Look this:Quote:
Originally Posted by i found nemo
http://forums.mushkin.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=2057
Maybe the HP3200 with green PCB on ebay is. Not confirmed yet.
I would say buy the Redline.
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Look this:Quote:
Originally Posted by i found nemo
http://forums.mushkin.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=2057
Maybe the HP3200 with green PCB on ebay is. Not confirmed yet.
I would say buy the Redline.
know a place i could buy a stick of 512 for 60 bux?
Are your XBLK timings with command rate 1T or 2T?Quote:
Originally Posted by Perc
In general, do you guys think (keeping everything else the same) that 1T give 1%, 2%, 5%, or more, improvement in sustained memory bandwidth with a X2 3800 type cores.
And lastly some say that X2 3800 Toledo OC better than Manchester. But some say, because Manchester smaller die uses less power, it should OC as well or better. Which is correct?
Big update | 29/09/2005:
Updates\Corrections:
1GB XP3200 Dual Pack 2-2-2 (2x512MB) tccd/tcc5
1GB XP4400 Dual Pack 2.5-4-4 (2x512MB) tccd
1GB REDLINE 3200/3500/4000 (2x512mb) UTT/ch
PQI TURBO DDR550 is using Hynix D5 + Brainpower 815
OCZ VX PC3500
CORSAIR ALL Rev. 1.X
1GB Sticks List coming... any help is appreciated (not just words... you know I need facts to realize a reliable list)...
Bye! :D
Iwould like to know which core to gofor also..
I was thinkinmanchester but now I dunno
I have 2X1024 pdp 1024vv 3200 that has done 254 2.5-3-2-5 and 2.5-3-2-0-7-16 :)
Waiting onmy new mobo to try them out more
Im getting the ubber Asrock and will report results as soon as i can sell the dfi nf3 and afford the components, i might throw em inthe infinity and see what theyll dowith 2.5-3-3 or 4-3
Update:
Corsair XMS-PC3200C2 Rev4.3 (2-3-3-6-1T) --chip--> Samsung TCCD & TCC5 (Rev. F) ~ Brainpower PCB
Ok! Yeah, my mistake, OCZ corrected and the others signed on my .txt :D.Quote:
Originally Posted by babyelf
Thanks man! ;)
np ;)
I have not seen the new G.Skill Extreme Series DDR 500 PC 4000 on here yet. 2 @ 1GB Samsung UCCC 3-4-8-4. I just purchased and got them on Friday.. still trying to find out which bios works best for the DFI NF4 Ultra D board. The 623-3 bios works but I cannot figure out how to get above 250 FSB on it with those timings. Now the 704-2BTA bios I can am Prime95 stable as high as 280 FSB. Timings are the same in both, 1/01 E-3-4-8-4 with everything else set at whatever the bios defaults are. On the 704 bios I cannot seem to get it to run on a divider at all.. most likely something I am doing wrong. I am not saavy messing with memory unfortunately.. way too much to try and absorb and too much going on.
OCZ DIMM 1 GB DDR-400 (OCZ4001024ELPE, Platinum EL) with infineon Ram :(
Hi guys,
Did you see that - Mushkin xp 4400 512 MB for a very reasonable price :) click
Someone familiar with the chips of that memory modules. According to mushkin they no longer use TCCD chips. I wonder if these modules are with TCC5 or....
Thanks
tcc5 last I checked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy_BAD_Boy
Incorrect: Most are listed as TCCX, which means Samsung didn't classify them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Punisher!
Incorrect as well. Multiple ICs from different manufacturers can be under the same version # (x.y).Quote:
Originally Posted by Micutzu
NEW Corsair IC Inquiry Thread
fyi, there's no such thing as unclassified samsung ic's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wired-HoH
even ramguy doesn't say that:
Quote:
TCCX = Is a down binned TCCD IC weather from Samsung or by us, so it can be a TCC3 or TCC4 or TCC5 or a TCCD marked on the IC, but it really does not matter what IC we use as long as the modules meet their tested spec.
