The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

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Originally Posted by zlojack

Here's what I used:
Bios settings:

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 266
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1128
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 60
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
Then the extra sub-timings for the Rampage: 14-5-1-6-6
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled(tried Enable no diffrence)
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate/Strong
Performance Level : 7 (I had it at 6 for FSB at 425 + 1133MHz RAM on my QX9650, but for 450 it had to go to 7)
All pull-ins disabled.

These settings were pretty decent and stable, but I hadn't really played with them enough in terms of tightening timings to squeeze a bit more out of the sticks.

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Thanks:up:

Will give me something to play with while I'm off work tomorrow, seems I'm ( cough cough) getting sick:rofl:

LOL...yeah... I might be getting a cold sometime next week after my new chip arrives :D

any info - new bios for MR.406 ?

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Originally Posted by zlojack

Here's what I used:
Bios settings:

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 266
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1128
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 60
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
Then the extra sub-timings for the Rampage: 14-5-1-6-6
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled(tried Enable no diffrence)
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate/Strong
Performance Level : 7 (I had it at 6 for FSB at 425 + 1133MHz RAM on my QX9650, but for 450 it had to go to 7)
All pull-ins disabled.

These settings were pretty decent and stable, but I hadn't really played with them enough in terms of tightening timings to squeeze a bit more out of the sticks.

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Tried those settings with my system dident even pass loading screen, and I have pretty much a veyr alike system like u, diffrence beeing 1 less pair of rams(should only improve) and using a Q9450 insteed that is basicly the same cpu as yours but with a lower multiplier so I dont get it why i dont get it stable I copied your settings should I turn something off in cpu condifuration I have pretty much all on enable

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Originally Posted by AquaRelliux

Tried those settings with my system dident even pass loading screen, and I have pretty much a veyr alike system like u, diffrence beeing 1 less pair of rams(should only improve) and using a Q9450 insteed that is basicly the same cpu as yours but with a lower multiplier so I dont get it why i dont get it stable I copied your settings should I turn something off in cpu condifuration I have pretty much all on enable

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That's strange, man. I've got those settings running right now. What volts are you using on your RAM and NB? I'm at 1.59 vNB and 2.0 vram.

Of course, with RAM you never know. I might have got lucky with my sticks (because I sure have had a hell of a time with CPUs!:shakes:)

I think it actually may be your PSU giving you problems. 3 hard drives, 2 vid cards, liquid cooling, fans, etc... might be taxing for the 580w

PS also try running with one vid card if you think it might be the modded one.

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Originally Posted by AquaRelliux

Hello

I just swapped my 4x1gb Ballistix PC8500 ram to 2x2gb Dominator PC8500 ram to fix my system hang problems. But it still dident slove it I always get 1 crash when the system hangs and I need to force reboot no bsod nothing like that just freeze screen. I have been trying 1 millon settings and still no go I having the feeling that it might be a good idea to get a X48 moderboard but I am not sure. Always after 1 hang it runs fine horus after that the system is:

Q9450@3600mhz 1.23v(100% prime blend and small ffts stable even tryied OCCT ran smooth for 2 hours) max temp around 50c with realtemp it is watercooled.
Asus maximus X38 modded to rampage 0403 bios
2x2gb Dominator PC8500 ram
2x Powercolor 3870s in crossfire only one with modded bios might this be it?, both run @850/1271 and I always get the damn atikmdag problem in same games.
Tagan Easycon 580watt PSU should be enough I heard alot of times.
3x hdds, 1x velociraptor 300gb, 1x 500gb WD sata, 1x 250gb WD sata
1x Samsung Dvd recorder

Bios settings:

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 103(tried 100-110 not diffrence over 110 and it dosent boot)
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1081
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 4
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 60
Write Recovery Time : 4
Read to Precharge Time : 4

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled(tried Enable no diffrence)
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : 7 (tried alot of other settings but only boots in 7 otherwise blackscreen)

CPU Voltage : 1.23785v(1.23v load) (tried up to 1.3 no diffrence)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.5v
North Bridge Voltage : 1.59v(tried from 1.4v-1.65 no diffrence)
DRAM Voltage : 2.04(2.1v real) (tried 1.90v and that makes the system completly unstable)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.36v(Everest and bios says 1.26v so it should be fine or should I not trust Everest and bios?)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.5v
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto(tried 0.63x but crashed on windows vista boot logo)
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x( Tried alot of diffrent but still crashing)
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5v

NB LED Selection : FSBT Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Plz anyone got any ideas är should I just sell the crap and by a P5Q that seems really good, plz guys I am getting crazy here and I dont really have the money to buy a new mobo, also forgott to mention both gfx and NB is watercooled max NB temp os around 40c max load and gfx around 45c load?

//Aqua

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Originally Posted by Grnfinger

Well now I have a 8400 running on MF bios 1102 temps are very good and acurate 30c idle and 55c load 478x9@1.40vCore. Everest and coretemp both read the temps correctly. Asus anal probe is crap, if you have an older version of everest it will read them wrong. Version 4.50.1330 is very acurate for 45nm cpu's, coretemp can be adjusted to the proper tjmax by editing the settings file tjmaxoffset= ( add whatever value )

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So in your opinion I might be able to use lower vCore with my E8400 if I use the MF1102 over the RF401 bios? For some reason I just couldn't get the RF403 bios to work stable with my E8400 SLAPL. My vCore is at 1.40v now @ 445x9 with the RF401 flash.

