if your pc was overclocked when installing windows,i would suggest you run everything at stock,other than maybe a little extra vcore and vdimm!!
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if your pc was overclocked when installing windows,i would suggest you run everything at stock,other than maybe a little extra vcore and vdimm!!
yeah something was definitely wrong, because it would hang at "please wait" if I tried going straight to Bios17, the floppy drive would be on standby. So I tried going to 16 official release which worked then from their to 17. I don't know what happened but it worked so that's all that matters to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
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Originally Posted by Daytime Dreamer
did you say which windows version this is happening on?
just noticed C1E&EIST are broken in BIOS 17
*fixed*
strange did a reflash and hard cmos reset via battery removal and C1E works fine again:up:
Its a WinXP Pro with service pack 3 splipstreamed Ace.
Settings seems to work now after the install but I have idle temps of 50-52 celcius. I am using an Ultra 120 with a push-pull config
ChuckM...check yer PM's!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
ace-a-rue : I have memset 3.5 but its 'frozen'. as was yours. can you explain where you go to enable 'network' and 'invoke agents'
thanks
Mine too. :( I just DL'ed it last night and it seems stuck. I'm getting "7" on Performance Level though. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthur Dent
yeah me too - performance 7 right now but was 6 on earlier configuration.
Ahhh! What config was it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthur Dent
Edit: BTW - I'm getting similar temps as you in Prime95 (Speedfan = 53C, RealTemp = Core 0: 47C/Core 1: 52C, Ambient: 77F) with 3.66Ghz & RAM @ DDR2-1099/1.94v.
to tell the truth in the past 4 weeks (12 hours/day) i have done literally 100's of configs and kept them all on paper, often scribbles going in all directions and on both sides of the paper!
will go through the large stack of paper 'notes' in small towers around desk and post config settings that gave performance=6.
Im sure many overclockers out there know exactly what im talking about.
aztec : im using realtemp 2.68 as its the most accurate for quads and now shows up the swapped core bug in intel quads. (dont even ask me to load Uguru software although i have the Uguru clock installed) BTW I also tried CPUID but was a little concerned when it said my cpu was @ 295c/400+f
Update : IT lost the hard disk again at 400X7 with little voltage increases to everything compared to stock BIOS settings
This time the Windows installation went corrupt ... I'm suspecting it might be the Raptor-X's fault and not the mobo's
It did this when i was unraring a big file, rebooted and then it could not detect the hard disk anymore. This time with BIOS 14 so I dont really know the source of all this problems :(
My P35Pro died yesterday - first a Windows freeze, and when I powered down the board wouldn't power back up.
Pulled everything off the board, but the red LED that indicates power is on is flashing on and off and there's no LCD readout. Tried another PS but same flashing LED.
I suspect that the power regulator is gone, and the flashing LED is just the PS overcurrent protection going on and off.
Anyone seen anything like this - before the RMA goes in?
Since I upgraded to Vista 64bit Ultimate I have been having a nightmare of a time with random shut downs and crashes. Windows has been reporting them as NVIDIA driver issues.
I have tried driver cleaner pro and many 64bit drivers and just this week a fresh format new windows install and fresh drivers and its still crashing...
So I started to assume it was hardware based problem. So on a whim I installed XP 64bit and amazingly I am 100% rock solid stable.
This has all been done at stock for testing and I have BIOS 14 in right now.
I am wondering if this is possibly a MOBO related problem or not.
Also EVGA tech said that sometimes VISTA reports RAM problems as video card error so I have run memtest and at stock the g.skill is error free but with the slightest overclock the RAM fails test 6.
I hear ya...I do much the same thing on o/c notes. Trying to keep them in some order is another thing. :wth: Let me know if you find it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthur Dent
I updated to bios 14. CPU-Z however says bios10 for some reason. On the other hand uguru shows my cpu idle temps 10c lower (from 36c idle to 26c idle). I'm not sure what to make of that: here's what the inside looks like.
Hey Art, I got level '6' @ 440 x 8.5 & 1:1:25, same volts, timings, etc. No errors/warnings in Prime blend for a few hours at least and temps still in low 50's. Probably not a bad 'everyday' setting if it's long-term stable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthur Dent
1.44v in bios. May about 1.43v idle in windows and 1.40 - 1.41v load. Well, that's what everest and cpu-z says. Don't have uguru installed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
cpuz is usually offQuote:
Originally Posted by vassalle
check your bios for vcore, you install uguru..uguru ispretty darn accurate
For those who asked about performce level 6.....