Bah, was thinking Corsair, typed Samsung :0
In don't mind if Corsair didn't classify them. Their performance are assimilable to Samsung TCCD & TCC5, so it doesn't matter if it is written TCCX.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wired-HoH
Ultra XL PC3200 Samsung TCCD 510 BP6U815
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...071046&CatId=0
The other dude with samsung tccd sticky must be sleeping :D He hasn't add this one yet. So I'll post it here for you Punisher. :toast:
They are moderate overclockers...
Common guys....no one tried this extremely cheap memory (only $58 for a 512 MB stick). Keep in mind that the dual pack cost about $170.....what is indeed the difference?Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy_BAD_Boy
Anyone know something about this
2x512 Corsair XMS3200C2PRO v4.3
XMS3202 V4.3
0518032-3
chipset... max fsb, timings etc.
thanks
ramguy at corsair support forums has reported c2 v4.3 multiple times as either samsung tccd/5 or promos.
you may post details there and wait for ramguys reply.
alternatively, you could try and see if your ram can do 2-2-2@200 using low vdimm. if it does, its should be samsung.
yes it does with 2.8
now i have 240 @ 2.5-3-3-8 can i lower timings anymore? cause i tried and it freezes.
is system faster with FSB default 200 (CPU @2Ghz)with 2-2-2-2-5 or FSB240 (CPU @2.4Ghz) with 2.5.-3-3-8
that looks like samsung tccd/5. those are typical timings for most tccd/5 @240. however, i believe you should be able to push your ram further, upto 260-270, maybe even more.
as for 200vs240, real time performance differences should be minimal, with slight advantage for higher frequency.
They are on the list... Pro means just "with LED" :D.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparxxxy
ok, thanks...
Are ALL new GEIL pc3200 value blue UTT-BH5?
Yeah, all new ones... but the risk is always present seeing that you still could find old ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZeroX
sorry my poor english, but i am a french man :)
i have recover my ram to the sav of corsair
CORSAIR XMS 4000 V3.3 (3-4-4-8)
but i don't found what chip is in this ram
if you can help me, thanks
xms4000 v3.x are samsung based most likely.
go to corsair support forums and post info about your ram (including lot#) in ic inquiry thread. you should get the most accurate answer there.
Well, the 2x1GB cannot.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZeroX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820144322
True, in fact mine is called 256/512MB STICKS RAM LISTING ;).Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Cracauer
Any idea what oc. we could expect from this combination?Quote:
Originally Posted by ZeroX
It's a pitty that in the forum has so little info about the GEIL Value blue :(
OCZ EL PC 4200 (2,5-4-4-7).
Anybody know what chips are in these sticks?
Anyone any idea when the '1gb sticks ram listing' is going to be updated?
Exams period here... :D.Quote:
Originally Posted by [MsT3r]$eR9!o
is still avaible in some shops this ram Mushkin PC3200 Level II V2 (2-2-2) --chip--> Samsung TCCD?? how it is ?? is it like others tccd rams or is it worse??
thank you very much
one to add is some mushkin HP3200 2-3-3 (P/N:991432) 512 module ships with
0450VR
V58c2256804SAT5B
which according to here(http://tech.vault9.net/forums/Memory...st-t22118.html) is:
Vitelic 5ns - This is 5ns ram from Mosel. It is commonly found in PC3200 offerings, and at this speed is rated at cas2-3-3-6. This is not bad, but nothing out of the ordinary. It is similar to CH-5 from Winbond. This ram can clock to around 240 MHz and hold decent timings such as cas2.5-3-3-6. If timings are kept at 2-3-2-X, then this ram will typically max out around 220 MHz. This can be found in Corsair XMS3200, Geil Ultra PC3200 and PC3500, OCZ PC3200 and PC3700. This is not a bad choice of ram at all. It offers great overclockability while still holding very respectable timings. Although Mosel is not a well known name in the memory industry, you can see that the top memory manufacturers are using their ram. If you can get these on the used market, they would make a very sweet deal. I have not seen these in Value Ram offerings, but that does not mean they do not exist. Identifying these can be somewhat difficult, as many companies re-label them. Take a look at the ram list to be sure of what modules contain these chips. You can identify these chips by the last 5 characters being SAT5B.
i got this from a RMA of some blue Cl2 stuff....UTT...dammit, i feel robbed..owell..
