both and it will not boot.
So i am going to RMA my G.SKILL ZX memory, sending it back Monday and G.SKILL say they will send me a HZ kit instead. So we'll see if things get any better.
Personally i think it's the memory, either that or my CPU are absolute crap at overclocking.
Give a try to 401 FSB. There seems to be an issue with setting proper strap timings at exactly 400. (not my observation but another forum member) So I tried at 400*9 and no boot, but setting it to 401 resulted in a sucessfull boot (no tests cause I have other things to do today). So I can't say if it's stable but it does boot and thats a start give the 401 FSB a try!
f5c...
so far everything is working great
except the fact that i can no longer boot @ 390fsb... :banana:
370 seems to be the top with my rig and this bios...
tommorow i'm gonna try the f4e again and report back
oh and another thing...
my geil 2x1gb 6400 that passed two complete memtest loops @ 970
on a ds4
are now limited to 950 5-5-5-15....on a f5c ds3
(still haven't figured out the secondary timmings though)
Right...tred everything from scratch, removed the CMOS battery and left standing for one minute. Inserted, reset and load optimised defaults.
Tried as you said, 401x6 = 2406MHz...no boot, left Vcore a default 1.325V amd default on the FSB and MCH.
Then upped the FSB to the maximum 0.35V volt, no boot, upped both the MCH and FSB to 0.3V...no boot. Upped the MCH to 0.5V...no boot.
The CPU is not being limited as it's only 2.4Ghz, the Vcore is normal....so you tell me, why won't it work??
What memory do you have?Quote:
Originally Posted by cold_realms
ocz2p8002gk Retail Kit. 2.1 v normail I believe. And as an edit i do alter the mem voltage because the board only sends 1.8v to any dimm so I added +.3 to bring it to the dimms requiered 2.1v
hhmm i'll give the F5c a spin and report back.
i dont like seeing you guys say its not overclocking as high.
hhm i was able to cold boot at 412 now i cant... hhmm....
booted at 425 w/ 1.5v though but damn even with my water the cpu idles at 45c and 57c load. yucky damn these chips get warm real warm with anything over 1.45v
but so far thats all i see...
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Originally Posted by cambrian
Week 26 E6400 chip results so far G.Skill 6400 nr..
Priming atm 3.440 same voltage..:)
http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/2...1mhzda7.th.jpg
I guess I'm going to cave and get a working floppy. Any comments on USB floppies? Would still like to get a working CD ROM flash if anyone's an idea.
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=27L4226&cpc=SCHQuote:
Originally Posted by Jodiuh
Shipping is kind of high I guess.
Well, I now connected my second sata odd and my RAID BIOS went away. Ugh! I have two Seagate Momentus 7200.1 2.5 inch hdd's. Lite On 161S sata DVD ROM and a Samsung W163A sata DVDRW. I had the hdd's on ports 0 and 1 with the Samsung on 4. RAID worked though I got the AHCI smart errors. I put the hdd's on 4 and 5 and put the Samsung on 1 and the Lite On on 0 and no raid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
I'm going to try and mess with it a bit today.
The I get the continuous reboot before post every now and then as well.
well i sure as hell hope your using the purple slots for raid if you have the DS3.
cuz those are the only ones that use raid.
and dont use that stupid AHCI.. it is nothing but trouble. use either IDE or RAID. dont use AHCI
and i do not like this F5c bios. not stable at all with my usual settings.
i also flashed back to the F4 bios and now the board isnt stable at all. im about to get real peeved if that bios did something
i am no longer stable at 1.35v @ 3.6ghz which i always was before. infact i didnt even need 1.35v for 3.6ghz but now 1.35 isnt stable.
WHY?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
no speed differences for me
and AHCI has hot plug and NCQ
but SATA drive @ purple ~150MB/s
SATA @ ICH8 ~130MB/s according to HD TACH
I'm at purple with AHCI and works great.
Try to clear cmos, (get rid of the battery for like 5 min ) and disconnect the power supply including the seperate 12 V. Then do the F4 flash ( and do not forget to load optimised settings in bios ). It`s something with the P965 chipset that is buggy and is remembring fault settings. Something to do with C1 stepping of p965 wich is solved in C2 see http://download.intel.com/design/chi...t/31305402.pdfQuote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
DQ6. ICH8R. Mixing raid and optical SATA is something that every ichXr chipset has done (for me at least). I would prefer to disable the third part non-intel ports.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
Generally Intel chipsets are pretty solid, but I think they were so desperate to get Conroe out and boards that supported it, the 965 has not had all the kinks worked out of it yet.
