I have been looking at that also.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
Kinda torn atm, I have a Q6600, Q6700( in shipping) and a E8400, trying to find the best board to achive my highest clocks. I find the RF hack to limit my bandwidth some. I got better bandwidth with MF bios running a 65nm quad.
Odd, because I've managed to get better bandwidth out of the RF conversion after playing with the settings extensively.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Get the RF, you won't regret it. Skip P45, when Nehalem drops we'll have no choice but to upgrade. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
You should be a PR guy for Asus, I'm thinking harder now on the Rampage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
Just got done reading your flamming post's on the q9450:ROTF:
A few got a little raw there. Anyways that is a nice stable clock you have on the Q9450, seems there might be a soloution to the fsb limit:up:
Anybody heard when the Maximus II or the X58 will be out?
how many mobos do you have? im only up to 3...Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Haha; I've had my fair share of dealing with rumor-mongers on this sweet forum. I have the Q9450 running at 8x482 fsb (3.856 Ghz) with 1.6v on the NB. I'm sure if I tried hard, I could take it to 8x500, but I gotta baby this little monster for the time being; plus my cpu sucks! Yikes!Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
The trick is to get them out the door as fast as they come in :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
but i like to horde hardware :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
really i need a new case, some ram... new psu... video card...
man, too much $$$ to be spent!
In 1 month, everything that is currently on the market will become 2 years obsolete. Well, maybe except for my RF :D Seriously, the hardware releases is going to get insane starting from next week. Drool.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
LoL. this board sitll needs a bios for 45nm quad and hynix 2gb dimms....
yea, the only things that dont go obsolete are psu and case and keyboard. im waiting till 4870 for my next video cards. im quite suprised my 2900pros have held out this long as far as being still competitive. i dont think my 3dmark06 is too shabby atm. mabye i should wait for 3870x2 price drop and pick up 2. i doubt even 2 4870's in crossfire could match that :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
too bad p45 has 8x 8x pcie... :shakes:
Another reason to consider x48 then.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
What is bandwidth like on 8x pci-e2 ? Does that make a difference ? ie will it bottleneck a 4870x2 ? If not then it doesnt really matter right ?
:up:
1) It is the equivalent of a normal PCI-E 16x [as PCI-E 2.0 is twice the bandwidth than PCI-E]Quote:
Originally Posted by aussie-revhead
2) No idea - and probably won't till the cards come out and are tested - but probably no still
3) Correct
Well here's my Formula S.E. flashed to the latest Rampage BIOS with my E8500. Keep in mind the CPU is the only thing watercooled, the mobo although its capable of watercooling is being cooled by one 120x38mm Delta.
4ghz 500 x 8(Daily setup)
http://www.its-inev.com/downloads/pics/temps_e8500.JPG
Superpi 4ghz
http://www.its-inev.com/downloads/pics/superpi.JPG
4.25ghz 500 x 8.5
http://www.its-inev.com/downloads/pics/4250_superpi.JPG
4.5ghz 500 x 9
http://www.its-inev.com/downloads/pics/4500_superpi.JPG
Everest with temps and cache performance
http://www.its-inev.com/downloads/pics/500fsbperf.JPG
And of course I couldn't resist 3dmark06@ 4.5ghz...19115 with 3870x2 @ stock speeds.
http://www.its-inev.com/downloads/pics/19115.JPG
thats why i have a dfi lt x48 tr2 ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
PM me directly and I can share my previously posted profiles for that CPU on MF BETA BIOS v0903 & 1004 as well as MF official v0602 (worked best for mine).Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSamurai
These work great for PC use and becaus they have such low flow restriction you can get away w/ low RPM fan (quiet) and moderate to low pnpm speed/flow.Quote:
Originally Posted by OVERK|LL
I would also remove the chipset IHS as well for an added 2-3C cooler. PM me for more more detailed tips to quickly and safely remove the OEM goop w/ an ear swob and Barrymans Carburater cleaner.Quote:
Originally Posted by scottath
Use 99.9% alcohal in a spray can to drip into gap on any given side of chipset IHS & NB cooler block. carefully twist w/ a medium 1/4" slotted driver. You can heat w/ soldering iron tip to keep hot to the touch but not to burn. PM me for more in detail if need be. See above "quote and reply to remove & clean up.Quote:
Originally Posted by HDPC
any people can oc Q9450 on MF se over 437 FSB??
can post setting in here?
