Thanks! I was running the 626 bios and only 1 was showing up. 708 and 710 have the 2 and that has fixed the 6x idle thing. Thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
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Thanks! I was running the 626 bios and only 1 was showing up. 708 and 710 have the 2 and that has fixed the 6x idle thing. Thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
here are the bolts, nuts and insulating washer that i used to secure the heatsinks...the push pins are really inadequate.
Excellent info Ace a rue, may have to give this a try myself.
If I can buy all the bits I need.
i used AS Ceramique on the PWM mosfets and then MX2 paste on the NB & SB chipsets.
my parts came from home depot.
Need a little help to pass 550fsb. :D i can do 535x10 easily but @ 550 i always get a freeze.
settings: 550x10 @ 1,55 vcore cooled by Evap
RAM 2,3 V - 4-4-4-10 PL 9 with active cooling
vtt 1,2 V
NB about 1,35 - 1,4 V no difference
gtl 63%
gtl 67%
MCH 64 %
Glock gen:
CPU SKEW 200ps
MCH SKEW 100ps
Driving Control 800mV
i am on Bios 710. Can somebody explain detailed these ddr2 Rcomp Config to me ? Donīt know what to do with :D
tia
my recoomendations are in red next to yours....these are suggestions; maybe something might click for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sauron_Vie
i found 200 difference between CPU Skew and MCH Skew worked a whole lot better...i used 100/300, 200/400 and 300/500 with success.
before moving any other settings, try higher ram settings first because yours look to tight for high FSB that you have now.
One more question im currently at 2.8GHz (400X7) i am aiming for a high FSB, low multiplier but when i change the FSB to 432 for 2.9GHZ my DRAM frequency goes up really high (862) i dont think my ram could take that much.
Any ideas on what i need to change (im not good when it comes to overclocking ram/timings/dividers) so that my DRAM Frequency does not increase, (other then changing the multiplier) would it be the static tREAD (currently at auto) i know its the divider but i dont know how to change it, i read that 3:5 is good for 400FSB and up.
http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/9404/28ghzyl5.jpg
Sauron_Vie, what PLL voltage You are running?
Ace-a-Rue, have You any info about newer BIOS coming?
One thing that frustrates me is that voltage control options have too big steps. For example PLL 1,5; 1,6 etc...
i emailed asia tech support to see if there is one available...no answer yet...biostar USA said they do not deal with beta bioses.Quote:
Originally Posted by ceemic
AGREE!..ticks me off!;)Quote:
One thing that frustrates me is that voltage control options have too big steps. For example PLL 1,5; 1,6 etc...
finally got it wired down for stability!:up:
below bios images are shown with an QX9650 cpu installed (same images on 1st page of thread)
https://home.comcast.net/~captain-is...tar/bios-5.jpg
https://home.comcast.net/~captain-is...tar/bios-6.jpg
https://home.comcast.net/~captain-is...tar/bios-7.jpg
https://home.comcast.net/~captain-is...tar/bios-8.jpg
https://home.comcast.net/~captain-is...tar/bios-9.jpg
this board and all other intel chipset boards raise the DDR mhz when you raise the FSB mhz...right now, you are in a 1-to-1 memory ratio which is the safest setting while trying to find the highest overclock.Quote:
Originally Posted by Damian^
don't forget that the memory is working twice the speed of your FSB in Dual Channel mode.
looks as if the this bolt-mod and using Ceramique and MX2 thermal paste has improved stability on this board and my QX9650.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
still experimenting with memory settings...they seem to be very critical as you approach the maximum FSB, at least for a QX9650; probably due to the dual L2 cache on this puppy!;)
currently at 490 FSB (at 8x), which is a hard FSB to hold for a QX9650...i am doing Prime 95 right now to make sure it is fairly stable before going to 500 FSB...it took some tweaking on the memory to get me there...i am about 30 minutes into Prime...before, i would freeze the puter after 1 minute of Prime 95.
one thing i've noticed is the heat coming off from the PWM area is very warm...i measured the temp right at a capacitor under the upper corner of the PWM heatsink; it read 75C..very toasty!:)
i have to admit that i was about to give up on this board for a high end Quad...it took some patience to get me where i am now...fairly easy for a dual core to overclock and maybe the low end yorkie quads, but this Extreme Quad has been a rascal to conqueror on this board...it showed promise unlike other boards where there was absolutely no chance to get above 475 to 480 FSB, unless you had Phase cooling.