You guys haven't always run PL 6? Then again, these are my Dominator C3FD....My Team run PL5. I'll have to look into this unlocking the MCHBAR thing.
http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/1037/p6ys6.png
http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/1...1dd681b2d1.jpg
The Team Xtreem
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/9254/p5mg1.th.png
Wonder if I could unlock it to PL4?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=6582Quote:
Originally Posted by 18 is # 1
______________________________
ABIT IP35 Pro Motherboard
M629B17.ZZZ Rebels Haven Mod BIOS
E8400 8X500 1.40V
Danger Den Water Cooled
2x1Gig Super Talent PC6400 5-5-5-15
EVGA 7800GS
WD SATA 120GB
Antech 550W
pretty good memory to do PL=5Quote:
Originally Posted by 18 is # 1
D9GMH....still, not a bad OC for PC5300.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
Was thinking about kicking up to 4GB...will the Pro handle 4x1 of the Team, or should I look at a higher bandwidth 2x2 stick like
Dominator TWIN2X4096-8500C5DF:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145197
once you go to 4 gigs, you will be lucky to even do PL=6...4 sticks will be the harshest scenario; next comes 2 x 2gb memory scenario...your easiest overclocking memory scenario is 2 x 1gb single sided sticks.Quote:
Originally Posted by 18 is # 1
Well, tried to RMA this thing on a cross-ship but ABit sat on my request for 4 days before finally telling me "we don't have any"!:mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by quickcanuck
I need my system for my business, can't wait any longer - what can I buy that is similar to the P35 Pro that will work with my Intel CHR9 raid as is? (Can't get a new P35 Pro anywhere in Canada...)
How about IP35 Pro XE? I don't think there is much difference other than "official" 1600 FSB support. Although I'm not positive....Quote:
Originally Posted by quickcanuck
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813127050
Is anyone using the IP35 PRO in an inverted case? I've got a Lian-Li A05B and I'd like to preform the bolt mod finally (been lazy).
Everyone saying that you should add a fan to the NB and PWM but in my case, the SB is at the top of the heat pipe, and its not exactly a beefy heatsink.
Has anyone done this and had success?
@Dephcon....I'm a complete n00b, lets get that out of the way:D...follow this, aBit thread...majority of the peps here helped me...was very patient with me...so I'm sure, they would gladly help you too.
I know little of the difference, hence the posting of screenshots...so if they tell me "up this" or "lower this" I do and post screenshots. Then they tell what to do next...so far no one told me to jump off a bridge :rolleyes:
There's pics there too..
Goodluck...:up:
I've seen a couple posted that use inverted cases. They didn't report any problems, but they weren't from XS either. Unless you're really heating it up (i.e. Folding@Home with an overclocked Q6600 or similar) I wouldn't imagine it would be a problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dephcon
Jump off a bridge Cpl! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Cpl Ledanek
:D hey man how you been? thanks again if I haven't thank you enough over at aBit :up::up::up:Quote:
Originally Posted by hokiealumnus
Did you ever see the final product? Over here at Petra's Forum
Would that be the NB or SB?:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by hokiealumnus
hey 18 is #1, I see your still plugging away..:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by 18 is # 1
Yep....and still searching for the elusive stable 4 GHz.:brick:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cpl Ledanek
Hi there, you certainly did and you're very welcome. Doing well thanks, hope you are. Very nice job on the system, looks great! Thank you for proving my point with your photos as well...Dephcon, click his link; there's an up-side-down IP35 Pro in action for you. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Cpl Ledanek
I feel like such a slacker with my Antec 900...:(
I've just ordered an abit ip35 pro and have the following question (I'm sorry if it's already been answered in one of these 270 pages) :
I used to have a Gigabyte board, and when the computer failed five times to boot due to wrong overclock settings, the bios would change back automatically to last known working configuration. Is there a similar function on this board as well?
I'm not sure, but I don't think so. What it does have is the ability to save BIOS profiles and an external CMOS switch for easy clearing. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Zehnsucht
I think that's somehow a function of gigabyte's dual bios.
the bios will reset itself to previous known settings that worked by pushing the power button to power down and wait a few seconds before powering back up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zehnsucht
if for some reason that fails to make it post, you can use the clear cmos switch that is located on the back of the I/O panel, just below the P/S 2 ports....in this case, you can use the F7 key to load previous saved CMOS settings.
abit is killing themselves by not getting their IP45 board out.
They could skip the IP45 and just get the X58 chipset out. I'd be happy.
problem with that, their customer base erodes...they dig themselves deeper in to an economic hole.
