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Originally Posted by Crazy Inside
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Originally Posted by Crazy Inside
i cant even OC 1mhz with my DS4 ...im thinking its an incompatibility issue with my videocard or ram. and i dont have any other video or ram to test it with, the F4a bios doesnt fix it :(
Got to ask cause i have never seen it mentioned before (although i cant be bothered to go back over this thread). Has any one noticed the extra IRQ options when pressing Ctrl F1?
yesQuote:
Originally Posted by cliffy
Here's a funny bug in BIOS F4a for ya. For the last two weeks or so I've had a "cold boot" bug where my system would not cold boot when overclocked. Every time I tried, the boot would stop and I would see "BOOT DISK FAILURE blah blah blah" and then I'd hit reset and everything would be fine. Well, I experimented a bit and here's what I found out. I have a 150GB Raptor and a 250GB WD 2500KS drive. When both are plugged into yellow SATA slots, the motherboard ALWAYS thinks my 2500KS drive is the boot drive on a cold boot. Changing the boot order does nothing. The 2500KS drive is always in position one after a cold boot. So I plugged the 2500KS into a purple slot and kept the Raptor in yellow slot 1 and now everything is fine.
Here's the real kicker. In any BIOS past F4a, the BIOS though the boot failure was caused by the overclocking and would reset my BIOS instead of stopping with the BOOT DISK ERROR message. So now that I have my drives on separate controllers, I'm going to try the official F4 and see if I'm OK now.
Has anybody else encountered this? It's almost like the motherboard is automatically making the largest HDD the boot drive.
EDIT: I'm fine with BIOS F4 now. I'm going to keep my HDDs on separate controllers from now on.
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Originally Posted by cliffy
yes but dont mess with them
its only for pci slots anyways.
it would come in handy if you had a sharing issue, say a sound card and the video card or something else.
you could move it to a different irq.
aldamoin -
thats a wierd issue. but have you checked the jumpers on your hard drives they BOTH MUST be masters...
as long as your raptor is in the first sata slot (the one closest to the video card. it will always boot as master unless the bios see's it as something other than master.
dont use cable select either. make both master.
After failing to boot from OC settings, isn't it resetting to your backup BIOS which may not specify the correct boot order?Quote:
Originally Posted by aldamon
If so, try setting modified default settings with no overclock and save it to your backup bios. Reboot and then overclock away. When it fails it should revert to the backup bios you saved.
@#!@$#%$^%&^^&^%&^%& ?? :slap:Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazy Inside
I don't think so. If I go into the BIOS setup after a cold boot, the rest of my settings are not reset. Only the boot order is messed up. The rest of my settings are fine. You see, with F4a, the backup BIOS is never accessed. The boot sequence just stops and it displays BOOT DISK ERROR.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAM
On the other hand, if I use F4e, something different happens. The F4e BIOS interprets the boot disk error as a failed overclock and resets my BIOS to the backup BIOS automatically. It does this without displaying BOOT DISK ERROR, which gave me a chance to reset and preserve my overclocked settings. That's why I was sticking with F4a. I could work around the problem with it.
This whole situation shows why I hate this automated BIOS reset. IMO, F4a handles my error correctly. It shows BOOT DISK FAILURE, which gives me a chance to diagnose the problem. It shouldn't just reset everything on its own. That doesn't help me figure out what's wrong!
Now, I'm on the official F4 BIOS and everything works fine if I use one purple jack and one yellow jack instead of two yellow jacks. I don't know if there's a noticeable performance difference between the jacks/controllers, but I seriously doubt it. The 2500KS is my storage HDD anyway.
hi , i received m Ds3 from RMA today , and with this new DS3 (F4 bios) and new 2x 1Gb Teamgroup PC 5300 CL3-4-4-8 i cant boot more than 340FSB :( .
anyone with this config can give me the best settings???
regards
mascarilha-
you need to list your system specs and what settings you are using in the bios.
i think the problem its the teamgroup , with CL5 i can boot 350 FSB and with CL3 or CL4 i cant boot
this teamgroup 2x 1GB PC5300 should be CL3-4-4-8 but CPU-Z and everest read :
333mhz CL5-5-5-15 :
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/365/memoriasyj0.jpg
its the board that reads wrong????
regards
manually set the timings in the bios to 4-4-4-12 and start overclocking set the ram voltage to +4 that equals 2.2v and will allow the ram to go 900+mhz @ 4-4-4-12.
