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10-14-2006, 07:18 PM
Lestat

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I personally know of at least 3 other DQ6 users who have had few, if any, problems achieving comparable overclocks

compared to the countless others just here at XS who have nothing but issues.

but ive also said before these baords are very sensative to PSU, and CPU,, if you got even the slightest crappy cpu,, these boards wont play night, or even a flakey psu they wont play nice.
you gotta have a spot on cpu and psu to get them to really scream.

i mean hey i love my DS3, and i can honestly say im one of the few here or anywhere who can consistantly stand here and say they are happy they got it.
but i also know for a fact that these react very differently to the ES chips, as do most boards. as the boards were designed around the same ES chips i am using. so.

the only thing i am waiting for is gigabyte to fix the micron D9 issues and i will be in 7th heaven.
then its time to start rolling out the vcore droop mod and such.
im getting some nasty 0.05v droop and its killing my clocks.

WITH droop i can do 3.6ghz @ less than 1.28v
3.7g at clightly more and 4g will hold at less than 1.5v but its gotta hold at close to 1.5 or it fails. and this board just cant handle that high of voltages. the PWM are just doesnt react well and it gets as hot as 90c.. which is just insane!
i can also do 2.4ghz @ less than 0.90v with almost zero droop. since its such a low voltage the PWM can hold the volts without drooping.
im still searching for the golden board so i can truly let loose on this conroe, but until then i will stand behind my DS3 as the best conroe board to have for under 200 bucks.
10-14-2006, 07:28 PM
BiOvOrE

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Originally Posted by Lestat

compared to the countless others just here at XS who have nothing but issues.

Where?? There's a few in this thread, where are the countless others?? And how do you explain the reviews with good overclocks?? Surely they would've mentioned if there had been problems.

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Originally Posted by Lestat

but ive also said before these baords are very sensative to PSU, and CPU,, if you got even the slightest crappy cpu,, these boards wont play night, or even a flakey psu they wont play nice.
you gotta have a spot on cpu and psu to get them to really scream.

Agreed. But this goes for ALL overclocking, not just with these Gigabyte boards. Remember we're talking unheard of overclocks with the new Allendales/Conroes, more than 50% is around the average. With overclocks of that degree there's a lot more room for smaller things totally unrelated to the motherboard, which might not ordinarily be a problem, to present themselves as obstacles to higher overclocking.

I simply refuse to believe that the DQ6 is the sole component responsible for a sub 3Ghz overclock on an average E6600.
10-14-2006, 08:06 PM
mele

I disagree....I belive the average is more like 33%. Which is not bad for a Conroe, but not 50%.

Mel
10-14-2006, 08:11 PM
BiOvOrE

Yeah, 33% seems a bit more reasonable for the average overclock, I spose. 50% for the average higher end overclock (with liquid cooling etc)
10-14-2006, 08:21 PM
Lestat

listen if i paid as much as you guys did for that board id be expecting a helluva lot more considering i paid $145 for this board. can you guys boot at 440 x 9 ?
i can... 500 x 7 ? i can but the D9 ram pukes out so end of story for that lol.

and "there are a few here" i think you may want to check your 6 man, look around you, FEW DQ6 owners can say they are able to push the board without something puking out. its a plain and simple fact, i been in this thread from the start, you came here just within the last few pages..
this thread is FILLED to the brim with DQ6 owners who have nothing but complaints. the same can be said for the DS3 and even more for the DS4 ,,

but anyways guys this isnt a whats good or bad thread its a bios thread so back on topic....
10-14-2006, 08:32 PM
BiOvOrE

Read the thread again, I've posted a few times here and there. Like that matters anyway.

You still haven't shown me the "countless" DQ6 owners who are having trouble. Or explained the high overclocks achieved in reviews. The fact that a few have posted (repeatedly) in this thread is totally inconsequential.

Anyway, I'd take advice from someone who claims an E6600@3.8Ghz in their sig, but leaves out the fact that it's at 8x multi, with more than a grain of salt if I was a casual reader...
10-14-2006, 08:44 PM
JCGhz

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Originally Posted by BiOvOrE

Read the thread again, I've posted a few times here and there. Like that matters anyway.

You still haven't shown me the "countless" DQ6 owners who are having trouble. Or explained the high overclocks achieved in reviews. The fact that a few have posted (repeatedly) in this thread is totally inconsequential.

Anyway, I'd take advice from someone who claims an E6600@3.8Ghz in their sig, but leaves out the fact that it's at 8x multi, with more than a grain of salt if I was a casual reader...