So I ordered a DS3 (deja vu) for a rig for my pops.
What is the best BIOS to use right now? I'm lookin' for SOLID with a minor OC (2.4GHz out of a E6300).
Should I just use F4? Should I flash in DOS?
I noticed you did not mention these:Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
Did you fix the PCI-e freq? set a fixed 2x multi on your Memory? Or did you just leave them at AUTO?
Make sure nothing is out of specs first except for the FSB... PCI-e GFX Cards won't run at PCI-e freq of 150MHz! So set it at 100-105. Make sure memory has a multi of 2x.
most people run FSB @ 400 without any voltage increment to FSB / MCH.
If it still doesn't boot, start increasing the MCH voltage. Leave FSB voltage aside first. It doesn't do much.
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Originally Posted by Brahmzy
With a 40mm fan on your NB, you should be able to get 400x7 solid on your ds3 + e6300. Shouldn't need to up your vCore at all. Of course, that is if you have DDR2-800.
I left the PCI-E frequency to "Auto"...should i set it manually to 100MHz?Quote:
Originally Posted by ZachSaw
The multi was fixed manually to 2:2 in bios.
I am going to wait for G.SkILL to issue me with a new 2GB HZ kit, it's either the memory, bios or CPU...dunno really. :(
Exactly, i want to disable the onboard JMicron 363 controller and save on resources/IRQ's. I tend to disable as much as possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deez Nuts
aldamon:
Thanks, I'm gonna check walmart, lol.
Pjoeloe:
I have had issues with this as well. My previous Abit boards could be flashed within windows, and all that was needed was a "load optimized settings" switch for OC stabililty.
Brahmzy:
If you get a friendly chip and your ram's 900...you can hit 3200!!
Also, I had issues manually setting PCIe speed. :confused:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
If you memory ran at 800MHz without any flaws, then it's not your memory if your fixed it at 2:2 in bios. I've not seen anyone with PCI-E set to "AUTO" running at 400FSB yet. It's almost impossible for the cards to clock at that frequency.
Pjoeloe, how can we tell what 965P chipset stepping we have, especially if I have the DQ6 with its heatsink in the way?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pjoeloe
Also, can anyone confirm if the 4d bios is in English language? I just extracted it to a floppy and the dialog box to do it was written in German or something like....:confused:
Yes the F4d DQ6 bios is in english.
Thanks m8, I could not wait for a reply so flashed with it anyway. Now conducting tests with dual SuperPi_1.5 runs.. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by cold_realms
So what are you aiming for with your OC?
The german was the extraction forms because you downloaded from a german site...
Ive just put my system together with an e6600 and a DQ6. Im first trying the f4d bios. Its rock stable and ive had no real issues. With the voltage on normal (about 1.4v when loaded) i can dual prime at 3.33ghz all day.
After this is starts getting trickier, i havent started playing with voltages yet and am still getting used to everything.
My final aim is to try and get 3.6 stable out of it (i have decent watercooling so can give it some more vcore).
Another discovery , pressing f9 in bios shows system information. :)
Nothing new with the F9 key :banana:
I have the DS3 with F3 Bios but i'm not sure if it reconize my 7950 Gx2 and wich bios would be better than the F3
Thanks
the latest official F4 Bios is OK for you
Ha thank you i was starting to have doubts, i'll change with the F4 then.
Thank You E6700+ STT 1000DDR2 OCed, I hope it will not messup teh rest ;)
Hey Mate, I notice that Everest (build 693 Beta, at least) shows various chipset revision details.Quote:
Originally Posted by IluvIntel
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1156791997
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1156791997
My DQ6 is dead, hence 945pro details above, but I know version .693beta fully supports the 965 chipset and recognized my old DQ6.
Yes but Auto is supposed to set the PCI-E frequency to 100MHz anyways?Quote:
Originally Posted by ZachSaw
Nope, it's left floating with FSB.Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
ed: even if it is running at 100MHz, there's no harm making sure it is indeed at 100 to eliminate potential problems from the pci-e freq.