as long as the northbridge is strong enough to allow it.
but the ram are rated CL3-4-4-8 why CPU-z and everest reads 333mhz CL5-5-5-15???Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
i already tried 350x8 CL4-4-4-12@2.2v and dont boot only boot if i set 350x8 CL5-5-5-
regards
edit : flash back with F3 bios and clear cmos and boot with 390x8 CL4-4-4-12@2.0v and run SPI 1M :D
E6400@3120mhz@Vcore Default||2x1GB Teamgroup PC 5300 @390Mhz CL4-4-4-12@2.0v
http://img311.imageshack.us/img311/1235/3120mhzqi8.jpg
regards
I have two Raptors in Raid0 on my DS3 on the Gigabyte controller.
If I try to boot over 460 Mhz Fsb My raid array fails.
If I increase PCIE Voltage .1V The problem goes away, Might be worth a try for you also.
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Originally Posted by aldamon
E6400@3200mhz@1.36v||2x1GB Teamgroup PC 5300 @400Mhz CL4-4-4-12@2.0v
http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/9979/3200rw6.jpg
UPDATE:
E6400@3300mhz@1.42v||2x1GB Teamgroup PC 5300 @413Mhz CL4-4-4-12@2.0v
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/5171/3295oe1.jpg
:D :D
regards
Yeah, I've tried that. Nothing works but using one yellow jack and one purple jack. I'm just happy I can cold boot now :) I'm not one of those people who harps on a bug indefinitely. My solution works for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by PFOUR
Very interesting mascarilha. I get in the high 17s range @ 3150 and our memory timings are identical. Perhaps having such a low multiplier on the E6300 isn't so bad?Quote:
Originally Posted by mascarilha
http://www.damontech.net/aldamon3150.jpg
your RAM are the PC 5300 CL3-4-4-8 or CL3-3-3-8 (D9)????
what voltage you got to run 450mhz cl4-4-4-12???
my settings are:
vMCH - AUTO
Vcore - 3100Mhz@NORMAL // 3200Mhz@ 1.37v
Vdim - 2.0v(+0.2)
PCI - 100
regards
My sticks have D9GMH chips inside. Just like every other stick with D9, their speed rating is irrelevant. My CPU craps out long before my RAM.Quote:
Originally Posted by mascarilha
i know speed rating is irrelevant if the RAM have same chips but teamgroup PC 5300 CL3-3-3-8 have D9 chips and Teamgroup PC5300 CL3-4-4-4-8 have Elpidia chips.Quote:
Originally Posted by aldamon
regards
Teamgroup 3-4-4-x is D9GMH, not elpidaQuote:
Originally Posted by mascarilha
where i bought my 2x 1GB Teamgroup they say that PC 5300 CL3-4-4-8 (217$) have Elpidia chips and the CL3-3-3-8 (270$) have Micron D9Quote:
Originally Posted by mach82
regards
For any users with a DS4.
I have just tried the F4a BIOS and cannot get as high a stable OC as with the F3 so I wouldnt bother trying it.
My team DDRII
http://img304.imageshack.us/img304/1...21925px.th.jpg
http://img304.imageshack.us/img304/8...21880mr.th.jpg
Results on DS3
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/2...d32mpo7.th.png
These booted no problem for me at 1.8v
They're wrong. All of the Team Group is D9. My PC2-5300 3-4-4-8 set came with no heatspreaders and it's D9.Quote:
Originally Posted by mascarilha
Everytime I run dual prime my CPU temperature sure above 61 degree....If I contunue to run it for few hours, will my CPU get burnt????
http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/3073/111ur0.gif
FROM : http://users.erols.com/chare/elec.htm
No not all Team is D9 ..I have thisQuote:
Originally Posted by aldamon
http://www.nintek.com.au/x/scripts/p...idproduct=6432
and they have Elpidia chips ..had them to 440mhz 5-5-5-15 not to bad for the price
Quote:
Originally Posted by PÿRÓ
OK then, all Team RAM at Tank Guys is D9 :)
i thought stock vcore was 1.325V :>Quote:
Originally Posted by siewsphone
Quote:
Originally Posted by CrazyJohn
with gigabyte Ds3/Ds4 the default vcore is 1.325v .
