Ha! thanks for the motivation!Quote:
Originally Posted by itznfb
So will better cooling help it out? It does quite well on air and mild volt @2.85
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Ha! thanks for the motivation!Quote:
Originally Posted by itznfb
So will better cooling help it out? It does quite well on air and mild volt @2.85
yea, im thinking that 3GHz is possible with my cpu because i can bench and browse, but prime fails in 1 second. gotta find a way to fix that, lol.
you may need to use some h2o. i would guess that if you can drop your current load temps to mid 40's, you might be able to reach 3ghz. although, your chip may just hit a wall before that. it would be tough to get your temps that low though. i definatly think you need to lower those temps quite a bit though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mastactor
yea, my chip does that at 2700mhz. i can play games for hours, run super pi all day long, but as soon as i run prime it fails immediatlyQuote:
Originally Posted by blazin-asian
where are the dual core gurus to help us with this problem? lol.
i don't know man, i figure that if prime fails immediatly, i probably shouldn't be able to play UT2004 for 2 hours after taht.Quote:
Originally Posted by blazin-asian
Yes, I am working on getting a water cooling system together. I must say I was quite surprised when it was running prime all night, and the temp was 58°c by morning.Quote:
Originally Posted by itznfb
Oh I was wondering, is it normal to set the volts in bios at 1.45 and have it read 1.5 in windows?
i dont think its normal because usually, windows will under report your voltages not the other way around. check if you have any auto vid special or sumthing enabled. i think thats what its called.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mastactor
yea, its funny because i can boot and bench @ 1.525v and 1.55v but fails prime after 1 second on both cores. currently burning in for 2.85 @ 1.475v. slowly working my way up :)Quote:
Originally Posted by itznfb
Could be the high temps that dual priming brings.. gaming isn't necessarily tough on the CPU, like primeQuote:
Originally Posted by itznfb
I could play CS:S for a half hour when prime failed in a minute. It's all a matter of what you want to do with it.. though most likely bumping down 9-18MHz would make it quite a bit better
wouldn't gaming stress the memory controller? therefore causing a similar failure? especially with this CCBWE 0604.
Your memory controller funk on that one?Quote:
Originally Posted by itznfb
I was thinking mine is on CCBWE 0546. I can't get my ram to run at its max, if the cpu is clocked to its max. Even with a divider!
What do you mean?
Yeah it would stress the mem controller, that's not necessarily the part that's causing the failure in prime
(to itznfb)
well the small fft in prime stresses the cpu
large fft stresses more memory
blend stresses both pretty good. So if it fails blend and large, but not small fft, then it has more to do with your ram or memory controller.
i figure the main failure point on these chips would be the odmc. therefore, it would fail in games just as quick as prime. i may be wrong, i am admittedly an AMD nube.
Additional Comment:
plus it seems the majority of CCBWE have weak odmc
With some good h2o on a naked die you should be able to load in the high 30s, given a 20-22c ambient.Quote:
Originally Posted by itznfb
nah, that's not the case.. prime is way more stressful than games, 100% usage/load all the time. If you look at task manager graph for a games it ranges from 50-100%, on only one coreQuote:
Originally Posted by itznfb
Uh, just thought I'd post some useful info for anyone looking for a good Optys...if you type in opteron 165 in ebay search, you will see in the first 10 sellers(or around that figure) a 165 for sell for $303. It's a CCBBE 0610DPMW...good stepping, best price you'll find out there.
All the other sellers are trying to get between $380-$500 for this processor. I would hurry up and swoop them up before I get my hands on all of them.
Opteron 165 CCBBE 0610DPMW (Used to be Repoman's) WaterCooled with IHS On:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...2808SP2004.jpg
0610DPMW i assume?
Yeah, sorry :slap: It's Repoman's old CPU.Quote:
Originally Posted by CompGeek
Im hoping to pass 3.1ghz when I finally get a DFI :wasntme:
Y does everybody with a DFI have exceptionally low temps? No way the cpu is only 34c, especially with the opties even on water.
it can be as much as 8C under read.