Rubbish - the default is auto, which would mean that running at stock the PCIe bus would be going at 266MHz, that is, 266% of what it's meant to be running at. I've verified that mine is at 'auto' and my FSB is currently 480MHz.
So Auto is 100MHz?...dunno, can't seem to understand why i can't OC with the DQ6, maybe some new memory will bring me better luck.
Thats interesting m8, but I'm not one to pay for this version of everest to find that out. That features available in the free version?Quote:
Originally Posted by GAM
As high as possible o/c with E6600 B2 stepping chip on air, but stable for benchies...:DQuote:
Originally Posted by cold_realms
And probably a little lower than the peak benching o/c for Orthos stable over say 12 hours...;)
I need to find a program that can reliabe tell me the correct DDR2 timings in Windows. CPUZ v1.36 is not indicating this as I set them in bios vF4d.
Another thing. When I set my o/c around 390mhz FSB with 9x multi and put through the voltage levels I found worked on my MSI 975X conroe board, this board seems to have trouble booting up and just seems to go around in a circle such as on for a couple seconds, then back off for about a second then repeat several times...
I have plenty of power from my 750W psu. Strange behaviour from a motherboard. First kind of behaviour like this I've seen in all the 9xx chipset mobos I ever owned and that about 5 of them over the past 2 years...
Yep.Quote:
Originally Posted by IluvIntel
Forum topic with details and link: http://www.lavalys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=1710
Link for direct download: http://www.lavalys.com/beta/everestu...poemxqs2hc.zip
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1156807954
A new DS3 bios the F5c , i'm in it but didnt notice nothing dif . Who has ?
There's a divider depending on the strap. With the 1333FSB strap (auto selected by the gigabyte board), auto should drop it back to 100. It climbs from there.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElBobbo
At 266MHz FSB, it's running at 100. At 200, it's also 100. With the unofficially supported 1333FSB strap, it's also at 100. The bios engineers have the option to restrict "AUTO" to 100 with 400FSB and above, but whether it's really implemented is another thing.
Anyway, could you verify what your PCI-e freq is at 480FSB?
There's no harm to set it at 100MHz first to eliminate it from being a problem. And, nVidia cards have much lower PCI-e freq tolerance.
stupid sh|it like that is what confuses new people.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElBobbo
the fact is that the pci-e freq floats around with teh fsb it gets a little squirrely
no one ever said pci-e freq = fsb
he said it floats around.
the fact is that if left on auto the overclocking gets a little rough.
if locked at 100 or 105 or even 110 things make for better overclocking.
and i still say the F5c blows chunks for overclocking. i went back to F4.
they were improving things and now they are going backwards.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZachSaw
i maybe very wrong here but i am not away that the 965 uses the 1333 strap.
infact i would almost bet it doesnt.
leaving the strap at 1066 would allow the 965 chipset to seem faster but not allow as high of fSB. which is exactly what we are seeing.
now.. on the flip side of things it is possible it IS using the 1333 strap simply because at the same clocks the 975 chipset is faster.
on the 3rd side of that coin, we already know the latency of the 965 chipset is looser than the 975 which could also explain why its slower..
so...
either way i dont think the 965 uses 1333.
i'd sure as sam hell love it if gigabyte got off their arses and fvcking fixed the issues with Micron D9 ram not going over 950mhz.
its really starting to piss me off and i'll have to go buy someone elses board soon if they cant fix it.
So PCIe on what for best OC? I'm on auto...
i'm using auto too as 100 doesn't seem to make a difference in my OC. What is default PCI-e speed?
Auto is ok if your at stock speeds.But for oveclocking you should lock it to pcie 100.Which by the way is the default speed.Not what the front side bus runs at.
FSB = 266 PCIE = 100 PCI = 33 Stock.
I apologise - it was my mistake assuming he was implying that it was 1:1 with the FSB.
However, doesn't it seem ridiculous to you that if you set it to 100MHz it's suddenly going to develop the ability to run at 100MHz if 'auto' cannot? If you set it to 'auto', it's going to try to stay at 100MHz; if you set it to 100MHz, it's going to try to stay at 100MHz. If it can't do it, it can't do it.
Also, has anyone got any suggestions on a utility that'll show PCIe frequency? CPUz/AIDA32/GCPUID don't do it.