:eek: Post a step-by-step guide.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
Here are my procs:
Quote:
Originally Posted by chawks2
Removing NB/SB integrated heat sink;Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
2 options, remove NB sink from IHS or remove IHS while still attached to sink. Not sure what is noted as easiest cause I did both pn several mobos and it's hit or miss which goes smoother. The obvious advantage of the removal of actual IHS off the chipset die is that you get the best of contack to the replaced cooler, wether it be OEM or aftermarket, any drop of temp is a "+".
Prepare; remove all plastic retention clips from back. Only one will stay in loose but at least free it from back (under mosfet cooler) Free SB section 1st as described below. make sure all the rest is free to allow the next step to go smoother.
Start w/ the method I describes much earlier for attempting to only remove heat sink, leaving IHS attached to chipset die. If for any reason it feels like its requiring too much effort, move on to carefully working at loosening and removing IHS from chipset die w/ heat sink still attached. (see below)
To help, I used a moderate heat soldering iron to heat my sink to just hot to the touch. Periodaccly, I dripped 99.7% alcohal into jiont where sink meets the IHS and IHS meets the die plate. for the most part, heat will soften the OEM thermal cement and allow alcohal to seap inbetween the IHS and sink 1st and you can gently work w/ a slotted screw driver of about 1/4" wide to sort of twist from base of die plate (the green plastic part) and under bottom of sink (the copper plate). Try from different sides to find the weakest and go from there. Once you see so much as any opening, hold and drop some alcohal into it and continue.
If the 1st method feels like it's taking too long then move to the IHS removal.
If you look down the mobo from front edge (RAM and SATA side), you will find a small indention at the fron fase of IHS. Usually this is often gooped over w/ cement so use a fine steel pick (size of tooth pick, I use my dental tools) to poke in the alcohal soaked area allowing the rest to fall in the opening. as it opens, try to work w/ mobo inverted upside down so alcohal loosens the IHS from the die as it is lithtly cemented from underneeth as well as lightly glued from edges where the IHS meets the plastic die plate (green part). now gently twist the entire heat sink as a unit (from SB and mosfet) over NB untill it begins to feel loose and wiggly. Add a few more drops of alcohal if need be to aid.
TIPS; If you are concerned of oops's, mask around chipset w/ painters tape and paper to reduce scratching by slip of tools.
To remove cemant and clean. I like to use Barrymans B-12 non residue brake cleaner in a spray to quickly soften and wipe away with cotton swab or ball. It drys fast so have plenty of wipes to remove desolved glue fast, repeat till gone, and finish final cleaning w/ above alcohal (99.7% as used for A/V head cleaning or tuner cleaner). This stuff is flamable so use outdoors and keep all electrical circuts OFF close to the work area. the high strength alcohal can be had at many electronis stores and even Frys has it in both open can or sray. Brake cleaner can be found many places such as Target, Wall-Mart and just about any automotive supply store.
Didn't mean to make this long but didn't wanna' miss anything either, but if you have any questions before going at it, PM me and or post reply.
And of corse as always, anything we do like this to our motherboards is all at our own risk so study carefully. Keep all removed parts in case of RMA, replace w/ any suitable thermal cement to return for whatever reason. They (ASUS) never hassled me yet.
did anyone had any idea about this?Quote:
Originally Posted by 430
http://www.chawks2.com/images/Puter/CoolNQuiet.MRF.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by 430
I have the HR05 on both the NB & SB. It comes really close to the outside RAM chips, but I think you would be fine. Dominators go straight up I dont believe their width is larger.
I just ( for fun ) setup a Raid0 XP install, the raid drivers installed without issue, and XP installed without issues, when XP booted for the first time it crashed and will continue to crash even in safe mode.
Any ideas? oh if this matters I'm using a 32bit student XP issue, should I try a corp or oem version instead?
i would try the corporate version first before oem. honestly though, i have no experience w/ raid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Thanks m8
I will try a Corp release next and see if its just the copy I'm using.
