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Sergio is a master of stability.
lol thanks my friend just doing the best i can...now that gigabyte is not going to do a new bios for this amazing mobo :(Quote:
Originally Posted by NoGuru
I had a -WTF- moment yesterday with that motherboard. As I was building up OS, the system dropped off the face of the planet into some sort of limbo/endless reboot situation. I spent about 5 minutes cursing (as in "GIGABUTT!!!, I'M TOO OLD FOR THIS NONSENSE!" and 10s more words :D ) before I regained my composure. After stripping all non-essential components, rechecking connections/cabling, looking for debris, (clearing CMOS alone did nothing), etc, the motherboard once again came to life. It sprung back with a warning about a POST error and suggested I choose "last known good" from its menu.. OK... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
All is well, for now.......... :D
XmX
EDIT : For the record, the above happened at stock speeds (NO OC) with a (test-bed) Celeron E1200 @ F2d rom.
Hunh.. really? ..or maybe this will be like the x48 blackops adventure/experience, where they took about 2 yrs to dial-in a beta bios that fixed up most of the known bugs. :D (I'm actually impressed they went this far, considering how the quantum force group was gutted by foxconn - post-2008 economic-meltdown fears.)Quote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
I'm hoping for more from Gigabyte. Come on guys, I don't want to buy ASUS boards in the future. :D
XmX
Considering how much heat/watts my Q9650s seem to dump beyond 3.8 GHz, I'll be happy with solid ~4 GHz in a 24/7 air-cooled system. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by radaja
XmX
+10 you heard that gigabyte !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by xmikex
when giga dont like mem, skews or references will do this, consider this was reduced and a lot on the USB3P...i never use AUTO...if you gonna use do with NORMALQuote:
Originally Posted by XmikeX
Due to previous experiences elsewhere, I also avoid AUTO whenever I can. However, after this little event, I became slightly paranoid and set as many things as I could to AUTO... Everything seems OK right now, but I suppose I'll have to make some changes. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
It's a shame this USB3P has no integrated boot-code hexadecimal led display. :down:
I hope I don't have to invest in something like this : http://www.akl-it.com/en/our-product...179-post-probe :scope:
XmX
andressergio
You have a moster chip, congrats :up:
thank you my friend :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by WaterFlex
i really dont see the help of that mate, UD3 series are well known for the reboot loops...just they made better on this onesQuote:
Originally Posted by XmikeX
just run 20 loops linx @ 4.230Ghz but with ram @ 1128Mhz - altered GTL refs to 0.670 and passed! but with highest cpu temp of 70c - is this OK? nothing else i do appart from linx will give temps of anything close to this = P95 is normally 15c lower than linx and games gives me high 40s
dropped gtl refs to 0.660x and dropped vtt to 1.28v getting solid 56Gflops will post screeny soon:) 81c cpu under linx load - i suppose thats ok as nothing comes close to this amount of stress, not game, not P95 etc.. it was only for 20 mins!!
EDIT: for some reason lowering those gtl refs from 0.670 to 0.660x has increased my gflops output - but increased my temps?? why is that anyone????
been messing with OC and i get this odd thing happeneing:
My load temps using 1.3375v were 82c (20 loops LinX)
But when I drop my vCore to 1.33125v my load temps are 72c ( 20 loops LinX)
why the massive drop in temps with only a 0.00625v decrease in vCore?
p5q deluxe.
Cure time on TIM, ambiants, misreading sensors???????Quote:
Originally Posted by grishenko45
I got this chip for nearly a few months now and I kept it at 4GHz with no problems. I saw everyone is hitting much higher so I tried to hit 480x9=4.32. No matter how I mess with the voltages, I always fail Linx. The included SS is set at 480 FSB and multi at 8.5 so I can be sure the mobo is not the limiting factor for 480 FSB. Any ideas?
Batch # L0826B006
Vtt 1.4
Vcore 1.35 BIOS LLC ON
vmch 1.26
Vpll 1.59
Vmem 1.96, loosened timings (stable as seen in SS. Will tune later.)
Tried Vtt 1.44
Vcore 1.425
vmch 1.34
No go...
