Radeon HD 6850 & 6870 reviews...

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10-22-2010, 06:03 AM
DilTech

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Originally Posted by DilTech

So, unlike almost every generation that I can remember in the last decade we see a new mid-range that trades blows with a last generation mid-range, and people are actually acting like this is a big deal? Then using the answer "oh, but it's on the same node, no die shrink!"... What does that have to do with you...The consumer? It wouldn't matter if it was 28nm or 110nm to the consumer(well, outside of power usage and heat...) if you wish to get technical.

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Originally Posted by Dimitriman

except all of the examples you mentioned above happened after a node transition.
this card is on schedule and on the same node as previous generation. and this after the entire 32nm fiasco that put the whole industry at a slower pace. processors included.
so yes i am very impressed by this launch.

;)

I'm not trying to rag down on this, I'm just telling it the way I see it.
10-22-2010, 06:20 AM
Dimitriman

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Originally Posted by DilTech

;)

I'm not trying to rag down on this, I'm just telling it the way I see it.

The way I see it, if Nvidia doesn't step up to this soon, the price of Antilles is going to feel like this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEQc8n-844k
10-22-2010, 06:25 AM
Metroid

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Originally Posted by N19h7m4r3

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Performance, 6870 = 470 but 470 can be 50% overclocked.:sick:
10-22-2010, 06:36 AM
RSC

@ techPowerUp! 6850 review:

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http://tpucdn.com/reviews/HIS/Radeon...s/gpuz1120.gif

One major issue with the sample I received was that it came with 1120 shaders enabled. The HD 6850 specification requires 960 shaders. Unfortunately neither HIS, nor AMD could provide help with getting the board fixed so I had to reconfigure the shaders on my own. If you see other HD 6850 reviews on the web that show surprisingly high performance, please ask the reviewer to check fillrate or using GPU-Z. I know of one other site who received a Sapphire HD 6850 with 1120 shaders enabled, so the problem might be more widespread.

(http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/HIS/Radeon_HD_6850/)
10-22-2010, 06:42 AM
Metroid

lol, the BIOS of these cards would make wonders. :lol:
10-22-2010, 06:43 AM
Monstru

Just so you know, we really spentquite some time trying to unlock 2 HD 6850 samples to HD 6870, but we didn't have much luck :(
10-22-2010, 06:46 AM
Sam_oslo

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Originally Posted by RSC

@ techPowerUp! 6850 review:

(http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/HIS/Radeon_HD_6850/)[/B]

LOL, a down clocked 6870 in a 6850-box are going to rewires? Probably it's just an innocent mistake, but it could mess up all results, anyways.
10-22-2010, 06:51 AM
MrMojoZ

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Originally Posted by DilTech

;)
I'm not trying to rag down on this, I'm just telling it the way I see it.

Hmm, you are seeing it wrong then I'm afraid. Compare these cards to 5770s not 5870s.
10-22-2010, 06:52 AM
RSC

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Originally Posted by Sam_oslo

LOL, a down clocked 6870 in a 6850-box are going to rewires? Probably it's just an innocent mistake, but it could mess up all results, anyways.

An "innocent mistake" that happened at least twice and with different branded cards (one HIS and one Sapphire)? Sure and we also believe in Santa Claus, right? ;)
10-22-2010, 06:52 AM
Dimitriman

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Originally Posted by Sam_oslo

LOL, a down clocked 6870 in a 6850-box are going to rewires? Probably it's just an innocent mistake, but it could mess up all results, anyways.

Can SKYMTL confirm or burry this please?
10-22-2010, 06:56 AM
Sam_oslo

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Originally Posted by RSC

An "innocent mistake" that happened at least twice and with different branded cards (one HIS and one Sapphire)? Sure and we also believe in Santa Claus, right? ;)

I just tried to politically correct, you know. ;), but who knows. This GPU-business looks like money-business it these days, so anything is possible. :rofl:
10-22-2010, 07:04 AM
MrMojoZ

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Originally Posted by Ego

I have to agree wiith mr.Glow9

Back to years of ati9800pro, x700, x800.
I have more problems with ati drivers then nvidia drivers, i cant remember if i have any problem with nvidia drivers...
In house there are 3 nvidia cards! gtx260, 9800gtx and gts8600, non ati at all.
I dont give sht abaut whos better at some tests labs, im more interesting in practice usages, im allways want good drivers, it will crash if i will do max performance, then, like im able to play older game??, im able to install (3dfx)glide wrapper??? can i use PhysX too???