I've got an Asus Maximus Formula@Rampage and, connected to the six SATA ports, a DVD-RW, 4 Raptor (10000 RPM) configured as Raid-0 and another Raptor-X as storage.
When i copy from or to this last Raptor the PC always hang and i have to reboot manually.
Could it be that the sata controller has been saturated with this high I/O?
The other components are
Seasonic M12 700w
Q6600@3Ghx
2x1GB+2x512MB OCZ
Supreme FX sound card
Peak HD3870

thanks for yuor help!!

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Originally Posted by boombastic

Could it be that the sata controller has been saturated with this high I/O?

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Highly doubtful. I have a RAID0, RAID5, 1TB storage drive. I experience no issues copying files with Vista SP1.

1. My first suspicion would be something to do with the SATA DVDRW. Unplug it, try the copy.
2. Ensure the Raptor X cable is not loose.
3. Try a different cable.
4. Try a different SATA port.

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Originally Posted by boombastic

I've got an Asus Maximus Formula@Rampage and, connected to the six SATA ports, a DVD-RW, 4 Raptor (10000 RPM) configured as Raid-0 and another Raptor-X as storage.
When i copy from or to this last Raptor the PC always hang and i have to reboot manually.
Could it be that the sata controller has been saturated with this high I/O?
The other components are
Seasonic M12 700w
Q6600@3Ghx
2x1GB+2x512MB OCZ
Supreme FX sound card
Peak HD3870

thanks for yuor help!!

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My first suspicion is that your system is NOT stable, as in, it is probably not a hardware issue, but a stability issue. Post your bios settings, I'm sure some ich/fsbt/vnb tweaks will fix that.

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Originally Posted by Sources

I think it actually may be your PSU giving you problems. 3 hard drives, 2 vid cards, liquid cooling, fans, etc... might be taxing for the 580w

PS also try running with one vid card if you think it might be the modded one.

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I dont think so actually 3870 dont use that much power at all

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Originally Posted by Zucker2k

My first suspicion is that your system is NOT stable

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I made the assumption he was running at stock. Bad assumption. ;)

The system has been stable even with a FSB of 380 Mhz with my previous config. (2xRaptor Raid-0 and the same Optical Drive), anyway i tried this:

1)change sata cable: no
2)unplug DVD-RW: no

could i t be that the controller doesn't like bot a Non Raid Disk and 4 Raid disks?

Anyway my bios config is at the moment (but i also tried with 266 FSB):

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 333
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 800
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 4
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 45
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
Then the extra sub-timings for the Rampage: 14-5-1-5-5
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
Ai Clock Twister : AUTO
Performance Level : AUTO
All pull-ins disabled
CPU Voltage : 1.4875v
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.6v
North Bridge Voltage : 1.47v
DRAM Voltage : 1.90v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.46v
South Bridge Voltage : 1.075v
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5v

NB LED Selection : FSBT Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

I realised temps were causing a problem for me, my NB was blisteringly hot underload @ 62c and the Southbridge was not much better, so I decided to take the heatsink off while I was refilling and maintaining my water loop. I've never noticed a drastic improvement from replacing stock TIMs on NB's from other boards so was slightly sceptical, but after re-applying with Ceramique I took more than 10c off my NB temps and the SB temps dropped significantly too.:cool:

So, the drops in temps gave me more confidence to get a little more adventurous with the voltages and I've made a little progress here, switched to 5:6 divider and pushed FSB a little further. CPU needs 1.48v for 3.75Ghz prime stabel and ~1.53v to hit 3.8 Prime stable with load temps not exceeding 67c.:up:

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q...FFA22/3800.png

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Originally Posted by boombastic

could i t be that the controller doesn't like bot a Non Raid Disk and 4 Raid disks?

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No, as I stated previously, I have a similar setup to yours.

I would configure the machine back to stock/auto values and see if you experience the same behavior.

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Originally Posted by yobi

any info - new bios for MR.406 ?

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I'm about to try it out
lets see if tref has been adjusted

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Originally Posted by Grnfinger

I'm about to try it out
lets see if tref has been adjusted

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I'm interested in this as well....

406 is extremely unstable for my setup, 2 random bsod while testing with everest and superPI, 1 bsod while trying to post to the forum.
Cant report on tref settings I could not make that far into everest, many errors when Vista loaded, anitvirus stopped working, logitech G-15 stoftware stopped responding, hell cpuz would not load.
I do not like RF406!
Best to date for bandwidth is 308 imo, 403 is very stable and I have zero complaints other than the changed tref setting.
MF1102 is rather decent and is spot on with RF403 for performance, atleast with my hardware.
I have tested a E8400, Q6600 and a Q6700, running 2x1GBs(Corsair) and 2x2GBs(GSkill) and I can say with exception to boot times (Rampage is faster) MF1102 & RF403 are nearly identical.

Might be my Hynix bios, I'll give it a go. Link?

EDIT Nevermind, last page.

Ok first I must retract my previous post.
Seems to much beer has clouded my judgment. In my bios settings for 406 I had incorrect ram voltage wich caused my instability.:stick:
So I will retest it once I grab another beverage and report back.:toast2:


Update

Tref is still set at 3120.
I cannot see / feel a difference from 403, if I didnt know 406 was loaded I wouldnt be able to tell any difference, altho Vista does seems to have a more "fluid" feel to it.

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Originally Posted by Sources

I think it actually may be your PSU giving you problems. 3 hard drives, 2 vid cards, liquid cooling, fans, etc... might be taxing for the 580w

PS also try running with one vid card if you think it might be the modded one.

