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06-24-2005, 06:08 PM
nfm

Ok, v1.8 mod for sandiego, v1.8 mod and v1.36 mod has all been revised to version 2 :rocker:
Right now SIDEEFFECT need to upload those BIOSes from me and eventualy test them because I can't hotflash or restore my BIOS if something goes wrong. I need to contact SIDEEFFECT somehow. All BIOS feature same tweaks:

- Fixed divider issue, trc = 12 clks & trfc = 18 clks on all dividers
- Read Write Queue Bypass = 16x
- Bypass Max = 7x
- Idle Cycle Limit = 256 clks
- Max Async Latency = 8ns
- All hidden options are now available

Here are the names of files:

- 180NFM(Rev.2)1T.rar <------------- Mod BIOS w\ 1T Command Rate fixed for San Diego CPUs
- 180NFM(Rev.2).rar <------------- Mod BIOS
- 136NFM(Rev.2).rar <------------- Mod BIOS

Hang on people :)

http://www.swjka.com/k8nneo2bios/?dir=./need.for.mhz

@SIDEEFFECT, get rid of my Rev.1 BIOSes on your ftp and replace them with these
EDIT: All of them work great. Thanks STEvil for testing :)
06-24-2005, 07:55 PM
STEvil

tested them - they all worked.

lost some clocks on my OCZ PC4800 Platinums with TCC5 though.
06-24-2005, 08:05 PM
corruption

Quote:

Originally Posted by need.for.mhz

The 1.9B5 is still crappy, I had endless problem with it including no POST, other people on different forums reported same issues. When newer beta will come, and if it will be more stable, I will mod right away

I am still using the 1.9B5 bios. I initially had a no POST problem, but after shutting off the powersupply, resetting the CMOS, and removing the IDE cables from my HD (and power) I was able to boot. I have been running this bios for well over a week with no problems at all so far, aside from initially getting it to POST. I even managed to lower the voltage needed to maintain my OC while still being prime stable for over 24 hours. I can't control the multiplier in the bios (don't really need to though) and the voltage given to the cpu is .1v short, but voltages are otherwise stable. (1.7v selected in bios, 1.6v in windows with a multimeter) Can't wait for the final release! :clap: :woot:
06-24-2005, 08:08 PM
nfm

Thanks for testing them, good to hear they are working. I'm on 180NFM(Rev.2) right now. Works great :)

I have OCZ PC3200 rev.2 w\ TCC5, got them today. So far I'm stable at 289fsb, 2.5 HTT link (none of other work) but 2T, why? With 1T I go stable only up to ~ 240fsb. I already burned my sticks for 4 hours. I will leave it burnng for the whole night today. I also use agp volt of 1.55 which work best with memories. If I up it to v1.6 or v1.7 is memory becomes unstable so v1.55 is my sweet spot. CPU is completely stable too.Can this be caused by winnie's memory controller or by Neo2?

@STEvil, post screeny of A64 Tweaker along with CPU-Z with your highest stable memory clock

Quote:

lost some clocks on my OCZ PC4800 Platinums with TCC5 though

That's impossible. Memory optimizations that I patched BIOS with icrease overall overclock and stability. I gained 4~6 Mhz with my bios :) used v1.8F before. Check this out http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=57317
EDIT: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...948#post924948 oh i see
EDIT: OK, overnight mem burn-in helped a lot!! I'm at 275 fsb with 1T
06-24-2005, 09:00 PM
.: Eru :.

It's strange, but I cannot get into Windows using a different bios than 1.37mod.
Tried 1.41, 1.80 official, Tictac's 1.80 R2...all of them at stock speed, and cannot boot. It slows down when its starting to show boot logo...and freezes there.
Now I'm using 1.37Mod, and doing 270x10 1.55v, 6-3-3-2.5 1:1

My rig:
Neo2 & Venice 3200 LBBLE 0518APDW & XP120 & 2x 512MB PQI Turbo TCCD

Any advice? Thanks, of course.
06-24-2005, 09:33 PM
STEvil

gah.. cant even get 312 like I was before..

310 @ 2.5-4-3-10-13-15-2T 2.88v went though.. grudgingly.

Tictac's 1.8r2 bios with nothing else changed.
06-24-2005, 11:15 PM
nfm

Mod BIOS for High HTT memory

Hello again, another release :woot: This time just testing. I created this BIOS with a patch that helped me with my TCC5 overall stable, 1T overclock.
I just need anybody who can I apply these settings in A64 Tweaker and run system stable on these settings:

- trc = 12 clks
- trfc = 18 clk
- Read Write Queue Bypass = 16x
- Bypass Max = 7x
- Idle Cycle Limit = 256 clks
- Max Async Latency = 8ns
- trrd = 3 clks
- twr = 2 clks
- trwt = 2 clks (trtw in A64 Tweaker)

Can anybody test this BIOS out. If you be able to, can into to windows and then to A64 Tweaker to verify ^^^ those settings. Big thanks :toast:

180NFM(HH) <--------- HH stands for High HTT

http://www.swjka.com/k8nneo2bios/?dir=./need.for.mhz
06-25-2005, 01:30 AM
STEvil

tried 'em.. gain ~1mhz at best.
06-25-2005, 06:18 AM
sideeffect

K mate im adding your new bios files to the page :)

All files added now
06-25-2005, 06:57 AM
CD 1986

Sideeffect - did you add the high HTT versions? I can't see them on the site.
06-25-2005, 06:59 AM
sideeffect

I think i added the high htt version. In the 1.80 folder but not sure. Labelled 180NFMpatch.rar look at readme is that the right version.

