COD MW2 - No PB support and Dedicated Servers

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10-18-2009, 11:26 AM
Philip_J_Fry

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Originally Posted by Mad1723

Hm.... apparently, I got banned from their forum... the thing is, I only posted about the fact that it was worrying that IW had lost so much faith in PC gamers and decided to go the console way... And I apparently got banned for that... smells like huge damage control going on since they know they screwed up. Well, seems like I wont be spending a penny on their next game!

and they let console trolls post idiotic shyt freely.. lovely isnt?
10-18-2009, 11:27 AM
Spawne32

It really stuns me what a slap in the face this is not only to pc gamers but to the server companys themselves like gameservers.com, could you imagine the loss in sales on MW2 from the 25,000+ servers that would have been rented? COD4 had like 22,000 servers at one point in time i remember.
10-18-2009, 11:27 AM
rintamarotta

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Originally Posted by 003

Well, no actually. I canceled my pre-order and I will be downloading a pirated version to play the single player now. And I intend to hand out free copies to all my friends and tell them not to buy it.

And there will likely be a good player base for the pirated version. Pirates can only play on other pirate servers, and if you look at FEAR 2, another fully Steam integrated game with no dedicated server, a majority of servers are pirated.

Well if they make same kind of account system as in BF2 but also without ability to make private servers (maybe only contracted companies can make server), it will cut down pirates away from multiplayer since they need authenticate with master server to be able to join to any online action.

I hope you understand what i mean here, my english isnt really good :)

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Originally Posted by Spawne32

It really stuns me what a slap in the face this is not only to pc gamers but to the server companys themselves like gameservers.com, could you imagine the loss in sales on MW2 from the 25,000+ servers that would have been rented? COD4 had like 22,000 servers at one point in time i remember.

Depends in the way Infinity Ward implements this new multiplayer system. They can make it so only contracted companies can make a unofficial servers so no server files bundled with game it self.
10-18-2009, 11:33 AM
IronWarrior

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Originally Posted by Spawne32

oh its a huge slap in the face to the companys that rent dedicated servers, let me tell you, those companys were probably waiting to score on the 25000+ servers that would have popped up on MW2.

Yep, very much so.

In the following days, am gonna start emailing the ones that I know and ask them how it's going to affect them, be nice to know what's their take on it.
10-18-2009, 12:27 PM
[XC] Oj101

I just spent a few minutes over at their forums watching the thread grow at a rate of a page per minute, I've never seen such rapid replies before. Preorder cancelled :)
10-18-2009, 12:47 PM
Duke-Nukem

Wtf????

Well I W I L L N O T be buying this title. I think that we will look at other options like the new Operation Flashpoint or ARMA 2. The Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter series was great. Maybe we need to look into going back in time....Infinity Ward...R.I.P.:down:

Duke
10-18-2009, 12:52 PM
[+Duracell-]

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Originally Posted by rintamarotta

Well if they make same kind of account system as in BF2 but also without ability to make private servers (maybe only contracted companies can make server), it will cut down pirates away from multiplayer since they need authenticate with master server to be able to join to any online action.

I hope you understand what i mean here, my english isnt really good :)

Depends in the way Infinity Ward implements this new multiplayer system. They can make it so only contracted companies can make a unofficial servers so no server files bundled with game it self.

I don't care about having to authenticate with IWNet every time I play. I DO care about finding a server with great people to play with and ALWAYS joining that server. The point people are making here is that people can't rent out dedicated servers and enjoy a relatively lag-free game. With matchmaking and P2P play much like consoles, we're limited by the host's connection and PC.
10-18-2009, 12:53 PM
Sly Fox

I know many of you have voiced the same thing, but I'm not buying this anymore.

I was peeved at the $60 pricetag, but I was still going to buy it. Now that's done with, they've lost my sale. :shakes: :mad:

*Edit* Oh, and this is after rushing out to buy CoD, CoD2, and CoD4 all on launch-day. I've been a long time fan.
10-18-2009, 01:02 PM
Duke-Nukem

Do the math...

The petition is up to over 29,000 people who are obviously not happy with this decision.

29000 x $60 = $1,740,000 in lost game sale revenue.

potential lost sales of servers from server hosting companies:

$40(average cost per month)
20000(average COD4 servers)
$800,000 per month lost revenue
Multiply that by 24 months(COD4 has been out that long)
$19,200,000 in lost server revenue for 2 years
+$1,740,000
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$20,940,000 TOTAL LOST REVENUE FOR GAMERS AND SERVER COMPANIES

Go sign the petition, if they dont change the gameplay with dedicated server option, DONT BUY IT...

