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10-06-2006, 11:11 AM
Emperium

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Originally Posted by HamidFULL

ok first tanx for tests I think I found your problem
you are 100% are behind memory for 2 reason :

1.any E6300 I seen is stable @ 390x6=2340MHz with stock or 1.3500v
We think your E6300 need 1.4500v @ 390x6 for being Stable ok?
if you set 1.45v then you cant boot or freeze then you are behind memory not E6300 or DQ6 F1-6!!

2.when Gigabyte 965 brand have memory issuse it cant boot or restart 3 times and then clear CMOS and it go to stock like your
be sure E6300 even with 1.1250v can boot with no problem then if you think E6300 cause faliure boot you are Flase!! your restasts are not for E6300
my E6300 can do 1.2750v @ 3.0GHz undervolt and Stable as Rock!!

you can test it!! set your system @ stock and only set Vcore to 1.12500v and try too boot! you can see cool boot but remember lower than 1.25500v is not recomended

finally your hated memory is problem it cant reach more than 378 test another DDR2-800 1.8v on stock timing @ FSB 400MHz and tell us report

it may help you for save money and dont pay for another modules! :
sometimes lower timing in high clock is solution look :
Patriot +SL DDR2-800 5-5-5-15 1.8v it cant do
840MHz 5-5-5-15 (1.8v 2.0v 2.4v!!)
860MHz 5-5-5-18 (1.8v 2.0v 2.4v!!)
860MHz 5-6-6-18 (1.8v 2.0v 2.4v!!)
and more but it can do :
840MHz 4-4-4-8 1.8v
860MHz 4-4-4-8 1.8v
.
.
982MHz 5-4-4-12 2.0v with no problem and rock stable!

Can you please check this screen, mem can handle 800 Mhz at a low voltage.

So I dont think its the memory.

http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?i...mhz195viz3.jpg
10-06-2006, 11:12 AM
Lestat

Quote:

Originally Posted by HamidFULL

ok first tanx for tests I think I found your problem
you are 100% are behind memory for 2 reason :

1.any E6300 I seen is stable @ 390x6=2340MHz with stock or 1.3500v
We think your E6300 need 1.4500v @ 390x6 for being Stable ok?
if you set 1.45v then you cant boot or freeze then you are behind memory not E6300 or DQ6 F1-6!!

2.when Gigabyte 965 brand have memory issuse it cant boot or restart 3 times and then clear CMOS and it go to stock like your
be sure E6300 even with 1.1250v can boot with no problem then if you think E6300 cause faliure boot you are Flase!! your restasts are not for E6300
my E6300 can do 1.2750v @ 3.0GHz undervolt and Stable as Rock!!

you can test it!! set your system @ stock and only set Vcore to 1.12500v and try too boot! you can see cool boot but remember lower than 1.25500v is not recomended

finally your hated memory is problem it cant reach more than 378 test another DDR2-800 1.8v on stock timing @ FSB 400MHz and tell us report

it may help you for save money and dont pay for another modules! :
sometimes lower timing in high clock is solution look :
Patriot +SL DDR2-800 5-5-5-15 1.8v it cant do
840MHz 5-5-5-15 (1.8v 2.0v 2.4v!!)
860MHz 5-5-5-18 (1.8v 2.0v 2.4v!!)
860MHz 5-6-6-18 (1.8v 2.0v 2.4v!!)
and more but it can do :
840MHz 4-4-4-8 1.8v
860MHz 4-4-4-8 1.8v
.
.
982MHz 5-4-4-12 2.0v with no problem and rock stable!

he already stated that the ram does 400+ on another board.

but i questioned the ram long ago when he first made a thread about the system.
wth is MDT ram anyways.. who makes it ?

and just cuz the ram claims to be this or that dont mean much. even the OCZ XTC 667 ram can BARELY run 800mhz so that doesnt necessarily mean you can do really high with yours.
and ram will always act differently from board to board. frankly i still say its your ram. and there is only one way to know for sure. try other ram.
10-06-2006, 11:17 AM
Emperium

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Originally Posted by Lestat

he already stated that the ram does 400+ on another board.

but i questioned the ram long ago when he first made a thread about the system.
wth is MDT ram anyways.. who makes it ?

and just cuz the ram claims to be this or that dont mean much. even the OCZ XTC 667 ram can BARELY run 800mhz so that doesnt necessarily mean you can do really high with yours.
and ram will always act differently from board to board. frankly i still say its your ram. and there is only one way to know for sure. try other ram.

http://www.mdt.de/eng/about_start.htm

http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?i...mhz195viz3.jpg

This is not on another board, its on the DQ6 :) .
10-06-2006, 11:20 AM
Richard Dower

Next big chanllange is to do a fresh install of Windows XP and see if the Plextor drive will install Windows without error + the RAID array setup.

Bios looks pretty much the same same before, save for the system voltage options being revised, the colors on grey/pink/flashing red are back once again under VDIMM....a new green colored string has been added.
10-06-2006, 12:02 PM
Emperium

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/6...z21vdq6ww5.jpg

Even stable at 429 Mhz, so I say my Motherboard sucks :) .
10-06-2006, 12:30 PM
HamidFULL

my result on F6b 3465MHz on 1.37500v look :
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...61#post1759961
10-06-2006, 12:50 PM
Emperium

Quote:

Originally Posted by HamidFULL

my result on F6b 3465MHz on 1.37500v look :
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...61#post1759961

Nice, but you got a C2 revision.

435 and still going.. so its not my mem/cpu what is it??

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/9511/43521vze9.jpg
10-06-2006, 12:55 PM
HamidFULL

Quote:

i still say its your ram. and there is only one way to know for sure. try other ram.