Do you not run raid?, I doubt it has much bennifit with the drives I'm using
It shouldn't make a difference as long as you inject the correct drivers/or F6 method. What drives are you using?Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
i dont use raid. only have 1 500gb hard drive and it works fast enough for me atm. if there is a huge difference in load times etc then i may consider switching later down the road.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
I'm usingQuote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/filt...4&submit=Go%21
As long as you have at least one SATA HDD to Intel SATA on ICH9R (wich is all on this mobo) and bIOS set to RIAD w/ boot ROM enabled, it is ready. Using f6 install, there is only 2 drivers, ax x86 (old 32bit) and x64 (64 bit modern). All versions of XP will utilize AHCI and or RAID Ready functionQuote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
YES, there is a noticable performance difference. Even for a single HDD in AHCI RAID Ready mode you get better read/write times w/ all the functions of full Intel AHCI as well as ability to migrate to Intel RAID later in XP. You must install in the same manner as outlined above, at least one HDD to ICH9R.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
I am running 2x 36Gb raptors in raid 0.
the only problem i have found is the system crashes on startup IF i use the MF bios. it would only crash on boot and when restarting. from cold boot, things were fine.
Now i'm running the RF bios, i have absolutly no problems at all, computer doesnt crash on boot and i can restart without having to hard crash the system.
But incase i misunderstood you, is it when you are installing xp that the crash occurs or after xp is installed and the computer restarts?
if it's during the install, is a crash or an error that xp cant find the correct driver when doing the initial install of files (after the HDD format).
thanks, i will give it a try when i get back home :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
it crashes after the full install not during, the first boot into windows or even if I try to enter safe mode.Quote:
Originally Posted by mazda_626
I have installed the raid drivers from the link posted above. I would assume they are the correct drivers.
I could try the ones posted on Asus site or the MF disk but thought the latest drivers would be the best route to take.
If you suspect something, use the ASUS drivers for safe compatable results. I only remember hearing of some driver compatability issues w/ certain newer Raptor, but old models worked fine.
Use the f6 install, and direct to floppy frive A w/ ASUS driver download or off CD/DVD, USB or internal (I don't think FDD emulated USB stick will work but if you do it let us know as this mobo can emulate USB as FDD so maybe XP can see it). DO NOT let XP use its included driver regardless of what is says.
Hi,
Someone can help me about DDR2 Controller REF Voltage & Channel A & B Volt?
are they working at all ?
I've tried to set it to -10mv but the DDR Voltage is the same that before. I'm running RAM that need only 1.8v I've set The RAM Voltage to 1.8 into the BIOS but Everest/asus probe II report 1.888V.
is there a way to lower a little bit the DDR2 real Voltage ?
thanks.
Thank you very much :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by chawks2
These boards overvolt by about 0.1v so getting 1.8v is proably not going to happen unfortunately for you.....but who in there right mind will run ram at their defaults - this is Xtreme Systems is it not.....Quote:
Originally Posted by mazzy
{not trying to have a go at you mazzy :up:]
I'm running a RAID-0 2xRaptor setup with XP 32bit. The F6 method worked just fine, although I did have one crash once at the first bootup. It was probably due to something else, it's been running flawless for the rest of the time for several months.
My first RAID attempt with this board didn't go that well but it turned out one of the two disks was writing corrupted data. The RAID bios detected that, I got 2 new raptor drives and it was all good to go.
Thanks for the input guys, I will give it another go today.
Quote:
Originally Posted by scottath
Yes, but more Volt = more speed isn't always true, my RAM have Micron D9HNL chip that look like don't like to be juiced to push, so I'd like to experiment down to 1.8v, DDR2 Controller REF Voltage look like a way to change the reference voltage with a offset, so maybe settitng it at -10,20,30 I can get lower DRAM voltage but look like it's not working or the sensor Voltage is placed before the actual offset is applied, so maybe someone on extreme mode have checked the real voltage supplied at the dram with a voltmeter playing with the BIOS option and can enlighten me.