Shall i call it high HTT instead of patch?

lol im confused which is which NFM email me or msn and ill send u ftp so you can put it how you like

robertwillmin@hotmail.com

http://www.swjka.com/k8nneo2bios/?dir=./need.for.mhz

edit = ok i found the High Htt bios and added it on in 1.80 folder. Will there be a high Htt version for san diego ?
06-25-2005, 07:17 AM
nfm

the 180NFMpatch.rar is the one for high HTT, just rename it to "180NFM(HH)" sideeffect :) same think with readme.

EDIT: In 'HH" edition I want more tweaks, so Rev.2 is coming anyway
I need to know which DQS Skew mode brings more stability, off, slower or faster. Also Refresh Rate, I think 166Mhz 1.95us would be best
06-25-2005, 07:20 AM
Kriller

I use 1.36b for the %vcore thingies, is there any new bios where this work? i need 1,66v 24/7 :)
06-25-2005, 07:21 AM
raydelee

to the master at XS,
wat is the best bios to go with Tmsp UTT
06-25-2005, 07:23 AM
nfm

Quote:

Originally Posted by raydelee

to the master at XS,
wat is the best bios to go with Tmsp UTT

grab 180NFM(Rev.2).rar. you may also try 136NFM(Rev.2).rar ;)

Quote:

I use 1.36b for the %vcore thingies, is there any new bios where this work? i need 1,66v 24/7

Taken from my Readme from v1.36 bios

Quote:

- Based on v1.3B6 BIOS that allows up to 18.3% VID, activated by MSI's BIOS writers.

v1.36 is only BIOS that allows insanely high voltage. In other BIOS when you try it to enable to it will just default to v1.55 vcore :(
06-25-2005, 07:25 AM
CD 1986

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kriller

I use 1.36b for the %vcore thingies, is there any new bios where this work? i need 1,66v 24/7 :)

Nope, none so far. The new 1.9 might go that high once officially released though. :)
06-25-2005, 07:29 AM
Kriller

Well, just haveto wait then :(
06-25-2005, 07:32 AM
sideeffect

ok i changed name hopefully its ok now :slap:
06-25-2005, 07:39 AM
nfm

Quote:

Originally Posted by sideeffect

ok i changed name hopefully its ok now :slap:

It's ok

Quote:

edit = ok i found the High Htt bios and added it on in 1.80 folder. Will there be a high Htt version for san diego ?

When Rev.2 of it comes out, I probably make one for San Diego
06-25-2005, 07:48 AM
Blinkme323

NFM, I am trying your new bioses now. For some reason-even on modded bioses-I can't boot with the 166 divider. 200 is fine up to 240. And 133 lets me go as high as I want (180 now). I would like to use the 166 divider to slighly overclock my memory rather than underclock it. Is it a problem with my bios, cpu, memory, or motherboard. Also, what is a safe voltage for a 3000 wini on stock cooling.
06-25-2005, 08:10 AM
CD 1986

For 24/7 use, don't go above 1.60v on stock cooling. It might run ok at 1.65v but then you run a higher risk of damaging the chip.
06-25-2005, 08:13 AM
Kriller

Quote:

Originally Posted by CD 1986

For 24/7 use, don't go above 1.60v on stock cooling. It might run ok at 1.65v but then you run a higher risk of damaging the chip.

I have my watercooling that cools my cpu down to 40c idle and 48full, 1,66v 2,7ghz...
06-25-2005, 08:19 AM
sideeffect

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blinkme323

NFM, I am trying your new bioses now. For some reason-even on modded bioses-I can't boot with the 166 divider. 200 is fine up to 240. And 133 lets me go as high as I want (180 now). I would like to use the 166 divider to slighly overclock my memory rather than underclock it. Is it a problem with my bios, cpu, memory, or motherboard. Also, what is a safe voltage for a 3000 wini on stock cooling.

Stock cooling probably shouldnt go to high on vcore maybe 1.6 max and watch your temperature and make sure the bios is showing the correct temperature.

Maybe replace the stock fan with a 80 mm for better cooling. The 166 issue I have as well and not sure what it is either. Try using another mutiplier for the cpu that forces a different multiplier for the ram and might help.

I attached a 120mm fan blowing over the memory sockets and all those resistors and chips at the top of the motherboard and it helped my htt overclock. And I attached a heatsink to the chip in between the ide cables and nforce chip which seems to get really hot, think that helped as i get better overclocks now.
06-25-2005, 08:20 AM
CD 1986

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kriller

I have my watercooling that cools my cpu down to 40c idle and 48full, 1,66v 2,7ghz...

Water isn't exactly stock cooling. ;)
06-25-2005, 08:22 AM
sideeffect

Is vapochill counted as stock cooling :D

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