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i do realize that... that is why i know that a "how to" will not happen... but useful information reagarding the use of my drivers in some obscene fasion provided in nothing more than links, keywords, and or general hints... how is that really forbidden... perhaps i would like to create my own drivers to work with my hardware completly free of anything nvidia? (yeah and monkeys will fly out of my butt!) :eek:
hopefully we get some working drivers for X38 chipset :D:D:D:D
do you mean, there is somethink like that in progress? (pm ;) )
BTW, hat is the password for that old 84.66 SLI driver pack?
Well guys, as it is stated in a thread or a post before, the thing that makes it tick is in the *v*_mini.**s file. This means that if you have the forceware mod of big_sam; 84.43, 84.56, 84.66, 85.96, etc, then you can customize your own forceware prior to 87.xx. Collection of forceware archives can be found in laptop2go, and you can use 165+ xml for SLI profiles. You can import them using nHancer or copy-paste nvapps.xml to your system32 folder.
Personally, I am currently using 86.62 (Asus driver with a **d inf). The original driver was WHQL, but of course, changing the inf voided that. The miniport driver I am using was the 84.56, which doesn't have the screen mapping problem during restart and with 7300/7600/7900 support. It's weird though that in the inf that is included, there are 8600 GPU IDs.
The latest 86 I believe was 86.63, did try it and it worked. When it came to the 87.05 with 84.56 miniport, the control panel won't load during start-up. The 91.xx with the 84.56 miniport, the PC BSODs, and finally with the 163/169s, with the 84.56 miniport, the driver replaces itself with the new one every restart even if the file is in read-only mode (pretty tough huh?).
Well it worked for me, having these specs:
Intel Pentium 4 640 3.2Ghz Stock
ECS PF5 Extreme 945P Chipset
1GB Dual-Ch DDR2-533 -o'ced to 667 5-4-4-12
Palit 7300GT Sonic 256mb GDDR3 @ 560/1400(700x2) [SLI] in x16/x4 operation with ASUS bridge
Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005
86.62 with 84.56 miniport
This PC is 2 years old by the way.
3dmark06 (1024x768): 4624 (SM:2219; CPU:953; HDR:2218)
http://geocities.com/heeroyuy2k3/8662-4624-score.JPG
To verify this, a 7300GT Sonic GDDR3 at 560/1400(700x2) will not really reach 3000 in 3dmark06 alone.
And by the way: These drivers does work with any chipset. I mean any. VIA, SiS, ATI, Intel etc, you name it.
Sorry nV, I got to post what I've found out. Back to NDA mode.
it would be very interesting to see SLI drivers for X38
man those 3DMARK world records would be tumbling down so hard :D heh
Install driver on usb stick and enable write protection ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by heeroyuy_37-PH
Now we need 8800GT SLI drivers for Vista and X38 :D
Follow up, the 86.62 modded forceware is not Crysis SP Demo friendly, after playing for around 5 to 10 mins, nv4_disp crashes. I uninstalled this and tried the 86.02 with the 84.56 nv4_mini.sys. I'll try to upload them in case you guys are interested.
someone listen to this guy :DQuote:
Originally Posted by BulldogPO
yes!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
OMG, I can only thing of the possibilities of SLi on my P35 board......PLEASE someone make this possible.....
Another theory, I believe that Intel chipsets can do SLI with the help of an nforce 100 PCI-E chip "that splits x16 PCI-E bandwidth into x8+x8 configuration". These are found on Alienware m9750 SLI-enabled laptops and yet are powered with Intel i945PM chipsets. They have additional lines in their drivers that look for the nf100 chip and let SLI to be engaged. Why can't we emulate anything like that for that matter, maybe emulate a chipset or a certain chip? I mean we can't do anything about the x16+x4 thing, but there are boards that do x8+x8. They have their SLI-nf100-enabled driver in their website. There are also modded infs in the internet that allows almost any GPU to be used.
I'm sure this is doable. I mean there are people who can bootstrap OSX and run it into VMware. There are those who can emulate a dongle for cetrain softwares. There are those who can bootstrap activation for certain OSes. I mean, this is not that hard if we really want to.
Well if there are no efforts, I'll be waiting for an nForce DDR3 motherboard or until my present motherboard fries. It would be better if nVidia would accept motherboards for trade-in for SLI-enabled motherboards.
86.02 with 84.56 nv4_mini.sys and 167.26 nvapps.xml
http://rapidshare.com/files/69157544/86.02_mod.rar.html
86.62 with 84.56 nv4_mini.sys and 167.26 nvapps.xml
http://rapidshare.com/files/69160378/86.62_mod.rar.html
word :)Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
Asus P5E X38 has 2 x16 lanes that are pci-e 2.0, You think there is a way to get 2 Nvidia Cards to run in functional x16 Sli?
Say two 8800 GT's?
2nd that...Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
I have found a file on the net using google some pepople are saying that it works whit every chipset and the latest drivers but I am still waiting on my 8800GT's and I don't have a X38 board to test it. (No DFI X38 in my country jet )
Its from a reliable source NGO made this one.