1.20v its when CPU is Idle when EIST and C1 enable ;)
regards
news with my new DS3 ( from RMA ) F4 Final bios and teamgroup pc 5300 cl3-4-4-8 :
E6400@3450mhz @ 1.47v // Gigabyte DS3 (F4 bios ) @ 431 FSB //Teamgroup 2x1Gb Pc 5300 @ 431Mhz CL4-4-4-12 @ 2.2v
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/8136/34502ab2.jpg
:p: :p:
No New Beta BIOS Updates?
nope doesnt look like it
i have made an official request to get gigabyte to do whatever they have to do to remove the 400 FSB limit especially on 9x or high multi cpu's.
also the whole rebooting issue when overclocked too far, amde ANOTHER request for them to fix the no boot issues instead of having the bios reset like it used to.
hhmm whatelse...
but nothing new yet, im sure they are working on it though.
Anyone finding F4 final better than F4e for DS3 ?
works fine for me,, i wouldnt say anything is better about it.
probably the same atleast for me
yeah what he said :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
wish i could get to 400mhz on the fsb tho, i hit a wall at about 375
Default vcore is 1.300v on mine :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by mascarilha
Hey guys. I've been reading this forum for close to a month and have learned a lot. I did my first build with a ds3. Got one of the first ones that EGG sold. Put a 820d in it and clocked it to 3.7 prime stable and it worked great. I just got a 6400 and have it clocked at 3.2 dual prime stable for 1 hour. idles about 42c and dual primes at 55c with a arctic cooler. My pi is below. I can run at 425 but not dual prime. Can't boot to windows at 450. I have corsair 5400 c4 2gig. 400 is with vcore 1.3625. .2 on bfsb and 2 on vdim. Well thought I knew how to paste my screen. I got to look at that some more. anyway i run 18.86 at 3.2 8 x 400 with 1:1 400 5-5-5-10
try this:Quote:
Originally Posted by RIPIT
update to f4 final
leave all normal and mem timings auto,only change below settings
PCIe->102
vdimm->+0.4
vcore->1.5
My DS3 wont hit 400MHz FSB :(
I have tried all versions of BIOS, even placed a fan next to NB heatsink. I have tried to put the voltages up as well, but still it will just reset fsb speed back to 266 (actually it disables the fsb controll) at anything higher than 395..
Anyone else having similar problems?
hey guys
is F4 retail bios making mem go at 2.1V @ 400Mhz ? I've set to normal and both Speedfan and GigaTune says it's 2.1V. I've set in bios Vddr to +0.1V and programs says it's 1.9V
:banana::banana::banana::banana:ty GB team :| once they overvolted CPU, now RAM :|
New F4b for DS4.
http://ggts.gigabyte.com.tw/FileList/385644/965pds4.f4b
Looks to me to be more overclockable than previous bioses! :toast:
thanks for the BIOS...will flash it in a shortwhile...
im gonna try this right away ...Quote:
Originally Posted by soki
did they say what it fixes?
Fix OC problems related to DDR II PC800Quote:
Originally Posted by a5h
Quote:
Originally Posted by soki
i got lost
F4C
F4 retail
F4e
F4b?
from the oldest to the newest one? :|
It is for DS4, not DS3 ! :nono:
:p:
DS4 + TeamGroup 2x1GB 3-3-3-8 = NO BOOT
No boot with 1 stick nor 2...
...a generic 512MB stick works fine...
...tried upping vDimm (1.9V to 2.1V)...
...tried setting alpha timings manually...
...tried resetting bios for hours...
...tried with every bios.
I can't believe both sticks could actually be DOA.
:mad:
Anyone have any ideas?
:confused:
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Originally Posted by groslolo
thx man!!!!!!!!! :am:
try to clear cmos, or set vdimm to normal.Quote:
Originally Posted by largon
thanks man ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by soki
Tonight i will try this bios.....
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Originally Posted by CrazyJohn
john the F4 Retail is the last bios gigabyte made for the DS3.
we are waiting for more betas.
soki,
Clear CMOS or default vDimm don't help. :(
I'd like to know if someone actually has a DS4 that works fine with these Team sticks.
shi+ i thought F4e is the latest!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
i guess it appeared after the retail F4 !? :| or i just missed sth on the forum :)
it would be very idiotic to continue naming betas F4, after a retail bios F4 was made.
well then i find F4e more stable than F4 ?! sth's wrong ;]
w8ing for F5a :)
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Originally Posted by largon
here i am.....in 1:1 i'm able to reach 490mhz....
with 4:5 multiplier my mem can go up 540mhz....
i can boot with bios from f3(when i bought ram) to f4b ....
....your problem it's very strange....
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Originally Posted by CrazyJohn
hey show me the link for the F4e download i cant find it.
maybe i missed something
ill look when i get home but i thought the F4e was the one that came out right before the final retail F4
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Originally Posted by Lestat
Arent all the bioses with letters (F4a-e) dated before F4 final. THe next beta should be F5a.
F4 for DQ6 sucks for me
F3 worked better.
Is that F4c above the same as the F4 on their site?
NO:stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Sack
F4C BIOS for Giga 965P-DS3 is that newer or older then the one on the offical website?
OLDER
:banana::banana::banana::banana: people read the damn thread.
there is so much good info you new guys or new to ds3/4/6 NEED to read thru this thread.
its gunna help you alot.
F4 for the DS3 is the LAST BIOS RELEASED.
gigabyte has not released a new bios since the F4 Retail.
any betas from this point forward should be F5a
The reason the fsb settings wont save on these new boards is that people are using DVI monitors. I dunno if this is true, but I think it is, because my friends has the same mobo as I with the same bios (F4e) GA-965p-DS3, and he has same exact setup as me, except he has a RGB Monitor and I have a DVI Monitor.
He is able to overclock his e6300 to at least 2.8 GHz, and I am stuck here at 266 FSB! Looks like I'll have to buy a new monitor.. :\
No...get a VGA adapter and use the VGA port.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThermaltakeX
There is no VGA port on a 7900gt
Thanks dic, or do you go by Rich?;)Quote:
Originally Posted by aldamon
You are right...but you can use a VGA adapter and use the VGA port on your monitor instead of the DVI.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThermaltakeX
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThermaltakeX
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
OMG
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
WTF does having a DVI monitor have ANYTHING to do with saving the bios settings.
omfg...
ok there has GOT TO BE an award for this.
Kinda what I was thinking. I had DVI all day long with my DS3 OC'd.
:slapass:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
it's just.................lolzzzzzzzzzzzz
↓Quote:
Originally Posted by ThermaltakeX
↓Quote:
Originally Posted by mele
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThermaltakeX
Any new beta bios for the DQ6?...i have F4a and it sucks!
Hey, can anyone confirm to me the latest Bios for DS4? I just bought it yesterday gonna install it right away as soon as my new PSU is coming, and surley i'd like to use the latest bios to have the least of problems.
Thanks.
-Jo.
f4b for dq6 is available but there is a problem during update, so I can't post it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
f4c works (link)
I wouldn't laugh at all this funny DVI stuff yet. Something funny's definitely going on here. I got an Accelero today and stuck my NV6200 in so I could have PC on while working with 19XT. After doing so, I could not post w/ OC settings. It would reset bus back to 266 unless I put my 19XT back in. Oddest thing...maybe a reset to bios might help, eh? Anyway, the 19XT's back in and things are peachy.
hey stoner.Thanks for the link.It updated just fine.:clap:
Need info on how good is S3 for overclocking. Anyone ?
I'm using the DS3 w/ Final F4 bios.
My video card is also DVI (ATI X1800XT), and it is running stable on air with my E6400@3.44.
Maybe you need to try Final F4 instead of F4e. When I used F4e, I got the problem w/ cold boot.
http://www.jzelectronic.de/jz2/Download2/965pdq6f4c.exeQuote:
Originally Posted by GAM
**For DQ6 F4c beta bios**
Interesting - according to that http://www.jzelectronic.de/jz2/index.php link, it says for the F4C DQ6 BIOS:
Could this be the reason why I can't run stable at 400*8 with DDR2-800 RAM on my E6400? Hopefully you guys have luck with that too...Quote:
24.08.06
GA-965P-DQ6 - BetaBIOS Version F4c
1. Fix OC problems related to DDR II PC800
ZzzZzzZzz Can ANYONE please already confirm to me the latest bios version for the Gigabyte DS4?
-Jo.
latest final BIOS for ds4 is F3...latest beta BIOS for ds4 is F4b
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rectal Prolapse
they need to fix this freakin issue on the DS3 also
Thanks for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by soki
(I figured the link must have been there somewhere, so I looked around again and worked it out. Sorry :( )
Quote:
Originally Posted by stoner
Naw....F4c sucks big ones too!
DQ6 F4C fixed the problem I had with plugging in a sata optical drive breaking the RAID hdd setup on the Intel SATA ports.
I still can't overclock over 360.
IMHO.....The DQ6 is a peice of :banana::banana::banana::banana:!
Gigabyte sucks and makes :banana::banana::banana::banana:!
Don't by a Gigabyte board if you want to overclock your e6600!
Lame..............Quote:
Originally Posted by GAM
Really?...you can setup a RAID array on the Intel ports + add a SATA optical drive also on the Intel ports?...and the RAID array won't disappear?Quote:
Originally Posted by Deez Nuts
I agree....i have tried EVERYTHING. Nothing works, no amount of VCORE and MCH or FSB voltage will allow anything over 340FSB.Quote:
Originally Posted by mele
I tried dropping the multi to 6x on a E6600 B2, 400x6...no boot, 360FSB...no boot.
I'm oncve again tesing 311x9 = 2.8GHz...even that is not stable, i have to keep adding voltage to the VCORE to make it stable, while leaving the FSB and MCH voltages to default.
Even the memory which once only need 2.1V to boot now needs 2.3V, i am very very unhappy with the DQ6, it has been a nightmare.
Don't get me wrong, if everything is set to default it's great...but what the hell is the point of spending €1000 on hardware you can't overclock?
I mean, surely any E6600 should be able to do 2.8Ghz at default voltage, yet i'm approaching 1.375V :confused:
How can the DS3 be sooo radically different to the DQ6?, why????????
Right on! :banana:Quote:
Originally Posted by mele
Mele...can you please describe your bios settings in detail?Quote:
Originally Posted by mele
I have a B2 E6600 + DQ6, i cannot get stable past 310FSB.
My first post here, anyways
I have a DQ6 and a E6600, I am stable at 3.2ghz at 1.3825V (or whatever that one is)
My settings are as follows
BIOS F4a
Multi - 9
FSB - 356
PCIE - Auto
Mem - 2
(then mem settings)
3
3
3
10
-----
VDIMM - 0.475 (My OCZ PC2-6400 XTC EL 2gb needs a shedload of juice to get goin)
MCH - +0.2V
FSB - +0.2V
VCore - 1.3825
Thats stable for hours for me
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/5...375vqi9.th.png
I can also get 3.3ghz (367FSB) but I need 1.425V and I don't like the temps (coretemp hovering around 60), so 3.2 will do me, maybe if I get some watercooling.....still, this is stable and fast enough for me
Oh and also, I have used alot of these DQ6 BIOS', none have made any real difference to me (F3e, F3g, F3 final, F4a, F4c), all of them pretty much perform the same. I still can't get a 400FSB. Tested my memory at 1000mhz with lose timings, no worries.....FSB/CPU I guess..
Quote:
Originally Posted by mele
Did ever passed you mind they are beeing limited by CPU and not the board?
I had 4 CPUS in this board so far.
2xE6400 and I had no problem booting 400+
1xE6600 - I could not boot 310+ Everytime would freeze in windows. I had to raise FSB in setfsb.
Latest E6600 - Got it yesterday and just tried 350. Booted at first try and its rock stable.
Between the 2 E6600 didnt change a single setting.
Where is the problem here? Not the board as I see it. Some CPUs are very limited in OCing.
If you can raise the FSB in windows, how is the CPU limited? If the chip will still OC using software OCing tools = board needs some tweaking.Quote:
Originally Posted by MonkSP
ALL and I mean ALL the boards allow you to raise FSB beyond bootable settings. This is not a board issue.
Has to do with CPU extensions.
Yes, though it appears they are still working on it. In the past on older ichxr chipsets, you would only see the RAID BIOS in this config. Right now I get the AHCI BIOS, gives SMART errors on the hdd's, then the RAID BIOS loads and lists my array as it normally would.Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
My USB ports however, don't seem to function that well anymore.
So you have one chip that boots at 310 and the other boots at 350, and you think this is a CPU issue, even though you can clock farther in windows? I still don't buy it. I find it hard to believe that a 6600 can't boot higher then 2.8 GHz.Quote:
Originally Posted by MonkSP
A simpler and probably more accurate explanation is that the current boards/BIOSes suck.
New bios revision for DQ6-F4d (1.Fix Optimized for PXE boot with Syslinux) (2.Fix OC problems related to DDR II PC800 )
http://www.jzelectronic.de/jz2/index.php. On the buttom of the page select the right bios for you. Heave fun