Hello
i got PC3700 (2,5-4-3) --chip--> Samsung TCCD (rev. F)
no TCCD chips.
Mosel Vitelic 5ns and BrainPower PCB 808
if just find them with a color heatspreader, but these are silver.
As stated by someone else above, the 2Gb kit is not UTT/BH-5 as they do not like high voltage and do not OC above 216 (my max so far).Quote:
Originally Posted by ZeroX
Mine have a PCB marked Elixir which I take to mean that they are made by Nanya and presumably the chips are also Elixir 5ns. PS - those Blue heatspreaders are stuck on so cannot remove them to see the actual chips.
With relaxed timings (as per my sig) they are stable with OC on a 166 divider.
My XMS-PC3200C2 Rev1.1 are CH-5 not BH-6 like listed. Maybe this should be updated... :)
Ur sure? Never seen old CH5 who did 200Mhz 2.0-2-2-5 2,6V even not up to 280 2.0-2-2-5. ;)
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...03&postcount=1
Edit: Ok sry, maybe u mean that there are two versions.. i forgot that. :)
One with CH5, one with BH6.
Yes that's what I mean. I purchased a pair thinking I was getting a deal because they were listed in this thread as bh-6 but once they arrived and didn't OC anything like bh-5/6 I knew something was up. So I took off the heatspreader only to find this! :mad: Also killed that stick in the process of taking the h/s off. LOL note the chunks taken out of the PCB. :p: I guess I took one for the team on this one, no worries though these ch-5 chips aren't worth the PCB they're made on. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by GravediggA
:DQuote:
Originally Posted by TheMeatFrog
U was a bit rough tbh.. But good to know, that there are 3200C2 with CH5 too, never seen some before. :)
Indeed I was :p: I read some place else that Corsair mem are notorious for dying while removing the h/s since they are VERY hard to remove. It was worth it I guess to find out what IC it was. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by GravediggA
BTW here is a picture of the sticker so maybe this can help some other people avoid making the same mistake I did. :)
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/3585/img14113jl.th.jpg
probably because your sticks were recent 0338Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMeatFrog
Sometimes you'll find CH5 where BH5/6 should be and vice versa
I had a pair of XMS3200LL v1.2 which turned out to be BH5 instead of CH5
Added GeIL ONE TCCD (ES).
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMeatFrog
That's because the list is plain WRONG for Corsair memory. ICs can and will change within the same part # / revision #. The LOT # is needed to successfully identify the IC.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArcTan
There's already a huge list here: Corsair's IC Inquiry Thread
No need to remove the heat spreaders (thus voiding the warranty) on Corsair memory when you can find out the IC by asking Corsair directly.
Very nice list. Helps tons!!
No problemo.
anyone have some info about these here?
Corsair Twinx1024 3200C2PRO (2x512)
XMS3202 v4.3
0518032-3
thanks
Follos ReelMonza's link, go to the Enthusiast's Corner, post in the IC Inquiry thread stickied at the top.
That lot # looks familiar though, did you already post there?
yes, i posted there... it's the last post :D
but no answer so far
Check my memories...
http://www.thelab.gr/showthread.php?...1084#post21084
Transcend Value Ram DDR333 (spd : 2.5-3-3-7)
with Winbond BH-6.
They are missing from the list and little know about them.
Bought them in Greece 2 years ago.
My ram seemed to be missing so I'm filling in what I found:
2x 1GB OCZ PC4000 Platinum edition Enhanced Bandwidth, Extended voltage protection, Ultra low noise.
It runs at 3-3-2-8 with Infineon HYB2D512800CE-6 on Brain Power PCB.
Infineon says: HYB25D512800CE-6 / 512Mb,64Mx8, DDR333 2.5-3-3 / PG-TSOPII-66
So it seems to be only 333MHz chips that can do 500MHz.
Here's a nice review: http://www.overclockersonline.com/in...num=321&pnum=0
And here http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=82975 a funny story hehehehehe.Quote:
Originally Posted by tijgert
Thanks btw! :D
Dudes what chips do adata and geil value crap have?? :p:
sry not 4 me i buy bh 5 two twinmos memory sticks next week :clap:
Anyone any idea what chips lie within LPT ram??
