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09-14-2010, 09:05 PM
Aedubber

Anzial - Do you own your own company ? I'm just curious ...
09-15-2010, 06:12 AM
gmat

Quote:

Originally Posted by NKrader

if you look at the pictures you can see that it is a hybrid of both flat tubes and round tubes.

you can see "normal" finned rad behind the tubes. :shrug:

You can see they do coiled heat exchangers with those finned tubes.
But the fins inside will promote water->copper heat transfer, alright. What about copper->air heat transfer ? Isnt that the most critical part for our applications ?
09-15-2010, 07:15 AM
nysulli

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmat

You can see they do coiled heat exchangers with those finned tubes.
But the fins inside will promote water->copper heat transfer, alright. What about copper->air heat transfer ? Isnt that the most critical part for our applications ?

both are equally as important, but I'm also curious about the performance of these rads, it looks like they really have sacrificed a lot of the copper to air surface area, but I'll save final judgment for when I see some numbers
09-15-2010, 08:43 AM
meanmoe

Quote:

Originally Posted by NKrader

if you look at the pictures you can see that it is a hybrid of both flat tubes and round tubes.

you can see "normal" finned rad behind the tubes. :shrug:

I do not see the hybrid that you're talking about. I do not see flat tubes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmat

Interesting. But in avionics dont you profit from a great natural airflow by chance ? This would compensate the lesser surface area of exchange.

No airflow, not in this application. The cold plates are used for bench testing to keep hardware in spec for extended periods of operation. Actual operational time is very short.
09-15-2010, 09:03 AM
NaeKuh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waterlogged

From the images, it doesn't look like there are any "fins", those bulges are part of the copper(?) tubes.

errrr maybe they took something simular to gabe's air sink design?

it looks like they used a simular methodology as this guy here:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...e/IMG_0501.jpg

instead of fins, it looks like the pipes have been invidually made so they would get a greater surface area at a smaller foot print.

Problem with this design i see tho, it looks like its gonna break a new record in how overpriced a radiator can be.
09-15-2010, 09:14 AM
mlwood37

evolution costs money ... speculate as much as you like but until its out and ppl have played with it just sit back and enjoy the ride.
09-15-2010, 09:16 AM
MagisD

Huh, something just occurred to me I wonder if anybody ever tried it Single direction rad , Fill it vertically with Small Offset triangular ( to Cause turbulence and direct airflow) tubes. It would only work in one direction. But might work ?
09-15-2010, 09:22 AM
NaeKuh

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlwood37

evolution costs money ... speculate as much as you like but until its out and ppl have played with it just sit back and enjoy the ride.

Looks expensive as hell tho. :P
09-15-2010, 09:27 AM
skinnee

Holy cow... that was a giant leap to patent infringement.
09-15-2010, 09:30 AM
NaeKuh

LOL but that other link shows its not really a infringement.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...onal/tubes.png

Meh... still think its a copy on swiftech's helicoid patent.
09-15-2010, 10:08 AM
meanmoe

the tubes look a little large to accomplish the same thing swiftech is doing

I'm thinking GEWA-HB, but rifled or stuffed with a mesh.

And I'd speculate that it could work great until it reaches saturation.

Still not ruling out revolutionary though...
09-15-2010, 10:20 AM
skinnee

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaeKuh

Meh... still think its a copy on swiftech's helicoid patent.

You're a ding-dong, there is no way those two designs are similar other than the fact that the have cylindrical components.
09-15-2010, 10:32 AM
MagisD

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaeKuh

errrr maybe they took something simular to gabe's air sink design?

it looks like they used a simular methodology as this guy here:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...e/IMG_0501.jpg

I'd like to see that sealed in With a side inlet and Top outlet and see what happens ;-)
09-15-2010, 10:33 AM
Waterlogged

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagisD

I'd like to see that sealed in With a side inlet and Top outlet and see what happens ;-)

It's called. . .corrosion. :p: :rofl:
09-15-2010, 10:56 AM
Erklat

:eek:

Anyone thought of this? How about using them premixes with Admiral series rads? :shocked:

We have this:

Quote:

Feser One - the only coolant you will ever need!

Perfecting the way you cool your system, safely and paving the way to the future.

And we have this:

Quote:

THese will be crowned king of all PC Radiators and all the hoopla of who has the best radiator will be put to an end finally when these are released.

And we all know how safe their premixes are. Now how could they possibly do a fair thing, which would be an announcement that one of their products is not advisable to
use with the other? :p:
And how would you clean them inside fins after this happens? You wouldn't. Not without a jigsaw, you wouldn't. :D
09-15-2010, 11:10 AM
MagisD

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waterlogged

It's called. . .corrosion. :p: :rofl:

HEHEHEHEEH with lets say Silver pins or Non corrosive elements , humm maybe if Pins Were swirled into more of a corkscrew shape. flow in on the bottom and around and around the pins on its way up and out .

Ohh that would be insane .. inside the feser tubes .... a giant corkscrew flow.
09-22-2010, 09:05 AM
Tetrafluorometh

So when are they going to open the website up more and shows us this new stuff. it's nearly the end of the month!!
09-22-2010, 06:57 PM
turtletrax

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tetrafluorometh

So when are they going to open the website up more and shows us this new stuff. it's nearly the end of the month!!

http://www.dazmode.com/store/index.p...&cPath=154_155

Looks like they wont be available until at least the end of October :confused:

No idea when they will actually give info. I hope the give some to Skinnee soon, thats all I really care about.
09-23-2010, 04:44 AM
Tetrafluorometh

There (TFC) site says this month. They need to do something. Skinnee you got any info
09-23-2010, 07:06 AM
skinnee

Nothing new unfortunately... I'll bang some cages and see if I can get any info.
09-23-2010, 07:41 AM
nysulli

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagisD

I'd like to see that sealed in With a side inlet and Top outlet and see what happens ;-)

years ago people did stuff like that, I remember a guy on forumoc back in the day sealed up an old ocz gladiator heatsink and had solid results, ran it with a huge danner mag 265 watt pump and a pair of 6" bong towers with a picnic cooler as the reservoir

as for this infringing on patents with that heatsink, not even close, 2 different applications, plus as its been pointed out, other companies have done what looks to be similar with watercoolers for other applications.

that said I probably wouldn't buy one based on what they'll likely be priced at, but I'm still interested to see what they bring to the table
09-25-2010, 02:59 AM
ell

Quote:

Originally Posted by skinnee

You're a ding-dong

lol. you tell him skinnee
09-25-2010, 03:48 AM
stephanel1345

all photos are here

http://watercooling.fr/forum/materie...ger-t4110.html

strange internal conception , interesting to test !

:D
09-25-2010, 04:13 AM
m_jones_

With all them features they aren't going to be cheap.:(
09-25-2010, 04:18 AM
stoner

online the official site http://www.feser-one.com/admiral/ADMIRAL.swf

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