@Ace: many thks for the infos, will try your settings today. if i can pass the 550fsb i will let u know. ;) btw great clock with the qx.. maybe i will try mine also on this board.
@ceemic: i tried with 1,5 and 1,6V, but i think i will go now with 1,6v to pass the 550fsb wall.
thanks SV....been working hard at understanding this board, at least for the quad...the IP35 Pro board had a very similar problem with the heatpipe system; woefully inadequate TIM material to interface the chipsets and PWM mosfets...once i did the mod on the heatpipe system for that board, everything settled down with stability...enough heat can make a system sort of unstable especially when you are taxing the system with benches and prime.
Ace-a-Rue, some more questions to You.
What mean exactly these settings and what do You recommend for 24/7 and for "max" OC.
Hardware Prefetcher
Adjacent Cache Line Prefetch
Execute-Disable Bit Capability
FSB Compensation FineTune
Thanks!
Anyone running trifire or crossfire 4870/3870's on this board?
I'm looking to tri-fire some ati's. My dfi x38 just isn't cutting it. They got a bios out for the dual gpu's. For some reason I was getting better scores with just the one card..? :shrug:
max OC is going to depend on your limits with voltages and memory settings.Quote:
Originally Posted by ceemic
these are new to me...i presume if you disable them, they will sort of neuter your cpu....my best guess!:)Quote:
Hardware Prefetcher
Adjacent Cache Line Prefetch
this one i would leave enable unless you want to bench...what this does is reserve a certain section of memory that no program, including viruses, can occupy...it is a safety thing for the user.Quote:
Execute-Disable Bit Capability
i am thinking this is like the old "Spread Spectrum"...it is not conducive for overclocking so leave it disabled.Quote:
FSB Compensation FineTune
this board has only two 16x PCIe slotsQuote:
Originally Posted by OnDborder
looks like 490 FSB is it for my QX9650..that is about 15 Mhz better on the FSB when compared to other boards...in that regard this board is better...i presume, if Biostar can tweak this bios to be in more harmony with the Extreme cpu's, 500 FSB would be a workable FSB for 9650's.
Sorry, I should have been more specific..Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
A 4870x2 and a 4870. Maybe that would be classified as crossfire? :shrug:
its called CrossfireX these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnDborder
Im loving this thread if all goes well my I45 comes this week.
If someone interested, Vdroop mod works:
http://ceemic.pri.ee/hardware/tpower/tpower_mod01.jpg
http://ceemic.pri.ee/hardware/tpower/tpower_mod02.jpg
http://ceemic.pri.ee/hardware/tpower/tpower_mod03.jpg
http://ceemic.pri.ee/hardware/tpower/tpower_mod04.jpg
http://ceemic.pri.ee/hardware/tpower/tpower_mod05.jpg
I used 20k VR, but 10k should do also.
Yes of course :D I meant these settings I pointed out...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
But thanks explaining them :)
Managed now to boot straight with fsb 550 into windows :D
Guys, do you know what are the differences between Rev5.0 and 5.1?
Sauron_Vie
What is the batch number of your CPU and what Vid is it?
subscribed, this board is on the way to my house right now, had to get it from ncix though as newegg still will not allow me to order from them.
OH, now i understand:)...i have to admit that i am not in tune with crossfire capabilities.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnDborder
as i take my heel of my hand and slam it against my forehead!:D...dumb me!:p:Quote:
Originally Posted by ceemic
NICE GOING!...AWESOME!:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sauron_Vie
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sauron_Vie
Finally, I did 572, just put 0.4 or 0.5 on the VNB and 0.35 or 0.4 on the VFsb (don't remember as I sold the board)
I had to tweak clockgen configuration at 100 / 200 / 400 / 800 for that. Other settings were at stock ( means auto) except my ram @ 2.6v to hit 571 cas 4
Good ventilation on NB and Ram ( changed the tim by as ceramique on NB and PWM), too many volt doesn't work for me , and I never could hit the magic 600+ fsb ( only once via setfsb, but not bootable)
That's what I did on 40GP 1M:
http://pix.nofrag.com/a/5/0/af497859...8c938ac3tt.jpg
I Found this board a little bit weak in PI calculation , my IP35 pro gave me better scores in SPI 1M and 32M ?
in my case, with an E8500, i found the opposite..go figure, huh!Quote:
Originally Posted by tomati
maybe a low end Quad user on this board can pipe in on how it is performing, but i think for Extreme quads it is not as good as it is for the dual cores...i hope biostar gets the message and tunes the bios for Extreme and also, tweak the memory settings so one minor change doesn't require it to shut down and start up again.