I'm not sure. I just took out my 144 and put in my 165 and temps dropped 6-7C even though I just added another core :confused: It could be better contact with block or the fact that it's only getting <1.4V Either way, I doubt that the 34C is accurate, prolly about 5C higher.Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
The eXpert board seems to be the worst with under reporting cpu temp.
Yea, I saw Repo's post about the stepping, in some random thread, and decided to grab it. Thanks to all who posted about this stepping before hand.
Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
It seems to be these CCBBE 0610 that run cooler, Mine runs 36-40 load where as my previous CCB1E 0550 ran 47-52.
its a shiatty DFI bug, new beta bios allows for "readjustment' of temps by 5-10deg C*. Personally, my temps are off by 5c*Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
Quote:
Originally Posted by CompGeek
I will definetly have to agree with that statement there. Just recieved a CCBWE 0607 UPMW from monarch and it wouldn't even boot 1.55v 283x9. It took 1.475v just to get to 273x9. Guess it will just go in the pile of procs that may one day be used again or up for sale...who knows.
well, i figured the poor performance from my CCBWE 0604 must be directly related to 1) heat 2) my motherboard.
my mobo will boot at 300HTT, but not 301. if i flip the psu switch while its trying to load the bios then i can trick it into booting. i got it to boot at 305HTT 1.50vcore, but load temps were well over 60c. so... in order to see if it would prime at that vcore and speed a i set my case on its side and stuck a window fan on it. got my temps down to 51c. and core 0 primed for 1 hour, and core 1 primed all night. i'm assuming core 1 primed all night since core 0 died and temps went down to 40c. so, its not prime stable @ 305:1.5:51c. so yea, this chip sucks. any one want to buy an Opty 165 ? :)
Just received my CCBBE 0610 DPMW and it boots 334x9/140 mem divider 1.375v x 110%. :woot: Doesn't primes but a quick 3dk05 run gave me 13604.
Will tweak more tonight, now I have to go back to work :)
CCB1E 0609 FPMW
jsut came form monarch. i guess ima be the test dummy. was hoping for another 0610.
EDIT opteron 165
if its anything like my 0609FPAW, its a good chip. i can do 2.8 @ 1.475 prime stable. having trouble getting 2.85 stable though. even with 1.55v it still fails prime. it boots up and benches 3.0 @ 1.525v though.
Look at my sig... FS btw :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by blazin-asian
mines is a 165 does it matter?
priming at 2.7 stock voltage.
temps 39-40 C on water cooling
do u think i should do small speed burn ins? or am i ok. its still only like 1 hour old.
i usually try to see how high it will go right away. i've never seen a benefit from burning in, so i dont' really believe in itQuote:
Originally Posted by tvdang7
I can't say for sure it was burn in, but my 0551UPMW wasn't even stable at 2.6 with 1.425 and now (well just before swapping to the 0610DPWM) it primes 7h 41m (before failed around 30mins).
Also I wasn't able to boot over 2.7 and I got it to bench at 2.8. Burn in or AS5 settling, it became slightly better with time, around 2 months, but not real burn-in, only "normal" OC use, it is, priming sometimes, 3d benching and stressing the cpu much more than Office and websurf :D
//EDIT: Seems temps are a problem to get the CCBBE 0610 DPWM at 3ghz. Gets to 52c with ambient 26c (yes, its very hot already here in Spain). 1.375x110%. But that was THE FIRST try to get it to boot at 3ghz. Maybe tonight I can lower the volts and see. Any advice on how many volts stay at? Everything is in my sig vvvv
temps went down to aroun 37-38. im posted it for sale already so i might not have time to give yall all the info on it.
ahh i noticed ive been priming wrong. how do i set t he affinity using sp 2004?
using windows or the drop down menus of sp2004?
and do i check the box? or uncheck. only 1 cor eis going 100% the other isnt moving.
EDIT NM i jsut put the test on cpu test isntead of the cpu+ ram blend test everything is 100% now.