Good drivers makes lots of diference so my house wins 3/0 for nvidia! and that not by "performance" :cool:

What?
10-22-2010, 07:27 AM
N19h7m4r3

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Originally Posted by Metroid

Performance, 6870 = 470 but 470 can be 50% overclocked.:sick:

Like I said what's best for you. Not everyone overlocks.

Although I had my 470 arrive in the post today, I like to overlock so for "me" it's be best choice.

Given it's selling for 189.99 at OCUK, it's a complete bargain for me. Given I can get it to match the GTX 480 probably.

Which is a massive increase over a 4870x2 where only 1 chip was working for the past month and now that it completely died :D
10-22-2010, 07:29 AM
RSC

Here in Portugal, right now, you can get a Gigabyte GTX470 Super OC ~30€ cheaper than a 6870.
10-22-2010, 07:39 AM
Biker

I am starting to feel the same way about the word fanboi that Movieman feels about the word Fermi :(
10-22-2010, 07:44 AM
Metroid

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Originally Posted by N19h7m4r3

Given it's selling for 189.99 at OCUK, it's a complete bargain for me. Given I can get it to match the GTX 480 probably.

All understood, OCUK has a great offer for the 470, only £174. I must resist :cord:
10-22-2010, 07:50 AM
Biker

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Originally Posted by Metroid

All understood, OCUK has a great offer for the 470, only £174. I must resist :cord:

*blocks eyes and cuts up credit card*
10-22-2010, 08:02 AM
Xoulz

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Originally Posted by RSC

Here in Portugal, right now, you can get a Gigabyte GTX470 Super OC ~30€ cheaper than a 6870.

But the 470 doesn't have HDMI 1.4, or 1.2 DP, nor does it function effectively with windows aero, or open standards like the AMD does...

But like u said, it's $30 cheaper.
10-22-2010, 08:02 AM
kaktus1907

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Originally Posted by Lokinhow

Free AA? :D

And the IQ is not that bad...

http://media.bestofmicro.com/E/8/266...%20comparo.gif

I like it.

impressive most impressive.. since mlaa cost cheap i wonder how amazing it looks with mlaa + 4xmsaa faster and more beautiful than ssaa
10-22-2010, 08:13 AM
Zloyd

innocent mistake ROFL ..... wow thats just shady as hell.
10-22-2010, 08:25 AM
Vardant

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Originally Posted by RSC

An "innocent mistake" that happened at least twice and with different branded cards (one HIS and one Sapphire)? Sure and we also believe in Santa Claus, right? ;)

Four times, so far.
10-22-2010, 08:27 AM
tajoh111

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Originally Posted by Dimitriman

The way I see it, if Nvidia doesn't step up to this soon, the price of Antilles is going to feel like this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEQc8n-844k

I usually don't agree with you, but I entirely agree with you on this one. What kind of price are you expecting?

I was expecting with the low quantities, something around 749 MSRP with actual street price well past 800.
10-22-2010, 08:29 AM
Xoulz

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Originally Posted by DilTech

;)

I'm not trying to rag down on this, I'm just telling it the way I see it.

U don't see too clearly...

Before this release, u couldn't have this type of performance for $179 bucks.
10-22-2010, 08:57 AM
RSC

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Originally Posted by Vardant

Four times, so far.

techPowerUp!, ComputerBase.de and... what were the other two sites?
10-22-2010, 08:59 AM
flippin_waffles

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Originally Posted by trinibwoy

Yeah AMD is raking in the profit. They made a whole million dollars last quarter! God, when will the stupid "small die = free money" claims stop :(

Yeah well, that doesn't exactly tell the whole story now does it, considering AMD will also have two generations of cards with full stacks in the time nv takes to fill one generation.

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make that 3 generations

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