Asrock P67 Extreme4 UEFI & Drivers thread [Extreme6 & Pro3 owners welcome]

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07-21-2011, 06:31 AM
BranFB

You know that p95 blend is not maxing out the temps.
Try LinX AVX max memory and then :)
07-21-2011, 07:07 AM
BDM123

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ket

Can you increase short and long power duration limits to 150 and increase "Long Duration Maintained" to 5? If I'm remembering correctly how the new intel turbo boost works it fluctuates up and down all the time based on load and the maximum turbo speed (in your case, 3.7GHz) will never be maintained longer than 1 second with default power duration and long duration maintained settings.

Ok Ket. Did exactly that. Default the short & long term duration limits were at 203 and 180. I left them there and changed the duration maint to 5. Tested no change. Then I changed the Short & long to 150. Still no change.

Brian
07-21-2011, 07:25 AM
Tunagoblin

Quote:

Originally Posted by BranFB

You know that p95 blend is not maxing out the temps.
Try LinX AVX max memory and then :)

I know that is why I'm doing Prime instead of LinX for the initial test.
As of this moment LinX gives me 95c in 1.2 sec. lol
But I'm in the process of lowering the temp.
And last night I made it about 8-10c lower and kept stable for 30min or so. (didn't have enough time, it was late last night night...)
I'll try some more later tonight and I think I can get there and try LinX if it's successful after prime run.
07-21-2011, 09:10 AM
Ket

Quote:

Originally Posted by BDM123

Ok Ket. Did exactly that. Default the short & long term duration limits were at 203 and 180. I left them there and changed the duration maint to 5. Tested no change. Then I changed the Short & long to 150. Still no change.

Brian

Alright I'll bring it up in a few days, probably going to be offline for that long while I backup the data on my laptop and format it (old install, its got slow and decrepid :p: )
07-21-2011, 09:29 AM
BDM123

Ket appreciate the effort ;) You've done plenty for ASRock owners. Again it really doesn't bother me since I don't run a stock system anyhow. The current hardware does quite a nice job. But for someone who plugs & plays on a default/stock system, it will effect them. Especially if they compare it to another competing board at default settings. I also asked the 3rd person I know with the same board to perform the same test. I'll report back my finding on that also.

Brian
07-21-2011, 01:19 PM
BDM123

Update. The third guy I spoke of also had the same results. He is also using v1.80 UEFI and loaded all default settings and a 2500K.
07-21-2011, 01:37 PM
BranFB

I'm with 2600K 1.4v for 4.8GHz and it reaches 85c with LinX and Megahalems revB with CM Excalibur x1.
So basiclly good look with that kind of voltage.

So what was it.
Is 1.9BIOS not OK. and you are going back to 1.8 ?
07-21-2011, 10:02 PM
Tunagoblin

As I said on the previous post, I couldn't actually make the temp down to 85c but I got it down to 87c with 1600 Ram speed.
But I got to 5.0 with 1866, though.
I ran HCI memtest and tested all Ram. (7GB+)
Also showing other voltage settings on the screenshots.
This is ONLY 1hour of Prime95 Blend test btw.
But as you can see... there is still NO WAY to run IBT nor LinX w/AVX....
It'll probably give me :explode2: in 4 sec.... -_-

i5 5.0 @ 1.464(Load) 1866 9-10-9-28 1T @ 1.650
Max temp @ 92c :shock2:
http://preview.filesonic.com/img/27/....thumbnail.jpg http://preview.filesonic.com/img/0d/....thumbnail.jpg http://preview.filesonic.com/img/f9/....thumbnail.jpg

I got my RAM to run 1600 stable with a bit lower voltage and temp.
Of course it's still hot but I'm NOT even thinking about running this 24/7...

i5 5.0@ 1.464(Load) 1600 8-8-8-24 1T @ 1.620
Max temp @ 87c :eh:
http://preview.filesonic.com/img/f9/....thumbnail.jpg http://preview.filesonic.com/img/51/....thumbnail.jpg
07-22-2011, 01:51 AM
radier

I don't think you need 1,832V on CPU PLL Voltage. Default value on ASRock mobos is too much. 1,709V will be ok as it has no reall impact on CPU stability even way above 5GHz.

BR,
07-22-2011, 05:21 AM
Tunagoblin

Quote:

Originally Posted by radier

I don't think you need 1,832V on CPU PLL Voltage. Default value on ASRock mobos is too much. 1,709V will be ok as it has no reall impact on CPU stability even way above 5GHz.

BR,

I thought so in the first place.
But No. I NEED 1.832V. I've tested every voltage setting and this is the lowest that I can put on all the voltages.
(I've tested many times I'm 100% positive about this.)
I've noted before but somehow this board (or my particular chip) needs 1.832 and even one notch below gives me BSOD (above 4.8GHz)
Lots of other MB set up, and people even put it at 1.709v (in fact, at 4.6 w/1600 RAM, I can set it at 1.709) and won't affect the stability but mine does affect big time.
Every system works differently I guess.