I have two sticks of it one pc3200 and one pc4000,
No system to test in ATM but Im looking for specs on them.
Google throws this back whick is of no use to me at all!!!
http://www.it.com.cn/f/diy/046/30/7038.htm
hi guys
I am new at this forum and i have a question:
which 2gb kit should i buy?
or which chips are on 2gb kits like CORSAIR TWINX2048-3200C2??
thx
ps: :slapass: bad english sry I'm swiss
hi and welcome! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by SWISSCLOCKER
imho the best 2gb kit would be OCZ platinum EB pc4000.
as for Corsair, it depends on revision: v1.x is Infineon based, v2.x in Nanya.
whoops, i meant OCZ platinum EB pc4000 2gb kit. linkQuote:
Originally Posted by Wired-HoH
:slap:
thanks for the heads up wired. :up:
high5:
No problemo.
Swiss: Do you want to overclock at all?
btw Wired, do you know could we expect Corsair to release XMS 3500LL 2GB in a non-Pro edition, w/o those leds?
What chips are used on the Geil Ultra-X nForce4 Edition
http://www.geilusa.com/newsdetail.asp?linenumber=61
(I got a reply that they use the "elpida" chips:confused: :confused: )
Would this ram be any good on a DFI nF4 Ultra-D mobo?
(my CH-5 ram is on the road to oblivion:slapass: :slapass:)
I have a corsair XMS3200C2PT and likely have a SAMSUNG TCCD 516
anyone know about the limits of this RAM?
please don't double post.Quote:
Originally Posted by BiKEKiNG
http://www.houseofhelp.com/v3/showthread.php?t=44365
More likely TCCX.
hm... yes:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Wired-HoH
i think thats a really nice kit, but it is a bit high pricedQuote:
Originally Posted by Wired-HoH
what about this:
http://www.ocztechnology.com/product...annel_platinum
Just keep in mind that 3200s aren't guaranteed by anyone to do higher than that speed (albeit most will by a little at least), hence why higher speeds are recommended.
FYI, the Corsair equivalent of that memory is the 3200XL series.
atm I have the corsair twinx 3200xl pro, but i need 2x 1gb :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Wired-HoH
can i clock them -> http://www.ocztechnology.com/product...annel_platinum up to DDR500 with high latencies and higher voltage?! impossible?
Maybe. Basically, they rate them @ 400 Mhz. 25% OC may be possible, and everyone can guess what they may do based on ICs, PCBs, etc, but ultimately the best answer is a "maybe".
Finally I am going to try my GeIL Ultra-X TCCD on my new MSI Neo2 Platinum, but ARGH... I already have a problem before mounting it:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ewpost&t=84599
:censored: :dammit: :help:
Motherboard also works without I/O shield :banana:;)
hm but DDR450 with Cl 2-3-3-6 should be possible?
(with the OCZ platinum kit, 2x 1GB, DDR400, Cl 2-3-2-5)
Can anyone list a few of the top 2gb kit clockers? I may be making the move to 2gb soon, and wanted to know which I should be looking at... of course, I go for the better bang for my buck, but still would like to know what comparisons to make. :)
It seems to really be a case of pure luck finding a good pair of 2 X 1 gb overclockers :(
With the UUUC chips there seems to be seriously 3D stability problems on later chip batches which I, and others, and experiencuing with Mushkin Redline XP4000 > http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/....php?p=1218163
Haven't really looked into other brands yet...but if they use the same chips, the same issue is there...but gskill and corsair comes to mind...
This review mentions same issues> http://www.3dxtreme.net/index.php?id=oczebpc4000p4
I still don't know if it's worth going to a 2gb kit.
Does it help that much with a dual-core??
I just got a set of the OCZ pc4000 xtc and right now they are running 275 with 3-4-4-8 timings and 2.6v.