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It sems like puttign 2.1v on ram solved it 100% stable now it should have crashed if it was like befire but it hasent thx for the advice Grnfinger :)

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Originally Posted by Grnfinger

Ok first I must retract my previous post.
Seems to much beer has clouded my judgment. In my bios settings for 406 I had incorrect ram voltage wich caused my instability.:stick:
So I will retest it once I grab another beverage and report back.:toast2:


Update

Tref is still set at 3120.
I cannot see / feel a difference from 403, if I didnt know 406 was loaded I wouldnt be able to tell any difference, altho Vista does seems to have a more "fluid" feel to it.

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So really they only changed tREF?

What was the difference between 0308 and 0403 on tREF? Does it make that much of a difference?

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Originally Posted by zlojack

So really they only changed tREF?

What was the difference between 0308 and 0403 on tREF? Does it make that much of a difference?

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Well the tREF on 0308 is 16383T which is faster than any of the bios' afterwards including 0406 (3120). Since you cannot change this option in the bios, stick with 0308 for more bandwidth unless you are having issues with your ram as the looser tREF setting of 3120 "may" help. :)

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Originally Posted by theonlybabyface

Well the tREF on 0308 is 16383T which is faster than any of the bios' afterwards including 0406 (3120). Since you cannot change this option in the bios, stick with 0308 for more bandwidth unless you are having issues with your ram as the looser tREF setting of 3120 "may" help. :)

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Thanks:up:

My RAM was perfectly fine at 1122 MHz on 0308, so I think I'll flash back and see what difference it makes.

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Originally Posted by Grnfinger

Ok first I must retract my previous post.
Seems to much beer has clouded my judgment. In my bios settings for 406 I had incorrect ram voltage wich caused my instability.:stick:
So I will retest it once I grab another beverage and report back.:toast2:


Update

Tref is still set at 3120.
I cannot see / feel a difference from 403, if I didnt know 406 was loaded I wouldnt be able to tell any difference, altho Vista does seems to have a more "fluid" feel to it.

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Was the beer glass empty when you wrote that? :)

Could you tell me MAX bench voltages for:

PLL
NB
FSB
SATA voltage
DDR2 REF Voltages?

Is there any issues w/ mounting the Thermalright ULTRA 120 EXTREME on my new Asus Maximus Formula SE X38 ?
Thanks

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Originally Posted by msarp

Is there any issues w/ mounting the Thermalright ULTRA 120 EXTREME on my new Asus Maximus Formula SE X38 ?
Thanks

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Nope.

thanks!!!

I started having reboot problems, where this motherboard started in a non-stop reboot sequence. Pushing the clear cmos button did nothing. I had to remove the cmos battery to get it to stop.

Is there a fix for this?

And does the Rampage bios have this same problem?

Its rather ridiculous that such an expensive board would have a problem like this. I'm currently running the 1201 bios.

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Originally Posted by tc17

I started having reboot problems, where this motherboard started in a non-stop reboot sequence. Pushing the clear cmos button did nothing. I had to remove the cmos battery to get it to stop.

Is there a fix for this?

And does the Rampage bios have this same problem?

Its rather ridiculous that such an expensive board would have a problem like this. I'm currently running the 1201 bios.

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And you've come to the conclusion that this problem is the board how? It could be a setting, or an incompatible piece of hardware causing this issue, given that the rest of us are NOT having this issue, it's hard to point fingers at the board.........

Hi,
I've just built me a new system: Rampage Formula and a QX9770. The system works fine and I wanted to overclock it a little bit, so I set the multiplier from 8.0 to 9.0 and Prime 95 ran for 10h without a single error. But when I switch my PC completely off (I switch the PSU off) and bott again I get the followin error:
"Error! The CPU to Bus ratio or VID configuration has failed"
I can then change the BIOS settings via F1 or load defaults with F2. If I choose F1 and change nothing the system boots properly and runs perfectly.
And the strange thing is: If i shutdown my PC and don't switch off my PSU this error does not occur. When I restart Vista the error does not occur, too.
The error also occurs if I just set the multiplier to 8, 7 or even 6 (but with "Auto" (=8) the error does not occur).
That's really strange, isn't it?
I use BIOS version 406 (but I already testet 403, 401 and 308) and have no idea what I can do to solve this problem.
I have seen that others here in this thread have the same issue. Here http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=4693 it is sait that the error occurs when all memory slots are used - I use 4x2GB of memory but I also tried just to use one slot with 2GB of memory and the error still occurs.
I also tried to increase the core voltage up to 1,35 but this did not help either. Can anybody help me?
Thanks in advance

//Edit: Here are the other components of my pc:
Board: Rampage Formula (Bios 0406)
CPU: QX9770
Memory:4 x 2GB OCZ Platinum XTC DIMM Kit 4GB PC2-8000U CL5-5-5-15 @2,1V
HDD: 1x WD VelociRaptor, 2x WD Caviar SE16 640GB @ Raid 0
GPU: Powercolor HD4870
PSU: Amacrox Freestyle 750W
CPU-fan: Noctua NH-U12P (with 2 fans in push-pull)
Further I have 5 other case fans in my Cosmos S 1000 but I didn't connect a fan to the "PWR"-connector on the board because in another forum I read that this can cause problems, too.

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Originally Posted by OVERK|LL

And you've come to the conclusion that this problem is the board how? It could be a setting, or an incompatible piece of hardware causing this issue, given that the rest of us are NOT having this issue, it's hard to point fingers at the board.........

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Because in the past I have read posts from many other people who HAVE had this problem. I guess you speak for everyone huh?

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Originally Posted by tc17

Because in the past I have read posts from many other people who HAVE had this problem. I guess you speak for everyone huh?

