"ASUS P5Q Deluxe discussion".

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Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

Try this... don't tweak all settings at once... some things are better left on auto on this board and certain ram combos... for the PL 10 will do fine, but you can go lower 8-9ish maybe, but with 10 it should post... if not try AUTO here...

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Hey thanks for the help. That get's it booting with an FSB of 400 and DDR800. I have tweaked it a little, Vcore is now 1.325V and it seems I might be able to get it lower. This gives me a good starting point. Temps are good, during Prime95 (four instances) my hottest core is 52C and my coolest is 43C. So it seems I have plenty of play room left, but I think I'm satisfied with what I have now. Maybe just tune a few things to get RAM latency down a little. Possibly try to find lowest stable Vcore.

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Originally Posted by aamsel

I noticed that you list BIOS 0803 but say to hold at 0704. Are you running 0803?

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Soz mate my signature isn't updated everytime I test something... 0704 is one of the better biosses without some of the bugs we experience right now...

1001 is in evaluation but it needs some polishing up... and plz guys if pmp doesn't post a new Beta bios plz ignore any other alpha links for your own good. If he doesn't think it's suitable like eg with 0901; you flash on ya own responsability...

I till now didn't encounter any instability with my current hardware... 0803 needed some slight alterations here to be stable... and ditch ya old profiles if ya had any... it's always better to start from scratch...

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Originally Posted by Corsa

It does work with the Zalman controller yes....but cant the Mb control it also ??
ps. He upgraded from a Giga P35 DS4 which was controlling the cpu fan.

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I will check that out here got a zalman lying around here it's an 8700...

Hoping that 1001 will have some major changes ;)

OK its my turn , I have my quad running at 4Ghz atm and trying to make it stable . Settings as follows:

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AI Overclock tuner: manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 10
FSB Frequency: 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge: auto
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-800
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: auto
DRAM Timing Control: manual

1st Information :
CAS# Latency: 4
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 4
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 4
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time: auto
Write Recovery Time: auto
Read to Precharge Time: auto

2nd Information :
READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): auto
Write to Read Delay (S): auto
WRITE to READ Delay (D): auto
READ to READ Delay (S): auto
READ to READ Delay (D): auto
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): auto
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): auto

3rd Information :
WRITE to PRE Delay: auto
READ to PRE Delay: auto
PRE to PRE Delay: auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay: auto
DRAM Static Read Control: auto
DRAM Read Training: auto
MEM. OC Charger: auto
AI Clock Twister: auto
AI Transaction Booster: auto
Common Performance Level [13]
Pull-In of CHA PH1: disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2: disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3: disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4: disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1: disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2: disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3: disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4: disabled

CPU Voltage: 1.45
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.63x
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0.63x
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.6
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.2
DRAM Voltage: 2.1
NB Voltage: 1.2
NB GTL Reference: 0.65x
SBridge Voltage: 1.2
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.6

Load Line Calibration: enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: disabled
CPU Clock Skew : normal
NB Clock Skew : normal

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 10
CPU VID: default
C1E Suppport: disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: enabled
Vanderpool Technology: disabled
CPU TM Function: disabled
Execute Disable Bit: disabled

Northbridge Chipset Config
Memory Remap - disabled

Bios version 704

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As it is here it fails prime in about 15mins , with looser ram timings 5-5-5-18 it lasted 30mins previously. What areas do you guys reckon i should tweak ? Clock skews, GTL's and CPl look like obvious ones.

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Concentrate on the GTL's for a while.

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CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.63x
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0.63x
NB GTL Reference: 0.65x

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All ? Some ? Higher/lower ? Trial and error ?

I have one weak core that fails long before the others , can anything help this ?

Cheers mate .

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Try these plz

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled

CPU Voltage: 1.45 = not good for 24/7 mate surely not with LLC enabled, on the way to fry ya CPU : do you need 1.45 for 4ghz ? bummer
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.26
DRAM Voltage: 2.1 = corresponds to about 2.2volts does your ram need 2.2 volts for 800mhz ops : nah not really
NB Voltage: 1.26
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO

first do a prime small FFT's for CPU stabilty, tweak ram later... blend with either one of the two not okay will never pass...

Nah I think the high vcore is masking something else up . I was running ram at 2.0v all auto (5-5-5-18) , just tried tighter in case it liked it .

I will try the rest and report back.