Anyway, it is surprising that my 5 year old 4 rail x 18 amps 700w OCZ PSU still works like a charm with modern set up.
As long as I keep it single GPU, 700W is enough I guess even with 8 fans and 4HDD.
07-22-2011, 07:18 AM
CikaNovo

Tunagoblin,

I would really appreciate if you could share your UEFI settings for 4,8 and 5,0 ghz
I've tried many different combinations of settings and I can't get any real stability past 4,5 ghz.

Thanks
07-22-2011, 08:24 AM
Tunagoblin

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CikaNovo

Tunagoblin,

I would really appreciate if you could share your UEFI settings for 4,8 and 5,0 ghz
I've tried many different combinations of settings and I can't get any real stability past 4,5 ghz.

Thanks

As we all know, no systems work the same way.
So they are going to be just the reference.

Even though I can get to 5.0, it's just for the sake of "It can get there."
So by any means, this isn't for realistic use for me since it gets too hot.

4.8 is stable with HCI memtest, LinX (All, 3mb 20+ runs), Prime95 (22hours).

Also I manually put "additional turbo voltage" to +0.004.
It compensates for vdrop and voltage won't keep moving around or going higher like when it's set to "Auto".
Seems like this and LLC @ level2 is working well together for my system.
It makes the idle voltage higher since I'm on fixed voltage.
Also the additional turbo voltage makes the idle voltage a bit higher.
Which actually prevents getting too much of vdroop when intensive load.
But at the same time, LLC is there to prevent any unwanted voltage spike damaging the chip.
So finding the good combination I guess...

As for the CPU advanced setting and RAM timings setting, both 4.8 and 5.0 are the same so I only put 1 of each.

Attachment 118069

RAM Settings

Attachment 118066
Attachment 118067

4.8GHz @ 1.385 (UEFI) 1.384 (Load)
1866 9-10-9-28 1T @ 1.575 (1.560 in the pic but I need 1.575)

Attachment 118070
Attachment 118071
Attachment 118072

5.0GHz @ 1.470 (UEFI) 1.464 (Load)
1866 9-10-9-28 1T @ 1.575

Attachment 118074
Attachment 118075
Attachment 118068
07-22-2011, 09:30 AM
CikaNovo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tunagoblin

Got it. I'll take SS of both 4.8 and 5.0 UEFI.
I'll update it shortly...But as we all know, no systems work the same way.
So they are going to be just the reference.

Even though I can get to 5.0, it's just for the sake of "It can get there."
So by any means, this isn't for realistic use for me since it gets too hot.

I agree that no configuration is the same, and I plan to use it as a reference to see if it will get me anywhere (aiming for 4,8).
Thanks again for your help.
07-22-2011, 09:44 AM
mean6

Quote:

Originally Posted by mean6

I have tried it on multiple hdd's. Even if the file originates on my ssd raid array, when I extract it to the same array, it takes longer. The only other difference from my old system to my current system is that I had 6 gig of ram as compared with 4 gig on my Sandybridge set up. Would that be the difference? Has anybody else noticed this?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ket

D14 is also £90 odd, thats stupid money. £80 is as well, really, no CPU cooler should cost more than about £45 if its just a air cooled solution nomatter how exotic the design such as these "liquid CPU coolers".

For larger archives it would make some difference, otherwise nothing noticable. If I remember right, compressing my 2GB Stalker SoC mod takes about 5 mins with 7zip using ultra compression. The resulting archive is about 850MB and takes around 1min 30secs to extract.

Problem solved. Upgraded to 8 gig of ram, now everything flies. Hope this helps someone else too!
07-22-2011, 10:57 AM
radier

These are mine 5GHz settings:
http://minus.com/mvbFnm7
07-22-2011, 12:02 PM
CikaNovo

Quote:

Originally Posted by radier

These are mine 5GHz settings:
http://minus.com/mvbFnm7

I've seen your settings earlier in the thread, but my 2500K is not nearly as good as yours.
I need +0.140 offset voltage at Level 4 to boot at 5ghz, and it was far from being stable even at that voltage.
07-23-2011, 04:28 AM
Tunagoblin

Quote:

Originally Posted by CikaNovo

I've seen your settings earlier in the thread, but my 2500K is not nearly as good as yours.
I need +0.140 offset voltage at Level 4 to boot at 5ghz, and it was far from being stable even at that voltage.