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With this board in particular? I simply don't recall reading that in this thread. If I'm wrong, my apologies.

Have you tried the basic "swap parts" out and see if it fixes it?

so hasn't the rampage extreme just come out?? if so wouldnt a maximus extreme to rampage extreme conversion work?? I'll be the gunea pig if someone will get me a file with everything needed on it so I can just extract it to a usb drive and go to town, hook me up guys, these maximus extreme bios really suck and are seriously limiting my overclocks I know my E8500 has way more in it!

well, i just got my mobo back from rma. giving it a quick run through right now :D

w00t! now to rma my dfi :(

Having a problem when i´m trying to unpack a dvd for example. It takes 7min 30s for a 4,3gb file. Doesn´t think it would take so long. what could be the problem ?? Running Vista X64

Turbo, are you running SP1 for x64 Vista? It increases file xfer rates tremendously.

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Originally Posted by Turbodream

Having a problem when i´m trying to unpack a dvd for example. It takes 7min 30s for a 4,3gb file. Doesn´t think it would take so long. what could be the problem ?? Running Vista X64

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I had the same problem with Vista 64bit, the latest chipset drivers solved the problem for me, you should give them a try.

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Originally Posted by Grnfinger

I had the same problem with Vista 64bit, the latest chipset drivers solved the problem for me, you should give them a try.

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Yes i have sp1. And which is the latest chipset driver then ?

well, im having troubles now benching at 545fsb :rofl:
rampage modded it straight away :P

i will get a 5.1ghz bench in tonight no matter what !

*edit*
also should i be worried that setting lowest available 1.5ppl results in 1.61?

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Originally Posted by ZenEffect

well, im having troubles now benching at 545fsb :rofl:
rampage modded it straight away :P

i will get a 5.1ghz bench in tonight no matter what !

*edit*
also should i be worried that setting lowest available 1.5ppl results in 1.61?

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I think 1.70+ is cause for concern

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Originally Posted by Turbodream

Yes i have sp1. And which is the latest chipset driver then ?

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I have a link but I'm not at my pc right now I will post it shortly for you if you still need it.

Here you can find the latest chipset-drivers:
http://www.station-drivers.com/page/intel%20chipset.htm

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Originally Posted by [IO]Mechti

Hi,
I've just built me a new system: Rampage Formula and a QX9770. The system works fine and I wanted to overclock it a little bit, so I set the multiplier from 8.0 to 9.0 and Prime 95 ran for 10h without a single error. But when I switch my PC completely off (I switch the PSU off) and bott again I get the followin error:
"Error! The CPU to Bus ratio or VID configuration has failed"
I can then change the BIOS settings via F1 or load defaults with F2. If I choose F1 and change nothing the system boots properly and runs perfectly.
And the strange thing is: If i shutdown my PC and don't switch off my PSU this error does not occur. When I restart Vista the error does not occur, too.
The error also occurs if I just set the multiplier to 8, 7 or even 6 (but with "Auto" (=8) the error does not occur).
That's really strange, isn't it?
I use BIOS version 406 (but I already testet 403, 401 and 308) and have no idea what I can do to solve this problem.
I have seen that others here in this thread have the same issue. Here http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=4693 it is sait that the error occurs when all memory slots are used - I use 4x2GB of memory but I also tried just to use one slot with 2GB of memory and the error still occurs.
I also tried to increase the core voltage up to 1,35 but this did not help either. Can anybody help me?
Thanks in advance

//Edit: Here are the other components of my pc:
Board: Rampage Formula (Bios 0406)
CPU: QX9770
Memory:4 x 2GB OCZ Platinum XTC DIMM Kit 4GB PC2-8000U CL5-5-5-15 @2,1V
HDD: 1x WD VelociRaptor, 2x WD Caviar SE16 640GB @ Raid 0
GPU: Powercolor HD4870
PSU: Amacrox Freestyle 750W
CPU-fan: Noctua NH-U12P (with 2 fans in push-pull)
Further I have 5 other case fans in my Cosmos S 1000 but I didn't connect a fan to the "PWR"-connector on the board because in another forum I read that this can cause problems, too.

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I have the same issue the Asus P5E when I have any type of overclock.

works fine but gives me the same error on bootup. bypass the error or go into bios and its fine.

not every time though. really odd.

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Originally Posted by Grnfinger

I think 1.70+ is cause for concern

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for 45nm cpu? i thought 1.54 was supposed to be about the max. this new maximus is overvolting like crazy... .1 for dram... .03 for nb... .11 for ppl... im just glad the fsb tops out at 550 on this one.

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Originally Posted by ZenEffect

for 45nm cpu? i thought 1.54 was supposed to be about the max. this new maximus is overvolting like crazy... .1 for dram... .03 for nb... .11 for ppl... im just glad the fsb tops out at 550 on this one.

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Sorry I was thinking you were running your Quad 65nm, I do believe that 45nm is 1.50 but I do not have my pc handy atm so I cannot verify that.

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Originally Posted by [IO]Mechti

Here you can find the latest chipset-drivers:
http://www.station-drivers.com/page/intel%20chipset.htm

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Thank you:up:

What do these do in the BIOS:

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Light
Transaction Booster : Disabled
-Relax Level 0

Thanks for any advice :)

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Originally Posted by MonsterDK

What do these do in the BIOS:

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Light
Transaction Booster : Disabled
-Relax Level 0

Thanks for any advice :)

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those are for memory tweaking. im not exactly sure how dram static read control and ai clock twister work but transaction booster is your "performance level"

Anyone using 2x1 crucial tracers either the 8000 or 8500 variant?