If overclocking in RAID, do give attention to the SB overvolts as well as maybe the use of PCIE OC. For up to 480FSB I use 110MHz PCIE and SB @ 1.104, & SB 1.5 @ 1.58 (actual)
It would be nice to finally hear some good info on the propper use of DDR GTL_Ref. I went over 8 months w/ not really bothering w/ it since I too, couldn't really see a notable change. Anybody? As for the 1.8v vdimm, I wouldn't bother, 1.9v in the 1st slots (closer to CPU) will be more then fine w/ even the cheapest of RAM. Anyways, as far as I can remember, all the better RAM for us enthusiast have alwayz run at least 0.05-0.1v over to maintain stability of performance.
I use GTL_Ref +10mv if I recall ( I'm not at home right now) I found it help'd eliminate the "det dram" on the older bios.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
I never tried to compensate for the overvolt, by trying to undervolt it. + .8 ( my board) is very easy to compensate for.
As for my raid0 XP issue, I did another clean install using the original MF ( cd ) drivers and it booted without issue:up:
Very pleased and thanks for the advice
well, my maximus died last night... watched a little whiff of smoke come up from the mosfet area
:clap:
RMA TIME!
Sorry to hear! If you dont mind, can you share the details of the type of OC and components. I realize high end stuff can go out, I had it happen a few times, but I often find the average is usually due to BETA BIOS and or intence tweaking & or lack of good cooling, so just curious.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
believe it or not, it died @ stock settings. just one of those random things i guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
Anybody else have issues w/ J-micron PATA controller dropping out every now and then? 2 times and in each profile as in sig. Do any new drivers help? Should I at leasty see the controller as a SCSI device or only as an ATIPI/IDE or such? I'm only using it for scratch drives in EIDE/PATA mode (no RAID) but I do need them to stay active during work. The driver for ATA/ATAPI is the basic old 2002 Microsoft. Is there anything since?
Not good. Anywayz, do note this mobo overvolts so you may in fact be running a tad more of everything then you want or need. Although not enough to kill anything that I can see, but it does overvolt. The only danger is for your CPU n the area of PLL. This if in Auto, scales along w/ FSB so keep an eye on it. I found mine using 1.712 @ 485FSB but I only need 1.612.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
Most important, when reading most the forums, try to confirm if they are providing actual volts as reported by CMOS because too many still insist on only providing the CMOS setting wich we all know is different from board to board and various profiles and CPUs.
Good luck on your RMA.
Sorry to hear about your board.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
Did you flash back to MF bios?
If you still have a RF bios on the board let us know how the rma works out.
If you have a SE board what are they offering as a replacement?
I was offerd a Maximus Exteme ( altho at the time I think the ppl here did not believe me) in Novemeber when I thought a rma was a comming, Kup solved my issue so I did not need to rma the board.
it has the rampage bios still on it, but my guess is they will rma no problem. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
i dont have the se version. i will keep you guys updated on the rma.
I thought you said everything was stock. That totally changes the story. So many things could have palyed a role in that. You're talking about using a BIOS (a BETA at that) written for one mobo to another. They are "alike", not "exact" or we would have BETAs of same version updated simotainiously for all 3 mobos. Not arguing why we do it, just pointing it out. I just think the risk of failure is masked by the praise of benchmark sores.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
Anyways, do keeps us updated on the RAM then for sure, because I was under the impression ASUS considered this a void in Warrenty if they confirmed you modded it out of spec. We know they can tell, but the question is, will they bother to even look.
thats what im betting on due to the failure rate of these things. sorry, i meant to say, all volts were default. the motherboard simply died for no apparent reason. honestly if they dont rma, i dont really care. its worth a shot though. looking @ p45 for high fsb dual core overclocking anyways. got the x48 for crossfire.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
Had to RMA my MF SE about a month ago after half a year of abuse. :hammer: Anyway, it had the RF bios 0403 on it. Asus replaced it no problems. I got back a MF SE Rev. 102G. So seems they have stock now. Took about two weeks though.
In other news, I popped the IHS off my RF this afternoon. Had to use a razor blade from a shaving stick; bent one end and cut underneath the front end of the ihs, then blew hot air directly unto the heatsink while lifting the front end through the tiny hole with a mini screw driver. It popped after about 30 seconds. I'm watercooling cpu, nb, and sb on the same loop. My idle temp at 1.65v for the nb is 33c, everest stability load for 7 minutes was 35c for the nb. Insane! 2c difference between idle and load.
this is good news on both accounts! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
So is this.... :D 8x490 PL8, 4x2GB G.Skills DDR2 1000sQuote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
nice clock on that cpu :clap:
so did removing the ihs help your fsb? you gotta hit that magic 500!