Well we wouldn't want that, Ace. But what do you mean, skipping say the IP45 or 48 gen would put off a lot of sales? Why wouldn't they sell as many or more of a supposedly faster chipset like the X58?
i, for one, would look to another manufacturer to get my boards...i like abit, but, if they can not put their boards out in a timely fashion, i'm going to move on without them....board makers are sought of like car makers...they all roll out their newest vehicles in september, it they waited until january, february to get them out, they would be behind the sales curve.
lol clearly you were never a fan of DFI thenQuote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
do a quality job, release when actually finished vs do a quantity of jobs and half-finished...
I'm happy with my first aBIT IP35 PRO, from a ex-loyal ASUS owner.
I agree. I've never been married to one board brand either - whichever brand/model suits my needs at the time gets the sale. For various builds I've used abit, EPoX, ASRock, DFI, ASUS, even...*gasp!*...ECS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
But you didn't address my original question about abit and 45/48 vs. X58.
NOPE!:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Glow9
abit is taking a chance of turning off some of their customers if they bypass certain chipsets, which support 775 pin cpu's, to jump into a totally new chipset that requires customers to purchase a new processor...buyers will upgrade boards with the same cpu..but..upgrading board and cpu can be risky especially since the economy, at least in the USA, is struggling.Quote:
Originally Posted by aztec
i think abit is suffering financially so they are forced into cutbacks...i heard that abit went from 4 working bios engineers down to 2...could be sign of the times of a world economic slow down especially with the price of a barrel of oil just about affects every product we buy...people don't realize how much oil is part of the world economy, not just for gasoline, petrol or whatever name you use...you are talking about plastics, stryofoam, chemicals, cosmetics, asphalt products, polyurethane foam found in furniture and beds and plywood adhesive...there are more!
Well since Abit is slow about the P45 board, I decided to pass the time by doing a little cooling update to my IP35-Pro. Don't know if it will be any better on the NB and SB but I have always had problems in the PMW area. And I know my new 4870 is going to like it's new friend.:up:
Great stuff Pntgrd :up: I was also thinking the same now that dog days are here. Next time I crack the case where the ip35 stays I'm changing sinks and going with copper on the mosfets.
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Originally Posted by Pntgrd
This may be some useful info:
Source: http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...=8500&Itemid=1Quote:
Accelero S1 can't cope with HD 4870
Written by Slobodan Simic
Thursday, 17 July 2008 12:56
Goes over 100°C
According to a post over at forumdeluxx.de, Arctic Cooling's Accelero S1 rev.2 paired up with the Turbo Module fans can't cope with the heat produced by the HD 4870. According to the product page on the Arctic Cooling's web site this one supports ATI's Radeon HD 4850/4870 cards.
The problem however isn't with the card's GPU but rather with the VRM part of the card, which gets quite hot when cooled by the Accelero S1. It just seems the VRM part gets too hot without a heatsink and that's it. The situation got a bit better when the Turbo Module fans were replaced by a 120mm fan, but 98.4°C on the cards backside is still a lot. The product page on the Arctic Cooling site also shows that Accelero S1 comes with a special heatsink for the VRM but it is unclear from the pictures if this user has used it or not.
Of course, Arctic Cooling has released a new Accelero Twin Turbo cooler that comes bundled with memory and voltage regulator heatsink and it packs much more cooling power with dual 80mm fans. Still, it's nice to know that you shouldn't try the Accelero S1 without making sure that you placed a heatsink on the VRM part.
Pix of the hotspots: http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/show...93#post9575293
I hear ya on the crappy economy, and I think there's worse yet to come. Hopefully abit can get things done with less resources, but it'll probably be a tough go.
it is funny how this economy thing swings and it always happens at the end of a two term president...same thing happened to bill clinton...the economy was smoking up to his last year in office and bam, as he left office the economy tanked; additionally hurt by the 9/11 attack...so, we will be in for a rough ride for the next year or so...what has me worried is all this banking problems...the INDY-MAC bank failure has to be alarming to anyone even though FDIC has stepped in....now you have Freddie and Fannie (mortgage brokers) in financial trouble...the whole freaking congress and president have been asleep at the switch (except for ron paul)...we will regret the day when we went off the gold standard...we print money like it has no end in sight!...we need to reduce our foreign oil imports...lets freaking drill, drill, drill while we work on alternative energy sources...we have to start some where.
i diverse...finished.;)
Aztec, I wish I had taken a pic of what I did. The S1 comes with a sink for the VRM area> The S1 comes with a sink for that area on an X1950. Only problem is the bolt holes do not line up. But with the help of my trusty old Dewalt, a new hole did appear and there is now a sink on the five chips in question. I ran ATItool 3d app for over five minutes and the temps rose to 63c, which is a far cry from the low 80's with the stock cooler.