I have the older single sided D9's but I can't get them to boot.

If you do, what bios are you using? I'm on the 1201. Thanks!

Hi,

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Originally Posted by Grnfinger

I had the same problem with Vista 64bit, the latest chipset drivers solved the problem for me, you should give them a try.

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I just saw that you have a raid0 and I can tell you that the Intel Matrix Storage Manager increased my performance of my raid hdds greatly.
You can find the latest drivers here http://www.station-drivers.com/page/intel%20raid.htm
bye

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Originally Posted by philbrown23

so hasn't the rampage extreme just come out?? if so wouldnt a maximus extreme to rampage extreme conversion work?? I'll be the gunea pig if someone will get me a file with everything needed on it so I can just extract it to a usb drive and go to town, hook me up guys, these maximus extreme bios really suck and are seriously limiting my overclocks I know my E8500 has way more in it!

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honestly... no. the difference in pwm will not allow you to cross flash. asus figured out what we were doing and put a stop to it.

how much are you being limited?

my maximus i can bench @ 5ghz w/ my e8500

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...2976/95757.jpg

last night's run... zero tweaks. (ram @ auto)

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Originally Posted by [IO]Mechti

Hi,

I just saw that you have a raid0 and I can tell you that the Intel Matrix Storage Manager increased my performance of my raid hdds greatly.
You can find the latest drivers here http://www.station-drivers.com/page/intel%20raid.htm
bye

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Yes thank you for that handy tip, if you would care to read the whole post next time that would be great:shakes:

Does anyone know the voltage measuring points, vdimm vcore etc...?

i'd like to measure the voltages rather than use the bios or hw monitor.

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Originally Posted by ZenEffect

honestly... no. the difference in pwm will not allow you to cross flash. asus figured out what we were doing and put a stop to it.

how much are you being limited?

my maximus i can bench @ 5ghz w/ my e8500

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...2976/95757.jpg

last night's run... zero tweaks. (ram @ auto)

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That's a nice chip you got there Zen. Is that on water? I got 2xHD 4850s in crossfire, doing 22K in '06 with a Q9450 @ 3.8.

Hey guys I just got the E8400 and I just wanna know what the max or stable clock you guys can get the E8400 on this board with air cooling? Just wondering since I don't know it's worth the hassle of swapping the CPU. Do you think I'll get better benching and gaming performance going from Q6600 to E8400?

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Originally Posted by Zucker2k

That's a nice chip you got there Zen. Is that on water? I got 2xHD 4850s in crossfire, doing 22K in '06 with a Q9450 @ 3.8.

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phase change :cool:

i can get 22k in 06 w/ 2900pros and e8500 @ 5ghz :p:

I was wondering who here has a Asus Maximus Formula and has managed to find their lowest Q6600 Vcore and PLL?

On a 3.6 OC

Water cooled. (including north)
Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2x1GB) DDR2 PC2-8500C5 1066MHz (air cooled)
Q6600

Can anyone advise me on anything better for settings?
I'm aiming for lower Voltages (where possible) and where also possible better performance without raising CPU FSB.

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1066
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.3875
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.41
DRAM Voltage : 2.10
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.26
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : Disabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled

Hello to all, I mounted today maximus formula and I have big problems in oc.
The cpu is e7200 already tested on p5bdeluxe to 400x9.5 = 3800mhz. The rams are 2x1gb G.skill cas4, tested well up to 1020 mhz on p5bdeluxe. The bios of maximus formula is 1201.

Well, with the divisor set to 1:1 the system easily climb up to FSB = 397 (x9.5). More than that, the mobo does not boot. The only way to make it boot is to set the 3:4 divider, then FSB = 400, Ram = 1066. I have not tried yet stability in oc, but only the operation of mobo to boot. With the 4:3 divider mobo boots with no problems to 450, then ram in 1133. Clearly not even load the OS and gives me a nice Bsod, since the Rams can go so high, but at least boots! I want to understand why the motherboard does not boot with the 1:1 divider, beyond FSB=397.
Could it be a 1201 bios problem?

One more problem is that in the bios the "OC From CPU Level Up" is missing.
Thx in advance for your help.

RF0403 Rocks

I tried removing the NB/SB heat sink by putting the mobo in the refrigerator freezer. It stayed there for about 2 hours and 45 minutes and I after that I could not remove the HS with "any real force".

What would you suggest - placing the mobo for another freeze session, buy the circuitcity freeze spray or try the hair dryer?

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Originally Posted by dasc

I tried removing the NB/SB heat sink by putting the mobo in the refrigerator freezer. It stayed there for about 2 hours and 45 minutes and I after that I could not remove the HS with "any real force".

What would you suggest - placing the mobo for another freeze session, buy the circuitcity freeze spray or try the hair dryer?

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Make sure all the pins are removed:D

I left mine in the freezer overnight. In the morning it popped off no problem.

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Originally Posted by zlojack

Make sure all the pins are removed:D

I left mine in the freezer overnight. In the morning it popped off no problem.

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I removed 4 pins from the NB and 2 from the SB. Are there any other?

My main cencern is that the low temperature decreases the life span of the mobo.

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Originally Posted by dasc

I removed 4 pins from the NB and 2 from the SB. Are there any other?

My main cencern is that the low temperature decreases the life span of the mobo.

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I can't remember if there are more. Look on the backside of the motherboard for any pins coming through.

Also, low temps decreasing the lifespan? I hadn't heard about that. It might do so, but mine is working just fine several months later.