Here is my feedback on the board for current and prospective owners to be of some help.
E8500 E0
TRUE (I need to lap it, I have noticed that the bottom is convex)
Scythe Flex F
PC Power Cooling Silencer 750W
I haven't had time to tweak.
Everything is at Default.
This is what I did for quick testing:
-Disable the features that affect cpu vcore and multiplier on the CPU Configuration page.
-Set the max voltages I am comfortable with on the Voltage Configuration page which are...
Vcore +0.15
NB +0.35
FSB +0.25
DDR +0.30
-Set DDR to run 1:1
-Relax the timings on the DDR Configuration Page.
RComp:2
PL=11
SPD:disable
6-6-6-24......
Results:
#560x8....I ran prime for 15-20 minutes and then stopped it. It looked good.
#570x8....Prime errored after 2 minutes.
#585x8....Ran SuperPi 1M.
#595x8....No Boot
#480x9.5....Prime errored after 2 minutes....570x8~480x9.5 I did that to see if it was the motherboard holding at 570. Same result so it was the CPU.
#480x9.5....VCore +0.20 this time. I ran prime for 30 minutes and then stopped it. It looked good. (not comfortable with 1.40-1.41V idle though.)
There is a lot of room for improvement for CPU Overclock using:
*Better Cooling
*More Voltage
*GTL Settings
*Clock Configuration (Skews...)
For Reference on Temperatures:
at load with VCore +0.15
Ambient 26
Core Temp 62-63 (TJ MAx being 100)
CPU Temp 56
Sys Temp 34
I have some screenshots but they are over the attachment size limit.
Pros:
*Good Overall Overclocker.. But I don't know how it stacks up to Asus P5Q series etc...
*CPU temperature LED on the motherboard. Nice touch.
*I like the TPower2 Utility also the hardware monitor snapshot.
*System temps are very low. (34 at load too good to be true?) I like the heatsink attachment even though I am not sure if it is benefiting since it is getting the hot air from the TRUE. I did not remove it to test since I am not motherboard FSB limited.
Cons:
*Bad spot for the Clear CMOS jumper. It is right under the first PCIE video card.
*I can't comment on the memory overclocking yet. But I did not like the RCOMP configuration setting. (do you guys know that it does?) I had to play around with it to get the computer stable. AUTO didn't help.
*VCore options!!. It jumps from +0.15 to +0.20 on the list. If it had smaller increments, I could have upped my VCore a little bit more. I only have an option to go with ~1.36 or ~1.41V now.
*VDroop.. at idle 1.360V
at load 1.336V
*I don't know if it is the sensor, my power supply (which I think is decent) or the voltage regulators on the motherboard but the Vcore moves between 1.352-1.360-1.368 at idle.
Is this too much fluctuation? Can it be a drawback of 4 phase analog PWM?
One thing i noticed with this board with the bolt mod is that its real flexible.
In order to get proper pwm contact (it bows real easy) I used a stick on rubber foot between the motherboard and the case.(between the pwm heat sink mounting bolts)
any pictures to show so i can get a better feel for what you have described?Quote:
Originally Posted by _G_
Its already installed but the rubber foot is a little taller than a case standoff and is stuck to the back of the motherboard in the center of the pwm area between the pwm heat sink screws. hope i can get it up and running before Ike gets here lol
Ace, here is my latest result from my "low end quad .."