Well just ordered 2 more from Tankguys...we'll see what the Pro will do with it. I just couldn't find any 2x2 kits that I was enthused about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
When using 4x1 GB sticks, which bios settings (voltages) will change vs. my current 2x1?
Sounds good. Did you up the fan speeds?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pntgrd
Man this thread is amazing, 271 pages and still going. I just received a Q9550 yesterday and have it fired up in my IP35 Pro. I am going slow on this as it is my first 45nm chip and don't want to cook it. Here is where I am so far, this machine is a Kruncher running Boinc WCG: My plan is to get to 3.8 and run it there 24/7.
Computer:
Custom made test bench
Q9550 (Yorkie) vid =1.1375 (MX-2 TIM)
IP35 Pro-Bios v17.04b
2 x 1 Gb Corsair 6400 c4
evga 7600gt KO 256mb
Hitachi 160Gb 7200rpm
Samsung DVD
Watercooling:
D-Tek FuZion v1
D5 Vario @5
MCR320QP w/three 70cfm fans
Micro-Res
7/16 tubing
Settings:
Ambient: 24.4c
Vcore in bios: 1.41 Real (uGuru) = 1.34
Buss: 420
vMCH: 1.41
vICH: 1.09
Multi: 8.5
Core Speed: 3570
CPU VTT: 1.23
ICHIO: 1.55
Gtlref 0/2: 63
Gtlref 1/3: 63
PCI-E clock: 102
Memory:
tCL: 5
tRCD: 5
tRP: 5
tRASmin: 18
DDR2 volts: 1.90
DDR2 Ref: 0
The fans won't plug into the 4870 so you can't control them that way, but I have an idea that should be more than adequate. I have 2 Artic Cooling AF 12025 PWM fans I tried in push/pull in my TRUE. Even at high speed they are pretty quiet. I would guess they should handle the job quite well. I am going to have to change the fans in the side of my Stacker. I now have some orange bladed YL's and I need some more airflow onto the IP35-Pro. Even with the change in the coolingon the PMW area, and with a 40mm fan on it, it is still too hot for any summer o/c past 3600. It is a hard area to get any flow across as it sits right in the path of the TRUE exit and a 120mm exhaust fan, but below the airflow. I have some 3-speed Antec's I may experiment with so see if increasing the side intakes will help.Quote:
Originally Posted by aztec
anyone know why i only have sound coming out my left speaker?
i have the 2 jumpers set on pins 5-6 and 9-10 is this right for using HD Audio from the back panel? according to the manual putting jumpers on them pins disables the f/l audio panel right?
thanks, really annoying was fine when i was using the front panel.
can I trust the uguru software's measurement on vcore? BIOS is ~0.09V higher than uguru, so I'd like to just bump the BIOS up a little higher and go for 3.6 GHz on my G0 Q6600 L745A793, VID 1.2250 system in sig
is it worth updating from bios 14?
also, any suggestions for PWM cooling with a TRUE in the way and a stacker case? (besides a box fan :up:)
Where did you get that 9550 sig? The last 3 I've got were all rev C1 so I'm somewhat surprised to see a new C0. Do you have the batch #? Have you tried pushing it any more?
Still letting it set in while I play with the other rigs. It is ridding @3.5 for the moment. I plan on taking it up some more this weekend time permitting. But this is a Kruncher so I hate to have it down for long while I play. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by loonym
any update on the IP45 or IX48
need a new p45 board about to pull the trigger on an Asus Maximus II, but holding a bit longer to see the Abit p45 boards. Wish they would announce an expected date.
supposedly in the IP45 thread, it was said either the 1st or 2nd week of august.
Shouldn't review sites have samples by now if release is imminent? I think they would want to promote this as much as possible since they're already late to the party.
the AMI bios outside consultant might be still busy at work correcting the problems...they switched over to AMI from Phoenix bios
Is it possible to use the lower PCI express slot when the top one isnt in use? I need an answer asap!
Building a small form factor machine and I dont think I will be able to use the upper slot
Thanks guys
absolutely!...the speed will only be 4XQuote:
Originally Posted by conzymaher
noes!
Can it not give 16x to either slot? :(
P.s I think I can make it fit in the upper slot now :) but would be nice to have the option of using the bottom
Quote:
Originally Posted by conzymaher
primary slot was set to 16x and secondary slot was meant for 4x...but...your performance will probably be only 10% less at 4x versus 16x.