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Originally Posted by zlojack

I left mine in the freezer overnight. In the morning it popped off no problem.

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You have mighty big minerals to throw the board in the freezer for a long period of time. Arbitrarily decided on 80m in the fridge and using the blue ram slot as a fulcrum, popped off with no issue. My first fridge was a disaster, resulting in the death of 1 x PCIe slot and an eventual RMA. Glad to hear of your success tho. :up:

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Originally Posted by chawks2

You have mighty big minerals to throw the board in the freezer for a long period of time. Arbitrarily decided on 80m in the fridge and using the blue ram slot as a fulcrum, popped off with no issue. My first fridge was a disaster, resulting in the death of 1 x PCIe slot and an eventual RMA. Glad to hear of your success tho. :up:

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Probably my n00bness in effect then.:D

I mean, a freezer isn't THAT cold. I wouldn't think it would adversely affect the board that much, but I've been known to be VERY wrong in the past.

I asked my gf to put the mobo in the freezer at 14:15 and when I got home around 18:00 I will give it another try.

Can someone define "real force"? There is not much space left around the SB as there are two compacitors on the opposite sides of heat sink? How am I supposed to move it?

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Originally Posted by chawks2

You have mighty big minerals to throw the board in the freezer for a long period of time. Arbitrarily decided on 80m in the fridge and using the blue ram slot as a fulcrum, popped off with no issue. My first fridge was a disaster, resulting in the death of 1 x PCIe slot and an eventual RMA. Glad to hear of your success tho. :up:

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According to C'DaleRider:
There are even companies that'll cryogenically freeze your electronics....supposed to align the molecular structure in all the metal to give better performance. Heard they do a lot of car parts for racing, too. (Pistons, rings, valves, metal brake rotors, etc. All for enhanced performance.)

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Originally Posted by dasc

According to C'DaleRider:
There are even companies that'll cryogenically freeze your electronics....Heard they do a lot of car parts for racing, too. (Pistons, rings, valves, metal brake rotors, etc. All for enhanced performance.)

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I dont believe comparing a motherboard to solid parts in a car is an effective analogy, JMO.

@ zlo, nothing wrong with what you did, just commenting on the length of time. Bottomline it worked for you and you can shed the shroud of n00bness. :D

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Originally Posted by chawks2

I dont believe comparing a motherboard to solid parts in a car is an effective analogy, JMO.

@ zlo, nothing wrong with what you did, just commenting on the length of time. Bottomline it worked for you and you can shed the shroud of n00bness. :D

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I would have to agree with you on that one. I really cant see how comparing a motherboard to a rotor, and exactly how would freezing a rotor improve performance?

Zoljack, what version of Corsair ram do you have?
PM me if you want to part out with the other 4GBs, this GSkill kit sucks ass cant get them over 1081 and that took ALOT of work, this has to be the :banana::banana::banana::banana:tiest kit of ram I ever had

Ok.. I'm getting stable with the E8400 at 4.2GHz (9 hours Small FFTs)

I flashed back to 0308 and there is definitely a bandwidth improvement.

Both with 5-5-5-15-tRFC 60 - tRD 7 (Twister Moderate)

Here's where I was with 0403:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...2x2GBE8400.png

And now with 0308:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...deratetRD7.png

Now here's the same settings with Twister Stronger (gains in read and copy)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ongertRD72.png

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Originally Posted by Grnfinger

Zoljack, what version of Corsair ram do you have?
PM me if you want to part out with the other 4GBs, this GSkill kit sucks ass cant get them over 1081 and that took ALOT of work, this has to be the :banana::banana::banana::banana:tiest kit of ram I ever had

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The Dominators TWIN2X4096-8500C5DF 4GB PC2-8500. I've had the Mushkin Redlines, the G.Skills PC2-8000, the ReaperX PC2-8000 and these ones have been the best of the lot. 8GB stable at 1133MHz at the settings listed above (now at 1122MHz and passed Memtest86+).

I'll PM you. ;)

I am officially a n00b.

Do you think the mobo will work? :)

Is that a piece of the die missing or some leftover TIM? It's not really clear in the pic. If you pulled out a piece of the die then the mobo is cooked. If there's no damage to the NB you should be able to put it back together.

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Originally Posted by dasc

I am officially a n00b.

Do you think the mobo will work? :)

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wth are you talking about.
would be helpfull if you explained what you did.. cuz those pictures dont show anything..

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Originally Posted by shimmishim

Anyone using 2x1 crucial tracers either the 8000 or 8500 variant?

I have the older single sided D9's but I can't get them to boot.

If you do, what bios are you using? I'm on the 1201. Thanks!

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shim - i have ran the 8000 and 8500 single sided sets in my mobo and both booted fine without any issues.

but,, i didnt reset my settings, i think i was still on 2.0v or maybe 2.1,, but it definately was not 2.2v

USE THE WHITE RAM SLOTS

reset the bios totally, just wipe it clean,, then try and run them see what happens.


also in regards to your voltage measure points.

i have not seen anyone post much about this although this board has been out for a while so there is probably a post somewhere.

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Originally Posted by Lestat

wth are you talking about.
would be helpfull if you explained what you did.. cuz those pictures dont show anything..

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I put too much force and I opened the NB. The pictures show the upper piece of the die attached to the heat sink. It is weird that TIM used between the chip and die was dry and fragile. It was not making good contact with the NB chip. I applied some Artic Silver and put back the heat sink.

I just finished putting everything back in the case and the mobo can not post - I am getting a "CPU init" message on the LCD monitor.