This was actually prior to removing it. I've been trying that 500 but this chip sucks. Anyway the voltage on that OC was high since LLC was enabled. I was playing around with it enabled to see if infact it affected stability as some have stated in the RF thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
Removing chipset IHS certainly reduces some temps. It will only help FSB if max temp is holding you back at current cooling performance level.
NOTE: If removing to replace OEM sink, do keep in mind the removed material differences (w/ IHS no longer there) and carefull when setting the 4 screws to keep it level. I would seat the actual NB and check to see the angle of the SB now and adjust if need be. I did have to barely, gently bend the pipe section of NB to SB to make it sit flush.
Maximus is the new FSB King? http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...61#post3067261
Is there a "special procedure" to flash back to a Maximus Formula BIOS from a Rampage BIOS on an MF board? For example, I'm currently running RF0403 and want to flash back to MF1201. Thanks...
Same procedure you used to flash to rampage in the first place.Quote:
Originally Posted by NLight95
jsut do it the same way to go to rampage. I prefer 1201, myself.
Can you, or anybody confirm if v201 complies to ACPI S3 and S4 alike, but mainly S3 "Sleep"?Quote:
Originally Posted by cadaveca
I am on BETA v1004 and it is OK to a point but I am recently getting more random DET_RAM issues on old resumes from S4. S3 has never worked for me on any profile since released (1004).
What improvements does 1201 have over 1004? More spacifically on a 65nm dual core w/ 2x 1g RAM?
Guys, it's been awhile since the last time I went to this thread but anyway, I'm currently using 0907 and I recently have problem with the SCSI/RAID Host Controller, it seems I can't install the driver for this device and it keeps showing up everytime I boot into XP. Does the latest BIOS fix this problem and stable compare to others, what would be the best BIOS option now?
Why do you want to flash back? I can't imagine being able to get the same memory bandwidth out of the Maximus BIOS that I am currently getting with the Rampage one.....Quote:
Originally Posted by NLight95
I realize most RF hacks are for benching scores, but has, or is, aanybody actually using an RF hacked BIOS as a daily user in full or partial ACPI modes to know if S3 & S4 actually work.
Really peepz, what can it actually cost? 1 minute, 1 crash and reboot? Anybody hacking a BIOS or just testing for that max OC should is used to more then a few crashes and reboots by now.
Mine isn't majorly overclocked (as you can see) but I am using the RF BIOS and it's my main computer. I have ZERO issues with it. I'm in Linux though, so I don't use S3 or S4. Sorry :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
give me a few minutes,Nucking F., I'll check it out for ya. I disable stand-by sleep modes in bios, so will ahve to enable, blah, blah, running VIsta 64 BTW.
Interesting, I was wondering if anybody here OCd under Linux w/ this set up. How doe it perform, for daily stuff? are you using ICH9R in AHCI or RAID mode, so was it hard to locate the drivers to do a full install? I am curious, because I have Kubuntu x64 and was thinking of running a test bed to get to learn Linux as a 2nd OS.Quote:
Originally Posted by OVERK|LL
XP & VISTA are ACPI complient OS so you have to at the very least enable ACPI but after that, it doesn't matter about S1 or S3 not being set since Windowsa can override all that and still work. It is the BIOS at this point that must comply though. The only thing you can choose is if you want Vista to only enter S3 v/s S1 (Stand By/Sleep but fans on).Quote:
Originally Posted by cadaveca
I use S3 on RF 0308 and it works perfectly. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
My NB gets really hot and the system starts to shutter in games around 445 FSB with my E8400 just wondering if anyone knows how I can fix this issue???
I am using it in RAID mode, but with no RAID. It also functioned well under AHCI, though I think the RAID mode is actually slightly faster.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
This HDD with Gentoo on it is on it's 3rd different motherboard/CPU combo. I just make sure I compile support in the Kernel for all the extra stuff that is going to be on the new board before I do the switch and I have yet to have a problem. Unlike Windows, Linux doesn't have a hernia if you migrate hardware. It went from an 875 to a 945 to the X38 without issue.