Attachment 107825
EDIT:
Tried 1.5 vtt
1.45 vcore
1.4 vmch
Still no go. Looks like I hit the limit with this chip? The highest I can get stable regardless of voltages is 4.18. I thought the B were monsters...
@pogiman:
List all of your bios settings using this template:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=2378
Yeah what are your skews and ref's at pogiman? They will make or break your OC.
Here are my settings. I tried with one stick and four sticks of RAM, still freezes. Just the fact that its pretty stable by just lowering the multi makes it seems that the CPU just cannot go over 4.2ghz
@NoGuru - my ref are set to 66%. I tried 65% and system freezes as well. I havent tried higher yet.
******Motherboard Intelligent Tweaker (M.I.T.)******
Robust Graphics Booster.........................[auto ]
CPU Clock Ratio.................................[ 9 ]
Fine CPU Clock Ratio............................[ + 0.0 ]
CPU Frequency 4.32GHz............................[ 480 x 9.0]
******Clock Chip Control******
CPU Host Clock Control..........................[ disabled ]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz)........................[ 480 ]
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz).....................[ 100 ]
C.I.A 2.........................................[ Disabled ]
******Advanced Clock Control******
CPU Clock Drive.................................[ 800mv ]
PCI Express Clock Drive.........................[ 800mv ]
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tWR[13].........................................[ 6 ]
tRFC[68] .......................................[ 52 ]
tRTP[4].........................................[ 3 ]
Command Rate (cmd)[0]...........................[ Auto ]
******Channel A Timing Settings******
Static tRead Value [ 9 ] ................[ 9 ]
tRD Phase0 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD Phase1 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD Phase2 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD Phase3 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD 2rd (Differnt Rank) [ 8 ] ................[ auto ]
tWR 2wr (Differnt Rank) [ 8 ] ................[ auto ]
tWR 2rd (Differnt Rank) [ 7 ] ................[ auto ]
tRD 2wr (Same/Difft Rank) [ 9 ] ................[ auto ]
Dimm 1 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto ]
Dimm 2 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto ]
DDR Write Training..............................[ Auto ]
******Channel A Driving Settings******
Drive Strength Profile..........................[ Auto ]
Data Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto ]
cmd Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto ]
ctrl Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto ]
clk Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto ]
Data Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto ]
cmd Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto ]
ctrl Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto ]
clk Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto ]
******Channel B Timing Settings******
Static tRead Value [ 9 ] ................[ 9 ]
tRD Phase0 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD Phase1 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD Phase2 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD Phase3 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD 2rd (Differnt Rank) [ 8 ] ................[ auto ]
tWR 2wr (Differnt Rank) [ 8 ] ................[ auto ]
tWR 2rd (Differnt Rank) [ 7 ] ................[ auto ]
tRD 2wr (Same/Difft Rank) [ 9 ] ................[ auto ]
Dimm 1 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto ]
Dimm 2 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto ]
DDR Write Training..............................[ Auto ]
******Channel B Driving Settings******
Drive Strength Profile..........................[ Auto ]
Data Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto ]
cmd Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto ]
ctrl Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto ]
clk Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto ]
Data Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto ]
cmd Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto ]
ctrl Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto ]
clk Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto ]
******Motherboard Voltage Control******
Load-Line Calibration...........................[ Enabled ]
CPU Vcore [ 1.1875 ]...................[ 1.45 ]
CPU Termination [ 1.20 ]...................[ 1.50 ]
CPU PLL [ 1.50 ]...................[ 1.590 ]
CPU Reference [ 0.760 ]...................[ 0.99 ]
MCH Core [ 1.100 ]...................[ 1.40 ]
MCH Reference [ 0.760 ]...................[ 0.99 ]
MCH/DRAM Refernce [ 0.900 ]...................[ normal ]
ICH I/O [ 1.500 ]...................[ 1.570 ]
ICH Core [ 1.100 ]...................[ 1.200 ]
DRAM Voltage [ 1.800 ]...................[ 1.9600 ]
DRAM Termination [ 0.900 ]...................[ normal ]
Channel A Ref [ 0.900 ]...................[ normal ]
Channel B Ref [ 0.900 ]...................[ normal ]
******Advanced BIOS Features******
Limit CPUID Max to 3............................[ Disabled ]
No-Execute memory Protect.......................[ Disabled ]
CPU Enhance Halt (CIE)..........................[ Disabled ]
C2/C2E State Support............................[ Disabled ]
C4/C4E State Support............................[ Disabled ]
CPU Thermal Monitor.............................[ Disabled ]
CPU EIST Function...............................[ Disabled ]
Virtualization Technology.......................[ Disabled ]
Quote:
Originally Posted by pogiman
Try this,
*****Motherboard Intelligent Tweaker (M.I.T.)******
Robust Graphics Booster.........................[auto ]
CPU Clock Ratio.................................[ 9 ]