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Originally Posted by Lestat

shim - i have ran the 8000 and 8500 single sided sets in my mobo and both booted fine without any issues.

but,, i didnt reset my settings, i think i was still on 2.0v or maybe 2.1,, but it definately was not 2.2v

USE THE WHITE RAM SLOTS

reset the bios totally, just wipe it clean,, then try and run them see what happens.


also in regards to your voltage measure points.

i have not seen anyone post much about this although this board has been out for a while so there is probably a post somewhere.

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Awesome. Will give it a shot... again.

I've searched google for it but can't find the measuring point. It obviously exists since it's been measured. It would have been nice if the OP had marked the measuring points in the first post.

Allright, I found minimum voltages for my 515x7 1:1 settings with 1102 now and here they are:

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BIOS 1102
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
-Ratio CMOS Setting : 7
FSB Frequency : 515
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100

DRAM Frequency: 1030
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 5
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 15
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Disabled
-Relax Level 1

CPU Voltage : 1.33750 1.320VCPU-z
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.31 1.33V Everest
DRAM Voltage : 1.90 1.94V Everest
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.20 1.22V Everest
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050 1.06V Everest
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Disabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

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http://www.abload.de/thumb/non-se1102515x71030rsww.pnghttp://www.abload.de/thumb/1102515x7333strap103zsw.pnghttp://www.abload.de/thumb/cachemembios1102515xue4.png

E6750, 2x 2GB G.Skill GBPK (1066), Maximus Formula

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Originally Posted by dasc

I put too much force and I opened the NB. The pictures show the upper piece of the die attached to the heat sink. It is weird that TIM used between the chip and die was dry and fragile. It was not making good contact with the NB chip. I applied some Artic Silver and put back the heat sink.

I just finished putting everything back in the case and the mobo can not post - I am getting a "CPU init" message on the LCD monitor.

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Wow, you pulled off the NB IHS!!!:eek:

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Originally Posted by zlojack

Wow, you pulled off the NB IHS!!!:eek:

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And some piece of NB's silicon :(

Not silicon, but he crushed the substrate holding the silicon. That's one dead board. Should have used DIMM slots as fulcrum.

I used the Blue DIMM slot as Fulcrum and a piece of plastic from the cpu side. The heat sink was attached to the die so strong after more than 4 hours in the freezer.

I used real force with a screw-driver and a toothbrush from blue DIMM and I saw around 1/5 of the NB green pvc/pins detaching from the board. I thought the mobo will still work, but I was wrong. I wrapped the screwdriver around paper tower and I stick it between the green PVC and lower side the chip. I twisted the screwdriver and I saw some movement. I put some force on all sides the die came off attached to the heatsink.

I cleaned and reapplied the new TIM and put everything back, but the motherboard was already dead. When I start it up, it powers all the fans, but I only get "CPU INIT" on LCD and the lights on the ballistix tracers are not moving.

Do you think ASUS will send me a replacement?

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Originally Posted by cadaveca

Not silicon, but he crushed the substrate holding the silicon. That's one dead board. Should have used DIMM slots as fulcrum.

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Originally Posted by dasc

Do you think ASUS will send me a replacement?

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Doubtful, but it doesn't hurt to try. It's not working anyway.

Are they actually going to investigate like remove the heat sink and stuff? I bad thing is that I left 3 scratches on the green pvc.

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Originally Posted by zlojack

Doubtful, but it doesn't hurt to try. It's not working anyway.

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Quote:

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Originally Posted by dasc

I used the Blue DIMM slot as Fulcrum and a piece of plastic from the cpu side. The heat sink was attached to the die so strong after more than 4 hours in the freezer.

I used real force with a screw-driver and a toothbrush from blue DIMM and I saw around 1/5 of the NB green pvc/pins detaching from the board. I thought the mobo will still work, but I was wrong. I wrapped the screwdriver around paper tower and I stick it between the green PVC and lower side the chip. I twisted the screwdriver and I saw some movement. I put some force on all sides the die came off attached to the heatsink.

I cleaned and reapplied the new TIM and put everything back, but the motherboard was already dead. When I start it up, it powers all the fans, but I only get "CPU INIT" on LCD and the lights on the ballistix tracers are not moving.

Do you think ASUS will send me a replacement?

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I wouldn't blame them if they don't. They didn't send you a defective board, and it definitely didn't die a manufacturing-related death.

Good luck though!

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Originally Posted by zlojack

Ok.. I'm getting stable with the E8400 at 4.2GHz (9 hours Small FFTs)

I flashed back to 0308 and there is definitely a bandwidth improvement.

Both with 5-5-5-15-tRFC 60 - tRD 7 (Twister Moderate)

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4300MHz 1147ram with Dram static enabled, twister strong, PL7

This is Maximus 1102 bios

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...00_1147ram.png

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Originally Posted by dasc

Do you think ASUS will send me a replacement?

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I hope not. You broke it knowing full well what you were doing. Man up and eat it. making everyone else pay is lame.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by MonsterDK

I was wondering who here has a Asus Maximus Formula and has managed to find their lowest Q6600 Vcore and PLL?

On a 3.6 OC

Water cooled. (including north)
Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2x1GB) DDR2 PC2-8500C5 1066MHz (air cooled)
Q6600

Can anyone advise me on anything better for settings?
I'm aiming for lower Voltages (where possible) and where also possible better performance without raising CPU FSB.

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1066
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.3875
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.41
DRAM Voltage : 2.10
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.26
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : Disabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled

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Can anyone please help me with the quoted above. I'll be very much greatful.