Speaking of WPrime, how is your WP1024 doing on that overpriced cpu of yours? :cool:
Speed was actually 4066
/add: Kidding aside, you were absolutely correct about the heat sensitivity of the NB. From day one I had a Zalman 90 sitting on my vid card blowing air on the NB and ram. The other day I picked up a cheap clip on ram cooler (TT cyclo 15 bucks at Frys). I pulled off the Zalman and forgot to put it back on. The next few days my machine was flaky and just strange. Remembered the fan, sat it back on the vid card and all stabilized again. Long and short, for anything over 466, folks are going to need a fan on the whole NB area and doing your bolt mod, or something similar, to make damn sure it is being cooled. Specially so with water cooling as there is no cpu fan to bleed air on the area.
i am more interested in you highest FSB where you could run a successful SUPER PI 32m Or Hyper PI 32M.Quote:
Originally Posted by ddogg
where are you in florida?Quote:
Originally Posted by _G_
I have added the screenshots for my previous post on the E8500.Quote:
Originally Posted by DiscoTech
More impressions:
For people working with Quad Cores:
After the E8500 , I put in the Q9450.
There was a FSB wall at 450. It was prime stable at 448x8 but wouldnt even boot at 450. Very frustrating.
I changed the CPU Clock Skew to 200 and the MCH GTL ref to 64%, then it started acting normal. I didn't know they were this sensitive to these adjustments but I hadn't had this problem on the ABit IP35 Pro.
Voltages set same as above but there is more vdroop. it is down to 1.32 at load.
The EO stepping must be running hot because I got almost the same temperatures with the quad core as those of the dual core E0.
Results:
#480x8 Ran Prime for 15-20 minutes then I stopped it.
#485x8 Errors Prime after 4-5 minutes.
#490x8 Prime error 1st minute.
For the overall cpu overclock, I am roughly at the same numbers as I was On the Abit. But I can't compare since I never had to deal with skew and gtl settings on the Abit and on the other hand Abit had more Vcore at load 1.35 vs the 1.32 on the Biostar.
Abit needed more VFsb and more VMch to be stable at the same clock which is expected being the older chipset.
Why would I possibly benchmark a quad on 1 core? I was just curious if your higher FSB actually could do more work than my lowly 9450. You should be able to do a 1024 in something like 298 and leave a big old bootprint on my backside. Of course, If your overpriced relic can't cut the mustard, who am I to say anything? :D :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
hey smart alec!:mad:...go to another forum if you want to berate a fellow poster...that attitude is unwanted at XS...you would be welcomed with open arms at [H] forum..you would fit right in with your snot-nose attitude!:down:Quote:
Originally Posted by ddogg
dude, i was just picking fun with you. I thought we got along. Sorry to upset you, very much.:confused:
you need to go back to penmanship class.
And you need to quit posting thousands of useless vanity posts with absolutely zero value. Sorry again I punched some odd personal hot button about your chip. Honestly was meant in a very fun, picking at you, let's laugh together type of way. Jeeze, man, get a life. This ain't all there is. You're embarrassing yourself and everybody else.
So, on to another subject. See the first page of this thread. This is what I was hoping to see from your benches. If you can't, it starts to say something negative about this TP-I 45, not your skills or your cpu. I like this mb, but it does have it's quirks.
hey son, go back to high school and re-educate yourself properly on HOW to read and then HOW to WRITE a sentence with demonstated meaning!!!!!
if you haven't notice, i started this thread big-boy!:rofl::ROTF::clap::welcome:
I have seen you have started a lot of threads. Seems to be important to your ego. Just try to post concrete and useful content, instead of boosting your post count. Also, when you get yourself stuck in a ditch, don't keep digging yourself deeper. Your acting like some kind of a nut or a drunk. OK, I've unsubscribed. Frankly, I can't really deal with your need for ego gratification. :down:
thank GOD and good BYE!:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by ddogg
What did you use to flash the BIOS ACE-a-Rue? I am thinking about doing that but i have never flashed a BIOS before.
the 2nd link in my signature will take you to my post which shows you where to download the flashing tool and to set up your USB flash drive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Damian^
I need help oc my Q9550. I have no idea how to oc on this board.
if someone can add me on msn. yahoo, aim ect lmk.
Well i'm sure that in such a big topic you'll find some usefull information ;)
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=307Quote:
Originally Posted by freaksavior
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=313
thats a Q9450 but its should be a start
and heres a QX9650
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=357
Ace-a-Rue, Ace-a-Rue!
