The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

Can any one give me some Advice????

i have some temp ram in my machine while i wait for my replacment Reaper 9200.

when i boot my machine gets stuck on Countmem ?????

the machine is at total stock!!! no overclock or changes in bios except RAID, ive tried 1 stick 2 sticks clearing Cmos using battery ive reflashed the bios and i cant understand why i get stuck at countmem.... its not frozen tho i can hit buttons to enter setup and it registers but doesnt go anywhere??

after about 10 resets and cmos button hits it finally boots?

i cant understand this? any help?

thanks

you guys having issues i swear you have the ram set up to tight, flashing back to 0907 should do nothing really as long as you are mindful of tRD, tRFC and tRAS.

Im about to post 5Hrs+ 8GB at 1000 with bios set to 1.8V stable, i used the stability test in Everest. I tested Linpack this afternoon for 5 hrs and Everest caught errors in 20 mins so im thinking everest may be better at this time.

I quite like this 1003 for now, I will test some fsb with my yorkie over the next few days

If I ran my ram any looser it would be like a $2 whore with a $1.50 change comming.
1003 seems an like a renamed 901 bios to me. Same ram issues and hard as hell to find the correct settings. Even after I finally got it to boot there was alot of lag and bandwidth was restricted alot more than 907/903. Its not worth the effort to make the jump imho

Anyone have experience with these on the maximus?


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820313043
Team 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066

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Originally Posted by Pandamonia

Can any one give me some Advice????

i have some temp ram in my machine while i wait for my replacment Reaper 9200.

when i boot my machine gets stuck on Countmem ?????

the machine is at total stock!!! no overclock or changes in bios except RAID, ive tried 1 stick 2 sticks clearing Cmos using battery ive reflashed the bios and i cant understand why i get stuck at countmem.... its not frozen tho i can hit buttons to enter setup and it registers but doesnt go anywhere??

after about 10 resets and cmos button hits it finally boots?

i cant understand this? any help?

thanks

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No help?

I had that problem i upped my northbridge voltage and mem! That did the trick!

If the MF1003 bios is still unofficial, shouldn't it be noted in the OP of this thread?
Not that I'm lecturing or anything, just for completeness and everyone getting all the info :)

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Originally Posted by Grnfinger

They wont do a cross ship anymore?
Hell you could be months b4 you get the board back.

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I had experience with that (in germany) and it took about 4 weeks, till board came back repaired, that was ok for me :)

I humbly ask for help of the PRO's.

My thread:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=177591

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Originally Posted by Grnfinger

They wont do a cross ship anymore?
Hell you could be months b4 you get the board back.

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Nope, they don't have any in stock and won't do advance or cross-shipping.

Only repair, not replacement. So I'm screwed....

@KUP PLZ REMOVE 1003 BIOS PLZ, or at least put a warning next to it...

Plz put on the front page that the 1003 Bios really is crappy too for Qx9650 (don't have the E8400 at the moment) ...At stock all fine...then I couldn't touch the multi (up nor down) : had to leave that on auto... Otherwise pc wouldn't post... then tried my usual settings for 450FSB (to get to 4ghz again ) no post... had to up NB voltages to get the pc to post though never succeeded in booting into windows... I just got the new Qx, feeling pretty sad as this was not good, put back the old Qx in ...same issue... reflashed to 0907 via EZ flash and all works now...
New L740B159 is better than the 747B512 I owned... this one does 3.6ghz at 1.18 volts 2 hours priming small FFT's my other one needed 1.15 to be at stable at stock lol...

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Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

@KUP PLZ REMOVE 1003 BIOS PLZ, or at least put a warning next to it...

Plz put on the front page that the 1003 Bios really is crappy too for Qx9650 (don't have the E8400 at the moment) ...At stock all fine...then I couldn't touch the multi (up nor down) : had to leave that on auto... Otherwise pc wouldn't post... then tried my usual settings for 450FSB (to get to 4ghz again ) no post... had to up NB voltages to get the pc to post though never succeeded in booting into windows... I just got the new Qx, feeling pretty sad as this was not good, put back the old Qx in ...same issue... reflashed to 0907 via EZ flash and all works now...
New L740B159 is better than the 747B512 I owned... this one does 3.6ghz at 1.18 volts 2 hours priming small FFT's my other one needed 1.15 to be at stable at stock lol...

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same as the 1001 ;) reported all these issues then, seems they still have not fixed it

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Originally Posted by Tony

same as the 1001 ;) reported all these issues then, seems they still have not fixed it

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Gotta love Asus bios support... It's a shame, the boards are usually really good, but just suffer when it comes to the bios! :confused:

for those looking NOT for an OC but a fast quiet stable 8GB I just ran this...1003 with its issues is actually quite nice for 8GB clocking.

This at 1.8V set in bios, 1.84V real measured on the motherboard. 8GB 6400 Plat quad kit, not cherries but they sure are a fine :)

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/st...asus_1.84V.png

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/st...4V_timings.png

Yeah at stock it's okay, but as soon as you want more it goes mad lol...( feels like a striker revisited, maybe it's the same bios engineer having a bad hairday :p)

Oh i know fsb and multi is broken with the 9650...i told asus this on the 1001 hence why I did not release it.

main point of my post was 8GB 1.8V 1000MHZ was easy...new trfc option is workin well

so when does setting the trfc higher then 42 come in handy? High fsb OC? 4 sticks ram? will setting trfc manually allow one to set the performance level lower (closer to 0)? I can't get my system to boot with perf level at 6,5,4, etc..