You guys have any recommendations for a 2x2GB set that works fine with this board? It seems the OCing capability is limited due to 4x1GB sticks. :(

I thought you guys were on my side!?

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Originally Posted by MonsterDK

Can anyone please help me with the quoted above. I'll be very much greatful.

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We are, but you screwed it up. Not saying I've never been there, but I got a collection of dead parts to remind me to be cautious.


BTW, I was the one who originally meantioned freezing the board to remove the heatsink. It worked a treat for me. I noticed that my RMA board was frozen when I got it(was still winter here, board had condensation on it), and it came off with ease.

Now, today I had the chance to play with another board, and IT was much harder to remove than my first, but still it just popped right off.

Mind you both time, the board had not been run for very long, allowing the tim to set.

Mind you, in the end, my boards are SE's, not the regular boards, so that might have something to do with it...

I just dumped Vista SP1 and installed XP pro for the first time on my MF. I have an unknown device identified as "on Intel(R) ICH9R LPC Interface Controller - 2916". All of the add on devices are installed and working properly (unlike on Vista). I downloaded the Intel chipset install utility, the soundmax drivers, Intel matrix manager for my raid HDs, etc. I have not loaded the Asus drivers from the CD. This device has to be something on the motherboard not recognized by XP. Can someone shed any light on what this could be?

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Originally Posted by ZenEffect

honestly... no. the difference in pwm will not allow you to cross flash. asus figured out what we were doing and put a stop to it.

how much are you being limited?

my maximus i can bench @ 5ghz w/ my e8500

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...2976/95757.jpg

last night's run... zero tweaks. (ram @ auto)

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what bios are you using? no tweaks at all? mine will hit 4.7ghz but wil only bench at 4.5ghz and it's flaky then, and I have to put the voltage right to it.

I used mine for about 6 months and I freezed it twice for 3 and 4-5 hours. If I ever get a replacement, the first thing I am going to do is to put it the freezer.

I am going to place an order for ASUS P5Q Deluxe this weekend, so I will have something to play with(without trying to remove the heatsink). P5Q Deluxe has only two fan connector which I don't like.

Newegg has XIGMATEK HDT-S1283 120mm for $26.99 after $10.00 Mail-In
Rebate + FS. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835233003. Does some know if it fits P5Q Deluxe and miximus formula?

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Originally Posted by cadaveca

We are, but you screwed it up. Not saying I've never been there, but I got a collection of dead parts to remind me to be cautious.


BTW, I was the one who originally meantioned freezing the board to remove the heatsink. It worked a treat for me. I noticed that my RMA board was frozen when I got it(was still winter here, board had condensation on it), and it came off with ease.

Now, today I had the chance to play with another board, and IT was much harder to remove than my first, but still it just popped right off.

Mind you both time, the board had not been run for very long, allowing the tim to set.

Mind you, in the end, my boards are SE's, not the regular boards, so that might have something to do with it...

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Quote:

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Originally Posted by iTravis

You guys have any recommendations for a 2x2GB set that works fine with this board? It seems the OCing capability is limited due to 4x1GB sticks. :(

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I use the G.Skill 2x2GB PC2-8000 4GBPQ

They were around 75 or so from newegg a while back. I think they're still the same price.

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Originally Posted by philbrown23

what bios are you using? no tweaks at all? mine will hit 4.7ghz but wil only bench at 4.5ghz and it's flaky then, and I have to put the voltage right to it.

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what cooling are you using? ive got a ss phase on my cpu. perhaps that is what accounting for higher cpu. also im on maximus formula... though i flashed to rampage for higher fsb. just ran a quick test tonight.

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=387905
max fsb.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by dasc

I thought you guys were on my side!?

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we were! right up until the point to where you broke your hardware in such a way that asus would actually care about the warranty. :rofl:

stop trying to ruin it for the rest of us :p:

Quote:

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Originally Posted by shimmishim

I use the G.Skill 2x2GB PC2-8000 4GBPQ

They were around 75 or so from newegg a while back. I think they're still the same price.

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I notice your sig that you used to have 4x1GB Crucial sticks like mine and you're now running the 2x2GB G.Skill? Do you notice any differences?
It's $84.99 on newegg and have such great reviews. I'll grab that to replace my 4x1GB sticks. :up:
Thank you! :D

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Originally Posted by iTravis

I notice your sig that you used to have 4x1GB Crucial sticks like mine and you're now running the 2x2GB G.Skill? Do you notice any differences?
It's $84.99 on newegg and have such great reviews. I'll grab that to replace my 4x1GB sticks. :up:
Thank you! :D

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I'm curious as well...

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Originally Posted by TheScavenger

I'm curious as well...

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For everyday use and what not... no, I don't notice anything different.

If I were to bench my system then yes I would notice a difference as I used tighter subtimings with my crucials since they were a very nice set of D9's.

I like mine a lot and I'm going to run 2x2 until 4x2 becomes more popular and prevalent.

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Originally Posted by JKad

I just dumped Vista SP1 and installed XP pro for the first time on my MF. I have an unknown device identified as "on Intel(R) ICH9R LPC Interface Controller - 2916". All of the add on devices are installed and working properly (unlike on Vista). I downloaded the Intel chipset install utility, the soundmax drivers, Intel matrix manager for my raid HDs, etc. I have not loaded the Asus drivers from the CD. This device has to be something on the motherboard not recognized by XP. Can someone shed any light on what this could be?

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Stick your Asus mobo disk in and it will fix itself

Can some say whether or not the Rampage mod gives this board better fsb? Sorry if this question was asked before.