Thanks for starting this thread. It is good to have another resource available for exploring its overclocking potential. I purchased my TPower around a week or so before you and I've spent alot of time overclocking it. I've been lurking here for quite sometime and I've also wanted to post but I had some diffulculties joining Xtreme Systems. I want to thank HousERat for pointing me in the right direction. I started with an E8400 and OCZ Reaper PC2-1066 (2x2gb) and have moved on to an E8600 and OCZ Reaper PC2-9200 (2x1GB). I also now have 2 sticks of 1gb Kingston HyperX PC2-9200 (spec 2.3v) and I'm expecting 2 sticks of 1gb Patriot Viper Extreme PC2-9600 (spec 2.3v) on Monday. Having compatible highspeed memory is important to achieving good overclocks and I hope the Patriots mesh nicely with one of the 4 RCOMPS. I'm looking forward to participating here.
Offthread: Since I had an extra E8400 available I just purchased a Biostar TP45 HP this week from NewEgg ($100). It has a very similar feature set to the TPower but it is a completely different circuit board and I think a less sophisticated power regulation design. Today I've got it running at 7x575 1/1 with OCZ PC2-9200... not too bad for a relatively low-cost board!
-PolRoger
WELCOME PolRoger!:up:
i have bios shots for my 9650 and E8500 on the first page of this thread...the settings for 9650 were good for one hour of Prime 95...it should give you a good starting point...i was experimenting with GSkill PC6400 and Corsair Dominators PC 9136...the bios images were using PC6400 2 x 2gb.
not bad for TP45 HP board for $100 smackers;)...can you run and complete a Super PI 32M at 575 FSB?
look on the first page of this thread..i show bios images for the E8500 and QX9650...they should help you get started.Quote:
Originally Posted by freaksavior
good luck!...keep coming back here with your questions...we'll try our best to answer them...we are here to help.:up:
ok, bios booted at 3.99 but failed windows as soon as it showed. just booted into windows at 3.91 and the same setting (litterally) as your qx settings.
i am dying to hit 4.0 as most 9550 i read will do it. Im on water as it says in my sp and my temps are pretty low.
what should i do?
edit: running occt now.
edit 2: failed after 3 min, didn't crash just failed.
@Ace-a-Rue - Re:TP45 HP 32M superpi completed in 12m 8.235s at 575fsb.
Here is my first 600fsb overclock with my TPower. It is bootable to windows. I had to relax the memory timings a little because I didn't want to go over 2.272v on my OCZ PC2-9200. Maybe with some other higher voltage sticks I could do better.
FSB(Bsel) to Northbridge Latch: FSB1333
FSB Compensation Finetune: Disable
DDR2 Enhanced Mode: Disable
RCOMP: Config. 2
Static tRead: 10T
Configure DRAM to SPD: Disable
5
5
5
18
with
DRAM tRFC: 49
Refresh Counter: 3120T
CPU Clock Skew: 200ps
GMCH Clock Skew: Auto
CPU Clock Driving: Auto
CPU: +0.200v (1.392v)
DDR: +0.400v (2.272v)
Chipset: +0.250v (1.304v)
FSB: +0.300v (1.384v)
Core 1 GTL: 0.63 VTT
Core 2 GTL: 0.63 VTT
MCH VTL: Auto
CPU VTL: 1.5
hey gys,
my i45 arrives nxt week. im looking at grabbing some ram for it.
any opinions on these - http://www.mtechcomputers.com.au/pro...oducts_id=4765
i am hopeing to get 1200 mhz .
if not whats a good set for this board?
@adya
My OCZ Reaper PC2-9200 will run 1150 at around 2.1v and 1200 with 2.272v they seem to work well with the bios setting RCOMP 2. I have the newer lower volt revision which I think has different IC from the older 2.3v sticks. Your choice could run well but one never knows until you actually try them.
i currently have those same sticks and i got to say that i'm little bit disappointed with mine.. atleast mine aren't great clockers at all so i would recommend you to get something else.. mine did around 630mhz (or 1260 mhz) with the stock latencies :( i've tested em with 4 different boards and haven't been able get em higher. in some review they have been able to get those sicks to 660mhzQuote:
Originally Posted by adya
but u are able to reach 1200mhz stable? thats not that bad, if i can get that far ill be happy . im looking at 24/7 use not for bench results. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Solarfall
1200mhz is the stock speed of those sticks so im pretty sure that your able to reach it :DQuote:
Originally Posted by adya
For a system running default, is this board stable?