What is the Nvidia utility you are running that gives the temps of the CPU, MB, and GPU?Quote:
Originally Posted by SoDaR2006
nVidia nTuneQuote:
Originally Posted by Crashtack
according to Asus, its on your support CD that came with your motherboard.
http://home.amis.net/anpolic/2.8.JPG
2800 @ stock voltage. Why cpu-z shows higher vcore?
just got a Opty 165 CCB1E 609FPMW from monarch computer
will post prelim results here in a little while.
Nice, you got it in :) Is that all it was able to do? Or just a quick test.. that one went up to 2844 1.35v on my machine. 2853 was no goQuote:
Originally Posted by HiJon89
dang. those CCBBEs are crazy. right after i got a CC1BE too.
CCB1E is still on top ;) 3051@1.475 ftw
Compare with chkdsk's CCBBE 3065@1.45v :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Repoman
Ja but Chkdsk is loading lower than everyone else, and he has the best one
I still think CCB1E 0608 is a much better stepping, all results included.
I would go so far as to call 0608MPMW a CONSISTENTLY good stepping because i haven't seen any that were bad, in fact all of them are pretty equally good, it is hard to believe that there is so little variation. I am seeing much more variation within the 0610s.
Just popped it in. 2.9Ghz is giving me trouble though, I'm not sure if its an HTT problem. I'll try out a couple different settings and see if I can't get it stable :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Repoman
I noticed that it might want a lower htt multi or +0.1 on LDT volts. I can't even boot with the other ccbbe that I bought at 333x3.. needs to be 333x2.5 or use 1.3ldt volts :confused:
How are your temps? That one only got to 40-42 with 1.5v 3GHz on my setup
priming right now at 2.9ghz 1.4v on an a8n32-sli mobo.
CCB1E 0609FPMW, i took off the ihs and it dropped load temps by 5c.
its hot in my room so my load with the ihs off is 40c right now...
4 minute prime so far :)
i primed for 20 minutes at 2.8 stock voltage with the ihs on
I've used quite a few 165 Opties, on a couple of them i NEEDED to use 2x LDT multiplier to get past 2.9x-ish Ghz. I would set 2x LDT just to be safe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Repoman
dual priming at 3ghz 1.4625v set in bios... :banana: :clap:
if i can keep 3ghz stable im not even gonna bother trying for anymore.
well, maybe a little bit more, lol. always wanting to get more...
Opty 165 0551 VPMW (Black listed :D ) @2800mhz @ 1.50v Watercooled
http://img428.imageshack.us/img428/3...novo1bx.th.jpg
Opty 0610 DPMW (same chip in signature) Cooled with a Big Typhoon.
hmm...do you think the 2x or 2.5x would help my 170 ccb1e? i can prime forever 2.8 @ 1.475, but cant get stable 2.85 @ 1.55v even. my load temps never go over 50c.
what hsf you are using?Quote:
Originally Posted by blazin-asian
Hello, Absolute0 , I have to disagree with you on this :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Absolute_0
I had my hands on CCB1E 0608 MPMW , which was not able to prime
small FFTS 2920 on 1,6 VCore..:(
LDT was 3 and the mem was outta the way /100HZ /
And I seem to recall one of my friends had had a dud 0608 as well ;)
I am testing now the 0610DPMW, which seems to be promising..
dual Prime on 1.34VCore @2900 :)
Guess you got unlucky, my 0608MPMW does 3.1 Ghz while loading at 51c
Not saying 0610 is bad just that the average 0608 is still lookin better to me. Also 1.6v is a bad idea on these, way too hot if the IHS is on. I have often failed prime at high voltage and gotten prime stable at lower voltage due to heat.
Maybe i shouldn't really say that any stepping is way better than others because there is so much random chance, i'm just giving my personal opinion from what i've seen. If i had to choose 0608 or 0610 i'd hit the 0608 in an instant.
OK fair enough , thanks :)
2997 MHZ @ 1.4 V (need more - have to make vcore mod).
http://home.amis.net/anpolic/3.0.JPG
Super PI 1M = 31.141s
:toast:
im using a Big Typhoon with a silverstone fan on top.Quote:
Originally Posted by harbin
maybe i'll drop down to a 9x multi and see how far i can go with that for fun.