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Originally Posted by Tony

Oh i know fsb and multi is broken with the 9650...i told asus this on the 1001 hence why I did not release it.

main point of my post was 8GB 1.8V 1000MHZ was easy...new trfc option is workin well

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How are the Reapers going Tony...Pretty interested in a kit... but only to run them at stock clocks nothing more....but also nothing less... Are they the same powerchips as on the competitions' model ? and will they be released as 1066Mhz models too ?

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Originally Posted by Tony

Oh i know fsb and multi is broken with the 9650...i told asus this on the 1001 hence why I did not release it.

main point of my post was 8GB 1.8V 1000MHZ was easy...new trfc option is workin well

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It's weird that they didn't have the proper trfc options when set manually on previous bios. Leave it at auto and I have 52 (which is good) but switch to maunual and the highest option was 42. Don't know what they where thinking at ASUS?:p:

I've made some quick tests with QX9650 and bios 1003 and seems to work fine (tested multi 10 and 12)

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/889...1003fn9.th.jpg

I know many are complaining about (alpha) bios 1003, but my experience has been different. The secret to a problem free flash (ez flash) is to set everything to auto, ok, not everything, but make sure your ram frequency is set to its default speed; eg. PC2 6400 rated memory should be set to DDR2 800.

The best thing about this bios for me is that it will do things prior bioses couldn't do. For example, I couldn't run TRD (PL) 7 anywhere close to 500 fsb let alone beyond that. But now, I can do that easily into the high 530's and I'm only limited by my ram, which is rated for DDR2 800. I've posted Everest shots in the previous pages.

In short, what this means is that in most cases, some fine adjustments have to made. This bios is "the performance bios" so far... I'm frankly amazed at some of the numbers I could so easily get my changing a few digits in bios whereas in the past, with the previous bioses it took a struggle for the system to cook up these numbers. I think the true potential of this board is emerging with this bios. With even more possible control options, it will live up to its name. Of course I had to run a quick bandwidth test of my 24/7 OC on my regular OS just to make my point;

Hi

What was wrong the 1003 BiOS? I do not seem to se it on ASUS' website.

Thanks
NBK

Hmm... differing reactions to this bios.

I wonder how it will do for me.

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Originally Posted by Prodigys

Anybody with more brains off PLL or GTL Ref information that can help me here ?

In short :

CPU can reach 475 FSB on AUTO settings
NB can reach 475FSB on AUTO settings (1.55 vNB)
CPU can run hours and hours stable on 475 x 8.
CPU can NOT run 475 x 9 for 5 min stable....

So the CPU can take the high FSB but not the high speed, besides that it is not to low Vcore but something else, so that's why I ask you guys if GTL ref or PLL can help me out here ? Or something else that I don't think on right now...

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Depends on the CPU. I have a Q6600 (GO) that can do 500FSB. 485x is smoother for daily use on 8x. The 9x is more stressfull on this core, it is a combp of FSB limit as well as core speed. I found a combo of either 4.01GHz or 501FSB in whatever combo of ratios worked for mine.

If you want more FSB out of a quad, you really need to manually time PFF, FSBT and vcore. mine needed PKK of 1.712v for starters and 1.5v FSBT

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Originally Posted by Zucker2k

Let me put it simply, rock stable at what overclock?

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Ya, exactly. 400FSB on these x38's is practally stock, hardly a challange for this chipset. However, at 500FSB I doubt even 67c would be smooth. Something would feel the heat. And especially if on stock cooling, that means way too much heat for all the components on the same pipe line (SB, PWR mosfets).

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Originally Posted by MrWizard6600

you guys im staring at the checkout page at ncix for an asus maximus formula, should i pull the trigger?

ive got my E6300 to 3.5 on my now dead (rip) evga 680i board, I only wanna take this sucker if I can do the same. I'll ghetto mod (and later pro mod) a 3cm fan (from old Athlon XP cooler) to sit on the north bridge. I'm running four 1066 rated Ballistix Tracers.

Also, what do you guys think about nehalem support on X38. Total crap shoot? Is there any board that stands the best chance at supporting next gen procs? this is the last mobo im probibly going to own for three or four years so it needs to last!

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I agree with the others, if buying soley for the E6300, not really worth it. But if it's what you have, and you plan to upgrade soon, then yes, a great mobo. I also agree, the MAXIMUS FORMULA is a beautifull board with rich feature set. The DFI is simple, but very stable and gets the job done.

Just to note, the E6300 on this is gonna go far beyond where any nVidia could ever take it. Again, each core is different, but mine on older P5WDG2-WS hit 532 stable in 1:1 for DDR1066. I know this chipset is good for that with the right CPU so you should be good to go a bit over 515 easy on this.

MY TWO CENTS

Anyone know how well 2GB of Transcend PC8500 will do on the Maximus Formula with a E8400?