RD600 first look and general questions

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02-27-2007, 07:17 PM
erwinz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kin Hell

Just as an example:

Memory clock Frequency: - Sync
Control CPU Frequency: - Manual
CPU Frequency Mhz: - 442
NB FSB Strapping: - 300
Memory Overclocking: - Disabled

should sit an E6600 2.4 with 442fsb & 7x Multi @ 3094Ghz with Ram @ 1:1. However, bandwith efficiency is cr4p for it, which suprises me! I am sure if my CPU was a better OC-er, I could get a 266 Strapping into the mix making it faster still. This kinda leads to where Tony advises this RD600 board with higher Multis, making an E6600 absolute minimum entry level to get any decent performance out of the board.

To get this far on the FSB, I was 1.48V on NB & she is Water cooled via a DD Block on a Double Rad single pump loop. Circa 37-40 Deg @ bios. Not stable here for long tho & that was using OCZ 9200 ram @ defualt timings 5-5-5-15?
After fighting with a Rev 505 BA2 over the last few days, looks like I'm keeping the RD600. Shame RD600 dont have the Marvel Raid controller. The Matrix is the fastest onboard Raid controller I have ever seen. :eek:

The unfortunate downside of the board for me is the terrible Raid. Promise blows & ATI sucks, making my Maxtors rattle & rumble. They wont last long, thats for sure. Maybe a 4K option in the Raid Bios would solve this?

yup yup.. I really hope DFI use the marvel raid conroller.. :)

I'm a raid user here.. but I didnt run any benches just yet.. I'm using the promise raid controller..
02-27-2007, 07:19 PM
erwinz

Quote:

Originally Posted by nealh

damn..my board is overvolting...1.42 bios=1.44 bios reading..windows reports 1.39 but I never trust win software readings

same on my board.. :) the bios reading is overvolt..

for me.. I can't trust the bios also.. hehhe hope DFI fix this.. :D
02-28-2007, 12:50 AM
marauder16

same thing here:
-bios set NB core: 1.48V
-bios read: 1.50V
-smart guardian: 1.45V
who would know...

and I'm having problems getting my 412*9 stable, every voltage now has enough, the cpu is on 1.55V, but windows reads 1.5V. I even lowered mem. freq. a little though it passes memtest 800%, I'll test it now, and see. I didn't manage to get stable at 401*9, it failed orthos after 4 and a half hours!!! I was pissed, but what can you do, I/ll try 412 know and see what I'll get
02-28-2007, 02:21 AM
erwinz

Quote:

Originally Posted by marauder16

same thing here:
-bios set NB core: 1.48V
-bios read: 1.50V
-smart guardian: 1.45V
who would know...

and I'm having problems getting my 412*9 stable, every voltage now has enough, the cpu is on 1.55V, but windows reads 1.5V. I even lowered mem. freq. a little though it passes memtest 800%, I'll test it now, and see. I didn't manage to get stable at 401*9, it failed orthos after 4 and a half hours!!! I was pissed, but what can you do, I/ll try 412 know and see what I'll get

mm.. I got nearly the same exp.. could you try my technique in fixing.. :) but i don't know if it will fix the proble.. :)

just remember your bios options.. and start from the cmos reset.. :) input your memory config.. then memtest it.. try not using the gtl option @ first.. because we all know that it is a bit tricky.. :)

start from a low OC.. maybe 300 or 350.. then work your way up.. :) maybe by 10 or by 5 fsb.. :) little by little.. :)

^_^ hope it works.. :)
02-28-2007, 02:52 AM
marauder16

Quote:

Originally Posted by erwinz

mm.. I got nearly the same exp.. could you try my technique in fixing.. :) but i don't know if it will fix the proble.. :)

just remember your bios options.. and start from the cmos reset.. :) input your memory config.. then memtest it.. try not using the gtl option @ first.. because we all know that it is a bit tricky.. :)

start from a low OC.. maybe 300 or 350.. then work your way up.. :) maybe by 10 or by 5 fsb.. :) little by little.. :)

^_^ hope it works.. :)

thnx, I'll try that way, to eliminate the components :) I wasn't using the GTL yet though... and that was dual orthos failing after 4 hrs, with load temp max 44C
EDIT: the other problem is that I don't know if my video card is causing some of the problems, I think it's faulty, I'll test stock settings again too, and see if I get a BSOD, that'll rule out the card...
02-28-2007, 04:37 AM
amandpm

I wrote DFI about bios etc and couple weeks latter got this below.

