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04-08-2007, 04:31 AM
ziddey

You plugging in the floppy molex? I see it's recommended for power delivery when using crossfire, but how about otherwise? Any issues with stability without?
04-08-2007, 04:32 AM
sofarfrome

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Originally Posted by Jodiuh

Where are you at? I'm only a state away in AZ, but unwilling to wait. I knew I should have ordered 2day from ewiz yesterday... :slap:

I am in NY
04-08-2007, 04:59 AM
nealh

Quote:

Originally Posted by ziddey

You plugging in the floppy molex? I see it's recommended for power delivery when using crossfire, but how about otherwise? Any issues with stability without?

excellent question
04-08-2007, 05:19 AM
Raja@ASUS

It's always good to use the floppy molex power connector on DFI boards, I have experienced lower fsb potential on previous DFI boards when I did not bother using the connector..

regards
Raja
04-08-2007, 05:24 AM
ziddey

alright, I'll hopefully post results then. damn, what a pain having ugly cables running all over the place. bleh, might give me a reason to put heatshrink on
04-08-2007, 07:28 AM
bingo13

Quote:

Originally Posted by ziddey

You plugging in the floppy molex? I see it's recommended for power delivery when using crossfire, but how about otherwise? Any issues with stability without?

No stability issues without it plugged in at stock speeds, gained an additional 11FSB with it plugged in up top.
04-08-2007, 08:28 AM
erwinz

hey man.. how is the vcore and vdimm?? any vdrop??

hey can any body post some benches of asus commando and abit quadgt?? for comparison.. tnxs :D

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Originally Posted by raju

Hi, it's quite surprising that around 1.5vnb set in bios will allow boot and bench upto around ddr1050 at 500fsb, depending upon components and cooling. I did place a small akasa 40mm fan over the stock heatsink, idle is around 30 degrees with load sub 40, bearing in mind the motherboard is on a table top in a very well ventilated room..

Vdimm thus far I have used around 2.35v for the 500fsb stuff, just to keep things conservative. Ram does run a tad hotter on this board due to the increased drive strengths that Oskar is renowned for.

Please bear in mind I have not benched 3d yet @ 500fsb, I will have to wait until I swap out the board into the other rig with a 8800gtx. I will have this board under phase/cascade eventually, just wanted to get some air stuff done so people could get a more realistsic feel of what a good board/ram and cpu can do with DFI's latest offering.

Regards
Raja
04-08-2007, 09:13 AM
t1no

I am having trouble with my eva680i, should i jump to this mobo or get the dfi 680i coming out soon?
04-08-2007, 09:28 AM
Revv23

^unless you have to run SLI get his mobo.
04-08-2007, 09:35 AM
erwinz

hey raju..

can you compare with the DFI 680 lt??

http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/DFI-680iLT/59.JPG

from andre's initial results..

here.. http://xtremesystems.org/forums/show...=139778&page=6

tnxs..

how about the matrix raid?? :) better??
04-08-2007, 09:52 AM
The Nemesis

^^^This is Y I asked for obtainable Cas 3^^^ Not everyone has DDR2 kits that can run cas 3 with those sub timings. I don't think the 965 chipset even does 1T.
04-08-2007, 09:54 AM
Rattle

Quote:

Originally Posted by erwinz

hey raju..

can you compare with the DFI 680 lt??

http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/DFI-680iLT/59.JPG

from andre's initial results..

here.. http://xtremesystems.org/forums/show...=139778&page=6

tnxs..

how about the matrix raid?? :) better??

yes want to see the same timings with 2T if you want I can give my asus a p5b deluxe a go at same settings.
04-08-2007, 09:54 AM
t1no

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Nemesis

^^^This is Y I asked for obtainable Cas 3^^^ Not everyone has DDR2 kits that can run cas 3 with those sub timings. I don't think the 965 chipset even does 1T.

Sorry what do you mean?
04-08-2007, 10:05 AM
The Nemesis

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Originally Posted by t1no

Sorry what do you mean?

The following subtimings were set by AndreYang using Memset 3.2
trc=8, trfc=19, twr=1, twtr=6, trrd=1

Tighening subtimings and running 1T greatly improves Pi times on the 680i chipset. The catch is not every DDR2 kit can run cas 3 @ DDR2-800. I have several kits that can, but it took a little over 2.4v for AndreYang to make a 32mb Pi run with those tight sub timings. I would like to see some cas 3 Pi times without overvolting ram to achieve super tight subtimings.
04-08-2007, 10:46 AM
erwinz

I think the team xtreme 1200 can run ddr2 6400 cas 3 @ 2.1 volts.. :D but its a little pricey.. :(
04-08-2007, 11:38 AM
AndreYang

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Nemesis

The following subtimings were set by AndreYang using Memset 3.2
trc=8, trfc=19, twr=1, twtr=6, trrd=1

Tighening subtimings and running 1T greatly improves Pi times on the 680i chipset. The catch is not every DDR2 kit can run cas 3 @ DDR2-800. I have several kits that can, but it took a little over 2.4v for AndreYang to make a 32mb Pi run with those tight sub timings. I would like to see some cas 3 Pi times without overvolting ram to achieve super tight subtimings.