Performance is stellar, FAR better than the P4 3.2 it replaced, but Linux's SMP support is spectacular so I kind of expected that.
I was having random lag issues with X, but that was related to an option in my xorg.conf file for the NVidia drivers and had nothing to do with the system. It has subsequently been rectified.
You should have no problems installing Kubuntu.
STill a bios issue, cannot get proper post after S3 sleep. Seems VGA post fails, board is awaiting result from gpu, gets none, and hangs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
Hi all,
what are your opinion on the latest bios version of the maximus formula.
they are:
1. 1102 2008/05/15 update
OS DOS / All OS
Description Maximus Formula 1102 Bios
Fixed it can not enter the setup of some PCI-Express SATAII RAID Card
or the
2. Beta Version 1201 2008/05/04 update
OS DOS / All OS
Description Maximus Formula 1201 Bios
Improve Memory compatibility
at the moment i use 1004 and it's stable on 3.6 with my Q6600 and my OCZ PLATINUM REV 2.
their is a better version their, that worth the update ?
1102 is the latest non-beta bios, 1201 is the latest bios and the latest beta bios.
There's a new stability test tool out, it is very very very efficient for quick stability testing; took me a few reboots to tune in my oc to a new level of stability. It's called System Stability Tester. Grab it here:
32bit exe
32bit zip
64bit exe
64bit zip
There are Linux and other OS variants too.
Edit: Oh, this is better than OCCT, for ram.
My final config for 4Gb:
http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/1303/pngab8.th.png
btw all
i hav issue bout this MB
this mb wont post when i use A-data 1200+ Vitesta Extreme Edition PC9600, icant oc it.....
something wrong with this memory?
Dang Facto, Is the temp on your MCH right? 68c. Isn't that a little high? Do you run those settings 24/7 or just benching?Quote:
Originally Posted by Factotum
True, It's hot. But MAX TJ=92c for X38Quote:
Originally Posted by By0T0xN
It's my 24/7 settings. Prime warms CPU and NB to maximum. In real tasks the temp less on 5-7c for CPU and 7-12c for NB.Quote:
Originally Posted by By0T0xN
I would recommend you get some decent cooling for your NB 68c:shocked: is way to high for 24/7 use.Quote:
Originally Posted by Factotum
I was also shocked to see 4x1GB at 1200MHz but I see your not running a blend test there:down:
My NB runs @ 53c w/ 1.61v under F@h. I have a shared fan on my ram and NB which helps with the higher volts on the NB. I might, if I ever have the time, try and redudce my NB voltage which I'm sure would help reduce temps. Hek, if I ever get the time I'd like to update the bios and try for a higher OC. I've only reached 3.4 under current settings without trying. Soon I'll give it a go and up the odds.
I live in Belarus. The closest Shop with watercooling systems in Germany :upset:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Can You write more :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
actually yes my ram runs 1200MHz blend test stable NOT small fft's, if your not testing your ram it means nothing. I can bench my ram at 1275MHz is it stable NO, but it will bench. I can clock my chip to 4700MHz but again its not stable.
And I was making a temp comment beacuse its way to high for 24/7 use, your board will burn out imo. if your happy cooking breakfast on your board go right ahead to each there own, I preffer to get my rig as cool as posible not to see how high I can get my temps b4 my board dies, I guess eveyone has a different approach to overclocking
You toss that ram in a prime blend test and I bet it fails in under 1 min, OCCT and I bet it fails in under 30 seconds.
How is that Q6700 working for you, I have one it is shipping now. I hope to have for the weekend.Quote:
Originally Posted by By0T0xN
What is the max you have had it?
I'm really hoping I can get a 4.0GHz 24/7 cpu with decent volts.
If I get a dog its no big deal cause my son needs a new pc:up:
I haven't seen too many Q6700s get to 4 GHz.
Mine did better than my previous Q6600 in that it needed 1.37v (or thereabouts, can't remember 100%) for 3.6GHz while my old Q6600 needed 1.45v
I found the 10 multi didn't really end up giving me any benefit. I suppose it all depends on your luck of the draw, Grnfinger.