Even mediocre chip like mine can even get to 5Ghz (not for practical use, though....).
So Cika needed to see mine. :p:
My chip could be a good one IF the core#1 and 2 wouldn't heat up this much.... thus I have a mediocre chip.
07-23-2011, 09:38 AM
CikaNovo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tunagoblin

Even mediocre chip like mine can even get to 5Ghz (not for practical use, though....).
So Cika needed to see mine. :p:
My chip could be a good one IF the core#1 and 2 wouldn't heat up this much.... thus I have a mediocre chip.

Yes, exactly :) . I needed to see what these mediocre chips can do
07-23-2011, 10:26 AM
BranFB

Chips are doing very well under water.
Mine's now under Thermochill 240 with 2xGT1850 fans pull
And it's doing fine @5GHz 1.44v for security (1.425 stable ... but for an hour or so) an it reaches 65 max with AVX
Soon screenshots... as my HDD got stolen from my girlfriend for her project... so the PC is not functioning right now except for Ubuntu tests :)

Will test soon more.
Got my patriots from default 1.65v down to 1.5v with tighten timings 9-10-9-24... yes :)
07-23-2011, 01:56 PM
Tunagoblin

A guy from Overclock.net told me my RAM shouldn't need 1.65v to run 1866@5.0GHz.
Since he had the exact same RAM running 1.50v with same timing as mine, 9-10-9-28 1T.
I tried it it 1.50 with same timings and it made HCImemtest.:up:
Also done some LinX run @4.8GHz and gave me constant healthy 130+GFlops on all RAM.
So I guess I was overvolting the RAM....
Now it made my temp go down about 3,4c.:clap:
I'll do Prime run next.

*Sorry...forgot to open the most important tab, Memory tab... but the timings are the same..

http://preview.filesonic.com/img/74/69/f0/2396411.jpg
07-23-2011, 03:26 PM
Ket

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tunagoblin

As I said on the previous post, I couldn't actually make the temp down to 85c but I got it down to 87c with 1600 Ram speed.
But I got to 5.0 with 1866, though.
I ran HCI memtest and tested all Ram. (7GB+)
Also showing other voltage settings on the screenshots.
This is ONLY 1hour of Prime95 Blend test btw.
But as you can see... there is still NO WAY to run IBT nor LinX w/AVX....
It'll probably give me :explode2: in 4 sec.... -_-

i5 5.0 @ 1.464(Load) 1866 9-10-9-28 1T @ 1.650
Max temp @ 92c :shock2:
http://preview.filesonic.com/img/27/....thumbnail.jpg http://preview.filesonic.com/img/0d/....thumbnail.jpg http://preview.filesonic.com/img/f9/....thumbnail.jpg

I got my RAM to run 1600 stable with a bit lower voltage and temp.
Of course it's still hot but I'm NOT even thinking about running this 24/7...

i5 5.0@ 1.464(Load) 1600 8-8-8-24 1T @ 1.620
Max temp @ 87c :eh:
http://preview.filesonic.com/img/f9/....thumbnail.jpg http://preview.filesonic.com/img/51/....thumbnail.jpg

AVX will only work if you have Win 7 SP1 installed.
07-23-2011, 03:53 PM
Tunagoblin

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ket

AVX will only work if you have Win 7 SP1 installed.

I know. I've been doing that up to 4.8GHz. Since at 5GHz, as I said on the post, My CPU gets to 98c with LinX w/AVX.
That is why I can't run it at 5.0 :(
I was hoping to make my RAM run lower voltage but Prime95 is giving me problem...
Even all the ram passed fine with HCImemest.
Bringing up VTT one notch gave me worse.
I'm turning up VRAM voltage back up now till I get no BSOD.
see if it's really the RAM giving me BSOD...
Since it passes fine with 1.650v.
07-23-2011, 04:03 PM
Ket

You could try relaxing tRRD from 6>7, and tFAW from 28>33. Shouldn't have any noticable performance impact, just help get high RAM clocks stable with lower voltage.
07-23-2011, 04:33 PM
Tunagoblin

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ket

You could try relaxing tRRD from 6>7, and tFAW from 28>33. Shouldn't have any noticable performance impact, just help get high RAM clocks stable with lower voltage.

Cool :up:
I'll try that after I'm finding out what the minimum voltage to run this RAM at the timings I have.
It'll be a good comparison.
I guess my RAM is mediocre also.
Some people can run the same RAM at 1866@1.5v@5GHz+.
Gee... I guess I have to get into those other RAM timings....
Thanks Ket!

Update:
So I found that I need at least 1.590 dram voltage to make at least 1hr prime stable.
It made my max temp down 4c :yepp: or say... a bit better than 92c... :(
Now I'll try what Ket told me and see h ow that goes.

http://www.overclock.net/attachments...66-1.590-prime
07-23-2011, 05:34 PM
BranFB

Try lowering VTT with 1.5v
1.051 probably.
And check that again.

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