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No problems with Games.Quote:
Originally Posted by musasm
I can play with Devil May Cry 4 for hours without any bugs under Vistax64.
(bios 604/)
Look at the results of a X3350 on this thread, it's +/- the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Legacy
These temps seems pretty high.. Everything in the bios was left on Auto except for Ram and I set the FSB to 450x8
What do you guys think
[IMG]http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/b...sha/prime1.gif[/IMG]
Atuo is killer. It's sets things way too high. You're gonna have to set the volts manually.
Also, what is your ambient temp?
68 F is my room temp. I wouldn't know where to start with lowereing volts.
Here is a screen shot with all my curent voltages
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/b...ha/Capture.gif
Do i see 1.78 for cpupll?Put that at lower volts fast m8 i dont think its good for your cpu.I am newbie overclocker myself but i don think this will be good for cpu.I also see 10C diffrence in your core's?
I lowered the pll to 1.62 and ran prime95 stable for 8 hrs I also lowered NB 1.27 and the FSB/Vtt 1.28..Quote:
Originally Posted by Scinner
I Prime tested this Cpu almost immidiately after installing the CPU, so maybe that's why my temps are so high?
even after letting the computer idle, core 1&3 are 40-43C core 2&4 are 33-35C. I put a very very thin layer of thermal paste on the cpu
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/b...a/Capture1.jpg
Run the realtemp core/sensor test. You may have a couple stuck.
ran sensor test
Core0= 10 Core1= 9 Core2= 11 Core3= 13
I might need to lap the CPU, I already lapped the HS and there was no differnece in temps
Case type?
i might be buying a mf2 and i have a question will this northbridge heatsink/fan work on the mf2 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835103155
or could i just put a 40mm fan on top of the asus heatsink.
o yea i also notice that the motherboard comes with this like pci slot fan but i dont know where it goes.
Finally got my board! Changed the thermalpaste of the NB and SB and also the removable heatsink on top of the NB after taking it out the box. Applied AS5, booted up withouts problems. Checked the Bios temps of the NB. 39C Idle. Now time to play with it :)
you could just mount a 40mm fan on the NB with double sided tape. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by chiman2
so 40mm is the right size and i just put a fan on top of the normal heat sink right?
any ideas on that heatsink/fan thing by cooler master?
=================Quote:
Originally Posted by chiman2
Well, I tried putting a 40mm 5,000rpm fan on top of the stock heatsink. Temps went down about 2C. As for the Coolermaster chipset cooler I dont think it would make a difference. It's just like putting a fan on top of the normal one.
I want to try the Thermalright HR-05 chipset cooler. I bet temps will be lower.
http://www.evga.com/support/faq/files/p4300029.jpg
I keep getting this picture over and over as the USB floppy drive is not read
did it like the manual in the bios set it to raid then the Ctrl+I and made a partition(also tried two partitions) made a floppy with the raid drivers and then when I try to install XP and try to press F6 it doesn't open the USB A: drive ......... it keeps asking me to put in a floppy disk
for some reason it will not load the RAID drivers from my USB floppy drive during the windows setup......... I had to use a internal one to do this.
The floppy drive and floppy works OK on another machine during the windows setup for some reason
Anyone has this problem?
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...zulu/OCCT4.jpg
Funny, how come CPU-Z Detected my Ram as DDR3??? That's weird!!
[QUOTE=xzulu;3223373
Funny, how come CPU-Z Detected my Ram as DDR3??? That's weird!![/QUOTE]
The same here, maybe CPU-Z is outdated?
I've both 604 and 901 bios in my board. The 604 is way better than 901 in terms of fsb overclocking. No problem at all using E8600 with 604 bios.
I found a way to lower my SB and NB temps! I already replaced the paste on the SB and NB to AS5 and tightened the screws.
before: 40mm 5,000rpm fan on NB
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...u/IMG_3488.jpg
now: 60mm ADDA 11.5cfm 3,500rpm fan on the NB and placed the Antec Spot Cool over the SB
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...u/IMG_3529.jpg
Temps went down 4C for both the SB and NB :up:
I figured out my G.Skill 2x2GB F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ @ 1066Mhz 1.9v runs cool on idle and on load cause of the low voltage, so it doesn't need the Antec Spot Cool. I used 3M Heavy Duty Double Sided Industrial tape to secure the 60mm fan on the NB fan :up:
Has anyone tried using a Thermalright HR-05 or the Sli version? I was at my friends place a while ago, we tried the HR-05 Sli and it can be mounted, problem was we needed longer screws just like the one used on the stock chipset heatsink.
can anyone tell me what Asus have used under the nb? Normal paste or that bloody cement? IE will i need to heat up the nb before removal?
Thanks in advance for ur help
Regards
Lloyd
Hi guys,
I just got this mobo and I must say... it ROCKS.
Now I have a Q6600 and I am looking to OC it to 3.8ghz, what should i change to make it stable?
If I just change the CPU voltage to 1.43, it fails, any ideas would be appreciated.
This is my CURRENT OC
http://i33.tinypic.com/29mkfuc.jpg
Well, Asus used some gray looking thermal paste, looks better than the regular white stuff they useQuote:
Originally Posted by Lloyd
had some fun with this board during the weekend:
first some superPi
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...otos/8093s.jpg
ran some benchmarks with the old 3dmark01 :D God i love it LOL
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...otos/99188.jpg
The Vcore is... High ^^
Nice the 607 FSB :D
Is it possible to have some tests with wPrime 32M & 1024M? I would like to see what a 45nm Dual Core is capable.
Thx
Quote:
Originally Posted by mr-rob
First run on a Q9450.. I know you asked for dual core, but I decided to post it anyways :D
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/b...sha/wprime.jpg
mmm yeah maybe i could crunch some numbers tomorrowQuote:
Originally Posted by mr-rob
:up: ThxQuote:
Originally Posted by Legacy
Nice score :D
X3350 is +/- like a Q9450:
http://images4.hiboox.com/vignettes/...fc0a5a9496.jpg
:p:
Yes!!! ThxQuote:
Originally Posted by Solarfall
I just would like to know how efficient is a C2D 45nm with higher than 4.5Ghz.
Here is a personal test:
http://images1.hiboox.com/vignettes/...98a4b9f6ce.jpg
:)
wanna watercool the NB but dont wanna rip off that sexy heatpipe contraption that this asus board has ?? well you could do this !!:D
i installed my swiftect NB block straight to the heatpipes like so.. you need to swich the mounting finns on the block the otherway arround !!! if you dont do it the block wont alling with the holes on the heatpipe cooler ;)
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...s/DSCN1275.jpg
i used the block screws that come with it the other way arround like you can see from the pic.. then just tightened until the springs went no further.
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...s/DSCN1276.jpg
READY TO ROCK :yepp:
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...s/DSCN1278.jpg
->Solarfall: I needed to cut a little the WB because contact between WB/NB is not enought ;) That's allow me to "screw it well"(sorry, don't really know how to tell this).
BTW, it seems that Swiftech is about to produce a sexy MF2 WB for NB:
http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/1...m2fx450qf7.gif
Your CPU isn't WCed???
mr-rob you dont have to cut anything if your using the same block as i am.. you will just have to swich the metal mounting finns (the shiny ones) other way arround.. the swiftech mwc-30 will fit then !! you'll just have to swich the mounting finns easy as that :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by mr-rob
nope i usually dont watercool my cpu.. cos i basically use this board just to do benching :D
I use the same as yours: Swiftech MCW-30, isn't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Solarfall
I don't really understand what you meant by "switch the mounting...".
Not a big deal :p:
:clap: I do the same!!! This board is for benching!!! :up:
Here is my bench'rig:
http://images4.hiboox.com/vignettes/...959ce6f7cf.jpg
:D:D:D
Thank you!:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Solarfall
I just had my Maximus Formula SE die a painfull death and was thinking on getting this board while waiting for Asus RMA.
The only thing holding me back was the NB cooling, I have a MCW30 and your idea is brilliant.
before you think that big OC is stable, run IntelBurnTest on Max memory usage.
it might scare the :banana::banana::banana::banana: outta ya.
So i'm leaning towards the Asus P5Q Deluxe because of the cooling for the Mosfets/NB/SB.
How's the motherboard chipset cooling for the Maximus? And is there really any big difference between the Deluxe and Max other than sound card?
My board just arrived
Are the chipset drivers on the CD upto date?
that is really sexy, u have more info on that block mr-rob? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by mr-rob
Damn, the 0901 Bios is giving me lots of problems. Crash codes in OCCT and Errors in Orthos. Im going to try the 0802 Bios....
:shrug: anyone?Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Whats the best bios todate guys, I'm going to run a Q9550 first
i've been very happy with the latest bios ( 0901) ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
It seems to come out in about 3 weeks.Quote:
Originally Posted by tjelaw
:D Yeah, it's really sexy :p:.
I'll see if I'll change my MCW-30 by this one later :cool:
I don't know for the drivers. I used to DL directly from ASUS & BTW I never used CDs provided with the boards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
For now, my favourite bios is still the 604.
Thanks guys for the info.
I'll try 604 first and move up from there.
Someone has the measures, of bridge NB???To do a domestic block, for my.
Regards
I have noticed that the 0901 bios has been removed and replaced several times on the Asus website. as of now it is posted - anyone know what is up with that?
Guys, please help me! I`ve bought M2F today. Before that i had MF.
My rig is in signature.
I reached very good result with MF. But i can`t reach the same with M2F (maybe coz of different bios which i need to learn?)
Can someone write bios config,please?
mmm try these settings:Quote:
Originally Posted by WaterFlex
cpuv:1.3v
ppl 1.51v
fsb termination voltage 1.33v
NBv: 1.37
all gtls on auto
im able to reach to 500fsb with my QX9650 (witch i see that you've been running with your xeon)
I'm priming 1.5 hours right now at 475x8.5 on a q9550Quote:
Originally Posted by WaterFlex
I'll post my bios setup shortly
hey everyone i just got the maximus 2 formula and love it. im having one problem though. im trying to install a 64 bit os and it doesnt work. all my 32 bit os's work. is there something i have to change in the bios? thanks
It doesn't work is really vague. What problems are you encountering?
lol sorry. well i make it boot from the cd drive and whenever i put in a 64 bit os it says "reboot and select boot device or put in boot media and press a key"
I would say your disk is faulty.:shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by chiman2
does 64 bit work for you? did you have to chagne any settings.
nope, just pop the disk in and sit back let her install.Quote:
Originally Posted by chiman2
hmmm. k thanks. i guess i will find a new disc. also im planning on "burning" in my cpu. and i need a program that would let me change cpu voltage in the os. i know i could use the bios but it would be more time consuming. the asus suite doesnt seem to let you do that.
I am thinking of getting this board along with 2x2Gb Dominators PC8500 and a 45nm quad. Anyone have any experience/issues with this setup? I have seem that many of you run very high PL in memory settings. Is this a board standard? In MF1 common PL was 6 or 7. Does the EK NB-Smax fit on the NB?
Grnfinger show me some good results of O/C cause i still cant make my mind over MF2 or RE :(
I had the same problem, I just popped the cd out a few times and it finally worked :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by chiman2
I
I have:
FSB: 400
FSB Termination vontage: 1.25v
PLL: 1.51
NB: 1.20
SV: 1.10
and my NB have 90º... what is the problem?
Hey guys
How's this board with the Q6600's I'm on the settings of my signature on a P5K deluxe...
Do you think it's a good board to go for ?
I was lookin' at the rampage and the P5Q deluxe but this one seems very good
Cheers
Sergio
Wel i could not get much higher then 3.6Ghz stable.But on this bord it did need less voltage like less vtt less nb and less vcore.On my mf1 it was 1.42 vtt , 1.51 Nb , and 1.41vcore.With mf2 it was vtt 1.34 Nb 1.41 and vcore 1.38.Now i use E8600 8.5x 500 with very low voltage.So for me this bord was a good buy.
What type of DVD drive are you using?Quote:
Originally Posted by chiman2
some people have problems with the IED drives, are you using a SATA DVD drive? If so then I would agree with the other guys, your CD is bad.
so........................
For those running a FULL system with this board...........
Is it worth adding the X-Fi sound card included in the bundle or would I be better off with a stand alone (retail version) X-Fi card?
I keep hearing about the card included in the bundle not being as good or still using CPU cycles and not having its own cpu to do the job for it.
sadly im using an ide drive :( so what should i do now.Quote:
Originally Posted by dctokyo
on another note i decided to do some overclocking and im at 415 fsb. e8500 3.9ghz. around 64 or a little less on load and 46 47 idle. are these temps ok?
I found it to be junk, so I went a picked up a Xonar D2X.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nasgul
hi guys, i tested the high fsb again and with 4 x 1 gb ram....
its pretty good @ 505 MHz .... but i dont come higher, i think there is a cpu-fsbwall... (dont look for the cpu voltage... usually the cpu need just 1,25V for this mhz...
http://www.abload.de/thumb/ram_505_mhzkopieii0.jpg
Have you enable the J-Micron controller? You will need this set to enable to run PATA drives.Quote:
Originally Posted by chiman2
Well it depends on your room temps, I have mine running at 3.8 at it runs around 42 to 44 as reported by HW-monitor but PC probe 2 reports it around 30 to 32. But I have a very air-flow case in the CM Cosmos-S
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nasgul
The card that comes wiht the board is not a true x-fi, it depends on software support.
Not sure about the card included in the bundle as I have not used it as I am running a PCI-e Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty .......... and that card sounds great.
get the heatsink off , reapply paste (arctic ceramique) and put a washer to put more pressure on the springs so the NB is really tied down... it has bad contact mate at the moment and is not good to continue to use the board under these conditions... you will smoke itQuote:
Originally Posted by psychopath
Hello guys. I tested my M2F and i want to say: M2F <<< MF. I can`t make PL=8 as i could reach with MF with full stable!
your NB block has a bad contact with the nb chip.. i had the same problem. you can fix this by taking off the whole nb heatsink, then clean off the thermal paste and put new layer of it to the heatsink.. then when you put your heatsink back to your board, put 2 washers where the 2 heatsink holes are located, fasten all the screws and your ready to rock :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by psychopath
There's more to life then PL8... P45 is known to have a slightly higher PL value but it's performance is comparable, do you notice the difference in day to day apps ? in Superpi yep... try static read control enable pull in etc...Quote:
Originally Posted by WaterFlex
WaterFlex do u have any everest mem benchmarks to compare? Is PL8 really give lower performance in M2F? Maybe P45 chipset is supposed to work this way, i dodnt know though.
Dctokyo how do u like your titanium fatality? Did u have any driver issues since i see in your sig you run 64bit windows. I cant make my mind between X-Fi titanium fatality or Asus Xonar D2X.Quote:
Originally Posted by dctokyo
This is Maximus Formula with PL=8:
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/9...erboarddu3.png
And this is Maximus II Formula with PL=9:
http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/6660/p45pl9ab1.png
and it is very very stable http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/574...shotdu6.th.jpg
Btw, are my volts and temps OK ?
Hi ChaosAD, I really like my titanium fatality and I have no drivers problems running xp/64 with the lastest drivers.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaosAD
I mostly play BF2 and the sounds really jump out in that game with the titanium fatality.
I got the titanium fatality because it came with the front IO console.
On this board I use the first PCI-e 1 slot which is the black one so it sits above my video card.
WaterFlex thanx for the screenshots. It seems to have a liittle drop, but there may be a bios setting to overcome this difference.
Dctokyo thanx for the reply. It seems that i ll also go for the X-Fi titanium fatality.
Do u guyz think that if i choose this mobo the best combination would me a E8600 or a Q9550?
I have both chips and I'm trying to make that decsion right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaosAD
I like the power of a quad but the higher c2d clocks will be nice.
I should have some benches and screenies today.
The bios has alot more options than MFI/Rampage so its a learning day today.
Took maybe 1/2 hour to get my 9550 stable at 450x8.5 where on the MF board I could not get it above 425! Still have to lower a few volts but for the most part I'm happy with 3825MHz
Even running a Q9550@3800, if i m lucky on the chip ofc, i guess its much faster that a q6600@3600. I wouldnt really like to downgrade from 4 cores down to 2 tbh although 4+Ghz sounds sweet :) Plz post benchmarks with Q6600+q9550+e8600 both at same clock speeds+at max clock speeds. I know its time consuming but c'mon u have all day for it :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Do u also experience the PL issue? Can u run it as low as the MF1 board? Can u run 400 strap?
I honestly dont know what PL setting I'm running.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaosAD
My everest is version 4.50.1330 and its reports "unkown motherboard"
So I'm currently sniffing for a release that supports this board.
I'm sure with pull ins enabled I can get to PL 7 or atleast 8.
I cant show you benches of a 6600, sold it long ago, BUT I can show 6700:D
It should be close enough.
Gotta cut the grass:shakes: then I'll start swapping cpus and run some tests
:D It's quite sure that running at 3800 is better than 3600 :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaosAD
There's no big deal running a lower PL, unless you absolutly want to SuperPI.
Clock2Clock Q45nm Vs Q65nm is a little better and run colder. But cost a lot more.
e8xxx with 4ghz and more is just for fun... If you just play and to basic stuffs it's nice. Just try to encode video @ 4Ghz with a C2D...-> a "poor" Q6600@3.6Ghz will perform better.
:D
Oh, you dont have kids to do the job for you? U must be more strict i think ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Yep 6700 will also do the job np.
My kids are 3 and 9, not to much help there:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaosAD
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...inger/3825.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...er/pl8MFII.png
Working on tighter timing and lower PL.
Very pleased so far, couldnt get my Quad to post past 425FSB on the Maximus. Have not tried anything higher yet, will try 500x8 shortly.
Quote:
Originally Posted by dctokyo
where do i go to enable the J-Micron controller? i mean the drive will play anything else. just wont use 64 bit discs.
i also notice you have the zalman 9700. is it suppose to be able to twist around?
I dont really like the ram performance on everest. Latency seems to high :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Waiting for 8x500 stability/bench:up:
I aslo see u run a C1 stepping chip. Anyone know if the newer E0 will be better performers?
The E0 is better, for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaosAD
Like I said I have yet to tweak the ram.
Heres a bios setup
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
CPU Clock Skew : Normal
North Bridge Clock Skew : Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1081
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Advanced 250ps
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Advanced 250ps
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Advanced 250ps
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Advanced 250ps
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Dram Read Training : AUTO
MEM OC Charger : AUTO
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level [8]
Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled
PCIE Frequency : 110
CPU Voltage : 1.35
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
FSBT : 1.33850
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
North Bridge Voltage : 1.39150
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.5
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.1
CPU GTL Reference 0 : +20mv
CPU GTL Reference 1 : +10mv
CPU GTL Reference 2 : +10mv
CPU GTL Reference 3 : +20mv
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge DDR Reference : AUTO
Load Line Calabration : Enabled
CPU Sread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Grnfinger, mate, I think it would be better for u to make 500x8 with syncro 1:1. Look my results on the previous page ;)
The only thing for sure is that the required Voltages needed for all components are much lower compared to MF1 for the same amount of OC :)
ChaosAD, I`m agree ;)
Some ram sub timing tweaks
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...finger/new.png
Grnfinger , do u see my msg above ? :)
yes I will try your suggestion shortly.Quote:
Originally Posted by WaterFlex
Trying to compare old MF settings to new board
My GSkills are limited tho, I might have to grab a new kit on Monday
Wonder if the Mushkin Xtremes work well with this board
any one i need help badly.:mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by chiman2
whats your troubles?Quote:
Originally Posted by chiman2
ok im trying to instal a 64 bit os and it wont let me. i set the boot priority to the cd drive. put my disc in and it wont work it says "reboot and select correct boot device or put in boot media in selected device and press a key" my 32 bit os disks work though? do i have to change a setting? im stuck. i really need to get a 64 bit os on.
The only time I had this issue is when I left a USB stick in the rig.Quote:
Originally Posted by chiman2
I installed Vista 64bit without changing ANY bios setting, I set my drives to raid and everything installed correctly.
Can the disk be read on another pc?
another thing you can try is... pop the cd inthe tray and while the pc is posting press F8 key till you get the boot options and select your cd rom to boot from.
Chi, you gotta read the manual!!! Everything you're getting stuck on is in there...Quote:
Originally Posted by chiman2
At a guess, not owning the board myself (yet :D, Grnfinger I'm coming out to play!!!) you want the Onboard Device Configuration menu, it's in there.
this is my only computer capable of 64 bit. maybe i should try reseting cmos?Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
i was checking the manual looking for a phone number to call and i found this.
intel em64t
o yea what bios are you running?
the motherboard comes with a bios file that supports em64t. you can download the latest bios file from the asus website (www.asus.com/support/download/) but that url doesnt work.
i will try f8 and onboard device config. thanks
will report back in 5 mins so stay tuned.:)
:confused:pressed f8 didnt work. reset bios didnt work. checked on board devices ide thing was enabled the whole time so that didnt work.
should i call asus tech support?
What bios version are you running?Quote:
Originally Posted by chiman2
A call to Asus would not hurt but I find it strange that it wont boot that disk but it will boot 32bit disk.
I'm still leaning towards the media being corrupt, but without another pc to check it:shrug:
USA ASUS phone number is 510.739.3777 option 2
Good luck!
im on 802 bios. they dont have a toll free number? is there any chance where something was wrong to the point i would have to rma it or is that not applicable here? i would rather not rma it