:clap:

Issue free DQ6 owner here.. everyone has issues at first. I did.. they no longer exist.
10-14-2006, 08:50 PM
cold_realms

Ok still not super OC but I am now at 390x9 @2.5 = 975MHz!!! on that "crappy ocz" as lestat puts it. Still only at 1.8v. Remember that at 2.0-2.2 I could NEVER hit 435+ on the ram and now I am at 487.5!! So if you have the OCX p800 platinum kits but can't oc very well try LOWERING the voltage to 1.8

I am still testing, I will push this till it screams! DDR2 1000 HERE I COME!
10-14-2006, 11:00 PM
HamidFULL

whats difference between new 13 Oct BIOS and 11 Oct?
new BIOS can do better clocks?
10-15-2006, 12:00 AM
HamidFULL

I flashed to DS4 F6 13 Oct no change I have seen (in boot screen show 12 Oct) only I found F6 11 Oct is 740KB whilst F6 13 Oct is 688KB!!
10-15-2006, 12:51 AM
kenofstephen

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Originally Posted by Lestat

listen if i paid as much as you guys did for that board id be expecting a helluva lot more considering i paid $145 for this board. can you guys boot at 440 x 9 ?
i can... 500 x 7 ? i can but the D9 ram pukes out so end of story for that lol.

and "there are a few here" i think you may want to check your 6 man, look around you, FEW DQ6 owners can say they are able to push the board without something puking out. its a plain and simple fact, i been in this thread from the start, you came here just within the last few pages..
this thread is FILLED to the brim with DQ6 owners who have nothing but complaints. the same can be said for the DS3 and even more for the DS4 ,,

but anyways guys this isnt a whats good or bad thread its a bios thread so back on topic....

have you ever think about your pair of HZ??

they maybe suck.
10-15-2006, 01:51 AM
mach82

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Originally Posted by JCGhz

:clap:
Issue free DQ6 owner here.. everyone has issues at first. I did.. they no longer exist.

The same here. At the moment no problems at all. There were some in the past but since F3G BIOS I've had none. Great OC, stability, performance.
10-15-2006, 02:20 AM
Richard Dower

Well i bit the bullet and placed an order for a new E6600, no idea what week i will get though, hopefully week 28 or 29, god willing it'll overlclock a bit better.

What i want is around 425x8=3.4Ghz, even 3.2 would be cool...with least amount of Vcore possible.

I have also decided to get the new revision B Scythe Ninja Plus...should be a wicked cooler.

As for the DQ6...like i said all along it's getting better, the new F6 from Oct. 12th is supposed to fix the X-Fi issue...i noticed that the X-Fi issue was still present with the Oct. 11th F6 bios, so hopefully the revised one will finally fix things.

DQ6 is a good board, packed with features and great cooling solution, the fact that GB increased the FSB from 340 to 440 shows they are going in the right direction.

They also fixed the SATA optical issue, F7 apparently is going to fix Micron D9 issues and hopefully more. If they fix the SYS_FAN + update the bios ROM's for the Intel and JMicron controllers i'll be well pleased.
10-15-2006, 02:24 AM
Richard Dower

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Originally Posted by HamidFULL

I flashed to DS4 F6 13 Oct no change I have seen (in boot screen show 12 Oct) only I found F6 11 Oct is 740KB whilst F6 13 Oct is 688KB!!

Thats just the download file size, the F6 bios is still 1024kb, maybe they modified the batch file or something.
10-15-2006, 05:08 AM
eXceeded

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Originally Posted by Richard Dower

Well i bit the bullet and placed an order for a new E6600, no idea what week i will get though, hopefully week 28 or 29, god willing it'll overlclock a bit better.

What i want is around 425x8=3.4Ghz, even 3.2 would be cool...with least amount of Vcore possible.

I have also decided to get the new revision B Scythe Ninja Plus...should be a wicked cooler.

As for the DQ6...like i said all along it's getting better, the new F6 from Oct. 12th is supposed to fix the X-Fi issue...i noticed that the X-Fi issue was still present with the Oct. 11th F6 bios, so hopefully the revised one will finally fix things.

DQ6 is a good board, packed with features and great cooling solution, the fact that GB increased the FSB from 340 to 440 shows they are going in the right direction.

They also fixed the SATA optical issue, F7 apparently is going to fix Micron D9 issues and hopefully more. If they fix the SYS_FAN + update the bios ROM's for the Intel and JMicron controllers i'll be well pleased.