Dear User:
Thanks for sharing your opinion with us.
Here we do have a ICFX3200-T2R/G Beta BIOS, please click on the following link for more information regarding this Beta BIOS:
http://us.dfi.com.tw/Support/Downloa...FLAG=B&SITE=US

Best Regard,

Frankie Hsieh
02-28-2007, 05:06 AM
Ten

Anyone tested this? keep the updates commig then:) i may test this later on this evening.
02-28-2007, 05:37 AM
metalman2785

Can anyone boot from bios with 425x9? If so please post your settings.

I still can't seem to get much higher then 411x9 stable :(
02-28-2007, 06:15 AM
AbelJemka

Quote:

Originally Posted by amandpm

I wrote DFI about bios etc and couple weeks latter got this below.

Dear User:
Thanks for sharing your opinion with us.
Here we do have a ICFX3200-T2R/G Beta BIOS, please click on the following link for more information regarding this Beta BIOS:
http://us.dfi.com.tw/Support/Downloa...FLAG=B&SITE=US

Best Regard,

Frankie Hsieh

GG new bios from 07/02/22!!!
direct link http://us.dfi.com.tw/Upload/BIOS/R6T_041.zip
:woot:
02-28-2007, 07:57 AM
pcmoddingmy

Quote:

Originally Posted by AbelJemka

GG new bios from 07/02/22!!!
direct link http://us.dfi.com.tw/Upload/BIOS/R6T_041.zip
:woot:

Sweeeeeet... :woot:
But DFI's site is darn slow at the moment... Let's see what this BIOS can do.

Btw, anyone else getting better OC on DIMM 2&3?

Quote:

Date Code: 2007/02/22
Major Reasons of Change:
Improving Memory compatibility issue.
02-28-2007, 08:01 AM
cadaveca

yep to dimm 2&3. Coolaler did this as well....;)
02-28-2007, 08:04 AM
metalman2785

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadaveca

yep to dimm 2&3. Coolaler did this as well....;)

Dimm 2 and 3 improves memory clocks or FSB clock?

I will try this when I get home from work, I have been using the orange slots only so far...
02-28-2007, 08:22 AM
ante_ante

Which performs the best. Orange or yellow slots ?
02-28-2007, 08:46 AM
Mekrel

FFS, why do every single motherboard manufacturer use :banana::banana::banana::banana:e web servers?

Can't even down the drivers for my nlite CD. Could try Guru3D though.
02-28-2007, 08:50 AM
cadaveca

Quote:

Originally Posted by metalman2785

Dimm 2 and 3 improves memory clocks or FSB clock?

I will try this when I get home from work, I have been using the orange slots only so far...

try 2 inside slots. dunno why, but it's far more stable. this has nothing to do with RD600, and more to do with DDR2 controller, iMHO.

it's really dependant from board to board, imho...becasue the memory controller is on chiipset(silicon), quite naturally some channels are gonna be stronger than others...and some links within that channel as well.

Helps memclocks, when controller is limited.:fact:

:toast:
02-28-2007, 09:20 AM
nealh

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadaveca

try 2 inside slots. dunno why, but it's far more stable. this has nothing to do with RD600, and more to do with DDR2 controller, iMHO.

it's really dependant from board to board, imho...becasue the memory controller is on chiipset(silicon), quite naturally some channels are gonna be stronger than others...and some links within that channel as well.

Helps memclocks, when controller is limited.:fact:

:toast:

this is very interesting information that slots 2 and 3 maybe better...does bios report and change in vdimm using these 2 vs 2 yellow or 2 orange

I was one of the few with DFI SLI DR that found yellow slots worked better for me

I am going to switch slots from 2 orange to 2&3 and see if this does for me...thanks
02-28-2007, 09:26 AM
Kin Hell

Quote:

Originally Posted by metalman2785

Can anyone boot from bios with 425x9? If so please post your settings.

I still can't seem to get much higher then 411x9 stable :(

Your CPU is prolly crapping out....drop the multiplier. You might have to go to 7x - depends on the Strapping selected as well. According to your Sig, you're asking a 2.4 to do 3.7 which isn`t attainable with all E6600's. My 2.4ES Stepping 5 is good for 380 x 9 & I can push 400 x 9 but she wont bench. This is at stock Voltages for CPU & board so lots to tweak yet. Dont forget, you will retard this boards peformance by dropping the multiplier. Best OC I could get on BA2 v505 with OCZ PC9200 was 360fsb with my CPU & yet the Bench results were consumate with RD600 running 360fsb with crap 4300 ram @ 1:1. Putting the OCZ Async, best I could get was 540Mhz @ 2.4V with consumate Bench results as 260fsb 1:1. Needless to say, I had to RMA the Ram as it was a waste of £280. The ram needs a CPU with a bigger multiplier.
02-28-2007, 09:31 AM
nealh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kin Hell

Your CPU is prolly crapping out....drop the multiplier. You might have to go to 7x - depends on the Strapping selected as well. Your asking a 2.4 to do 3.7 which isn`t attainable with all E6600. My 2.4ES is good for 380 x 9 & I can push 400 x 9 but she wont bench. This is at stock Voltages for CPU & board so lots to tweak yet. Dont forget, you will retard this boards peformance by dropping the multiplier.