LOL my 0551UPMW has finally rise to 2630mhz with 1,424v at CPU-Z.
Not bad for this step, but I'm looking for a 170 CCB1E 0550VPMW or a 165 CCBBE 0610DPMW
Oh, wait ... in next days I'm receiving a new X2 3800+, maybe is a winner one, heheh :P
Who has the best 165 0551UPMW here???
salu2.
No comments on my 3.0 @ 1.4 V ? :eek:
lucky u.....i think im motherboard limited guys!! i cant give you the full potential of my 0609!!! so far its failing prime at 3 hoursQuote:
Originally Posted by Malkec
9x 311= 2.799 ghz
htt =3
1 memory divider my ram can go as high as 275:p:
@ 1.475 voltage
temps are around 45 load.
im testing my max HTT my motherboard can achieve now.
Well my 165 is not prime stable at 3.0, but it is at 2930 @ 1.4v :cool:
looks like u got a good chip there malkQuote:
Originally Posted by Malkec
i just got a CCB1E 0609FPMW yesterday
only did limited testing with mine last night but i ram prime for an hour at 3ghz @1.4625v
i primed all night at 2960@1.425v :woot:
left it running when i left for work so hopefully its still going when i get home :)
does anyone know if anywhere is shipping the CCBBE 0610 right now?
What shipping right now if you buy i guess?
That's what I like to hear..mine should be arriving any minute now.:DQuote:
Originally Posted by famich
Monarch still is AFAIK
Newegg is shipping interesting stuff
AFAIK? Sorry, not up with that oneQuote:
Originally Posted by CompGeek
I know someone who got a ccbwe 0551 from newegg last week
as far as i know
i ordered a 165 last wednesday and got a CCB1E 0609FPMW.
its a very very good chip btw. when i saw it i was like :( .
but after trying it out its just as good as the best steppings out there...
What kind of results are you getting?
http://cgi.ebay.com/AMD-Opteron-165-...QQcmdZViewItem
These chips have the same manufacturer number as my (ccb1e 0608mpmw) so they have to be the same. Actually i ordered from this guy.
I don't know if i'm allowed to post links to auctions, feel free to delete my post if necessary.
Hf
ccb1e 0608mpmw just went for 365 on ebay, it was at 330.25 since may 1. i was going to put a bid in at 340 with 30seconds left, but it jumped up to 355, then 365. ah well.
Manufacturer part
Manf Part # OSA165DAA6CD
Same on ALL 165s
But there is a big chance those are 0608mpmw's, as i got one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Absolute_0
EDIT: I looked into the mail, it is infact the same seller and same item as i got my ccb1e 0608mpmw from. Perhaps you could mail "betha1377" and ask him about the stepping.
Seller: betha1377 (baymails@bellsouth.net)
Got my CCBBE 0610DPMW 165 up and running. Currently 312*9(2807). Still going up. Runs nice and cold for air. Idle at 28c load around 35c. ;)
i would definatly send the seller a message asking what stepping it is. if no reply, i wouldn't bid on it. i believe last time i asked that guy what stepping he was selling it was a CCBWE 0607
Quote:
Originally Posted by itznfb
Ive won that, I just know it will be the worst 0608 made tho lol.
nice :) TT.BT 1424v@3000mhz 29c idle.. :stick: room temp? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by HousERaT
itznfb, I didn't find the utility on the CD, so I downloaded it form nVidia (great stock btw). It gave me a message that the monitoring isn't supported by the bios (or something to that effect). I'm guessing that's why it's not on the CD. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by itznfb
@crashtack did you install the chipset drivers? http://dlsvr01.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mis...a/MakeDisk.zip
it shouldn't matter what motherboard you have.