Heh, In my screen prime blend test runing 50min and more :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Thanks for the info, I'll be satified with 3.8 I know 4.0 is a shot in the dark.Quote:
Originally Posted by zlojack
This is an older Q6700 not a recent batch, the VID is a nice 1.220 so with decent cooling I am crossing my fingers for 4.0GHz
I also have a 4GB G-Skill kit comming from newls1 so it will be interesting to see what it can do.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Factotum
Last time I checked prime blend test will put your ram usage to 100% NOT 49%
for 2 gb blend use 100% RAM - true, but for 4Gb blend use only 49% - check it :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Mine is L727B332 01/22/08 pack date VID 1.275 FYIQuote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Got it at Canada Computers.
Sounds like yours might do better:up:
Good luck with it and I hope to see you with 4GHz!
Maybe a 4GB 32bit OS thing with no 3GB switch maybe??Quote:
Last time I checked prime blend test will put your ram usage to 100% NOT 49%
EDIT:nevermind I guess he answered that question.
Still not fully utilizing all the RAM either way...
lol I shop at canada computers, very decent store.Quote:
Originally Posted by zlojack
Hmm looks like your VID is very close to mine, this is dissapointing.
@Factorum
I'm not trying to take away from your achivements, 4x1GB @ 1200MHz is rather impressive, I took me forever to get 2x1GB @1200MHz stable. I'm trying to state that if you test your ram at 100% I doubt its stable. I could be wrong and very well might be but at those timings and 4x1GB ????
Grnfinger
Select Test? - i show screen
Fаctotum - show OCCT for 4Gb@1200MHz PLS
im rather interested in seeing this as well...
now I test my config in OCCT 2.0.0.a - auto (mix 1hr) - OCCT use only 21% of RAM with work Opera and ICQ , it's bad test for stable. IMHO Prime blend is better for test RAM
OCCT go to finish :)
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/9382/pngli4.th.png
Memtest86+ 8 hours or more.
That's how I test my RAM for stability. Then I run Prime blend as well.
Help needed!
Ive been playing around with my system without getting it stable at 4.0
Everything is fine and dandy at 8x480, but at 8x500 I cant make it into XP.
My HW is as follows:
C2D E8400
Mushkin 4GB 2x2048 XP2-8500 5-5-5-15
Corsair 750W
Noctua NH-U12P 2x120mm
Maximus Formula bios 12.01
My BIOS is set like this:
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 500
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: AUTO
DRAM Command Rate : AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 4
Row Refresh Cycle Time :55
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO
Read to Write Delay (S/D) :AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
Ai Clock Twister : AUTO
Transaction Booster : ENABLE
CPU Voltage : 1,3250
CPU PLL Voltage : 1,52
North Bridge Voltage : 1,43
DRAM Voltage : 2,08
FSB Termination Voltage : 1,24
South Bridge Voltage : 1,05
Loadline Calibration : DISABLE
CPU GTL Reference : AUTO
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1,5
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : ENABLE
CPU Spread Spectrum : AUTO
PCIE Spread Spectrum : AUTO
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled
ArneAnd
test it:
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Auto
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.63
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
I found with 500 FSB and 4GB of Mushkin RAM I had to loosen timings quite a bit to get it to post. Try your RAM all on AUTO first and see if that gets you into Windows, then start bringing back the tighter timings.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ArneAnd
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 450
DRAM Frequency: 1066 (if you are using 1066 ram)
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto (unless there is something odd that requires it)
Row Refresh Cycle Time :Auto (again unless there is something odd that requires 55)
Transaction Booster : Auto
CPU Voltage : 1.3500V
North Bridge Voltage : 1.59V
DRAM Voltage : check make/model from homepage to determine required voltage
FSB Termination Voltage : Auto
South Bridge Voltage : Auto
FSB Termination Voltage : Auto (for now)
Loadline Calibration : Auto (for now)
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disable
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disable
If this becomes rock stable then you can start reducing voltage on your cpu, northbridge, etc. But one at a time. I have found that the n/s bridge need some level of active cooling in order to OC without issue. To make a long story short you need fans on them to keep them cool. I have been able to use 40mm fans for them (using wood 1 1/2" wood screws). You can use Antec's cool spot fans if it's easier for you. But the key here is to keep the n/s bridge chipsets as cool as possible. Preferable below 40C.