Bump... Hoping for an Intel X48 Dual-SLI 8800GT setup for Xmas! :)
~Pacal
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Originally Posted by pacal
Damn, I wish I was getting that for Xmas. :(
Are you taking about this patch ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Disaster_Master
http://www.ngohq.com/news/5872-nvidi...sli-patch.html
I could not make this patch work at all.
Is there still a no go for SLI X38 and X35?
interesting...
Seeing as most of nVidias drivers are along the same lines/modular code etc, would it not be possible for some code genius to write an app or script that attaches itself to installed drivers and change what needs to be changed?
It would be slightly more versatile than adjusting individual drivers.
Even if nV adjust their code, the app can be adjusted too..
I KNOW SLI should be possible on any mobo that supports the hardware..im actually surprised no-one has cracked it wide open yet!
Hello,
I have an Asrock 4CoreDual-VSTA board with AGP and PCIe slots. I have a Palit 7600GT in the AGP slot.
My question: Can this mod work if:
1) I add my AGP card to the inf file (NVIDIA_BR02.DEV_02E0.1) and
2) I do NOT use an SLI bridge (no connector on AGP card, of course)
With the two slots so close together, the idea is to use a cooler on the AGP card that hangs over the back toward the CPU, and put a nice 7600GT from XFX into the PCIe slot.
Finally, in your opinion, am I likely to get a decent performance boost? (My Palit OCs like mad, currently get 4238 in 3DMark06).
Thx.
I can say that it will work, cause guys from ocworkbench.com have run this config. As to the connector, it's not necessary since one of the driver versions. But the performance gain was quite small. You can check this out though by yourself.
I have a Asus P5B deluxe 965 and 2 6800GS .(my dfi680 died and I bought a cheaper one and used)
Please send me the SLI Mod Driver.....
This is a good motherboard to use a QX6700?
Best Regards
R4zor
ps:sorry for my english...I don't know if it is correct or not:shrug:
Good enough.
Go to the first post and download them ;)
Is there a patch that would allow me to run SLI on x38 chipset?
Nope.
I think if you run 7900 series or lower then this driver works on any chipset, right?
I was under the impresions that GF8 series would not work.
Having said that I was party to seeing an as yet unreleased Intel board running SLI on 2x 8800GTX recently - the chances of this being available publicly are incredibly slim.
Ok, could someone (perhaps via PM if you're more comfortable that way) explain to me what exactly is involved with nVidia's driver encryption (I've heard mention of something about 12 keys... WHQL maybe?)? I'm not too terribly familiar with Windows' driver model, but for asynchronous encryption to work, you need the actual key itself to decrypt the code. That key would have to be stored within the binary release somewhere. Asynchronous encryption, polling a remote server would work, but then you wouldn't be able to install the drivers offline. Can anyone point me to some more detailed information?
hI THERE SO HAS ANYONE FIRGURED THIS ONE OUT YET? PERHAPS THIS SHOULD BE A personal e mail thing if so..Well if anyone has figured this out please e mail me hod333@hotmail.com
I have a m3a32-mvp deluxe and want to run my 2 8800gt,s in sli....Thanks much
and the 9600GT. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by BulldogPO
someone should unsticky this thread
clearly there will be no more updates for newer chipset or we would have had something by now :(
I agree, this topic is DEAD. I just bought what may be my LAST Nvidia mainboard (790i) and there is "talk" of corruptions. However a lot of talk of this corruption seems to be extreme FSB >2000 FSB combined with extreme ram overclocking and timings. I hope it is isolated to those extremes as I am now doing 1893 FSB @ 4.26Ghz on E8400Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
BFG stopped MBs after 680i and I know why now. I had four 680i replacements and 3 sets of ram replacements apparently after some time the 680i boards were eating up ram. :mad:
So if NV doesn't get their #$@ together I'll never buy another mainboard and possibly might be pissed enough to go over to RED and do crossfire with ATI on reliable and stable Intel chipsets.
Multiple video cards basically does very little except for benchmark scores anyways.
Says the guy with an economy PC and likely has never done 1920x1200 or 2560x1600 res on the newest games. It is FACT and I can easily show you these facts but if you just do some research you'll see that 1920x1200 or higher res shows 90-100% increase in performance. I in fact benchmark within games with SLI on and off. Also a little 2.4G opteron isn't enough CPU power to push a pair of SLI cards.Quote:
Originally Posted by b1lk1
1280x1024 is 3DM06 default I get 18,300 with E8400 @ 4.26G that is 1.3Mpixels being pushed. When I go to 2560x1600 that's 4.1Mpixels, or 3x the pixels my score goes down to 13,300 why isn't it 1/3 the score if SLI doesn't do much.
You want real FPS scores in games go check the numerous XHD FPS scores in games from non-sli to SLI you'll see. If you have 1600x1200 or less then enjoy your single card :-)
BTW I need to update my sig to show 3008WFP monitor, E8400 @ 4.26G, 790i, DDR3 @ 1893mhz
BTW, I should also mention I have a Intel C2Q SLI PC running 1920X1200 I use mainly for testing and software/game reviews. There are hardly ANY games that use SLI/Crossfire enough to make it worth it.