Duke
10-18-2009, 01:09 PM
Sparky

I am totally disgusted with this. I thought that Activision/Infinity Ward had it together pretty good. COD1, 2, and 4 were all good. Was looking forward to this (though I was going to wait until it was $50 as I refused to pay $60 out of principle), but now that they've utterly RUINED it, I'm not buying. Screw you IW, you had stuff going good then you slap us in the face? Forget it. :down:
10-18-2009, 01:09 PM
Earzz

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Originally Posted by sniperbob

http://www.petitiononline.com/dedis4mw/petition.html

everyone sign this NOW! thousands have signed already

Yep, keep signing up people.
This is just bad, everything i didnt like from console gaming is now brought to PC gaming.
Also steam and VAC arent making me happy either.
In my old clan i was responsible for the COD servers on the Linux box and i also was a PsB, PBBans and GGC-Stream streaming admin.
I always enjoyed the control over our own servers with heavy PB scripts and our own server rules.
This is now gone and a big blow to the PC gaming community.
As also said before this is also a killer for smaller GSP's, some companies rely heavily on the call of duty series.

mmm looks like since i left nobody is doing the maintenance on the servers, lazy bastards :shakes:

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10-18-2009, 01:13 PM
JAWS

lol signed and posted at IW

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x...0-18-09053.jpg

they will not get 2 pc purchases again!
10-18-2009, 01:17 PM
Luka_Aveiro

Wow, this is really going to be the most pirated game that ever existed, it has everything to it.
10-18-2009, 01:21 PM
Bodkin

Pirating games that activate via steam is hard though, still doable though. I am disgusted too by this blatant disregard for the guy who got them where they are. Pre-order canceled, screw you IW. The bigger you are the harder you fall
10-18-2009, 01:28 PM
Luka_Aveiro

I really don't know what the hell they were thinking?

Did they ever thought that PC gamers are the exact same audience as console gamers?

I mean, if we enjoyed the offering of the consoles world, we would buy one.

But we know what we want, we want to be able to chose, and this time, we chose not to buy MW2, as it is served to us with a big slap in the face.

Screw you IW, this is hate.
10-18-2009, 01:35 PM
Nano2k

I'll wait till it's 15$ on my favorite online serial reseller and then I might buy it. SP pirated version will be fine for starters as I am still enjoying COD 5 multi^^
10-18-2009, 01:36 PM
Sh1tyMcGee

Good job Activision/IW, selfish corporate A$$holes
10-18-2009, 01:42 PM
affiliate13

Looks like admins are renaming their server descriptions to further vocalise everyones distaste at this move.

How can IW be so out of touch? Surely someone in there must have said, "Umm guys this is like uhm what we do that eh got folk playing COD MW in big numbers in the first place, this will kill our rep with this section of our audience"

Maybe they dont care, at this point they maybe assume that their revenues from consoles and even with the reduced number of PC players will be strong enough to absorb the backlash regardless of how large and sustained, as PC gamers we have been in the minority for a long time.
10-18-2009, 01:49 PM
T.Goat

How many of those 30k people actually would have bought the game anyways? I'd bet less then half. They're just mad that they'll have to wait a couple more hours/days to pirate a hacked working version. :shakes:
10-18-2009, 02:00 PM
jakefalcons

wow great post, everyone knows everyone that uses a pc is a pirate yup :rolleyes: you vote with your dollar and i for one wont be buying anything from activision blizzard in the future, and i wont be pirating them either. their ceo is an idiot to put it politely and i refuse to support his way of doing business.
10-18-2009, 02:01 PM
003

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Originally Posted by Bodkin

Pirating games that activate via steam is hard though, still doable though. I am disgusted too by this blatant disregard for the guy who got them where they are. Pre-order canceled, screw you IW. The bigger you are the harder you fall

Its still possible. Soon enough a copy will be posted on TPB that includes the pre hacked files so you don't need to do any work. Then just download and install, and hand out free copies to all your friends (and tell them not to pay for it) :D:D

EDIT:
Please note I do not support piracy, I was going to pay full price till I learned about this. I support actively hurting the bottom line of :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::b anana: companies. It makes me feel much better than just passively boycotting.
10-18-2009, 02:16 PM
Sly Fox

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Originally Posted by 003

EDIT:
Please note I do not support piracy, I was going to pay full price till I learned about this. I support actively hurting the bottom line of :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::b anana: companies. It makes me feel much better than just passively boycotting.

Same boat here.

I always buy my games, and my well-populated Steam game list as well as closet full of PC games attests to this fact. :up:

But this is pure BULLCRAP!!! I will pirate the crap out of this game just to stick it in their smug faces.
10-18-2009, 02:20 PM
jakefalcons

why is the industry looking at ea as a good business model i just don't get it. I'm gonna be glad when most studios pull out of the pc market completely and gaming can go back to its roots not this cash grabbing, garbage promoting stuff we get now. :(
10-18-2009, 02:28 PM
AndrewZorn

an interesting idea...

the entire industry crashes
GPU development slows down
independent developers start becoming more popular
making good games

...start charging more for them
and more
nvidia/ATI start to notice and make better GPUs
programmers get lazy
devs want more money
consumers want last year's game but with better graphics
companies press users until its no longer worth it
game industry collapses again

are we seeing the first iteration of the CYCLIC MODEL OF THE COMPUTER GAMING HOBBY?
10-18-2009, 02:39 PM
jakefalcons

quite possibly :( well enjoy the good stuff while it lasts i guess :cool: like everything in life!

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