Would love the bios ROMS to get updaetd and the D9 what ever that is, must be good :D. But I am actually happy right now, my RAM is running at PC2-8500 (1Ghz :D) and my CPU is cruising at 3.2Ghz, I want to aim for 500x7 and my RAM at 1:1 but I don't think I can do that without some sort of watercoooling :S
10-15-2006, 08:41 AM
Paladin

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Originally Posted by BiOvOrE

Yeah, 33% seems a bit more reasonable for the average overclock, I spose. 50% for the average higher end overclock (with liquid cooling etc)

Maybe more people like me should chime in to let the 50% become average.
Using the stock HSF my E6400 + DS3 is running 3200 24/7 at 100% load on both cores (58C, 1.32V).
3200 - 2130 = 1070
1070 / 2130 = 0.50 = 50% OC.
10-15-2006, 10:12 AM
HamidFULL

Paladin you are on 3.2GHz with stock HSF and your load temp is 58C!!!! 58C with easyTune or CoreTemp???
its great whats your ambient temp?
10-15-2006, 10:16 AM
av8ndv8

Can't complain about DS3 F7 bios, it upped my max fsb a little and my E6400 and cheap Patriot DDR2-5400 mem has run going on two days now at 450x8...

488x7... (not orthos stable over ~5 mins)
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=130017

450x8...
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=130038

Add me to the 50%+ club also. :toast:

With some decent chipset cooling, this ol' cheap board could probably turn in some respectable O/Cs. :D
10-15-2006, 10:18 AM
Lestat

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Originally Posted by kenofstephen

have you ever think about your pair of HZ??

they maybe suck.

yeah thats the first thing i tried they are fine 1100+ on a P5B

and you know just as i do Ken that the DS3 HATES and i mean HATES the Micron D9GKX the GMH isnt as bad it can go a little higher but still not as good as it can on another board.

hell event he DS4 can run the D9 based ram at 1000+ so why cant the DS3.
anyways,, i sure as heck hope GB fixes this by the end of this week, if not then i am buying a different baord.

and i also hear the DS3 C2 boards are fooked also for D9 ram,, they still dont work, so gigabyte has to get their head out of their butt's and wake up.

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Ok still not super OC but I am now at 390x9 @2.5 = 975MHz!!! on that "crappy ocz" as lestat puts it. Still only at 1.8v. Remember that at 2.0-2.2 I could NEVER hit 435+ on the ram and now I am at 487.5!! So if you have the OCX p800 platinum kits but can't oc very well try LOWERING the voltage to 1.8

I am still testing, I will push this till it screams! DDR2 1000 HERE I COME!

pretty good man i may have to eat my words huh ?
even though i know you said its 1.8v i find that VERY hard to believe. im sorry for saying that even though you say its 1.8v
i've seen alot of platinum kits around and they are ok but 1.8v ? come on now i think maybe you should measure the voltage on the mobo with a DMM.
if your right,,, WOW! awesome!
10-15-2006, 10:24 AM
mele

I have not had that much troulble with my DQ6 lately because I got tired of the problems with it and the lousy tech support.

I got a P5B and was able to get 400 MHz more out of my 6600 than on the dq6 all on auto settings.

I've since got a 6800 for the P5B and put the 6600 back in the DQ6 and use it for a folding @ work machine. Still can't get it stable over 3.2GHz.

The main thing that really pissed me off with the intial problems I had was the piss pooor attitude of Gigabytes tech support.

Mel
10-15-2006, 10:28 AM
Lestat

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Originally Posted by mele

I have not had that much troulble with my DQ6 lately because I got tired of the problems with it and the lousy tech support.

I got a P5B and was able to get 400 MHz more out of my 6600 than on the dq6 all on auto settings.

I've since got a 6800 for the P5B and put the 6600 back in the DQ6 and use it for a folding @ work machine. Still can't get it stable over 3.2GHz.

The main thing that really pissed me off with the intial problems I had was the piss pooor attitude of Gigabytes tech support.

Mel

dont you love the gigabyte support they are a real bunch or weeners.
10-15-2006, 10:32 AM
Emperium

Finally I sold my mainboard@@ Next week he goes and never come back :banana: ! BYE BYE Gigabyte!! Never take product of you again!! I promise!!:woot: And thanks for youre BAD support!!

I think its gonna be Asus P5B Deluxe Wifi, or Abit AB9Pro..
10-15-2006, 11:20 AM
Dazog

I updated to F7 Dated October 12/06

Really did fix X-FI issues, my X-Fi was acting wonky in F6.

Waiting for F8 betas to push my Team Extreme Ram.
10-15-2006, 02:45 PM
Jodiuh

After initial boot I lost my X-Fi, but it's been good through 7-8 more.
10-15-2006, 05:46 PM
newls1

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Originally Posted by Jodiuh

After initial boot I lost my X-Fi, but it's been good through 7-8 more.

Im using the F7 BIOS aswell, and my XF-i keeps getting dropped, only on reboots though.

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