You shouldn't judge a book by i's cover.
PS: Usnig 3D MArk scores to judge real world gaming performance is ridiculous. 3D Mark is a silly silly program that is only useful for boosting self-esteem and sperm counts.
lol, what were u saying pentium?? :P more likely... I should also mention I do have a Skulltrail with dual QX9775's @ 5ghz with quad 3870X2 and quad 9800GX2 in the same board...:ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by b1lk1
Try any real quality games lately? Like Crysis, COD4, The Witcher, Bioshock??? Oh all of these utilize SLI and utilize it well....Quote:
Originally Posted by b1lk1
Stop dreaming wet dreams :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Atal
hey charmedmeat could you please e mail me offline and perhaps we can try to figure this out with the sli on intel...heres my e mail hod333@hotmail.comQuote:
Originally Posted by charmedmeat
That kind of statements might get you banned from XS, 3DMark is holy grail in this community! :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by b1lk1
You sir, show a lack of knowledge and should do some more reading before making yourself look foolish.Quote:
Originally Posted by b1lk1
Thanks, bye.
Hey guys,
Just got registered here after about 2 weeks of waiting LOL. Oh well, I am glad I finally got activated!
Anyway, I am taking a crack at getting this working with new drivers. Not making any guarantees but I've got some good data so far.
Please see my thread over at techPowerup for some of the work I've been doing on this. I wanted to post here initially but couldn't due to the activation period :P.
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?p=808821
Which was branched from Solaris17 thread on the issue here: http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=58232
I think the audience for this is much larger here at XS since everyone is in constant pursuit of the latest greatest and (supposedly) unattainable :).
Show us some proof like screensot of completed 3DMaro06 and CPU-Z + GPU-Z programs open.
Sorry I didn't make it clear. There is no "proof" as the current drivers don't work. We are trying to develop them but the testing pool of people with XF boards and 2 cards is rather small and there seems to be a higher proportion of said people here since this is an enthusiast community.
Therefore, the point of my post is to see who is interested in helping test these drivers as I only have one tester (sinister_steve) at this point.
Thanks.
Those beta screenies on Tech Powerup are worth nothing.
Believable screenshot looks like this:
http://www.hwbot.org/signature.img?i...14&thumb=false
Bulldog,
For the last time. YES they are not done. And YES those screenshots show basically squat. Solaris put them up on the first set of drivers he stared without me. We basically started two separate projects and now are working together. I'm a bit farther along but still haven't gotten it working yet.
Yes - I've seen what HWBot looks like and I'll be sure to use it as soon as a I get the chance..
At this point we aren't trying to PROVE anything. We are trying to get it working and need volunteers to help test.
So if you have a XF board and 2 SLI capable cards and want to try out the next driver set we whip up or help us run tests on the hardware then people let me know!
I´m still hoping that it can be done, maybe using 9800GX2 SLI code in drivers.
finally .. thats the first smart comment in the whole recent sli unlocking discussion (compared to all the clueless driver component swapping or inf editing)Quote:
Originally Posted by BulldogPO
But I still doubt it ad there are integrity check in those drivers, so it can be done but coder needs sourcecode for drivers or it is not going to happen.
So who is willing to break NDA with nvidia? :D
That is one smart view on this matter :)Quote:
Originally Posted by BulldogPO
I'm not sure if you were referring to my efforts or not but I know Solaris17 initially started with INF editing. However, I have been attempting to alter the code and modify the drivers themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by W1zzard
*EDIT* Which I guess you are and assumed I was doing only INF editing since you said that was the first "smart comment".
And I already had the same thought on the GX2 since you technically have SLI enabled on the board using those cards.
Does Solaris17 have sourcecode for those drivers?
find the check and remove it. can be done without sources. there is no uncrackable softwareQuote:
Originally Posted by BulldogPO
I know that there is no uncrackable software :)
We just need some one from cracker scene to make some work.
so anyone here helping sol and bluevelv work on these sli drivers for 8 series ? for you sound like you know what ur doing to why not colaberate info and this will get done quicker
It's been a long time and noone has done it yet. Noone spends as much time and money as Nvidia does to prevent their stuff from being cracked. In fact, game devs should hire Nvdia to make their games as uncrackable as these drivers, LOL!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by W1zzard
Any info on progress?
Well it will be a while till sol and bluevelvet have done all the moding with these drivers as they mentiond to me..so perhaps in few weeks...steve:up:
Any updates?
Few weeks have passed.
Any news?
Just like I predicted, no news and no progress.
Dudes you shoud decompile that GX2 code or make driver that emulates nForce 200 chip.
But all of this is not possible without drivers sourcecode.
Case closed, someone should lock this thread.
This article means it is possible to compare code. We can see aspects of what changes from the driver revision that does not have the SLI feature on X58 boards vs the one that does. Using a decompiler and debugger it should be possible to figure out. big_sam probably is not working on this anymore, so maybe someone may need to take up the torch. I may try and figure it out once the releases are out there. But it would be cool to work with others to make this happen as it would happen quicker.
http://arstechnica.com/journals/hard...x58-mainboards