I think you may be getting your IC's confused, I know I certainly have before. Both links you provide and the associated 3D stability problems refer to RAM based on newer batches of Infineon CE-6 based parts, e.g., OCZ EB PC4000, Mushkin XP4000 Redlines which do not overclock nearly as well as previous Infineon CE-5. Samsung UCCC based RAM is giving the higher overclocks right now but at the price of looser memory timings than what the Infineon parts will do at 250MHz. Hope that helps, so anyone contemplating the OCZ EB's or Redlines should not expect to see the same results as folks that bought theirs a month or more ago. BTW, the UCCC 2GB kits cost about $100 USD less than the Infineon 2GB kits. Right now I am really digging my $200 AMR Mushkin 2GB XP4000 non-Redline UCCC @ 275 MHz 3-4-4-8Quote:
Originally Posted by -.-PhanTom-.-
Quote:
Originally Posted by thinkingbear
Ahh thnx for clearing that up, mate! ;)
I guess in my frustration I didn't pay enough attention to detail....easy to get frustrated when you have paid top dollar for what you thought was a premium product and then it only goes a little over spec :(
a new add for the list
Twinmos Speed premium PC3500
ending code 1ACMT
Chips Hynix D-43
EL DDR PC3200 Gold --chip--> Winbond New BH5 ~ Brainpower PCB
you can add OCZ ref (OCZ4001024ELDCGE-K)
are you sure about that?Quote:
Originally Posted by 200%absolut
one member recently reported he got that ACMT and ICs were marked PSC which is Powerchip.
i have one stick in hand and it's hynix chip. Do you have more information about this ICs?
I receive this stick from twinmos RMA last week.
EDIT: after a quick search i've perhaps find the chips you are talking about :
Twinmos Twinmos Ram /w Sticker ending: CADT PowerChip
http://www.techpowerup.com/memdb/
could you take a look at ICs on your TwinMOS and write down the entire label?
Twinmos
05036M
TMD7608F8E44F
thanks.
i did search the forums a bit and now it seems i misunderstood the other member with ACMT TwinMOS. it seems his ICs aren't PSC labeled, but rather that his retailer told his they were PSC:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=85046
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...49229&page=127
(starting from post #3170)
200%absolut, did you try OCing that TwinMOS of yours? 250MHz should be easy for Hynix.
i haven't tested it (P4P800Vm 2.65V max :( )
But if it the same chips as ADATA DDR500 250 will of course be easy
So we can update the list :D
I thought that Hynix didn't really like much above 2.7v anyways... at least the D43s (both a 512 kit and a 1gig kit) and D50s I've had never liked much voltage... I think my 1gig kit worked well with 2.7v, and my 512mb kit worked well with 2.7-2.8v, but those were Kingston value, and Buffalo PC4200.Quote:
Originally Posted by 200%absolut
Do any of you know what chips the XMS3200C2 v. 5.2 possesses? I've got a pair of those (which are going back to where I brought them), the test run I did got them up to 230MHz 2-3-2-5 1T, which was quite nice for what I paid for them.
But the chips remain the question, I'm just a bit curious.
what was the Vdimm ? Have you try 2/2/2/5 ?
ProMOS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mean Machine
Never heard of it... I'll do some googling, I think. But thanks for the answer.Quote:
Originally Posted by high5
I got a 1GB kits from Kingston and it is a KHX 3200AK2 which supposed to be CH 5 chips...infact i found out that it is CE 5(from infineon) week 46 05.... :(
i personally know some people who OCed that v5.2 Corsair upto 240-250MHz, so its not as bad as it sounds... :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mean Machine
Correction on...
"EL DDR PC3700 Platinum Edition (2-3-3-8) --chip--> Samsung TCC5 (new production) ~ Brainpower PCB"
I just took a peak under my spreader and it's definitely "TCCD"! Not to say that they are all TCCD, as I wouldn't know, but mine is for sure TCCD.
Mine: OCZ DDR EL PC3700 Platinum Edition (2-3-3-8) --chip--> Samsung TCCD
lucky u,Quote:
Originally Posted by g0dM@n
i did also take a peek and i found infineon i/c in my kits....damn!! i'm burning them at 3.41v right now....:banana:
What kits? The same ones I have? I thought they were all Samsung TCC5 (and also TCCD now that I verified).
What infineon chips are they, and how do they perform? 3.41v?!
CE-5 and it is rubbish....3.41 only stabilize around 235mhz with 2.5-3-2-5,Quote:
Originally Posted by g0dM@n
i was hopping getting a CH's but finally opened up the HS only to find an Infineon chip is inside...