I did not know this
02-28-2007, 09:40 AM
cadaveca

AS i said, it depends on the chipset...sometimes different channels can go farther, just like a cpu. intel's chipsets allow for random-ordered dualchannel, and random dimm-configs, although there are some restrictions in this, mostly imposed by bioses, AFAIK.
02-28-2007, 09:57 AM
metalman2785

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kin Hell

Your CPU is prolly crapping out....drop the multiplier. You might have to go to 7x - depends on the Strapping selected as well. Your asking a 2.4 to do 3.7 which isn`t attainable with all E6600. My 2.4ES is good for 380 x 9 & I can push 400 x 9 but she wont bench. This is at stock Voltages for CPU & board so lots to tweak yet. Dont forget, you will retard this boards peformance by dropping the multiplier.

I tried lowering the multi to 8, but still could not boot with a FSB greater then 413. I just think the chip has more because I was able to use AMD overclocker to reach 3.9 and run spi 1M. Windows didn't crash till 4.0 ghz.
02-28-2007, 10:32 AM
marauder16

Quote:

Originally Posted by metalman2785

Can anyone boot from bios with 425x9? If so please post your settings.

I still can't seem to get much higher then 411x9 stable :(

How long is it stable for you? Mine fails dual orthos @ 400*9 at 1.45V after 4 and a half hours? can you post your detailed voltages/timmings for that 411*9 run? thnx
EDIT: try 434MHz FSB as Tony said the northbridge is the fastest at that freq. ;)
02-28-2007, 10:37 AM
The Nemesis

Quote:

Originally Posted by metalman2785

Can anyone boot from bios with 425x9? If so please post your settings.

I still can't seem to get much higher then 411x9 stable :(

I posted a thread with bios settings that proved stable. You could try some of them.:)
02-28-2007, 10:53 AM
pcmoddingmy

Yellow slots (2&4) gave me worst stability. Orange slots (1&3) were better, but my HyperX D9GKX seems to love DIMM 2&3 (Orange&Yellow).

As for FSB, I haven't pushed it on DIMM 2&3 yet but I guess it wouldn't affect the FSB. However, I had no problem running 472FSB on this board with my E6300. FYI, my E6300 seems to maxout at around 472FSB on almost all C2D mobo I've tested... So I think the RD600 should do better with another proc.

Btw, try bumping both "NB PLL 1.8V" and "NB Core 1.2V Convert From" to about 2.16V for higher FSB. I had to give about 1.7V to the "NB Core 1.2V " to run 472FSB.
02-28-2007, 11:24 AM
metalman2785

Quote:

Originally Posted by marauder16

How long is it stable for you? Mine fails dual orthos @ 400*9 at 1.45V after 4 and a half hours? can you post your detailed voltages/timmings for that 411*9 run? thnx
EDIT: try 434MHz FSB as Tony said the northbridge is the fastest at that freq. ;)

3.6ghz @ 1.36v is 100% stable

Settings for E6600, ORTHOS stable @ 3.6

CPU Freq - 401
CPU VID - 1.36875
CPU Special - 100.01%
CPU VTT - 1.36
NB Core - 1.36
NB PLL (1.8) - 1.93
NB PLL (1.2) - 1.38
NB PCI-E - 1.34
NB 1.2V convert from - 2.06
SB - 1.34

Crucial Anniversary @ 505 mhz

DDR2v - 2.3
Command - 1T
Timings - 4-4-4-4-18-24-42-3-6-3-2-3-2-2-5

For 411 FSB the only difference was NB @ 1.48v, NB PLL @ 2.13v and 1.45vcore. Crucial at 511 is same as 505 settings.

I don't know how long I will remain stable at these settings, orthos may fail after 4 hours or so, I just don't know yet. I do know I have been playing CSS and benchmarking for about 5 hours yesterday with these settings.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Nemesis

I posted a thread with bios settings that proved stable. You could try some of them.:)

Yes nice chart, I tried using your values but no luck :(
02-28-2007, 01:27 PM
nealh

Quote:

Originally Posted by marauder16

How long is it stable for you? Mine fails dual orthos @ 400*9 at 1.45V after 4 and a half hours? can you post your detailed voltages/timmings for that 411*9 run? thnx
EDIT: try 434MHz FSB as Tony said the northbridge is the fastest at that freq. ;)

I am pretty sure 464 was the highest performing fsb setting per Tony

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