Fine CPU Clock Ratio............................[ + 0.0 ]
CPU Frequency 4.32GHz............................[ 480 x 9.0]
******Clock Chip Control******
CPU Host Clock Control..........................[ disabled ]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz)........................[ 480 ]
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz).....................[ 100 ]
C.I.A 2.........................................[ Disabled ]
******Advanced Clock Control******
CPU Clock Drive.................................[ 800mv ]
PCI Express Clock Drive.........................[ 900mv ]
CPU Clock Skew..................................[ 0ps ]
MCH Clock Skew..................................[ 50ps ]
******DRAM Performance Control******
Performance Enhance.............................[ standard ]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P)..................[ disabled ]
(G) MCH Frequency Latch.........................[ 400 ]
System Memory Multipler.........................[ 2.00D ]
Memory Frequency 1066...........................[ 960 ]
DRAM Timing Selectable..........................[ Manual ]
CAS Latency Time................................[ 5 ]
tRCD............................................[ 5 ]
tRP.............................................[ 5 ]
tRAS............................................[ 15 ]
******Advanced Timing Control******
tRRD[4].........................................[ 3 ]
tWTR[4].........................................[ 3 ]
tWR[13].........................................[ 6 ]
tRFC[68] .......................................[ 52 ]
tRTP[4].........................................[ 3 ]
Command Rate (cmd)[0]...........................[ Auto ]
******Channel A Timing Settings******
Static tRead Value [ 9 ] ................[ 9 ]
tRD Phase0 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD Phase1 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD Phase2 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD Phase3 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD 2rd (Differnt Rank) [ 8 ] ................[ auto ]
tWR 2wr (Differnt Rank) [ 8 ] ................[ auto ]
tWR 2rd (Differnt Rank) [ 7 ] ................[ auto ]
tRD 2wr (Same/Difft Rank) [ 9 ] ................[ auto ]
Dimm 1 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto ]
Dimm 2 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto ]
DDR Write Training..............................[ Auto ]
******Channel A Driving Settings******
Drive Strength Profile..........................[ Auto ]
Data Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto ]
cmd Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto ]
ctrl Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto ]
clk Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto ]
Data Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto ]
cmd Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto ]
ctrl Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto ]
clk Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto ]
******Channel B Timing Settings******
Static tRead Value [ 9 ] ................[ 9 ]
tRD Phase0 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD Phase1 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD Phase2 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD Phase3 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD 2rd (Differnt Rank) [ 8 ] ................[ auto ]
tWR 2wr (Differnt Rank) [ 8 ] ................[ auto ]
tWR 2rd (Differnt Rank) [ 7 ] ................[ auto ]
tRD 2wr (Same/Difft Rank) [ 9 ] ................[ auto ]
Dimm 1 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto ]
Dimm 2 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto ]
DDR Write Training..............................[ Auto ]
******Channel B Driving Settings******
Drive Strength Profile..........................[ Auto ]
Data Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto ]
cmd Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto ]
ctrl Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto ]
clk Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto ]
Data Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto ]
cmd Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto ]
ctrl Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto ]
clk Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto ]
******Motherboard Voltage Control******
Load-Line Calibration...........................[ Enabled ]
CPU Vcore [ 1.1875 ]...................[ 1.45 ]
CPU Termination [ 1.20 ]...................[ 1.30 ]
CPU PLL [ 1.50 ]...................[ 1.50 ]
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MCH Core [ 1.100 ]...................[ 1.38 ]
MCH Reference [ 0.760 ]...................[ 0.863 ]
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ICH I/O [ 1.500 ]...................[ 1.570 ]
ICH Core [ 1.100 ]...................[ 1.200 ]
DRAM Voltage [ 1.800 ]...................[ 1.9600 ]
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Channel A Ref [ 0.900 ]...................[ Auto ]
Channel B Ref [ 0.900 ]...................[ Auto ]
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Limit CPUID Max to 3............................[ Disabled ]
No-Execute memory Protect.......................[ Disabled ]
CPU Enhance Halt (CIE)..........................[ Disabled ]
C2/C2E State Support............................[ Disabled ]
C4/C4E State Support............................[ Disabled ]
CPU Thermal Monitor.............................[ Disabled ]
CPU EIST Function...............................[ Disabled ]
Virtualization Technology.......................[ Disabled ]
Nope. I increased vcore to 1.475 and then vtt to 1.36, still no go. I then increased vmch to 1.40 still no go. For this test, I set my mem to 2.1V to be sure they are not the problem. It is the Gskill with powerchips, so imm sure they are not the issue. I am out of ideas for this chip.
On a side note: When increasing vtt and vcore to the above values, it freezes within 1 minute of Linx. Using the values Hoss311 gave allows Linx to run for 5 minutes before locking up. I am now testing it at 4.25vcore and 1.3vtt and so far, it has pass the first run. Could be the cpu getting too hot?
EDIT: Passing 4 runs utilizing 6900MB. 23 minutes without error. I'll do some gaming on it and see if its stable.
So if Hoss's settings are getting you closer, what has changed from your old MIT? Try changing those values one at a time in each direction until you can go longer.
Ok Hoss's setting get me through at least 4 passes on linx but I crash in L4D2 within 3 minutes of entering a game. I also had the vcore lowered to 4.25, so it may seem vcore is not holding me back. Could be the vtt since it was at 1.3, however, in my previous tests, I had vtt at 1.5V and it still froze. GTL is always set at 66%. I will give it another go with the new skew settings at the higher voltages.
Some of the files were giving me a CRC error on all the drives. (cannot extract with winrar) It happens on usb drives as well. I am reinstalling windows now. Maybe all the lockups corrupted something? Oh well, more wear and tear on my SSD give me a reason to buy that 600GB SSD in a few years. :)
if it crashes on games after linx its MCH, pump it up to 1,42 and retry---VTT won't help and remember to keep it near vcoreQuote:
Originally Posted by pogiman
cheers
Sergio
Question: If keep all timing and FSB settings the same and I only adjusted the voltage settings, the GFLOPS change. I thought it was the mobo setting its own internal timings so I did tested it by retstarting and doing a "cold boot." I get the same number again. It is only when i change the voltages, the numbers change. Is this because the mch has its own timings that is adjusted automatically? The residual number remains the same, however.Quote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
How are the later B and C revisions overclock wise?
Anyone with a sub 1.4V 4.5Ghz 24/7 air stable chip?
4.5Ghz 24/7 air = not possible
lol my X3380 does 5ghz on air :)Quote:
Originally Posted by OLDcomer
4500 stable at 1,376
well depends i had the same situations when wasnt stable...but also some versions of linx did thatQuote:
Originally Posted by pogiman
Well, there is "tiny" difference between running super pi 1MB and 20 LinX loops with 3GB+ memory allocated + 8hr prime95 x64 blend @ priority 10 + a couple of days crunching Rosetta@home for instance. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
Recently, I bought ga-ep45-ud3p again to give it a chance with my q9650 e0, because last time, 450fsb with the same board but with q9550 c1 was impossible. The result is completely different now:
q9650@4815MHz(9x535) 5.89
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/6132/95238595.th.png
very nice results:up: quads at 535fsb is such a sweet thing to see:DQuote:
Originally Posted by OLDcomer
Jorbl3r had a chip that could do 4.5 @ 1.35 on air on a crappy HDT air cooler.Quote:
Originally Posted by OLDcomer
Chilled water or just regular wc?Quote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
I've been dying to get my hands on a 4.5Ghz Q9650. Do not want to switch to 1366 just yet because I know UD3Ps / Q9650s so well.
4400@1.376V running the motherboard outside the case.Quote:
Originally Posted by LiquidReactor
I have his Q9650 and it did 4.8 on air, I think it's in my sig.Quote:
Originally Posted by OLDcomer
It did a picture @ 4.8 on air. LiquidReactor is asking about 24/7 system.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoGuru
and here is the air winner :D:D
http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/banner/981831.png
not stable, only CPU-Z verification ;);)
Maybe not the winner but definitely one of the highest air clocks. :up: This is the highest I got mine on air using a S1283/FM122 fan, and if I remember correctly I believe Jor had a run closer to 5ghz with cold air.
http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/banner/509199.png
He reran it later at 4.5Ghz ~ 1.35V after he ran did couple LN2 benchies with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by OLDcomer
NoGuru is a lucker :)
LOL, thanks! I may be selling it soon though.Quote:
Originally Posted by WaterFlex
if u sell your mobo and want to send it to europe then il be intrested ;)
http://i52.tinypic.com/qzm8ts.png
http://i56.tinypic.com/2m487k9.png
some stability issues:ROTF::rofl::ROTF::rofl:
why it says no errors?
I was trying to be sarcastic;)Quote:
Originally Posted by MrDucky
regardless I think it is funny that this cpu can pass a full week of p95 but can't manage 20 passes of linx:rofl:
either way it has been working great with no problems in any games.
what happens when u linx then?
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrDucky
with the above settings it reboots before one loop is done. With different refs I have gotten 11 passes complete before a reboot.
What were the core temperatures and did the fans stop for a few seconds when the system restarted?Quote:
Originally Posted by l0ud_sil3nc3
yup and then I need to turn off power to the psu or else I get a reboot loop similar to what you would get if you had a failed oc.Quote:
Originally Posted by OLDcomer
Give it a try with LLC Disabled but with higher vcore to compensate the vdrop.
l0ud_sil3nc3
nice chip mate :up:
I just got a Q9650 (batch# L017B688) and have it running at 4 Ghz with 1.3 Vcore.
Temps are 52/44/46/47 when folding with SMP on water.
Could I push this to 4.5??
Mel
Temps look good but your going to have to crank up the volt's to get it to 4.5Quote:
Originally Posted by mele
might as well try until you top out in temps.
jeeeeeze l0ud that prime is longer than the road on your wallpaper :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by l0ud_sil3nc3
congrats !
mel is that 1,3 for 4000 stable ? you will need to try some volts as NoGuru saidQuote:
Originally Posted by mele
VTT 1,36 / VCORE 1,4+ / MCH 1,46 i dont know EVGA gust GIGA world, and a bit of vdimm on your mem
Good luck
Sergio
775 still fun
Sergio,Quote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
Thanks, I just decided to leave it @ 4G. Using it for folding, so @ just 1.3v it runs cool.
Mel
hey guys, another slight problem here! i'm 20 loops linx stable at the following:
4.365Ghz @ 1.36250 (bios) - cpuz reads - idle 1.352v - load 1.368v
RAM - 970Mhz 1:1 2.1v (stock volts as they're 1066's)
vNB - 1.34v
VTT - 1.32v
LLC on
all spectrums off
0.660 gtl refs 0-4
cpu pll - 1.54v
this is on a p5q deluxe with 2301 bios
it's stable running linx for 20 loops and only hits 76c as it's liquid cooled, but all games are juddering badly like lag on an online game. ive had this before, but a 4ghz/4.1Ghz,
now i'm pretty much overclocking to the chips limits it's getting harder to know what to increase voltage wise.
the northbridge has got the stock heatsink with a 120mm fan blowing over it about 20 cm away on the case panel.
any suggestions?
thanks
That is about max for the board. If it's stuttering I would turn the OC down a little.Quote:
Originally Posted by grishenko45
gutted!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by NoGuru
i know all the other max OC's with the quads are all on gigys ud5/6, but i really wanted to crack 4.4Ghz - was my ultimate goal!
why does it stutter then?
is there nothing i could increase to get 4.365Ghz stable? my vNB was only at 1.34v and the cpu PLL at 1.56v, the vtt was low too.
it passed all linx tests and pumped out more gflops than i've ever got.
As long as you have good air flow crank the NB volts up a bit they will help you a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by grishenko45