I only use 2.25V for DDR2 800 CL3 1T. Maybe my memory is a little bit stronger.:)
04-08-2007, 11:58 AM
The Nemesis

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndreYang

I only use 2.25V for DDR2 800 CL3 1T. Maybe my memory is a little bit stronger.:)

Wow! That was the G. Skill 8000 HZ's? Your IC's must be based on D9GKX IC's. I've got some pretty decent 6400 HZ's as you've already seen but they can touch your timmings. Nice kit.:slapass:
04-08-2007, 12:07 PM
AndreYang

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Originally Posted by The Nemesis

Wow! That was the G. Skill 8000 HZ's? Your IC's must be based on D9GKX IC's. I've got some pretty decent 6400 HZ's as you've already seen but they can touch your timmings. Nice kit.:slapass:

Yes, D9GKX. 0605 GSKILL 1000HZ. Old school D9GKX is so stronger than now.
04-08-2007, 12:32 PM
nealh

this board looks like a winner...looks like it would be stable at 400fsb with low nb voltages and should be faster than my piss poor RD600 experience

I have to build 2 office computers for dictation use with Dragon Naturally Speaking 9....looking for modest overclock by XS std(I am hoping to hit 3200)

I will probably go with an e6600(although e6400 does not look bad either)...buy the cpu after april 22

this board looks great for the price.....

I see no advanatge for nonsli with dfi 680i....
04-08-2007, 01:19 PM
EMan

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Originally Posted by nealh

this board looks great for the price.....

I see no advanatge for nonsli with dfi 680i....

Agreed. This board coupled with a lower-multi C2D might be best bang-for-buck after the upcoming cpu price cuts (unless u want sli)

Of course we'll need more test results to confirm this...
04-08-2007, 02:51 PM
nealh

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Originally Posted by EMan

Agreed. This board coupled with a lower-multi C2D might be best bang-for-buck after the upcoming cpu price cuts (unless u want sli)

Of course we'll need more test results to confirm this...

I agree but for moderate overclocks(at this point looks awesome and almost a no brainer)..this board looks very good from a price point as well...DFI bios options as well
04-08-2007, 03:57 PM
Jodiuh

What's a waiting thread wo/ a "wtf should I get w/ this board" reply?!

$213.99 Buffalo Firestix FSX1000D2C-K2G or $179.99 G.Skill F2-6400PHU2-2GBHZ for this board?

I prefer the price and color of the G.Skill, but the Firestix will probably have GKX love. G.Skill bin vs Firestix IC?!
04-08-2007, 08:42 PM
2000army

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jodiuh

What's a waiting thread wo/ a "wtf should I get w/ this board" reply?!

$213.99 Buffalo Firestix FSX1000D2C-K2G or $179.99 G.Skill F2-6400PHU2-2GBHZ for this board?

I prefer the price and color of the G.Skill, but the Firestix will probably have GKX love. G.Skill bin vs Firestix IC?!

UMMMMMM......DID U FORGET:p:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820146563

:banana: :banana:
04-08-2007, 08:54 PM
Jodiuh

Nope, the first Crucial 10th died along w/ a P5B Deluxe. The replacement Ballistix CL3 667 died after another month. The replacement Crucial 10th is now giving me trouble unless I loosen timings and lower speeds. The last 2 replacements have died in this P5B-E Premium Plus (fake P5B from egg) and I care not to try again.

I have the DFI board coming on Wed and I'm going to pair it w/ the G.Skill HZ and replace the PSU from a NEO HE to the PC P&C Silencer 610. I highly doubt the cpu, gpu, or hdd's would cause the kind of registry corrupting and random crashes I've been subjected to over the past 2-3 months. Perhaps it's related to running RAID, or bad luck. Who knows, but I just have to get away from the Asus+Cruc killer combo. :D BTW, all RAM died at stock voltages and 2nd/3rd replacement died at stock.

If anyone has any ideas, please share.

EDIT: The 2 raptors are brand new and have been tested recently w/ WD DLG tools. Another oddity is the lack of minidumps. :(
04-08-2007, 10:37 PM
Raja@ASUS

Updated here with a stable overclock with everyday voltages on air...

http://csd.dficlub.org/forum/showpos...94&postcount=4

Settings are fairly tweaked for 24/7 use with micron d9gmh/d9gkx. Obviously benchmarking will run tighter, just wanted to get the ground work done first. It's a question of balance between these 2 newer DFI boards, depending on what your needs are. Both are the fastest in their class it seems, so make your choice depending on what's important to you. I am getting both :), granted that's not something everyone will do, but as a DFI enthusiast, I see no other way to satisfy my curiosity...

I will bench with 3d soon, next up is a little work with quad core, then under the phase unit to see what she'll do at around 4.4ghz, and if that looks good onward to cascade..

regards
Raja

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