Is it better than ASUS P45?
I have a P5Q-E and I don't like it at all, so I'm thinking in trading it for this one. Am I doing a good choice?
anyone noticed this ?
when you set cpu +200 in the volt options that volt actually drops to 1.180+-
when i set +250 its fine but thats like 2.440v wich is a bit much.
is 1.48-1.5 to much for a Q9550?
I do not have one, but my E8600 seems ok under water with those voltages. You have water so..........:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by freaksavior
Over 5GHz
http://valid.x86-secret.com/cache/banner/414515.png
Aint this a little so so for a raid0 of raptors ?
It did a bit better on my nforce 6.
http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/6508/raid0oc9.jpg
Why dont you try making a OS slice that would speed things up a bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by DoomSayer
CN :)
so i should be ok?Quote:
Originally Posted by jaggerwild
do you have the Intel Raid Matrix driver installed in windows and the have the write-back cache enabled within?Quote:
Originally Posted by DoomSayer
which windows system?
cant get to 4.
thx that did the trickQuote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/6...ntelraibs4.png
looks nice!:up:
My first sub 10 second Super Pi 1M. :)
I used my new Kingston HyperX PC2-9200 2X1GB (spec 2.30-2.35v). I've been having some trouble getting them to run at high speeds (so far just DDR2-1098) but they hold tight timings at 500fsb 1/1 ratio. This was with RCOMP Config. 3
Got this board up and running and im liking it alot :D
The best thing is that Ghost works perfectly with this board, very usefull when you currupt the os lol.
that is wonderful!Quote:
Originally Posted by PolRoger
now, where is your Super PI 32M?
I'm trying to get my hands on a Q9550 with E0 stepping right now!
Friend of me managed 471*8,5, resulting in 4003mhz on his Q9550, this is stepping C1, and E0 is even better! :D
~ Mortis360
Hi guys,
I'm in the UK and bought this board last week :) Although I've been into PCs, games, Linux etc for years and am the unofficial Windows support guy for everyone I know, this was my first actual build. I've learnt a lot about hardware this year, and this is my first overclock :yepp:
Specs are:
Biostar TPower I45, E8600 (Q820A670), 2x2GB OCZ Reaper HPC PC26400, GeForce 8600GT, 500GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.11. Cooled on air by OCZ Vendetta 2 (120mm) and running on an Akasa 500W Paxpower PSU.
Having set the RAM in the BIOS to its default 2.1v and set the timings slightly slack (5,5,5,15 instead of 4,4,4,15) I booted to Windows. Pushing the FSB alone got me to 10x420 and with +0.125 on the CPU volts to be 'safe' I was cruising at 4.2Ghz. This passed 10.5 hours of prime (blend) but failed prime (small ffts) after about half an hour :confused: Here I am 10.5 hours into prime blend:
http://www.rainmakersrealm.com/image...hos-stable.jpg
No matter what I tried I couldn't get it past 10x420 without getting BSODs or failing prime within 60 seconds flat. I was advised on a UK forum to go back to stock, and push each bit of hardware separately so I understood my components more. With most settings set to auto, on a low multi (6x) I got 500FSB before Windows (Vista Ultimate) failed to boot. Then on 10x multi but underclocking by FSB (10x275 for example) I had my RAM on an upwards divider running 550Mhz (1100Mhz DDR2) so I know my RAM can clock well also.
So, I'm stuck :D Basically it feels like this board has a lot to offer, but being such an OC n00b I'm holding myself back! TBH I'd have been better off (in the short term) buying an Asus P5Q - everyone and his dog has those and there is a ton of easy "Here's the settings - go get a 4.5Ghz stable oc" posts around. But then, I'm more technically minded than that and don't want an oc just "giving" to me; I want to learn and earn mine!