Even with a 4870?
Im just going to use the 16x slot and change my design ;)
don't know!...the only way to know is to run it in the 4x slot with benches and then run it in the 16x slot to see where it all shakes out.
I'm back needing a board for an E8400.
Do I go with another IP35 Pro? Tried and true...love both of mine.
These boards have any trouble with the E-series CPUs?
good luck finding another Pro board...you will have to upgrade to the XE version.
Yeah I noticed that.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813127050
they are unloading them...stupid idea from abit...should have stayed with the Pro model all the way!...it seems abit is having more difficulty in getting it right...there might be some truth about abit getting out of the mobo manufacturing.
Well, it is a Pro...but it's a Pro XE ;)
From the way you talk about it, you don't seem that impressed.
all they did was to add the 1600mhz system bus..at least that is my understanding...might have tweaked the board some...but they should have stayed with the top P35 board until it dried up...the IP35 Pro is a WINNER!..why fool with something else...keep making them until you come out with the IP45 or IX48...there is some talk that abit might release the IX38 DDR3 version...to me, it is STUPID unless it is dirt cheap!
Hi guys
plz let me out of this RTL ALC 888 Interface Issue
Mobo is Abit ip 35 pro with BIOS ID: 13
http://www.imgx.org/pthumbs/small/10363/RTL.jpg
Thanks nd Regards
go through the control panel and open up the "Speaker" icon...you should see the available devices and highlight the "Speakers" selection and then click on the "Properties" dialogue box in the lower right corner...from there, you have several tabs...it is in there.Quote:
Originally Posted by harmandeep
this has to be a mile marker for this thread to reach over one half million views...AMAZING!
I am here for a 24/7 machine ... I have only given the memory 2.05 through bios and just a clock up for the cpu. All the other voltages are default
Everything seems stable but once in a while Assasin's Creed crashes to the desktop .... i dont know if its the game or my overclock. Should I raise the volts on anything since the system feels and is in fact very stable if you take out the issue i just mentioned
Here is a screen
hi daytime dreamer...how's athens this time of the year...HOT!?;)
why don't you show your uguru settings so we can see what to tweak?
Link:Quote:
As of the end of July 2008, most of the Research and Development team have been laid off, and between 3-4 people from almost every engineering department from Quality Control to Field Application Engineers too. Everyone from the previous PM team who designed the likes of the MAX and Fatal1ty series that many enthusiasts grew to love have all moved on over the last year. There doesn’t seem to be much left of what was once a prosperous and productive team well worth recognition. Some of those PM members went to Biostar, and others went to Foxconn
http://www.tweaktown.com/news/9878/u...aff/index.html
Well this explains the delay in the P45. Looks like the writing is on the wall as far as Abit sticking around as an enthusiast motherboard manufacturer. I've been a fan since the BE6 II boards and I really hope they can recover.
I'm curious if the guys who went to Biostar worked on the P45 it's a kick ass board. Canning their RND is definitely not good.Quote:
Originally Posted by kadozer
i am thinking about jumping onboard with a Biostar Tpower IP45 board...i was getting the feeling that the thread i read months ago about abit pulling out of mobo making is sounding to be more true..it generally said the same thing in the above quote.
Do it Ace! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
pulling the trigger as we speak!:D
Its pretty hot as usual, every summer its hell here :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
Here you go with the Uguru settings
Ace,Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
You need to start a new thread on the Biostar TPower IP45 and educate us on the mods and tricks, just like this thread :D
Question:
I plan on adding my northbridge to my water loop with the EK NB5 waterblock, but I would like to keep the stock heatsinks on the SB and mosfets. Could I just dremel off the heatpipe that connects them, or would that be a bad idea? Any better ideas?
Thanks
Don't see why not, but you'll loose the benefit of having extra heat-sinking (is that a word?) of the heat. Less surface area = less heat dispersion. Adding a fan on the PWM would help out, but you might want to consider adding that to the WC loop if it heats up too much on you.
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/a...t/DSCN0361.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by lyl
Quick question. I flashed to the latest release bios for the ip35 pro, which is 17. Would a bios of 17b04 be newer or is that the last beta prior to releasing 17? Sorry if it seems like a stupid question, but I just want to know for sure :).
I noticed with 17, I get a lot more c1 errors with memory. Even with the recommended volate to the memory, the board is a bit fickle. I have tried this with 2 sets of memory, both listed as compatible here in the first post.
Flessan