Additional Comment:
i believe this software allows you to alter the frequencies and voltages from within windows, which i highly recommend NOT doing. \
My best one so far : CCBBE 0610DPMW
http://img414.imageshack.us/my.php?i...000147v7fm.jpg
http://img414.imageshack.us/img414/3...147v7fm.th.jpg
I got my 0610 from Monarch last week.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mastactor
Which cooling solution are you using?Quote:
Originally Posted by famich
Btw.: Is 48° at full load (both cores) at 2900 mhz (1.4v) normal with tuniq tower 120 - for ccb1e 0608mpmw ?
Watercooling - :) see my sigQuote:
Originally Posted by Malkec
those getting from monarch this and last week,
when did you order?
and what did you order? the oem, or retail box with fan?
This is round 2 of installing XP for this system. So, maybe i didn't intstall the drivers this time around. Must have installed some of them though. The nVidia net port is working as well as the nVidia Raid monitoring utility.Quote:
Originally Posted by itznfb
:woot: monarch shipped my new 165, ordered yesterday. It will be here on friday, just in time for a rainy weekend :D
Here are my intial results.
Opteron 170 CCB1E 0609 FPAWon water
http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/133...42vcore7io.jpg
OPTERON 165 CCB1E 0608 MPMWzalman 9500
http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/204...hrs142v5qu.jpg
Its pretty warm in Texas already & was over 80 degrees in my pc room.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mastactor
i ordered the oem last wednesday morning. they shipped it out friday.
running dual prime stable and 3d stable(everything stable so far) @2961mhz 1.4v
ram with 166 divider running at 269 3-3-3-8. i havent had any time to tweak my ram nemore.
55c, thats a tad high for water...
wonder if I have too much AS5 on there cuz I was thinking the same thing. My surf temps aren't much better than the Zalman was.Quote:
Originally Posted by creidiki
Update: Opteron 165 CCBBE 0610DPMW (Used to be Repoman's) WaterCooled with IHS On:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...2906SP2004.jpg
CompGeek, If you could please update my entry..
CCBBE 0610DPMW
2952Mhz 328x9
1.5v Bios 1.472 Windows
TTBT
Prime Stable:Yes
Load Temps 48c
http://www.swva.net/jehamilt/2952.jpg
Temp offset is set at +10 so I belive the temps are fairly accurate on the Expert.
Ambient is 73.9F/23.3C
I think before I was having some problems with my Ambient temps. My computer room is normally hot 80F+ I was having a :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: of a time getting 2950 Stable.
Ive now bumped it to 2988 @ 1.5 and its priming away so far.
the screen shot i have is not recent, was when i first got this thing working and didn't realize i didn't need all that vcore to run 300x9 on this nice Opty 165 which i walked into Monarch and hand picked
also the EVGA NF41 mobo i was running along with TCCD OCZ Plat Rev2 memory was really gumming up the works
now with the DFI mobo and Crucial Ballistix i am rockin' 300x9 at stock vcore, 1.42v, idle's 30*c, loads 50*c dual prime small FFT's on air!
**edit, stock vcore runs fine but not prime stable, takes a bit more to keep it prime stable
not too shabby i dont think considering all i have is a Zalman 7000CU-B
http://xs67.xs.to/pics/06061/primestable6hrs.jpg.xs.jpg
Can you guys list cooling? This is perhaps the most important element of OCing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spazilton
Its right under Vcore.
TTBT..
That's exactly where I am (2952 with 1.5v on BIOS) but still not stable. What did you do to get it stable? I'm with TTBT too, but load temps get to 52c and that's the problem IMO. Do you think removing the IHS will help? Core 0 is the wearker, core1 can bench at 340x9. With my last 165 temps dropped 5-6c, exactly what I need :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Spazilton
I've been a bit lazy lately (very little spare time) so I'm running the chip 334x9 with 1.525v. I can bench, surf, do anything but prime. I think with normal use the chip doesn't get so hot so I get no errors. So sign me as another member of the no-prime club :D If I think how many hours I've lost getting something prime-stable... I don't bother anymore. Prime Small FFTs for 30 minutes, and if it works, I lower HTT 2-3 mhz and that's my 24/7 :slap: