1) Seriously? Mine beats the other three cores by miles ... :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by KTE
2) Are there official documents regarding the Green/Yellow/Red button?
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1) Seriously? Mine beats the other three cores by miles ... :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by KTE
2) Are there official documents regarding the Green/Yellow/Red button?
overdrive user guideQuote:
Originally Posted by massman
@ tony or anybody else with the gigabyte board
does gigabyte board still use the CTRL+F1 in Bios to enable all the extra hidden tweaks?
Thx!
sure does ;)
+1 :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
anyone else got memory bios *bugs* with their 790FX http://www.thegeminiweb.com/babyboom...7/12/chips.gif?
:rotf:
Not that I know of. Sami explaining them on here back in November/December is what we went off, after then testing them ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by wiakoverdrive user guideQuote:
Originally Posted by massman
Reviews made mention of it late, as with many Phenom related features, users were late to figure them out.
No one else has gotten 3.4GHz, darn.
Highest clocks i've tried so far are 12x270 at 1.32v, stable for Spi 1m n wprime 32m.
Anyone on the gigabyte boards getting high CPU temp readings in BIOS? I've noticed my cpu temp reading (not the core temps) sitting in the 50-60 C idle-load. Temp seems to be the same as what AOD lists as TEMPIN2. Wats TEMPIN2 anyhow?
As for core temps situation I generally have these temps for most settings.
Idle: ~40
Load: ~50
Ambients: ~25
Cooling is a TT Big Typhoon
Whats the default NB VID people are getting on Gigabyte boards? Mines 1.138V :(
I must confess Phenom is really nice and rounds of this board quite nicely :toast: Not as clock able as Intel but even at stock there really is a noticeable feel in how fluent games run on Phenom and being able to clock everything independently is quite nice:) \
Much to learn and catch up on with you fellas but theres allot of concise info on the forum here so no worries on that:D BTW.. really nice Guide you did Tony and looking forward to seeing more info on Phenom with Part 2:)
Campbell;)
P.S....You are right Tony put the Ram @ 195ns and things smooth out very nicely tried 75ns:slapass: ...lol...but that didn't work:D
3240mhz 1.32v on air thats sound good..try some more vcore plz :) see if you can go 3300mhz wprime on airQuote:
Originally Posted by Schneider
Schneider: Very nice OC, sounds like you have a sweet 9850 there! ;) But your giving the DS5 somewhat of a bad name on the IMC volts..
As I tried to tell you in the DQ6 thread AUTO setting will equal 1.138v's. Once you go to the negative volts it subtracts it from whatever the base NB setting is, IE: 1.25v for 9600BE or 1.30v for 9850BE.Quote:
Originally Posted by Schneider
Here is a SS of my 9850 on the DS5 with "Memory Controller Volt" set at -0.0500, the resulting IMC voltage is 1.25 (1.3std, -.0500):
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3..._12_F5Bios.jpg
If your machine won't boot at -0.0125, try -0.1000, which would put you at 1.20v/NB on a 9850, but please quit saying that the DS5 is limited to 1.138 NB, because it certainly isn't.
lol sry, I haven't had the time to really sit down and tweak amongst uni+work hence why I just tried 0.0125. I never said it couldn't, I said I couldn't :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Daveburt714
-0.05 booted, testing NB speeds 2.5+ now.
Thx for your help
Mine goes to 2.9ghz at less then stock volts :) But even still at the same voltage and higher clocks then the 9600 BE damn these things crank some heat:yepp:
Schneider: Glad you finally figured it out! :D
I know I'm fairly new here, but I won't insist on stuff unless I know I'm right!
I'll be waiting to see what ya get when armed with the new IMC info...
My 9850 won't even run at bios defaults.... I'm gonna RMA it.. :yepp:
That really sucks Dave! Is that the same one? Losing track of time ya know:D
Yeah, it's the same one BroE. Thought I'd give it a few days to see if I could get it to run right. I even went and picked up some OCZ Reaper 1066 thinking maybe my ram had gone bad... Still No Go, I put the 96BE back in today.
Anyone know how the K9A2 or DS5 stacks up against the M2R or DQ6?
hopefully I should get a Phenom 9850 BE soon. I already have a K9A2 Platinum, and a good watercooling system.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loser777
I'll probably post my results here
some one want to trade me my funky 9600BE for a 9850 BE ? :p:
Yeah, seeing how no one has a K9A2 suggests that that's an iffy board.
well after a lot of work and frustration... i have concluded that my 9850 HATES 1066mhz ram =(. so ive been running at 800mhz mode... anyone else having the same problem with 1066 mode? i also have noticed that my computer is more stable at odd multipliers (11.5,12.5,13.5) than normal even multipliers... why? >.<
The cache on these have really low latency compared to intel cache.
Im not sure i understand your answer :shrug: . if they have a lower latency, that means that have a faster cache right, "really low latency" means very small delay time, which = faster response? how does that make the 1066mhz mode unstable... shouldnt that make it more stable and "responive"? or were you not answering my question? sry if this sounds dumb/ignorant but thats how i always feel, lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by WeStSiDePLaYa
I think he means that with the integrated imc and lower latency the memory is under more stress at the same mhz compared to intel, so it's more prone to being unstable at otherwise comparable settings.
If you are using 1066 mode you have to do the following.Quote:
Originally Posted by GunterFalstaff
from a cmos clear or setup defaults.
Set 1066 mode...set voltage to say 2.0V and reboot
Enter bios and see if the minimum TRCD value is 5..if it is you are in 1066 mode.
If you have dimms programmed with 1066 into the jedec tables do the following on the dfi
boot...it will be at 1066 but the bios is confused ;)
set manual for the ram speed and set 1066 mode
reboot
Now go back to bios , you should be in true 1066 mode.
on the DFI you may have more luck with 5-6-6-24-30-195ns(for 2GB dimms)
Quote:
Originally Posted by GunterFalstaff
No you have it wrong you're 9850 hate 2x2gb Corsair Ram @ 1066:yepp:
My 9850 Likes my 2x2gb OCZ Reaper HPC @1066 just Peachy!:clap:
I would send them sticks that you got Back to Eggy while you still have the chance and get the 2X2GB OCZ Reaper HPC from Zip Zoom Fly like I did and get the $25.00 mail in Rebate that comes with them cuz $100.00 for these sticks is like being able to rob someone without a gun legally.
Here Lies Intel Enthusiast Hegemony.
Born: July 2006 (Conroe Launch)
Died: April 2008 (Tony's Thread)
You've got me visiting XS after a LONG time Tony, just awesome :)
ok, sorry if this sounds like a newb question. also correct me if i'm wrong here. as far as i know, amd cpus love low latency as opposed to higher bus. with that said, will it be better to run at speed below 1066 or 1000 and with lower latency. since the 9850 has unlocked multi, you can oc with multi easier than bus. true? i'm debating whether to get good low latency pc6400 or higher speed pc8500. i'm running a 5000+ BE at home and i can oc my ballistix to 944Mhz with low latencies of 4-4-4-12. i love the bandwidths and latency i'm seeing. which way to go pretty sums up my questions and my questions are;
high speed or low latency?
oc with multi or bus?
get pc6400 or pc8500?
thanks for all inputs.
Perkam!! Welcome back :DQuote:
Originally Posted by perkam
So has anyone other than me tried to do any real testing with better cooling than water? My 9850 only goes to 2.75 so I can't do much testing at all, all I know is that max htt gets reduced like normal and the nb gets some extra frequency. Maybe it just wants to be air cooled, but who knows. It almost seems like the cooler that keeps it closest to room temp without going below it would be the best config.
Have you tried it on a different board, like the DFI or gigabyte? Some have said some boards are better than others :shrug:
I have the DFI DK 790FX-M2RS and would love to put one of these B3s in it (especially since my 9600BE is so buggy I can't run stable @ stock at idle, gotta load it down all the time, most bizarre thing I've ever seen). Unfortunately I can't because I need a motor in my car so now I'm selling the board to help fund that, and gotta find out what to do with the chip, probably RMA it then sell the replacement I suppose. Stupid cars...
You will just sell it. :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by SparkyJJO
It should buy a nice engine though :ROTF:
Case closed, these chips hate the cold. The colder they get, the more vcore they need to be stable. Just changing the heater setting for the vapo from 100% to 0% required an extra 2 voltage notches, so instead of 1.1825v it wanted 1.2125v to run at 2.7ghz because it got like 5C colder. I might have to build an intel system to justify not selling my vapo now...
got today my new hardware (Phenom 9850 BE & Asus M3N-HT Deluxe), its my first time with AMD & oc :)
HW Pics...
http://www.abload.de/img/dscf7135hfn.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/dscf7138qm8.jpg
short test with stock cooler
http://www.abload.de/img/cpu-3250pfv.png
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=345569
dude you've got me worried! Where have you been!?Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
BTW
all hats down to Tony! I hate not having a time to run my 9850 samples :(
oh well I guess that after this thread only meaningful new thread would be with Phenoms 8x50 ;)
Update
Parts finally arrived, change in mobo.
Chri$ch,great results!!!New Nv based boards seem to clock Phenom 9850 quite fine :).
Keep us informed of your progress wrt OCing.
Fugger,nice pics,awaiting your results :).
Chrisch how did you get your hands on a ASUS 780a mobo. I'm trying to pickup a Crosshair 2 so i can go buy another 8800GT
single channel 1 512 sticK?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chri$ch
can you try DC and post back your results...
yes, first time was singlechannel because the asus wont boot with my pc2-8500 sticks
and i tried it with one pc2-6400 stick.
at this time prime run with 2 x 512MB PC2-6400 sticks in dualchannel mode @ 250 x 10.
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=345600
regards
chris
Behavior that you've experienced with memory isn't isolate case :( friend of mine, bencher it self, also had unbelievable headache with memory… mobo just refused to work in DC mode, or with high speed sticks (HyperX 1200 if I remember correctly)Quote:
Originally Posted by Chri$ch
Well im glad you liked the thread, its been hard keeping it pure AMD though but we managed it ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
Grab a new cpu man and join in :)
this is my first reply but I've been following the thread since it was on page 6.
I'm very pleased to see the new phenoms hitting 3GHz easily on air. I've bough a 5000+be as a temporary CPU waiting for the B3s to come out and looks like I made the right choice by not getting directly into phenom.
1. Tony, as you work for OCZ do you think my ocz ddr2 titanium pc6400 OCZ2T800C44GK will do 1066 with relaxed timers? (from 4-4-4-15 to 5-5-5-15)?
2. Chri$ch - how good is the nforce 780a chipset? Does it look as it performs faster than 790fx? I want to get rid of mine m3a-mvp deluxe. hated the damn board from the beginning (too many years using dfi's mobos)
--edit--
what? first post? and I registered almost a year ago. looks like I'm a newb in this forum :shocked:
Hey man! My 9850 BE has the same batch as yours. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Chri$ch
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/7296/cpukicsibk1.jpg
Not sure I want to mention this but... AMD chips were actually designed and optimized for lower voltages at the mainstream frequencies [for such uarch/fabrication] right since the early beginning. Hence it won't be odd to find they love voltage only in a low range and do not scale past it unless process tweaked. As Execs at AMD have explained, critical path delays were increased for this but need decreasing for higher clocks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldguy932
Also, AMD now has the 2.5GHz Barcelona 2360 SE retailing at 105W TDP: http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/V...l?redir=CPPR01
So they now [finally] have 1.7G, 1.8G, 1.9G, 2.0G, 2.1G, 2.2G, 2.3G, 2.4G and 2.5G retailing in that segment - all of which were set to release by December '07 had there not been this TLB bug and a reason why they lost much profit over increased costs.
Any details on nV 780a?
I get 2800mhz @1.23vcore stably:) So I am happier then a Pig in :banana::banana::banana::banana: :cool:
Brother Esau I think your doing boinc (right?) but I would love to the performance factor for the fah 504 console client and maybe a wu from the smp client. :)
I think is getting more and more obvious that B3 is really big progress compared to B2... just remember how painful was to bring up 9600BE past 2.5 with 1.4+V and look now... 2.8 is doable on default voltage!Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother Esau
Keeping this progress with CTI,AMD can and probably will bring us to B3 chip@2.8Ghz by Q3(before Shanghai).
It will come before Q3 and it will be 140w TDP. The Phenom 9950! I hope you own a high end motherboard with multiple power phases for that baby. DFI FTW!Quote:
Originally Posted by informal
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mechromancer
If I remember correctly DFI has a 6-phase + 1 MC+HT
and the M3A32-MVP is 8-phase + 2 MC+HT
140W. Ouch.
Where's those 45nm already?
We'll get 9950 at 2.6GHZ and 140W TDP. But a 2.8GHz chip? Im skeptic here because that would be a cpu running 2.8GHZ-3.0GHz at 1.3-1.35V (unsure about the stock voltage here).Quote:
Originally Posted by informal
Manufracturs must take long term degradation into account if this anandtech article is correct.
790FX is supposed to be the weapon of choice if you go by spec's...if I get any sample NV boards I will ofcourse be posting :)
I swore not to buy another ASUS board after my M2NPV-VM, but as its the only Nvidia option right now...
Stupid board cant survive 1MHz above stock.
LOL.....:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Loser777
hey has anyone tried the 9850s with a 590 sli board? I'm currently using the crosshair I bought a couple of years ago, and while its a very nice board, I'm kinda concerned that it would allow for as high of an oc as these newer boards. On the bright side it has an 8 phase power design so I should be able to feed any k10/k10.5 quad with plenty of power
nice thread. im ready to join the party! havent posted on here in a long time. will post my results once the system is totally assembled.
keep on clockin! :)
Seriously, 2400MHZ up from 2200MHZ stock is a suicide run when you use this board.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother Esau
I got prime stable for like an hour, and a screenshot at 2400, but it never worked again at that speed no matter what I tried.
Picture is from 12/12/06
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/8...erclockmn6.jpg
I think my 4200+ can do 2.91 with a better mobo.
Even with Polygon's insane modding skills that managed to lower my HTT multi, I still couldn't get a better clock.
At first, with the 0405 BIOS that came with this board, 213x11 was the highest stable it could do, now it can't even do 206x11 after a couple updates, and I bet 203-205 aren't stable either.
ASUS does not have a good rep with me.
I've been trying to get my Gigabyte DS5 to run 1066 Ram. I have a set of 2x2Gb G.Skill PC2-8000, and couldn't get it to work, so I bought a set of 2x1Gb OCZ Reapers (OCZ2RPR 10662GK). Still a NoGo...
There are a few bios settings I don't understand, and I'm thinking they may be the key to getting it running but the Trial and Error thing is getting kinda old!
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3..._F5MemBios.jpg
Sorry the pic is a little shakey, but it's still readable. ;)
Tony: I know your an OCZ Rep, and you've been testing this stuff. Am I missing something? As you can see I really loosened the snot out of the timings, it will boot and run somewhat OK, but it won't pass 4core Prime for more than a few minutes.
I'm thinking the stuff I circled in the pic may be the key to my problems, but the Docs are thin, and I can't seem to Google any useful info.
Any help would be appreciated!...... Thanks. Dave
things looking good for 9850BE
FUGGER we're becoming inpatient :D
;)
my thoughts exactly :D :rofl: :yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nedjo
what cpu do you have?Quote:
Originally Posted by Daveburt714
he has a 9850 and 9600be dunno if he sent the 9850 back yet
Try Wikipedia, last i checked it has some info on it. Both DQS and Bank Swizzle are performance options so to speak.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daveburt714
DQS as Micron Describes itQuote:
DDR2 SDRAM introduces the DQS# enable function to reduce crosstalk and simultaneous
switching output (SSO) impact on the strobe output drivers
Middle 3 are as they state power down options, its like a cool n quiet for RAM, keep them disabled.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bank Swizzle
Theres quite a few technical docs on them
EDIT: Just a small note, I can rarely boot with the 1066 Divider yet i can reach 1100+ (with ~tight timings) with the 800 divider, but my SPD is PC5300 so its not too surprising.
To go to 1066 mode you have to set it and reboot, or the bios files get confused.
Daveburt714
Set 800 mode, set vcore to 1.35N
Push up NB ratio till you find its max stable setting and report back
now on water, max bus speed :)
http://valid.x86-secret.com/ccpuz.ph...5880&nocache=1
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=345880
whats the volts for the max bus speed
CPU @ 1.28v
NB @ 1.20v
Mem @ 2.00v
HT @ 1.20v
cool,I hope all 9850s can do this,btw I heard someone mention that raising the bus speed above 200 does not have any performance increase right?
Chri$ch,awesome results,both for max. HTT and chip speed.
Do you find the chip stable @3.1Ghz while idling in Windows?Did you test it for some time under load?
yes, i test it but sys freezed after ~4min prime...Quote:
Originally Posted by informal
i think cpu need more vcore and other voltage tweaks, but it is my first amd system
and it is a little bit complicated :D
but 3Ghz (250x12) run stable @ 1.28v VCore
Phenom 9950 comes Q3 @ 140W TDP and unless something changes, that is the last of Agena 65nm.Quote:
Originally Posted by informal
Anandtech in their B3 review said AMD was prioritizing 45nm over continuing 65nm development, and I'm sure that is what they will do. Some B3's could probably be sold @ 2.8GHz but not many, remember that stability for an oc'd system vs. stability for a CPU sold by AMD is a different story. Just because a 9850 can do 2.8GHz @ stock volts doesn't mean that AMD can take that CPU and certify it to work under load 24/7 without error.
But B3 is looking pretty good, if 45nm is an improvement in frequency and not just power/thermals then we will see some good results come Q4.
if you take look at Crti$ch and Oliveirda's Phenoms you'll notice that they are build in the last week of February...
http://www.abload.de/img/dscf7138qm8.jpg
obviously sample rate of XS owners compared to the full production of these CPU's is to low to make concrete arguing, but I feel it's safe to bet that with B3 AMD has room to go beyond 2.6 GHz planned for 9950 at default voltage, and bring out another speed bin prior to Daneb.
Like Informal wrote, with CTI in full swing, AMD has a chance to brush B3 revision trough out Q2 (90-100 days is a lots of time) and launch 2.8 GHz model in acceptable TDP (140W for 1.3V fed models)
Because of the naming scheme I doubt AMD will realease anything beyond a Phenom X4 9950 2.6Ghz on 65nm.
IMHO 2.7 and 2.8 Ghz parts will be on 45nm with a different name... IDK, something like Phenom X4 X550 @ 2.8Ghz :P
well between 9950 and 10000 you have lots of space... you have 60, 70, 80, 90 ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Andi64
AMD Phenom X4 9999 3.21099Ghz 2.21M L3? :D
Quote:
Originally Posted by Extelleron
AMD will provide current B3 to earn the approval of the Public and take them out of the Hot seat that they are in with B2 Rev but I should not think they will put anymore effort into B3 65nm just would not make any sense not to focus on the 45nm die shrink and focus exclusively on that.
lolz i have that same mobo for my second rig and it does 240mhz on ht bus easily. With 5x HT multiplier that is, because there is no setting for that in bios :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Loser777
Well the fact is that you can't simply overnight swap complete production from 65 to 45nm, and as we all come to learn, CPU's with previous node generation will be available in parallel with the new ones…Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother Esau
Due to fact that AMD is quite agile when it comes to perfecting current technology thanks to CTI, I wouldn't dismiss possibility of further perfection of B3's… they don't need to call them B4 all they need to do is to provide enough high yield on frequencies beyond 2.6 GHz for more 65nm Phenoms.
As an illustration to how effective CTI is I would remind you that B1 or BA, how they were called for commercial K10's, was out in Q3 2007, and B2 followed in Q4 2007 and B3 was in production in Q1 2008! And if you look back and add in account all necessary debugging, AMD has made tremendous advancement from B1 to B3, basically having new core in three quarters consequently!
correct me if im wrong, but once they go past 3.0ghz wernt they gonna call it like C1, C2, C3 ect instead of B4 or whatever they are up to
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nedjo
I understand and acknowledge all that you just said Nedjo but the facts are that they have serious cash Flow issues ATM and I know thats what I would be doing if it were my business and I had those problems.
Just my opinion but it makes logical sense regardless:)
Bx or Cx refers to the revision of the chip and really doesn't have anything to do with frequency; a core will typically undergo a number of revisions improving slightly upon the previous one. An example is Intel's Q6600 - it launched w/ B3 stepping and now has moved to G0 stepping, which consumes less power and overclocks more. With Phenom, the move from B2->B3 was primarily to fix the TLB erratum, but it seems to have improved the overclocking ability as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manicdan
AMD's 45nm chips will be revision Cx, ex. C0, C1, etc, while AMD's 65nm Phenoms are Bx; B0, B1, etc. Since AMD's 45nm Phenoms will be the first to go beyond 3GHz (hopefully), yes they will probably be something like C1 or C2 stepping.
Ugh, I must be a n00b or so.
What's the AMD CPU setting with options p0 and p1 for?
TDP will restrict any higher releases regardless of the process ability and they are not interested in more volume production quads at 65nm now but 45nm ;)
The FX series was always planned and they have the models for a while now. I do not know what is holding them back apart from competition and the lack of market for it. However, I am not AMD, heck even AMD do not know what will happen as Q3 and Q4 approaches, so you could see higher releases which are not currently known officially. FX82 is already tested since February though, and a Feb 9th update report much after the TLB bug being known mentions more releases: http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/inde...sID=12061&pn=5
Although all those notes are what we knew from Jan, K10 will obviously continue in volume production even while AMD 45nm releases, so you will most likely have higher grades in K10 as you have with K8 65nm G2 now. The report mentions upto 3.4GHz K10 by years end from AMD.
The profit volumes are in the low end/mainstream and the server end, wanting energy efficiency, and that demands an increase in performance efficiency per clock rather than high clocks and high TDPs. If AMD will ever directly compete at 45nm, it will have to be with performance per clock as the main weapon and looking at the cards, that will be an very steep uphill battle.
/looks at B3 overclocks
/looks at broken B2 that isn't even stable at stock
me wants a B3... *cries* :(
Gonna call AMD soon to get this chip RMAed, who knows, if they have cut off production of the B2s now (I sure hope they have, why make more bugged chips?) I might get a B3 in return, that would be sweet.
I went to Sapphires site and read their BIOS settings guide. Apparently the AMD CPU stepping handles performance states. However, are those P-states pre-configured? Cause I tried 1.3V with 14x multi and 200 HTT and it froze in loading Windows. Even at 10x250 it didnt even post while everything was after all stock speeds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rammsteiner
Those were some rough settings though but just trying out heh. Of course I set NB and HT multi lower, as well RAM.
Then I set P1 state and just decided to try out slowly. Now running small FFT's at 12.5x210, if it's stable for about and hour and a half Ill move HTT a little bit up etc.
But if anyone could comment whether to use P-0 or P-1 for OCíng, that would be awesome:yepp:
I don't understand what you're saying properly.. are you saying P-State options are available to you in BIOS? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rammsteiner
P-State 0 is maximum performance state, i.e. your stock boot clock without CnQ
P-State 1 is your CnQ clocks/voltages
Hmmm, thx KTE.
Strange thing though, with CMOS default my PC starts up at 1.05V and about lowest multi lol (with P-0).
But yes, P-states are available in BIOS although Ive CnQ disabled. Also I think there might be a new BIOS for DFI since Sapphire uploaded a new BIOS with some new Phenom codes, however the DFI sites has problems (at least on this PC).
Im running P-1 now with OC'd settings and CnQ disabled so I dont know whether the settings of the P-states are having an effect on anything now anyway.
Run P-State 0, that's default boot. Then oc, it should change along with it.
Check MSR C001_0064, MSR C001_0065 and MSR C001_0070, what all 3 read. [65] should be different to [64] in VID/FID/DID values.
Mine seems to be the only one that don't want to keep the 3ghz. Max freq @ vcore default is 2600mhz. Max OC is 2800mhz, and with this freq i can load windows only with heavy overvolt of 1.54V. And also in this way, it's not RS.
Now i'm selling it, and in 1-2 week i think to by another one, hoping to be much luky.
Processor/BIOS please?Quote:
Originally Posted by triple_A
I've heard of it doing 240 on single core 3000+, but not anything else.
They'll probably go to X950 or HD950. :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nedjo
That p-state setting is abit odd. I tried P-1 and checked the msr's. Seemed i was still in p-0 stage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rammsteiner
The field itself is labeld "AMD CPU Stepping" but steppinng and p-states are different things. :shrug:
this looks really good for AMD
Just wanted to get in on this form about a week ago but they just approved me tonight, so here this goes. I just built a custom build about three months ago going with this set up.
Tony Just want to say thanks for what your are doing, It really helps others make informed choice's. And I love my OCZ Ram BTW!
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2@ OCZ Gold 2GB STicks 240 pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800(PC2 6400) can go up to 8GB with Mboard. 4GB on the board
1@ Seagate Sata/300 Barracuda 3.5" 500GB 16Mb Cache 3Gbs 7200Rpm
2@ Samsung SH-S203 DVD+R/-R 20x Sata retail ver. with lightsribe
1@ BFG 8800GTS Grafix card 512MB on board DDR3 Ram This is the one that beats the GTX/GT in almost every bench mark! Decided the 8600gt wasn't good enough.
1@ MI keyboard USB 2.0 plug and play, with 15 hot keys 1@ Reaper gaming mouse, with 5 hot buttons and 1600 DIP,USB.
3@ 120mm case fans with blue lcd lights
2@ 80mm fans in the RX-750watt power source with blue lcd lights
1@SYTRIN 5.25 drive bay cooler with 2x40mm fans.
1 OCZ ram cooler with 2x60m fans.
Bios version 1802/date 1/18/08
O.S. Windows Vista 64bit version
I figured I could update this custom build with putting in this new Phenom 9850. It didn't work out for me on my ASUS M2N32-sli deluxe. Temps were very high on this processor from the get go. It all looked good when I first dropped it in after updating from 1402 up to 1802 the 9600Be b2 stepping flash. I got it to overclock to 2.9 stable with a very small volt increase. upto 1.38 I think. I didn't clear my cmos when I first updated the bios and it proved to affect the performance, even though at that time it had not acted unstable. In benchmark06 it got a 7300 stock score no overclock on the CPU or the 8800GTS. When I started overclocking both up to max 2.9 on the Phenom and maxed the 8800GTS I got like 7985. Not that it really matters but I got a 5.3 in vista when I first put it in. My 6400+BE got a 5.6 on vista stock. It wouldn't let me touch the multi at all but would let me adjust the cpu mhz. I got on toms and posted what was going on under a thread there called "got the phenom 9850 today!!" Someone recomended that I reset the cmos and I did and sure enough it worked. I put everything back to stock settings before I cleared it and started running benchmarks at stock speeds. Sure enough it worked and got a 11,865 on stock scores with the new Phenom 9850. My 6400+ got 11,356 so all looked good with it showing that gain at 2.5Ghz. I was able to adjust the multi after I reset the cmos but did not apply any changes to it. I did the same as I did before I reset the cmos and tried to adjust the CPU mhz and that was the end of the Phenom. If you want you can go to toms under CPU and look up my thread and check out what i did, it ran some what stable when I bumped the multi down to 12, and increased the NB voltage to 1.25 but I could not overclock at all, and it started blue screening and saying that a clock was not recieved to the 2nd processor in time and shut down with a system dump. I have RMa it back to the egg. And not sure if I will have them send me a new one and upgrade my board to the Asus am2+ for 219 on the egg or just wait for the 45's to come out. This chip looked like it had promise, but not sure what I'm gonna do. I just spent about $1500 on my system I just built and was hoping that I could run this new Phenom on my setup, but I had no luck. Anyone with this board have luck??? If so let me know your system specs. I have tore down my whole rig last weekend and Painted the inside metalic blue and rewired all of the wires to get better air flow, I did a pretty good job when I first built it but this time I did it right and there are no wires that are not clipped tucked and out of the way! I will post some pics of the results in a couple days, it looks really nice! I had to clean install vista 64 after all this happened, at first I could drop my 6400+ back in with no problems but it started freezing up so I got rid of everything and Installin everything clean again. I had N tune on my computer because when I first built this Rivatune would not work with my 8800GTS. During the process of puttin this Phenom in and out I got rid of N tune and upgraded to the new Nvidia program tools but later found out it is not supported on my board. It let me use it but wouldn't show all the options. After the clean install I have not installed anything from Nvidia except my drivers and I got Rivatuner to work now so going thru the process of install all my Warhammer games and other programs.
Sorry for the long post guys,
Keep up the good work cuz I might just build a new rig in a couple of weeks with the new board and the 9850BE This is getting to be a very expensive hobby!:yepp:
^ thread hijack imo. please start a new thread...or something.