The Fermi Thread - Part 3

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03-25-2010, 04:48 AM
zalbard

Quote:

Originally Posted by Behemot

It's cardboard launch as was obvious from month ago

Fixed! :D
03-25-2010, 04:50 AM
MrDiaz

So hey... if the NDA is lifted on the 26th, is that going to be EST time or what? Cause technically we can get reviews today starting at 12pm EST from the other side of the world!
03-25-2010, 04:50 AM
h0bbes

IF it is indeed delayed, then i feel like nvidia is manipulating the consumer. I am pretty sure they knew the proper launch date (april 12th now?), but they instead said it would be released earlier so that more people would wait for it instead of getting an ATI card for example. Even if these are just rumours (but they do end up becoming true), its better for nvidia to spread rumours than making official announcements about each fictional launch date. Even if they were honestly planning to release it earlier but failed, it doesnt make the situation any better. I really hope Fermi is a good card (or at least not a "failure") but there is no need to treat us like idiots.
03-25-2010, 04:51 AM
ajaidev

PST i guess
03-25-2010, 05:09 AM
K404

Well.... NDA could lift today at 2pm. nVidia might be playing the released to retail card here, to separate NDA from availability. No-one is expecting good availability for weeks, so if release is postponed, the no-mans land of "available" Vs actually BEING available is shorter... which looks less bad, just a shame that most people spell F-E-R-M-I as D-E-L-A-Y no-one matter how is played or spun.

ALL SPECULATION
03-25-2010, 05:11 AM
WeeMaan

Sweclockers (swedish forum / news site) claims their review will be up 1 minute past midnight tonight if I recall correctly.
Thats 9h from now.
03-25-2010, 05:16 AM
annihilat0r

480 can't be 625mhz or anything, if it was it would be practically indistinguishable from 470.
03-25-2010, 05:19 AM
Tim

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenTiger

Charlie:
*snip

Beats me!

:ROTF: :ROTF: :rofl:
03-25-2010, 05:20 AM
ajaidev

Quote:

Originally Posted by annihilat0r

480 can't be 625mhz or anything, if it was it would be practically indistinguishable from 470.

Why 480 has 480 shaders also it has greater no of other units as well....
03-25-2010, 05:23 AM
annihilat0r

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajaidev

Why 480 has 480 shaders also it has greater no of other units as well....

Which, if everything was linear (which it isn't) would make a 7% better card than 470, which is impossible.

About availability. One week after launch was OK and even "standard practice" but two weeks is a lot, plus whatever changed in the BIOS and the cooler probably won't be reflected in the reviews which have already been written.
03-25-2010, 05:24 AM
onethreehill

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Originally Posted by fellix

Overclocked GTX470 run in 3DMark Vantage, incl. all feature tests.
http://hardwarebg.com/forum/showpost...postcount=3410

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.p...postcount=4931
03-25-2010, 05:35 AM
K404

That cant be right, can it? Its overclocked and the score is total gash
03-25-2010, 05:36 AM
saaya

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arxagelos

12 april? this is very disappointing. They ask as if we are "ready", we are ready but it seems they are not and who knows where ever they will be.

check my sig...
its getting old and i had hoped to change it in a day or two, but it seems ill have to use it for a few more weeks... :rolleyes:

Quote:

Originally Posted by h0bbes

IF it is indeed delayed, then i feel like nvidia is manipulating the consumer.

nvidia manipulating the consumer??? gez man! get a grip! they have done no such thing and never will! :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by onethreehill

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.p...postcount=4931

isnt that with physix?
03-25-2010, 05:40 AM
gurusan

hmm I get over 12500 GPU pts on an overclocked 4890 with an E8400 :/ So this means an overclocked 470 is only around 30% faster than a 4890? :/

seems pretty trash to me
03-25-2010, 05:44 AM
mindfury

Quote:

Originally Posted by saaya

isnt that with physix?

Of course,over 50k cpu score cant be posssible without gpu physX...
03-25-2010, 05:46 AM
annihilat0r

Quote:

Originally Posted by K404

That cant be right, can it? Its overclocked and the score is total gash

Vantage and Crysis seem to be the worst apps for Fermi.
03-25-2010, 05:46 AM
Blacky

Wouldn't be surprise if tomorrow I see a lot of sad faces or some going emo and /wrist because of disappointing...not saying I know what results are going to be, but I don't expect a miracle either from what we seen so far.
03-25-2010, 05:47 AM
Arxagelos

gpu score 16645 with overclock? I think my 295 does about 18000 points default. Maybe the overclock isn't very hi in 470.
03-25-2010, 05:52 AM
japamd

Quote:

Originally Posted by annihilat0r

Vantage and Crysis seem to be the worst apps for Fermi.

As opposed of G200 :confused:

But that P-score is about 33% higher than the score posted by jared a few pages ago (14992)
03-25-2010, 05:52 AM
Musho

Quote:

Originally Posted by annihilat0r

Vantage and Crysis seem to be the worst apps for Fermi.

So funny, ATI is dominating in Vantage and Crysis, which used to run way better in nVidia hardware, while nVidia is dominating in DIRT and Battleforge, which are "ATI's" games. :p:
03-25-2010, 05:52 AM
Musho

Quote:

Originally Posted by japamd

As opposed of G200 :confused:

But that P-score is about 33% higher than the score posted by jared a few pages ago (14992)

Because he used Physx in this run, I think. Not sure if he used it in the previous run as well, haven't seen that screenshot.
03-25-2010, 05:54 AM
gurusan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Musho

Because he used Physx in this run, I think. Not sure if he used it in the previous run as well, haven't seen that screenshot.

Physx doesn't do anything to the pscore i don't think. I could be mistaken though?
03-25-2010, 05:55 AM
Musho

Quote:

Originally Posted by gurusan

Physx doesn't do anything to the pscore i don't think. I could be mistaken though?

I doesn't? Oh, my mistake then. I always thought it did, and that that was the reason they banned Physx enabled results from the ORB.
03-25-2010, 06:01 AM
Dahmer

Quote:

Originally Posted by gurusan

Physx doesn't do anything to the pscore i don't think. I could be mistaken though?

Pretty sure it adds a couple thousand...

@Musho :
banned from orb? don't you mean banned from hwbot?
03-25-2010, 06:01 AM
japamd

Quote:

Originally Posted by Musho

So funny, ATI is dominating in Vantage and Crysis, which used to run way better in nVidia hardware, while nVidia is dominating in DIRT and Battleforge, which are "ATI's" games. :p:

The end of the world is approaching... get ready :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Musho

Because he used Physx in this run, I think. Not sure if he used it in the previous run as well, haven't seen that screenshot.

You're right, previous scores are way too low to have physx enabled.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gurusan

Physx doesn't do anything to the pscore i don't think. I could be mistaken though?

It indeed does change a lot.

No physx
http://i39.tinypic.com/n2od2a.jpg

Physx On
http://i43.tinypic.com/s6lxrr.jpg

GPU score is higher on first image, but P-score is lower due to physx.

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