I have spent a week reading, and I know the chipset volts etc will need playing around with. But as it's my first OC and I'm the only guy I know in the UK with a built Biostar rig, help hasn't been easy to find. I did find some settings posted by a guy on a forum, and they got me to 4.5Ghz (10x450) after setting the Northbridge latch to 1333 and upping the FSB and chipset volts by 0.3. I could cruise in Windows all day long at low temps, watch video, play games, etc, but it fails prime in about 30 seconds on core 2 :p:
http://www.rainmakersrealm.com/image...5-unstable.png
I'm sorry this is long, I've left out my detailed BIOS settings on purpose for now until someone decides to take pity on me and help. I didn't want my first post on XS to be a great big essay... Too late? :ROTF:
Thanks in advance, great work so far Ace... this thread is awesome! Also, a huge thanks to Fugger :up:
Cheers,
Lee
Can you post your bios settings ?
Also on a side note.
Whenever i restart my pc instead of doing a shutdown i get the thing where the mobo starts the pc 3 times and fails.
Then all i got to do is save and it boots fine again.
Any solution to this ?
For the 4.2Ghz as above (10.5hrs prime blend stable, fails prime small ffts):
Intel SpeedStep: Disabled
Ratio CMOS Setting: x10
CPU Frequency Setting: 420
Over Clock Retry Count: 2
FSB (Bsel) to Northbridge Latch: Auto
DRAM Frequency: DDR2 840Mhz
DDR2 Enhance Mode: Disabled
DDR2 RCOMP Configuration: Auto Config
Static tREAD Value: Auto
Configure DRAM Timing by SPD: Disabled (4,4,4,15)
PCIE Frequency Setting: 100
CPU Clock Skew Control: Auto
(G)MCH Clock Skew Control: Auto
CPU Clock Driving Control: Auto
CPU Voltage: +0.125 (VID is 1.25, this gives 1.328 under load in Windows)
DDR Voltage: +0.300 (giving the 2.14v for my RAM which is between the rated 2.1 to 2.2v)
Chipset Voltage: Auto
FSB Voltage: Auto
CPU Core1 GTL Ref Voltage: 0.63*VTT
CPU Core2 GTL Ref Voltage: 0.67*VTT
MCH GTL Ref Voltage: Auto
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.5v
For the 4.5Ghz as above (Windows stable, passes wprime stability, fails Orthos/prime95 in seconds, fails Intel Burn Test with a BSOD)
Intel SpeedStep: Disabled
Ratio CMOS Setting: x10
CPU Frequency Setting: 450
Over Clock Retry Count: 2
FSB (Bsel) to Northbridge Latch: FSB 1333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2 900Mhz
DDR2 Enhance Mode: Disabled
DDR2 RCOMP Configuration: Configuration 2
Static tREAD Value: 10T
Configure DRAM Timing by SPD: Disabled (5,5,5,18)
PCIE Frequency Setting: 100
CPU Clock Skew Control: 200ps
(G)MCH Clock Skew Control: Auto
CPU Clock Driving Control: Auto
CPU Voltage: +0.2 (VID is 1.25, this gives 1.4 under load in Windows - too high for 45nm??)
DDR Voltage: +0.300 (giving the 2.14v for my RAM which is between the rated 2.1 to 2.2v)
Chipset Voltage: +0.275
FSB Voltage: +0.325
CPU Core1 GTL Ref Voltage: 0.63*VTT
CPU Core2 GTL Ref Voltage: 0.63*VTT
MCH GTL Ref Voltage: Auto
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.5v
I hope this is what you required, thanks in advance for your time and efforts :)
i had the same and it is either your voltage(s) is low or could be you CPU GTL REF or MCH GTL REF...try raising your vcore first and then see if you can duplicate the problem....if that does not correct it try another voltage and setting...the whole idea is do only ONE change at a time....if you do multiple changes at one time, you will never know what is causing that.Quote:
Originally Posted by DoomSayer
put MCH GTL REF to 64%...i believe that will go a long way to stabilize the system.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rainmaker
don't be afraid of raising the voltages..the whole idea is find a stable overclock and once you find that, you can try to reduce ONE voltage at a time to see if it gives you the same results.
other recommendations in red within your quote.
thanks for the pat on the back; very much appreciated.
Wow. I'm seriously impressed, and I genuinely mean that. Thank you very much indeed for the input Ace :up: 5* thread rating from me :clap: I'll let you know how I get on, thanks again.
:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rainmaker
you can also raise CPU PLL to either 1.6 or 1.7v
good luck!