Agree

Quote:

Emperium
Even stable at 429 Mhz, so I say my Motherboard sucks

did you know some memory cant support 1:1 FSB? like my old Crucial Ballistix PC3200 that could run 280MHz on divider and only could run 254MHz on 1:1
but mabye bad DQ6 or E6300 and best way to solve your problem is test another hardware
10-06-2006, 01:01 PM
Lestat

Quote:

Originally Posted by HamidFULL

Agree

did you know some memory cant support 1:1 FSB? like my old Crucial Ballistix PC3200 that could run 280MHz on divider and only could run 254MHz on 1:1
but mabye bad DQ6 or E6300 and best way to solve your problem is test another hardware

i was just gunna say the same thing. it may not like 1:1 ratios.

usually though the chipset is the failure when a 1:1 ratio doesnt work. the chipset is flawed and cant handle the stress.

so go buy another board and stop wating your time man....
infact RMA the board. since you can prove the ram will handle 400+ and yet the FSB wont i would suggest calling gigabyte and explaining to them the issue... if they deny you tell them to bend over and let you screw them as hard as you just got screwed. if they do the rma then thank them kindly and send the board back to them.
10-06-2006, 01:28 PM
TheForce81

Emperium,

Why are you so certain that it isn't the limit of your CPU? And just one other question no one hase come with yet, could it be your power supply?

Groeten uit Alkmaar Dutchie :p:
10-06-2006, 01:48 PM
Richard Dower

Quote:

Originally Posted by HamidFULL

my result on F6b 3465MHz on 1.37500v look :
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...61#post1759961

Means NOTHING!...run 30 hours of Orthos dual prime stable and then get back to us.
10-06-2006, 01:54 PM
Richard Dower

Right, did a fresh install of Windows XP Pro SP2...went fine, zero errors, Plextor is detected in bios and can be set as first boot device etc.

In Device Manager the Plextor just gets listed under CD/DVD-ROM Drives...
I am gonna try one more thing in regards overclocking the CPU, i'm changing my graphics card to a Gigabyte 7600GS.

Maybe it's that, if not then screw it...i'll splash out on a quad core.
10-06-2006, 02:06 PM
Emperium

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheForce81

Emperium,

Why are you so certain that it isn't the limit of your CPU? And just one other question no one hase come with yet, could it be your power supply?

Groeten uit Alkmaar Dutchie :p:

Because it worked fine @409 FSB on my old DS4 at 1.4v I am sure its not the CPU :) . And I know 100% sure that he can take more then that.

Groetjes terug uit Breda :D .
10-06-2006, 02:39 PM
Richard Dower

I have mine at 420FSB with no MCH or FSB voltage mods:
10-06-2006, 02:44 PM
Richard Dower

Gigabyte - DAMN YOU!...da hell didn't you fix the SYS_FAN bug you muppets!
How long do i have to tolerate this tornado going on in my case!!
10-06-2006, 02:52 PM
Richard Dower

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Hmm, how much voltage do i need for this?, because Orthos fails with bios set to 1.4250V (1.4000V with VDroop)... :slapass:
10-06-2006, 03:51 PM
Emperium

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Dower

Hmm, how much voltage do i need for this?, because Orthos fails with bios set to 1.4250V (1.4000V with VDroop)... :slapass:

Can't you resize that picture? I say give it until he is stable:banana: .
10-06-2006, 04:51 PM
SnakeEyes

Awww crapola, no new DS3 BIOS??? I had my hopes up!!!!
Me -> :stick: <-DS3 BIOS Team.
10-06-2006, 06:59 PM
BiOvOrE

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Dower

I have mine at 420FSB with no MCH or FSB voltage mods:

Yeah, but it's at 7x multiplier on your E6600, which is useless.
10-06-2006, 07:28 PM
Richard Dower

Have you even properly tested that CPU with 3.7GHz?...have you ran 30+ hours of Orthos while running several other stress test programs at once?

And you're using water cooling + probably a crapload of voltage which will reduce the life of the CPU.
10-06-2006, 07:51 PM
BiOvOrE

Yep it's Orthos stable :) .

I can play games 24/7 at 3.8, but it's only 100% benchable at 3.7, hence the 3.7 in my sig. It's only at 1.525vcore with the F5d BIOS. But I could hit stable 3.4 with NO voltage adjustments to the CPU, Mobo or RAM in BIOS with stock cooling.

See http://forums.overclockers.com.au/sh...13&postcount=4

You're whining about your system fan, and SATA optical drives etc, but you're running your E6600 at 7x. As I've said above, if you were serious, you'd pull your system apart and test each component to see where the fault lies.
10-06-2006, 11:54 PM
DesertShooter

What the hell?

My temps dropped with 10c in TAT, with F6B
10-07-2006, 12:35 AM
HamidFULL

Quote:

Richard Dower
Hmm, how much voltage do i need for this?, because Orthos fails with bios set to 1.4250V (1.4000V with VDroop)...

Core 2 with 4MB cache have lower OC ability than 2MB but one time increase your Vcore to 1.4550v and test it and one time decrease your Vcore to 1.3850v and test it sometime higher vcore cuase lower stability
10-07-2006, 12:36 AM
HamidFULL

Quote:

Originally Posted by DesertShooter

What the hell?

My temps dropped with 10c in TAT, with F6B

Great! I'll test it but you test with coretemp and everest?
my coretemp dont show lower
10-07-2006, 12:41 AM
dualshock

Quote:

Originally Posted by DesertShooter

What the hell?

My temps dropped with 10c in TAT, with F6B

isn't that a good news? or bad?

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