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Nup , it failed in less than a minute , I did lower vcore a bit too - 1.425v , 1.41 real loaded . It was stable at 1.38v real loaded on an x380dq6 .


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Its lasting now with vcore back up to 1.45 but this is just for that one core , the others keep going with much less juice.

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Originally Posted by aussie-revhead

All ? Some ? Higher/lower ? Trial and error ?

I have one weak core that fails long before the others , can anything help this ?

Cheers mate .

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Leave the NB GTL @ AUTO, but I couldn't get stability no matter what I tried with the CPU GTL's @ AUTO, so definitely give them some values. Mine found 24/7 stability around 0.67 .. cores 1/3 needed to be @ 0.675, cores 0/2 needed 0.670 ... now it's fulltime stable.

Also, check that vCore. 1.45v - way too high IMO! I'm @ 1.3625v for 3.8Ghz 24/7 Stable (On air).

Yah me to.

I've just put two WD 160GB hdds using Drive Xpert as "Super Speed" (Raid0?) is this slower/faster or the same as using the intel/red sata ports on the mobo?

It's slower than the Intel RAID from the tests I've seen.

k The latest 1001 alpha has been leaked on a german forum... if you flash do it, do it at your own risk... still too many bugs to be dealt with...so don't come in and flame about it...., sigh....

Raid0 is two drives acting as one. That = faster yes. Exspacialy in Vista from my own expierience with Vista. Her are my settings for my 3.8GHz Primestable setup. Advice shoot away,, I think my cpu temp is all screwy with this bios now by the way. It says 50 in the bios but, 40 in real temp "idle".

AI Overclock tuner: manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8
FSB Frequency: 475
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1141MHz
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: auto
DRAM Timing Control: manual

1st Information :
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: 5
Read to Precharge Time: 3

2nd Information :
READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): 7
Write to Read Delay (S): 3
WRITE to READ Delay (D): 5
READ to READ Delay (S): 4
READ to READ Delay (D): 6
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): 4
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): 6

3rd Information :
WRITE to PRE Delay: 14
READ to PRE Delay: 5
PRE to PRE Delay: 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: 6
ALL PRE to REF Delay: 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: auto
MEM. OC Charger: Enabled
AI Clock Twister: Stronger
AI Transaction Booster: Manual
Common Performance Level 8
Pull-In of CHA PH1: Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2: Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3: Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4: Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1: Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2: Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3: Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4: Enabled

CPU Voltage: 1.36250
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.630
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0.630
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.28
DRAM Voltage: 2.02 actual is 2.1
NB Voltage: 1.28
NB GTL Reference: 0.630
SBridge Voltage: 1.20
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.60

Load Line Calibration: enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : normal
NB Clock Skew : normal

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 8
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: disabled
Execute Disable Bit: disabled

Bios version 0704
Q9450

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Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

k The latest 1001 alpha has been leaked on a german forum...

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Mate, do you know how that happens ?

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Sure they get it for testing like me, and just post it, result again some users with maybe borked boards, people that moan that some issues still persist, some with OC'ing probs, some will be happy some will be not...not at all... find it all a bit sad, the guy doesn't even own the mobo and clocks his Q9550 at a pittyfull 2.8ghz... better buy a PS3 then...

But the folks that receive alfa bios to test can post them and continue as a tester ? :(

If they send me a bios to test do I get a treat?

you are allowed to post them for download after approval of the bios department (if they didn't post it before you lol)... they gather all the feedback... for me it's an isolated case as I only got this hardware to work with... eg some ram may be fab, other rams might s*ck... it's up to Asus to release it or not... not my call at all...

Well if he owned the mobo he would know or at least have seen some of the limitations... same with 0901 bios here that was posted... some lads just want to be the one that has posted the bios first... not thinking about the consequences at all...pretty sad to me... I have no probs with betas but alphas soz no....

This motherboard is alot more stable and solid then the EX38-DQ6 I had.. I would lose my overclocks all the time.. I hated that so much.

I get some odd behavior with usb ports. So far I noticed this during priming, since that's all what managed to do for extended period of time. While it primes usb ports power off for like 5-10 seconds and then power on back on. Prime does not fail.

WHICH temp is REAL?? Real Temp around 55° VS Everest and OCCTT around 65°???? BIOS 803.

Thanks for oppinion

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/5606/realtemppk7.jpg

Real Temp

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