Again, Ace, thank you. Had you been in the UK you'd have been drinking beer on me tonight! I'm currently 25 mins into Orthos (small FFTs) at 4.4Ghz. 4.5 fell over even under fairly high CPU/chipset/fsb voltage (vcore = 1.49 under load in Windows) and even then the temps were hitting 70oC - too high.
So I'm hoping with tweakage I should at least get 4.45Ghz stable even once the CPU vcore volts come down to more sensible levels. You've helped me over a huge hurdle, and I tip my hat to you. Before now I was thinking maybe my RAM was too low spec (should'a got the 1066 I thought) but now it seems I just needed someone clever enough to tweak the I45 itself :)
I will, of course, report back tomorrow with some nice long stability shots for you provided all goes well :yepp:
keep chug-a-lugging!:D
i've been at this board long enough to know where to tweak...some of my tips have come from other posters in this thread...so...it is not all my brain-storming;)
ace what departmemt did you find the fiber washer in home depo
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the dummy here didnot know what a fiber washer was.
it is in the row that has the pre-package nuts, screws and bolts...in that row or isle, they also have the drawers of hardware parts...i got the fiber washer out of one of the drawers.Quote:
Originally Posted by scorpion
thanks ace!!!!
Hm, either I have the worst E8600 to date or I didn't set it up right yet. To summarise, Ace's settings have helped me overcome a huge hurdle so far. I couldn't boot past 10x425 without huge issues. With the new settings as above I can run much better. I noticed though that even now, 10x425 boots fine as does 10x435 but 10x430 plain refuses to even post! Is this what I've read to be called 'FSB hole'?? Anyway, I'm priming away (almost 2 hours now) on Orthos with small FFTs. Great so far. The ONLY issue (and it's a huge one for me) is that the CPU volts required are 1.44 in Windows under load :eek:
http://www.rainmakersrealm.com/image...-3-pending.jpg
There's only one guy in the UK on our database so far with volts even nearly that high, and he's running at 5Ghz (yes 5Ghz) never mind 4.3!! Did I break it? LOL Temps are still OK though, surprisingly. I have a lot of chipset and FSB volts at the mo (I can't check without killing Orthos before the run finishes but they're on the last 'yellow' setting before they go 'red' if that helps lol).
Argh, just my luck to save for two months and end up with the worst chip in the UK for overclocking :mad::p: That or I'm missing something obvious in the mobo config? I'll post settings when I've got an 8 hour Orthos screenshot.
Could incorrect/low mobo settings somehow be counter-acted by a high CPU voltage? I.E. maybe it doesn't NEED these huge volts if I set the mobo up differently? Or do I definitely just have a cruddy clocker? Shame though as I'm 24 hour "Windows Vista stable" at 4.6Ghz on 1.39 volts. Puzzling tbh, but then I'm new :confused:
can i get some help?
i did the setting you did ace for the QX9650, and it didn't work for my 9550, its ok though, i palyed with it some more and i got 3.91 but had to push about 1.5 v, wich i know for a 45nm is to much.
I need help getting this thing to 4.0, i know not all chips will do 4, but i am hoping mine will with 1.4ish volts.
think about it realistically...you have a 1100 mhz boost, right?...i'd say you are doing good...my 9650 makes 1000 mhz fairly easy...but as soon as i try to go higher then it starts breaking down.Quote:
Originally Posted by freaksavior
for all those guys worrying about overdoing your voltages on your 45nm cpu's you need to read this thread...very interesting study going on right now:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=198614
Just for reference i was too lazy to RMA the board after being dead with FF code , Now already 2 week passed yesterday , i powered it up and the motherboard worked again , so go figure ,
CMOS and battery removal for one week do not help , but letting the motherboard for one week without any try result in a new system alive .
strange things happen when you totally leave it alone:)
Well Ace-Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
I tried to go back and use those same settings and now my overclock is failing. That was the first time I used +0.250 on my cpu vcore and I was able to get into windows so I ran a quick 1M and I got out. I'm still doing some limited exploring of stability around 1.45v but I don't think it is going to be 4.75Ghz.
P.S. Thanks for the link to BenchZowner's 45nm high voltage experiment.
hey guys any tips on getting over 600fsb with this board.. i've tested dozen different settings and best i've been able to get was 590 (i know for a fact that my E8600 can do over 600) there has to be something im overlooking here :confused: