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07-06-2010, 08:35 AM
usz

Quote:

Originally Posted by KaRLiToS

Yeah you're right
WhaT IS PWN frequency anyway?

(Thanx for the fast Answer and my noob questions)

I think you can find all the information you need in The Overclocker Issue 9 in article "Overclocking Motherboards The Scientific Way" which can be found here starting at page 12.
07-06-2010, 10:04 AM
fmsam

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnmark

Anyone know if the Swiftech MCW-NBMAX block fits onto this board?
Been playing with the board on air but am getting ready to replace the RE Gene board with the REIII and the loop already contains the Swiftech block.
Also anyone know how much better cooling one gets out of the EK full coverage block vs the fusion block (NB/SB temps)? Yes I know the full coverage does mosfets +, but just trying to get a general idea if the fusion block will do the trick for now. It's summer up north here, so I don't have much time to rebuild my loop adding the EK full coverage block at this time, plus I want to minimize my downtime right now for WCG.

TIA

yep, that block fits right where the additional fan goes but you'd be well advised to re-do the tim on the whole assembly first.
07-06-2010, 11:08 AM
donmarkoni

Quote:

Originally Posted by baronnight

nah, i would like install my os on ssd and all my games and apps on raid 0 HDD.

Why not! :up: I was installing (a year ago, or so) system on one HDD, while having RAID 0 with two other HDD's. Then I added one more HDD to pair with system disk in RAID 0. All worked well until I had to change from nForce680i to X58. :ROTF:

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaka_89

im able to hit 4.2 g's with lower bclk and high multiplier, HT and turbo off, it seems that, with that kind of configuration, CPuV tends to be lower..

http://i645.photobucket.com/albums/u.../168x25422.png

my gflops calculation are low and sucks too..:(..trying to go uncore more than 3368, but it keeps failed..:confused:..

can you help me getting uncore 4k..??

here is my bios template

Code:

Target CPU Frequency 4220MHz Target DRAM Frequency 1683MHz LN2 Mode: Disabled*** QPI Loadline Calibration: Enabled*** Sync Mode [Enabled] AI Overclock Tuner [Manual] OC From CPU level Up [Auto] CPU Ratio Setting [25.0] CPU Turbo Power Limit [Disabled] >CPU Configuration---------------------------- CPU Ratio Setting [25.0] C1E Support [Disabled] Hardware Prefetcher [Disabled] Adjacent Cache Line Prefetcher [Disabled] Intel(R) Virtualiyation Tech [Disabled] CPU TM Function [Disabled] Execute Disable Bit [Disabled] Intel(R) HT Technology [Disabled] Active Processor Cores [All] A20M [Disabled] Intel(R) SpeedStep(TM) Tech [Disabled] Intel(R) C-STATE Tech [Disabled] C State package limit setting [Auto] ---------------------------------------------- BCLK Frequency [168] PCIE Frequency [100] DRAM Frequency [1684] UCLK Frequency [3368] QPI Link Data Rate [7704] Memory Configuration Protect [Disabled] >DRAM Timing Control-------------------------- CAS# Latency 9 [8] RAS# to CAS# Delay 9 [8] RAS# PRE Time 9 [8] RAS# ACT Time 24 [24] RAS# to RAS# Delay 4 [Auto] REF Cycle Time 72 [Auto] WRITE Recovery Time 12 [Auto] READ to PRE Time 6 [Auto] FOUR ACT WIN Time 24 [Auto] Back-To-BackCAS# Delay 0 [Auto] Timing Mode 1N [1N] Round Trip Latency on CHA 63 [Auto] Round Trip Latency on CHB 65 [Auto] Round Trip Latency on CHC 66 [Auto] WRITE To READ Delay(DD) 8 [Auto] WRITE To READ Delay(DR) 8 [Auto] WRITE To READ Delay(SR) 18 [Auto] READ To WRITE Delay(DD) 7 [Auto] READ To WRITE Delay(DR) 7 [Auto] READ To WRITE Delay(SR) 7 [Auto] READ To READ Delay(DD) 7 [Auto] READ To READ Delay(DR) 6 [Auto] READ To READ Delay(SR) 4 [Auto] WRITE To WRITE Delay(DD) 8 [Auto] WRITE To WRITE Delay(DR) 8 [Auto] WRITE To WRITE Delay(SR) 18 [Auto] ---------------------------------------------- CPU Differential Amplitude [Auto] CPU Clock Skew [Auto] IOH Clock Skew [Auto] ------------ Extreme Engine Digi+ ------------ Digi+ PWR Mode [T-Balanced] PWR Volt. Control [Auto] Load-Line Calibration [Full] CPU Voltege OCP [Enabled] CPU PWM Frequency [Auto] Extreme OV [Disabled] Extreme OC [Auto] CPU Voltage 1.415 [1.37500] CPU PLL Voltage 1.812 [Auto] QPI/DRAM Core Voltage 1.310 [1.31250] DRAM Bus Voltage 1.654 [Auto] >DRAM REF Voltages---------------------------- DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA [Auto] DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHA [Auto] DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB [Auto] DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHB [Auto] DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHC [Auto] DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHC [Auto] ---------------------------------------------- IOH Voltage 1.244 [Auto] IOH PCIE Voltage 1.508 [Auto] ICH Voltage 1.111 [Auto] ICH PCIE Voltage [Auto] ---------- Spread Spectrum Control ----------- CPU Spread Spectrum [Disabled] DRAM Spread Spectrum [Disabled]

I changed and colored some BIOS settings for you to try.
First of all, did you set QPI Load Line Calibration using on-board jumper, or just forgot to edit that setting?
For the higher UnCore you must raise RTL's. Set it to Auto just to get an idea where they should be. I think it will be set something like the numbers I wrote in your template, or it might be even higher, IDK those are maybe for CAS 7.
Also, change tRRD from 4 to Auto for starters.
You will need to play with your voltages, as you were advised already. For UnCore close or equal to 4000, you will need much more voltage.
In my case it is like this: UnCore 3600 - 1.3V VTT (QPI/DRAM) , UnCore 4000 - 1.425V VTT
07-06-2010, 01:50 PM
tistou77

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxxx

I am using an X5680 and a W3680 on my R3E. OC is possible. Screenie below is from X5680. Not the best vcore around though....

http://i402.photobucket.com/albums/p...zcas8_Edit.jpg

thank you for your reply

I'd like to put an E5630, coeff21 possible, I think? (it's turbo mode at 2.8GHz)

there is no problem with 2 QPI link? (with bios options, etc...)

and with IMC (memory controller), and a memory @2000MHz (1000MHz) without problem?
the uncore to 3000MHz (@ 2000 ram) will not be a problem with a Xeon?

thank you very much ;)
07-06-2010, 04:05 PM
Bodar

Hav'nt tried the new bios but GAWD! I love this board! :D

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...iolet/6700.png

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...stpifast-1.png

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...t/bestpi1m.png

and here was the temp the whole time!! :D

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...iolet/-185.jpg
07-06-2010, 04:19 PM
Expat GriZ

WOW!! Congrats Bodar!! Sick chip....from reading this thread I know you've gone through a few chips...good to see you found a BEAUT!!! Which batch is it??

NICE ONE!!!!

& just 2GB ram?? Testing??
07-06-2010, 04:33 PM
Johnmark

Quote:

Originally Posted by fmsam

yep, that block fits right where the additional fan goes but you'd be well advised to re-do the tim on the whole assembly first.

Thanks, are you running that block? I realize many here have had trouble with the REIII's build quality including the goop on the blocks. I've got a new board and it seems fine, everything works great at first the NB/SB where way too hot, but I didn't have much of any air flow and the blocks where very hot so the heat was being transfered, just not to the air. Put a 120mm fan blowing across the board and now the highest I get with a 30% OC and WCG crunching, is 50c which tells me there is good contact.
I'll have to clean her up later anyways once the EK FC block goes on.
Curious what users that installed the EK FC block have to say about it overall performance?
07-06-2010, 04:43 PM
Bodar

Thanks so much Expat Griz!! :D I was running a few tests.. Need to improve my timings and add some more mem ect.. but I think it's a good one. Yeah... It's the same batch! :)
07-06-2010, 05:51 PM
KaRLiToS

Quote:

Originally Posted by usz

I think you can find all the information you need in The Overclocker Issue 9 in article "Overclocking Motherboards The Scientific Way" which can be found here starting at page 12.

Thank you very much...The link you gave me was awsome.
I didnt know there were some Overclocking Magazines.
I think I'll order those one.
:up:
07-06-2010, 06:12 PM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnmark

Thanks, are you running that block? I realize many here have had trouble with the REIII's build quality including the goop on the blocks. I've got a new board and it seems fine, everything works great at first the NB/SB where way too hot, but I didn't have much of any air flow and the blocks where very hot so the heat was being transfered, just not to the air. Put a 120mm fan blowing across the board and now the highest I get with a 30% OC and WCG crunching, is 50c which tells me there is good contact.
I'll have to clean her up later anyways once the EK FC block goes on.
Curious what users that installed the EK FC block have to say about it overall performance?

a block on the nb does the job well
the pwn and sb get some cooling via heatpipe
i think a full block is a waste of $;)
07-06-2010, 08:07 PM
Utnorris

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnmark

Anyone know if the Swiftech MCW-NBMAX block fits onto this board?
Been playing with the board on air but am getting ready to replace the RE Gene board with the REIII and the loop already contains the Swiftech block.
Also anyone know how much better cooling one gets out of the EK full coverage block vs the fusion block (NB/SB temps)? Yes I know the full coverage does mosfets +, but just trying to get a general idea if the fusion block will do the trick for now. It's summer up north here, so I don't have much time to rebuild my loop adding the EK full coverage block at this time, plus I want to minimize my downtime right now for WCG.

TIA

As it has already been stated the Swiftech NBMax does fit this board, however I went with the EK version of that block:

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=24469

I went with it because the Swiftech leaked on me because my compression fittings didn't have thick enough o-rings to fill the gap of the recessed hole. My temps dropped from NB/SB being around 55c to around 40c using the block. I did redo the TIM under the OEM sink also, so I am sure that helped. Eventually I will probably go with either the EK or Koolance FC block mainly for looks, but I imagine based on previous experience that I will see an additional 5c drop.
07-06-2010, 11:32 PM
Toritechie

Quick question to current owners - are those extra holes on the motherboard near the cpu for a Socket 775 mounting?

I have a D-Tek Fuzion waterblock on my current system, and would love to be able to re-use it on my next purchase.

I'm debating the Maximus III Extreme vs the Rampage III Extreme. I like the fact that the new i7 875 is an unlocked CPU, I'd like to get a stable 4.5Ghz out of my overclock. But ... the 1366 is a better overall platform, and allows hex-core ... decisions decisions!
07-07-2010, 12:35 AM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toritechie

Quick question to current owners - are those extra holes on the motherboard near the cpu for a Socket 775 mounting?

I have a D-Tek Fuzion waterblock on my current system, and would love to be able to re-use it on my next purchase.

I'm debating the Maximus III Extreme vs the Rampage III Extreme. I like the fact that the new i7 875 is an unlocked CPU, I'd like to get a stable 4.5Ghz out of my overclock. But ... the 1366 is a better overall platform, and allows hex-core ... decisions decisions!

its got 775 holes;) recycle your d-tek its still a verry good block
better chance to hit 4.5 with 1366
hex core is overated lol
and so is the rexIII
you can get a 1366 bracket for you D-tek;)
i got a 760 classified commin i'm sure its better
07-07-2010, 12:48 AM
Leeghoofd

Depends which apps you are running Zsamz... Still no go for your 4.75 ?
07-07-2010, 12:49 AM
Toritechie

Quote:

Originally Posted by zsamz_

its got 775 holes;) recycle your d-tek its still a verry good block
better chance to hit 4.5 with 1366
hex core is overated lol
and so is the rexIII
you can get a 1366 bracket for you D-tek;)
i got a 760 classified commin i'm sure its better

Sounds like you've got a fair bit of experience with the board, I'm new to the platform, and can't afford an Extreme edition chip, looking for something very overclockable for this socket at a good 'bang for buck' price point.
07-07-2010, 12:57 AM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toritechie

Sounds like you've got a fair bit of experience with the board, I'm new to the platform, and can't afford an Extreme edition chip, looking for something very overclockable for this socket at a good 'bang for buck' price point.

the board aint worth it
the bios is geared for hex cores and subzero
as soon as i get my classy i'm boxing the board
bang for $ go 1156;)
if you close to a microcenter get a 875k for 200$
07-07-2010, 01:03 AM
Toritechie

Quote:

Originally Posted by zsamz_

the board aint worth it
the bios is geared for hex cores and subzero
as soon as i get my classy i'm boxing the board
bang for $ go 1156;)
if you close to a microcenter get a 875k for 200$

That was my original plan, but then I realised I couldn't mount my waterblock on the board I wanted to get (Maximus III Extreme); I'll have to do some more digging and see if I can discover a bracket for the D-Tek, or fork out some extra for a new water block.
07-07-2010, 02:12 AM
Ghostleader

@Toritechie

Forget 4,5GHz with a i7 875k with reasonable voltage and water, you be lucky if you can get 4,2GHz stable with reasonable voltage and temperature.

Sure it´s has the Bclk multiplier unlocked but the downside is that it still only have two uncore ratios, x16 and x18, so when one going for a lower Bclk one lose performance compare to Bclk 200 or higher.

For example

Bclk 133 vs 200

Bclk 133, max UnCore ~2400MHz

Bclk 200, max UnCore ~3600MHz

Big different and it´s noticeble in real life applications.

Bclk 160 vs 200

Bclk 160, max UnCore ~2880MHz

Bclk 200, max UnCore ~3600MHz

Still a different and it´s still noticeble in real life applications.

So one still want to the high Bclk so one not lose performace, that´s the downside, the pros is that it has a better price compare to the i7 870 so therefore it´s a relative good buy but don´t expect any over the hill overclock result with the i7 875k.

If you want 4,5GHz you probably have to go for a socket 1366 i7 and ditch that D-Tek for a EK Supreme LT, it has a good price performance ratio.

I run a i7 875k (Heatkiller cooled) with a MIIIF and done a bit of testing and even though I have the unlock ability I still run Bclk 200 as I did with my old i7 870 because of the lack of uncore ratios.

Hope it can help some, good luck with whatever you choose :)
07-07-2010, 04:10 AM
NathObeaN

This board is driving me nuts!

I first got it to run fine, prime95 24+ hours on 4GHz @ 1.28V (i7930).

Now it wouldn't pass properly with even 1.3V, I would wake up to find the LED on the graphics card was orange, so I thought mmm, maybe its the PCI-E frequency. I changed it from 100MHz to 101MHz, seemed to have solved the problem...

I am now back to my 4GHz OC @ 1.28V, 15hours prime95 stable thus far, however my graphics card then turned up the fan to 100%!? I couldn't stand the noise so I rebooted the computer. Any ideas? I will try again to make sure it wasn't a fluke but surely that shouldn't be happening? I guess if it does it again I could try 102MHz on the PCI-E. I swear my graphics card is on the way out though, might just get a RMA for it because it judders in game slightly as it is.
07-07-2010, 04:25 AM
Leeghoofd

Yor GPU needs replacement or a new aftermarket cooler... is your instablity caused by the motherboard or a GPU going bezerk ? First get everything sorted before continuing stress testing...

Quote:

Originally Posted by zsamz_

the board aint worth it, the bios is geared for hex cores and subzero

Hope you are happier with your classified. After two ones Gamer doesn't even bother to RMA this one ; one crap Bclocker, other one was dual channel only...

You can never satisfy everyone... I think your expectations where too high. Why would this board clock your 920 better ? To say the board is not worth it, dunno. It's one of the better boards out there...
07-07-2010, 04:30 AM
uncle fester

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bodar

Hav'nt tried the new bios but GAWD! I love this board! :D

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...iolet/6700.png

HOLY :banana::banana::banana::banana: BEANS BODAR That chip is awesome man im so jealous iv been binning 3005F720 and well best is doing 3d at 6.26ghz, man i gotta start trying your batches. Nice scores man and big congratz :)

Heres some of my benches from last couple of days, i think there is more in this chip but having vcore issues on r3e when measuring im noticed too mch vcore fluctuation and i have to set 2v to actually get 1.92. cpu-z doesnt read core correctly so use a dmm or rog connect. I have no CB on this chip if i drop to dual channel as the IMC craps out at -150 with tripple channel will test diff ram and more vdimm in hope of cureing this issue, my last 3003B242 had no CB at all with tripple channel but didnt clock as high as this chip. Other 3005F720 have been the same nothing too rave about, ill probably sit on this chip until 990x gets released im sick of spending obscene amounts of money chasing gold. will test this chip on xpower mobo see if there is any differance. Ill hit LN2 on gpu's soon see how that goes.

http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/4208/36158554.jpg

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/561/45685110.jpg
07-07-2010, 05:11 AM
OC Nub

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghostleader

@Toritechie

Forget 4,5GHz with a i7 875k with reasonable voltage and water, you be lucky if you can get 4,2GHz stable with reasonable voltage and temperature.

+1

They are very hard to get stable after 4.2, I have one Lynnfield, an 870 stable at 4500 but no HT 1.408v. Temps get to warm and they just dont want to run any faster. 1156 is very good with memory though and fun to play with.
07-07-2010, 05:35 AM
Toritechie

Quote:

Originally Posted by OC Nub

+1

They are very hard to get stable after 4.2, I have one Lynnfield, an 870 stable at 4500 but no HT 1.408v. Temps get to warm and they just dont want to run any faster. 1156 is very good with memory though and fun to play with.

I may go for the i7 930, looks decent, if I can squeeze between 4.2 and 4.5 out of it I will be pleased. It's the chip that replaced the 920? I see there is also a 960, but the difference appears to be only the stock clock on the chip, but double the price.
07-07-2010, 05:37 AM
Linuxfan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toritechie

I may go for the i7 930, looks decent, if I can squeeze between 4.2 and 4.5 out of it I will be pleased. It's the chip that replaced the 920? I see there is also a 960, but the difference appears to be only the stock clock on the chip, but double the price.

A 920 D0 or 930 will be a good choice. The 960 has a higher multiplier but otherwise is pretty much the same as a 930. :up:
07-07-2010, 07:26 AM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

Yor GPU needs replacement or a new aftermarket cooler... is your instablity caused by the motherboard or a GPU going bezerk ? First get everything sorted before continuing stress testing...

Hope you are happier with your classified. After two ones Gamer doesn't even bother to RMA this one ; one crap Bclocker, other one was dual channel only...

You can never satisfy everyone... I think your expectations where too high. Why would this board clock your 920 better ? To say the board is not worth it, dunno. It's one of the better boards out there...

i'm a bit fussy lol
to be honest i would be happier to have my rexII intead
i get random cold boot issues its verry weird
i have to test 2 boards hopefully they are better and hopefully i have the time

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toritechie

I may go for the i7 930, looks decent, if I can squeeze between 4.2 and 4.5 out of it I will be pleased. It's the chip that replaced the 920? I see there is also a 960, but the difference appears to be only the stock clock on the chip, but double the price.

dont waste $ on no 950 960
if you find a good 920 grab it
ot take a chance with a 930

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