The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

ASUS posted "new" bios 1102 on their web site and it seems that this is not a beta bios.
Only description is :Maximus Formula 1102 Bios Fixed it can not enter the setup of some PCI-Express SATAII RAID Card.

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Originally Posted by Dostoyevsky77

I have a weird situation: Recently, I added a non-SLI 9600GT to my system to run my secondary display. Last night, I took it out to compare benches. After I put it back in, BIOS gives me a "Keyboard/Interface Error: Press F1 to continue" error. If I press F1, everything is fine but it's weird: why is this? Has anyone seen this before?

I've tried these: resetting CMOS, removing the 9600GT, reseating all other components, removing all USB except the keyboard, and trying the keyboard in different USBs.

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This is still perplexing me. Any recommendations would be truly welcome. I turned off F1 for errors, so it's nothing more than an annoyance, but the error unsettles me slightly.

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Originally Posted by Dostoyevsky77

This is still perplexing me. Any recommendations would be truly welcome. I turned off F1 for errors, so it's nothing more than an annoyance, but the error unsettles me slightly.

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Have you tried a different bios ?

I had some USB overvolt issue with 401 once I flashed to 403 it was all gone.

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Originally Posted by Dostoyevsky77

This is still perplexing me. Any recommendations would be truly welcome. I turned off F1 for errors, so it's nothing more than an annoyance, but the error unsettles me slightly.

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Could be ich related; what's your pci-e frequency? You can play with that a bit.

Just popped into Windows to run 3DMark and get some info.

CPU-Z Stuff:
http://www.darkfibrecommunications.com/photos/cpuz.jpg
http://www.darkfibrecommunications.com/photos/cpuz2.jpg

Everest:
http://www.darkfibrecommunications.c...os/Everest.jpg

And she did 14,117 3Dmarks on 3DMark 06.


I know it's a MILD overclock, I'll be getting faster RAM at some point, and more of it.

hi i changed my e8500 cpu gtl reference to 0.67x, and now it boots only max 320 fsb before this i have 9.5 x 450 @4.3 vcore 1.32 with no problems. I have tryed 3 motherboards: Maximus formula, Maximus rampage and p5w dh deluxe, same problem with each one. LCD poster says det ram, I have tryed with 3 different sets of memory. i cant understand :\

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Originally Posted by GiN

hi i changed my e8500 cpu gtl reference to 0.67x, and now it boots only max 320 fsb before this i have 9.5 x 450 @4.3 vcore 1.32 with no problems. I have tryed 3 motherboards: Maximus formula, Maximus rampage and p5w dh deluxe, same problem with each one. LCD poster says det ram, I have tryed with 3 different sets of memory. i cant understand :\

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the det ram issue has to do with PL settings once you find the right setting the issue is gone.

Set dram static read control to auto
and set trans booster to auto, I bet it boots...
There is a chart to calculate the proper settings, dont have it handy atm for I'm installing a fresh OS but I'm sure someone can post it or a link to it

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Originally Posted by OVERK|LL

Just popped into Windows to run 3DMark and get some info.

CPU-Z Stuff:


Everest:


And she did 14,117 3Dmarks on 3DMark 06.


I know it's a MILD overclock, I'll be getting faster RAM at some point, and more of it.

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If you set your ram timing to 4-4-4-12 what is your bandwidth then? or can it run at 4-4-4-12?

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Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs

Is the RF hack adding any day to day benifits for the 45nm quads, more spacifically the Q9450 or Q9550? I seam to be at the 455FSB wall..

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My 9450 hit a wall @ 465. ATM, I do not have the settings or the batch. Will post when can.

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Originally Posted by Grnfinger

the det ram issue has to do with PL settings once you find the right setting the issue is gone.

Set dram static read control to auto
and set trans booster to auto, I bet it boots...
There is a chart to calculate the proper settings, dont have it handy atm for I'm installing a fresh OS but I'm sure someone can post it or a link to it



If you set your ram timing to 4-4-4-12 what is your bandwidth then? or can it run at 4-4-4-12?

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I haven't tried. Settings you see are SPD. Sticks are Crucial Ballistix. Perhaps I will try that later.

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Originally Posted by Grnfinger

I have never had an issue with S3, I set it to S3 Only in bios and has always worked for me for maximus or rampage bios. Flashing will take less than a min, it will take you longer to make the usb boot disk. Maybe try it out for a few hours and if you dont like it flash back. I just flashed back to MF yesterday and there was no need to re do my OS, everything played nicely.
And now that my self inflicted USB problem is gone I'm going to flash back to Rampage today

For 45nm c2d the claim is keep cpu volts below 1.45 and I think FSBT max was 1.40. I think cooling plays a large part so if your running cool enough then you should be safe. I was going to buy a Q9450 but the rumors around were very disturbing, so thats why I bought another ( better, lower vid ) 65nm quad. I like the wolfdales speed, the bandwidth is very impressive, but you cant match the power of a quad

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I may try it later today RF 403!What about max PLL on these 45nm quads? Is 1.632v too high

I think I may want a new 65nm Quad though. So what is the current best batch or rev to have? Are the current stock at local stores any good compard to our old GO early rev? I can keep 'em cool, but can they take the clock mHz?

BETA hacks? Are these BIOS rewritten spacifically for the mobos we used here, or can the actual RF download be used? If so then can we use the BETA v402 of the P5E3 Premium? Will it gain access to the multi CPU GTL control? If not, is somebody working on this for our mobos?

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Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs

I may try it later today RF 403!What about max PLL on these 45nm quads? Is 1.632v too high

I think I may want a new 65nm Quad though. So what is the current best batch or rev to have? Are the current stock at local stores any good compard to our old GO early rev? I can keep 'em cool, but can they take the clock mHz?

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I think PLL is 1.65-1.70 max but I could be wrong you may want to google that. I had the Intel paper but I just formatted and dont have everything handy atm, my NAS is still disconnected.

I just grabbed a quad batch# L737B021 with a VID of 1.22 and I'm very pleased it will hit 4.0 with little effort altho I run it at 3.825 for 24/7
I bought it from Zen and he bought it from ebay ( correct me if I'm wrong Zen ) Ebay would probably give you a better choice of Q6600's.

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Originally Posted by jonathankru

Hi Guys i have been really struggling to get my qx6850 stable @ 4Ghz.
I can get it to boot into Vista @ 4.0Ghz with just 1.488V but it is not stable.
I have tried setting the vcore right up to 1.55 and it still is unstable.

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Try to up the Vcore a bit more... also did you put TRFC in the bios to 55 or higher ?

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Originally Posted by OVERK|LL

I haven't tried. Settings you see are SPD. Sticks are Crucial Ballistix. Perhaps I will try that later.

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If they are single sided, 5-5-5-15-3-55-8-3 should get you 1100mhz+/-, 2.0v in bios.

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Originally Posted by cadaveca

If they are single sided, 5-5-5-15-3-55-8-3 should get you 1100mhz+/-, 2.0v in bios.

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Holy CRAP!!!! They are double-sided though.........

Then you might get 1200mhz...

I would have thought that 2v on the memory would be hard on it, no?

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Originally Posted by OVERK|LL

I would have thought that 2v on the memory would be hard on it, no?

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Pretty safe so far, tested for over 3 yrs regular used PC's. Even some of the cheaper of budget can do 2.0v 24/7 on air. Better DDR2 can do 2.4v comfortably 24/7 w/ GOOD air and fan if you got it. Relaxing that trfc seamed to allow mine to use less at higher MHz. I can do 1164 at trfc50 2 2.24v.

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Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs

Pretty safe so far, tested for over 3 yrs regular used PC's. Even some of the cheaper of budget can do 2.0v 24/7 on air. Better DDR2 can do 2.4v comfortably 24/7 w/ GOOD air and fan if you got it. Relaxing that trfc seamed to allow mine to use less at higher MHz. I can do 1164 at trfc50 2 2.24v.

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Well, have it running at 1066Mhz now, the next one up was a bizarre 1112Mhz, then 2xFSB after that which is 1333, and I doubt the RAM can do that.

No errors in Memtest, and my 3DMark score went from 14,117 to 14,260 with no other changes.

Everest:

Before:
http://www.darkfibrecommunications.c...os/Everest.jpg

After:
http://www.darkfibrecommunications.c...s/everest2.jpg

hey guys I'm having trouble running 450 FSB on my maximus formula, I've tried every voltage option available :(
that is with using a 6.5 multi and running the ram at 900MHz
I've tried using the Rampage 0308 BIOS and the Maximus 1201 BIOS
I'm running a Xeon X3360 (Q9550)

the system posts but I either freeze during the windows (xp) load screen or get a blue screen during it

any ideas?

Finally 10 hrs. Prime small FFT's stable @ 3.6GHz on air!!! Temps never went over 62c on cores, or 41c on N/B. Heres my settings, thanks for all the info I got from Xtremeforums and the people who helped with answers to my questions.


Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :9
FSB Frequency :400
FSB Strap to North Bridge :400 MHz
PCI-E Frequency:100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1066 MHz
DRAM Command Rate :2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency :5
RAS# to CAS# Delay :5
RAS# Precharge :5
RAS# ActivateTime :12
RAS# to RAS# Delay :4
Row Refresh Cycle Time :55
Write Recovery Time :5
Read to Precharge Time :Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) :9
Write to Read Delay (S) :5
Write to Read Delay (D) :5
Read to Read Delay (S) :4
Read to Read Delay (D) :6
Write to Write Delay (S) :4
Write to Write Delay (D) :6
Dram Static Read Control:Disabled
Ai Clock Twister :Auto
Transaction Booster :Disabled
Relax Level:1
CPU Voltage :1.36875
CPU PLL Voltage :1.52
North Bridge Voltage :1.39
DRAM Voltage :1.90
FSB Termination Voltage :1.34
South Bridge Voltage :1.05
Loadline Calibration :Auto
CPU GTL Reference :.063x
North Bridge GTL Reference :.067x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage :DDR2-Ref
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage :DDR2-Ref
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage :Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Auto
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Auto

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :9.0
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Enabled
Vanderpool Technology : Enabled
Execute Disable Bit : Enabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/4...ablejk6.th.jpg

Priming the Q9450? If prime or the PC just freezes, no shut down crash but locks up where I have to or get to reset, what is that usually the 1st signs of? I usually used to just get crach/restart or no crash or 1 or more cores error out but 1 or 2 keep going. Bumping the FSBT up a hair kept all cores good but PC fose after 10 minutes. Prime 95 v25.5 blend mores, full CPU stress is OK.

Testing 433x8 in 5:6 aI light, boost off=0 (reported PL8), vvore: 1.32v (again, not sure idf it's too high but temps are good), FSBT: 1.456v, PLL: 1.632v, CPU GTL Ref: Auto for now cause I havent found the butter zone yet.

@Ric2L

What is the CPU PPL voltage set to [as it's on auto according to your explanation]
Also - you've got a very good CPU then - mine needs around 1.47v for 3.6ghz

Hey scottath , my q6600 can prime at 3600 with 1.3925 in bios / 1.37 actual , but its still not a 4.1+ cpu .

:shrug:

Isn't your a crap clocker? - you seem to say that everywhere on OCAU, can you post all of your settings? [or pm me on OCAU]
Thanks
I managed a boot at 4.1ghz, but highest i've been able to run 3dmark was at 3.96 - got good video card scores, but horrid [considering clocks] for the CPU

Will do , and no this is another cpu , this one is only moderately crap ...

:up:

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Originally Posted by scottath

@Ric2L

What is the CPU PPL voltage set to [as it's on auto according to your explanation]
Also - you've got a very good CPU then - mine needs around 1.47v for 3.6ghz

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CPU PLL is at 1.52 setting (which reads1.616 in Bios under the power screen) auto setting gives me the exact same reading. the lowest I can set it to is 1.5 with my bios (V1004), seems like the Rampage bios has more voltage options?

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Originally Posted by Ric2L

seems like the Rampage bios has more voltage options?

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Same options i think - just much larger possible values

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Originally Posted by Grnfinger

I just grabbed a quad batch# L737B021 with a VID of 1.22 and I'm very pleased it will hit 4.0 with little effort altho I run it at 3.825 for 24/7
I bought it from Zen and he bought it from ebay ( correct me if I'm wrong Zen ) Ebay would probably give you a better choice of Q6600's.

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We just about have identical twins then... :up:

My Q6600 GO is L726B397, also with a 1.224 VID. I have Primed at 3.9GHz error free for 45 minutes. I haven't pushed it to 4.0 yet, but believe it would give it to me.

3.825GHz is where run mine for games. :cool:

Under Maximus BIOS 1004:
With a 425 FSB Frequency, 400 NB Strap, PL=9, DRAM Frequency= 850MHz, Booting reports 3.84GHz, but CPUZ reports 3.8252GHz.
My RAM is running at 5-5-5-15.

CPU voltage is set in the BIOS to 1.53125v, Everest reports 1.51v, CPUZ reports 1.512v.
My CPU PLL is set to AUTO in BIOS.
Is there a program that displayes PLL voltage? I would like to see what AUTO is selecting for me.

The L7 Q6600's are runners... :sonic:

The B indicates 'Bad Boy' ... :slapass: (Not too many people know that!) :p:

Sweet Chip Grnfinger!

Then why is my L737B a crudd-box ? Maybe its my nub-ish overclocking skills ...

:shrug:

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Originally Posted by talonman

PL=9

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What exactly is that ?

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Originally Posted by Talonman

We just about have identical twins then... :up:

My Q6600 GO is L726B397, also with a 1.224 VID. I have Primed at 3.9GHz error free for 45 minutes. I haven't pushed it to 4.0 yet, but believe it would give it to me.

3.825GHz is where run mine for games. :cool:

Under Maximus BIOS 1004:
With a 425 FSB Frequency, 400 NB Strap, PL=9, DRAM Frequency= 850MHz, Booting reports 3.84GHz, but CPUZ reports 3.8252GHz.
My RAM is running at 5-5-5-15.

CPU voltage is set in the BIOS to 1.53125v, Everest reports 1.51v, CPUZ reports 1.512v.
My CPU PLL is set to AUTO in BIOS.
Is there a program that displayes PLL voltage? I would like to see what AUTO is selecting for me.

The L7 Q6600's are runners... :sonic:

The B indicates 'Bad Boy' ... :slapass: (Not too many people know that!) :p:

Sweet Chip Grnfinger!

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Can you give us a rundown of all of your settings - i cannot get mine stable above 3.6ghz [even that is unstable]
I'm running 3.2ghz atm

Grnfinger, you also please

EDIT: i have tried Ric2L's settings also, and they didn't work for me

I have written down what model my chip is somewhere, but from memory it is a L737[B i think]

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Originally Posted by Talonman

We just about have identical twins then... :up:

My Q6600 GO is L726B397, also with a 1.224 VID. I have Primed at 3.9GHz error free for 45 minutes. I haven't pushed it to 4.0 yet, but believe it would give it to me.

3.825GHz is where run mine for games. :cool:

Under Maximus BIOS 1004:
With a 425 FSB Frequency, 400 NB Strap, PL=9, DRAM Frequency= 850MHz, Booting reports 3.84GHz, but CPUZ reports 3.8252GHz.
My RAM is running at 5-5-5-15.

CPU voltage is set in the BIOS to 1.53125v, Everest reports 1.51v, CPUZ reports 1.512v.
My CPU PLL is set to AUTO in BIOS.
Is there a program that displayes PLL voltage? I would like to see what AUTO is selecting for me.

The L7 Q6600's are runners... :sonic:

The B indicates 'Bad Boy' ... :slapass: (Not too many people know that!) :p:

Sweet Chip Grnfinger!

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You can see the AUTO value of CPU PLL in your bios under hardware monitor
I have been trying to get 475x8 running smooth but I dont think its a go, I only need 1.475 bios 1.46 actual to run 425x9 prime blend stable.

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Originally Posted by scottath

Can you give us a rundown of all of your settings - i cannot get mine stable above 3.6ghz [even that is unstable]
I'm running 3.2ghz atm

Grnfinger, you also please

EDIT: i have tried Ric2L's settings also, and they didn't work for me

I have written down what model my chip is somewhere, but from memory it is a L737[B i think]

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Here is a prime blend stable 3.6GHz setting, your ram wont be able to handle 1200 MHz so you will need to run 333 strap and maybe 1080 on the ram. or run 1:1 @900MHz 4-4-4-12

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1200
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 4
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 50
Write Recovery Time : 8
Read to Precharge Time : 4

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 9
Write to Read Delay (S) : 5
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.38
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

My rig wont run on those voltages , just about all have to be higher , and when ever I touch transaction booster it wont post , seems to work best for me on auto , same with static read control.

Scottath - check PM dude.

:up:

Potential n00b question here

Is anyone using the latest Matrix drivers from Intel??
RAID/AHCI Software - Intel® Matrix Storage Manager (5615KB) 7.8.0.1012 11/9/2007

I'm using the original shipping version atm 7.5.0.1017, wonder who if any were using the latest and if there is any benifit to upgrading, or should I not fix what is not broken??

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Originally Posted by Grnfinger

Potential n00b question here

Is anyone using the latest Matrix drivers from Intel??
RAID/AHCI Software - Intel® Matrix Storage Manager (5615KB) 7.8.0.1012 11/9/2007

I'm using the original shipping version atm 7.5.0.1017, wonder who if any were using the latest and if there is any benifit to upgrading, or should I not fix what is not broken??

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I'm using it, but no real difference.

Heres a 3.8GHz setting for you guys having trouble, its prime blend stable

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1133
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 30
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.46
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

Which bios does you guys prefer with a dualcore example E8400 ? Trying to get my new E8400 Q810A230 stable at 4ghz with 1.3v and right now i´m on 1.31v when i look at cpuz. 1.3250 set in bios but some volt drop. The cpu need less voltage when i picking out one graphiccard and don´t run crossfire.

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Originally Posted by aussie-revhead

What exactly is that? (PL=9)

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Under Advanced
And CPU Configuration:
CPU Ratio Setting : 9

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Originally Posted by scottath

Can you give us a rundown of all of your settings - i cannot get mine stable above 3.6ghz [even that is unstable]
I'm running 3.2ghz atm

Grnfinger, you also please

EDIT: i have tried Ric2L's settings also, and they didn't work for me

I have written down what model my chip is somewhere, but from memory it is a L737[B i think]

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Sure!

I am using the following BIOS settings, and only changing FSB Frequency, and the lowest possible voltage I can to Prime error free two hours. My system has a nasty habit of getting an error 1Hr 10min into prime, if the CPU is a wee bit low on voltage for stability. That is why I only record data after 2 hours of error free run time.

Here is my 1004 Bios settings, and were used for generating all chart data below.

Under Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : XXX (Select from listing below)
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-XXXMHz (Changes based on FSB selected)
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 50
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Auto

CPU Voltage : X.XXXXv (See listing)
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : 1.61v (BIOS) (Everest is reporting 1.65v's.)
DRAM Voltage : 1.96v (BIOS) (Everest is reporting 2.10v's.)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.48v (BIOS) (Everest is reporting 1.55v's.)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050v (BIOS) (Everest is reporting 1.09v's.)
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50v (BIOS) (Everest is reporting 1.57v's.)

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Under Advanced
And CPU Configuration:
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Enabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

Under Advanced
And USB Configuration :
USB Functions: Enabled
USB 2.0 Controller : Enabled
USB 2.0 Controller Mode: HiSpeed
BIOS EHCI Hand-off : Enabled
Port 64/60 Emulation : Disabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled

Note: The only thing OC'ed on my GX2 SSC is the fan! ;)
FSB -- DDR2 ----- BIOS ----- CPU-Z ------ BIOS ---- Everest - CPU-Z -- 3DMark06 - SM2.0 -- SM3.0 --- CPU ---- Vantage --- CPU -- Graphics
420 -- 840MHz -- 3.79GHz -- 3.7801GHz -- 1.51875v -- 1.50v -- 1.496v -- 19,296 -- 7,661 --- 9,062 --- 5,375 --- P10,553 -- 13,167 -- 9,898

421 -- 842MHz -- 3.80GHz -- 3.7895GHz -- 1.51875v -- 1.50v -- 1.496v -- 19,305 -- 7,647 --- 9,078 --- 5,385 --- P10,553 -- 13,164 -- 9,899

422 -- 844MHz -- 3.81GHz -- 3.7979GHz -- 1.51875v -- 1.50v -- 1.496v -- 19,364 -- 7,690 --- 9,113 --- 5,369 --- P10,583 -- 13,281 -- 9,912

423 -- 846MHz -- 3.82GHz -- 3.8074GHz -- 1.53125v -- 1.51v -- 1.512v -- 19,164 -- 7,550 --- 9,042 --- 5,358 --- P10,595 -- 13,441 -- 9,896

424 -- 848MHz -- 3.83GHz -- 3.8164GHz -- 1.53125v -- 1.51v -- 1.512v -- 19,226 -- 7,570 --- 9,047 --- 5,419 --- P10,574 -- 13,254 -- 9,906

425 -- 850MHz -- 3.84GHz -- 3.8252GHz -- 1.53125v -- 1.51v -- 1.512v -- 19,503 -- 7,766 --- 9,141 --- 5,428 --- P10,574 -- 13,262 -- 9,905

426 -- 852MHz -- 3.85GHz -- 3.8346GHz -- 1.53750v -- 1.53v -- 1.528v -- 19,499 -- 7,762 --- 9,123 --- 5,447 --- P10,564 -- 13,232 -- 9,899

427 -- 854MHz -- 3.86GHz -- 3.8430GHz -- 1.53750v -- 1.52v -- 1.520v -- 19,237 -- 7,598 --- 9,015 --- 5,385 --- P10,475 -- 13,515 -- 9,745

428 -- 856MHz -- 3.87GHz -- 3.8525GHz -- 1.53750v -- 1.52v -- 1.520v -- 19,592 -- 7,795 --- 9,185 --- 5,457 --- P10,453 -- 13,486 -- 9,724

Still working on it...
For each FSB test, I rebooted and waited for all disk activity to stop. I ran Vantage first, then 3DMark06 second. Each program only received 1 run, and data was recorded.

Chart data recorded:
FSB selected - What DDR2 Frequency will be required - How fast the BIOS reports when booting - How fast CPU-Z reports from Vista - Lowest voltage required to Prime 2hrs (BIOS setting) - Everest reported Core voltage - CPU-Z reported core voltage - 3DMark06 score using default settings - 3DMark Vantage using default settings.

Currently with just my CPU and NB in my loop, my max temp's don't cross 60C two hours into Prime! Usually around 55C most of the time on all 4 cores. It only spikes to about 59C for a few seconds, even when I'm hitting my chip with 1.5v's.

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Originally Posted by Grnfinger

You can see the AUTO value of CPU PLL in your bios under hardware monitor.

I only need 1.475 bios 1.46 actual to run 425x9 prime blend stable.

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Thanks for the info... :up:
I will say that BIOS 1004 takes a wee bit more core voltage than 907 did, for me to be able to Prime 3.81GHz error free.
With a 424 FSB my CPU voltage was 1.51250v (BIOS) under 907, and Primed four hours error free, -vs- 1.53125v (BIOS) under 1004, Primed two hours error free.
1004 requires 0.01875 more core voltage BIOS setting, with the FSB at 424 to Prime error free. I do wonder if I should go back to 907 from time to time. I wish they would release an 'official' newer Maximus BIOS, and I would jump on that one for sure...
NOTE: I did go to 4GB RAM and a GX2 when I flashed to 1004 from 907. Mabey that's in on the deal too? :shrug:

Priming it now :D

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...inger/40-2.jpg

4GHz! Yepp... She's a runner!

I see 1.552 Core voltage. How are your temps? :clap:

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Originally Posted by Talonman

4GHz! Yepp... She's a runner!

I see 1.552 Core voltage. How are your temps? :clap:

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Hottest core is 73c, not great but not horrid.
I have a Swiftech 220 rad to add to my loop once my new tubing comes in, that should sort out any temp issues, I thought buying a PA120.3 would keep the temps way down, guess not.
Should have bought a water keg:shakes:

Thanks for the bios templates guys, i'll try them tonight after school

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Originally Posted by Grnfinger

Hottest core is 73c, not great but not horrid.
I have a Swiftech 220 rad to add to my loop once my new tubing comes in, that should sort out any temp issues, I thought buying a PA120.3 would keep the temps way down, guess not.
Should have bought a water keg:shakes:

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im working on bringing the quad up to where i was before. last night i primed 3.93ghz @ 1.48 for a few hours (.02V more than maximus)

so far, ive been seeing, the maximus takes less volts and gets better bandwidth. but ive yet to tweak it out completely so the story may change in the next week or so when i clock it up to speed.

its very interesting to me that our cpu's scale almost identically.

are you on vista?

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Originally Posted by ZenEffect

im working on bringing the quad up to where i was before. last night i primed 3.93ghz @ 1.48 for a few hours (.02V more than maximus)

so far, ive been seeing, the maximus takes less volts and gets better bandwidth. but ive yet to tweak it out completely so the story may change in the next week or so when i clock it up to speed.

its very interesting to me that our cpu's scale almost identically.

are you on vista?

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Yes I am dumb enough to run Vista:shrug:
I am very pleased with this chip so far, its the best one I have had ( I've bought 4 of them ) It's a keeper for sure.
How did you make out on your chip? did it finally post or was it DOA?
I might sell the 8400, waiting on a QX deal if it goes through I will want to part out with the dual core.

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Originally Posted by Grnfinger

Yes I am dumb enough to run Vista:shrug:
I am very pleased with this chip so far, its the best one I have had ( I've bought 4 of them ) It's a keeper for sure.
How did you make out on your chip? did it finally post or was it DOA?
I might sell the 8400, waiting on a QX deal if it goes through I will want to part out with the dual core.

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cpu was doa. awaiting the rma still (newegg, went out today, they get it tomorrow so projected turn around time will be tuesday)

id part with the 8400 as well for a qx :)

if you HAVE to have dx10 *the only reason id ever go to vista* let me know, i can pm you my server 2008 cd key when i get home (100% genuine, not pirated).

my impressions of the dfi is this, the asus pwns it w/ the quad. dont know about dual... YET :p:.

1 last note. when i was using coollaboratories tim, my temps were no less than 7c lower than the arctic silver 5 im using now. just thought you should know.

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Originally Posted by Talonman

Under Advanced
And CPU Configuration:
CPU Ratio Setting : 9



Sure!

I am using the following BIOS settings, and only changing FSB Frequency, and the lowest possible voltage I can to Prime error free two hours. My system has a nasty habit of getting an error 1Hr 10min into prime, if the CPU is a wee bit low on voltage for stability. That is why I only record data after 2 hours of error free run time.

Here is my 1004 Bios settings, and were used for generating all chart data below.

Under Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : XXX (Select from listing below)
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-XXXMHz (Changes based on FSB selected)
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 50
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Auto

CPU Voltage : X.XXXXv (See listing)
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : 1.61v (BIOS) (Everest is reporting 1.65v's.)
DRAM Voltage : 1.96v (BIOS) (Everest is reporting 2.10v's.)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.48v (BIOS) (Everest is reporting 1.55v's.)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050v (BIOS) (Everest is reporting 1.09v's.)
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50v (BIOS) (Everest is reporting 1.57v's.)

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Under Advanced
And CPU Configuration:
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Enabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

Under Advanced
And USB Configuration :
USB Functions: Enabled
USB 2.0 Controller : Enabled
USB 2.0 Controller Mode: HiSpeed
BIOS EHCI Hand-off : Enabled
Port 64/60 Emulation : Disabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled

Note: The only thing OC'ed on my GX2 SSC is the fan! ;)
FSB -- DDR2 ----- BIOS ----- CPU-Z ------ BIOS ---- Everest - CPU-Z -- 3DMark06 - SM2.0 -- SM3.0 --- CPU ---- Vantage --- CPU -- Graphics
420 -- 840MHz -- 3.79GHz -- 3.7801GHz -- 1.51875v -- 1.50v -- 1.496v -- 19,296 -- 7,661 --- 9,062 --- 5,375 --- P10,553 -- 13,167 -- 9,898

421 -- 842MHz -- 3.80GHz -- 3.7895GHz -- 1.51875v -- 1.50v -- 1.496v -- 19,305 -- 7,647 --- 9,078 --- 5,385 --- P10,553 -- 13,164 -- 9,899

422 -- 844MHz -- 3.81GHz -- 3.7979GHz -- 1.51875v -- 1.50v -- 1.496v -- 19,364 -- 7,690 --- 9,113 --- 5,369 --- P10,583 -- 13,281 -- 9,912

423 -- 846MHz -- 3.82GHz -- 3.8074GHz -- 1.53125v -- 1.51v -- 1.512v -- 19,164 -- 7,550 --- 9,042 --- 5,358 --- P10,595 -- 13,441 -- 9,896

424 -- 848MHz -- 3.83GHz -- 3.8164GHz -- 1.53125v -- 1.51v -- 1.512v -- 19,226 -- 7,570 --- 9,047 --- 5,419 --- P10,574 -- 13,254 -- 9,906

425 -- 850MHz -- 3.84GHz -- 3.8252GHz -- 1.53125v -- 1.51v -- 1.512v -- 19,503 -- 7,766 --- 9,141 --- 5,428 --- P10,574 -- 13,262 -- 9,905

426 -- 852MHz -- 3.85GHz -- 3.8346GHz -- 1.53750v -- 1.53v -- 1.528v -- 19,499 -- 7,762 --- 9,123 --- 5,447 --- P10,564 -- 13,232 -- 9,899

427 -- 854MHz -- 3.86GHz -- 3.8430GHz -- 1.53750v -- 1.52v -- 1.520v -- 19,237 -- 7,598 --- 9,015 --- 5,385 --- P10,475 -- 13,515 -- 9,745

428 -- 856MHz -- 3.87GHz -- 3.8525GHz -- 1.53750v -- 1.52v -- 1.520v -- 19,592 -- 7,795 --- 9,185 --- 5,457 --- P10,453 -- 13,486 -- 9,724

Still working on it...
For each FSB test, I rebooted and waited for all disk activity to stop. I ran Vantage first, then 3DMark06 second. Each program only received 1 run, and data was recorded.

Chart data recorded:
FSB selected - What DDR2 Frequency will be required - How fast the BIOS reports when booting - How fast CPU-Z reports from Vista - Lowest voltage required to Prime 2hrs (BIOS setting) - Everest reported Core voltage - CPU-Z reported core voltage - 3DMark06 score using default settings - 3DMark Vantage using default settings.

Currently with just my CPU and NB in my loop, my max temp's don't cross 60C two hours into Prime! Usually around 55C most of the time on all 4 cores. It only spikes to about 59C for a few seconds, even when I'm hitting my chip with 1.5v's.



Thanks for the info... :up:
I will say that BIOS 1004 takes a wee bit more core voltage than 907 did, for me to be able to Prime 3.81GHz error free.
With a 424 FSB my CPU voltage was 1.51250v (BIOS) under 907, and Primed four hours error free, -vs- 1.53125v (BIOS) under 1004, Primed two hours error free.
1004 requires 0.01875 more core voltage BIOS setting, with the FSB at 424 to Prime error free. I do wonder if I should go back to 907 from time to time. I wish they would release an 'official' newer Maximus BIOS, and I would jump on that one for sure...
NOTE: I did go to 4GB RAM and a GX2 when I flashed to 1004 from 907. Mabey that's in on the deal too? :shrug:

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Very organized results Talonman:up: Well done sir!

Can anyone confirm the ECC option on this board for the RAM?

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Originally Posted by Speederlander

Can anyone confirm the ECC option on this board for the RAM?

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i believe its called "super memory profile" or something like that in bios. pretty much is useless though.

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Originally Posted by ZenEffect

i believe its called "super memory profile" or something like that in bios. pretty much is useless though.

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No, it would be called ECC in the bios. It's error correcting code and it's set for ECC RAM and it's not useless.

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Originally Posted by Speederlander

No, it would be called ECC in the bios. It's error correcting code and it's set for ECC RAM and it's not useless.

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my mistake, i was thinking the "enhanced memory profiles" EPP (long day at work)

i dont believe there is a bios switch for ecc, but then again, i also dont understand why a manufacturer wouldnt use it and would give the option to disable it.

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Originally Posted by newls1

Very organized results Talonman:up: Well done sir!

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Thanks! :cool::D

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Speederlander

No, it would be called ECC in the bios. It's error correcting code and it's set for ECC RAM and it's not useless.

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I think ECC RAM is supported by this board.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Zucker2k

I think ECC RAM is supported by this board.

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Can someone 100% confirm before I spend $250. :eek::D

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Originally Posted by Speederlander

Can someone 100% confirm before I spend $250. :eek::D

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http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?mo...11&l3=572&l4=0

says support :)

ecc, non ecc and unbuffered. really the best place to ask would be asus themselves... but good luck getting a timely answer.

*back to work on the ram, trying to get even close to the same bandwidth i had before*

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Originally Posted by Speederlander

Can someone 100% confirm before I spend $250. :eek::D

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Check the ram support:

http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?mo...11&l3=572&l4=0

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Originally Posted by Talonman

The L7 Q6600's are runners... :sonic:

The B indicates 'Bad Boy' ... :slapass: (Not too many people know that!) :p:

Sweet Chip Grnfinger!

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Are you speaking in slang as in Bad is "good" or is it realy bad as in no good? And the runner, is a "good" runner or one to "run from"? JUst wanna make sure.

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Originally Posted by Grnfinger

Potential n00b question here

Is anyone using the latest Matrix drivers from Intel??
RAID/AHCI Software - Intel® Matrix Storage Manager (5615KB) 7.8.0.1012 11/9/2007

I'm using the original shipping version atm 7.5.0.1017, wonder who if any were using the latest and if there is any benifit to upgrading, or should I not fix what is not broken??

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Yes, I am and have been since new, and so far so good, a bit more stable on overclocks.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Speederlander

Can anyone confirm the ECC option on this board for the RAM?

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YES, this mobo suports ECC but ECC RAM will not overclock like the ones most of us are using. Also, I was wondering, since Rampage and most X48 do not support, how does this effect the RF hack on MF? is ECC blanked out now?

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Originally Posted by Zucker2k

Check the ram support:

http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?mo...11&l3=572&l4=0

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beat you to it :p:

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs

YES, this mobo suports ECC but ECC RAM will not overclock like the ones most of us are using. Also, I was wondering, since Rampage and most X48 do not support, how does this effect the RF hack on MF? is ECC blanked out now?

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asus says they support ecc w/ the rampage. unless there is other published information saying otherwise?

http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?mo...11&l3=640&l4=0

*twice now!* :p::p:

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Originally Posted by ZenEffect

beat you to it :p:



asus says they support ecc w/ the rampage. unless there is other published information saying otherwise?

http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?mo...11&l3=640&l4=0

*twice now!* :p::p:

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I see the ECC support on the maxiumus but not the Rampage...

just bought the asus formula a low end cpu watercooling system- good and silent though and an E3110

im pretty stuck here at 4.1 ghz , i can go higher but cpu seems to require a lot of voltage, and my siberian tiger really cant keep up with more....i can do orthos with temps below 65 now....but somehow i think it might be some motherboard settings i miss..most of them are at auto still..the pll and stuff really confuses me a lot, RAM isnt an issue at the moment, if i can get 500 fsb i will be happy.....

im giving the cpu about 1.45v which i consider a bit too high for the freq....i had no problems reaching 430 but above that the instability kicked in... i have adjusted nb and sb voltage and ram voltage....but i hope some of u out there can help me with some settigns that might push the cpu/board the last 50 fsb....on the other side it might just be the cpu, that is unlucky....some bios settings with others with a E8400/E3110 or like that would be helpful ...and yes, i have problems with raid in win xp pro as well as some ppl have in vista.....

Anand says the Rampage is non-ECC but on various sites selling it they say it is ECC and the asus website doesn't mention either...blah

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Originally Posted by Speederlander

I see the ECC support on the maxiumus but not the Rampage...

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it says it right on the page. i linked

4 x DIMM, Max. 8 GB, DDR2 1200*/1066/800/667 ECC,Non-ECC,Un-buffered Memory

they definitely could have made it easier to see... or used proper punctuation. looks like ecc is part of 667. but given your information, i would call asus. $250 is too much money to spend for something that "might" work.

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Originally Posted by ZenEffect

it says it right on the page. i linked

4 x DIMM, Max. 8 GB, DDR2 1200*/1066/800/667 ECC,Non-ECC,Un-buffered Memory

they definitely could have made it easier to see... or used proper punctuation. looks like ecc is part of 667.

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Actually, I don't think the page fully loaded for me before. All those details were blank. Excellent, thx.

http://www.station-drivers.com/page/intel%20raid.htm

there is version 8.0.0.1039 which is whql but non-official.. been good so far in vista x64

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Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Potential n00b question here

Is anyone using the latest Matrix drivers from Intel??
RAID/AHCI Software - Intel® Matrix Storage Manager (5615KB) 7.8.0.1012 11/9/2007

I'm using the original shipping version atm 7.5.0.1017, wonder who if any were using the latest and if there is any benifit to upgrading, or should I not fix what is not broken??

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I have tried almost all the settings posted and still have a BSOD 0x00000124 when priming - prime doesnt fail - it just bluescreens
Has anyone got a solution to this error - or should i just do Another fresh load of windows? [i had this problem with my old board also]

Anyone has the DET RAM f****** problem ? :bsod:

With my old OCZ Reapers 9200 I had some problems with DET RAM but managed to get them working @ 1128MHz with 2.3v and a lot of vNB and VFSB :(

Now with my new Corsair Dominator 8500C5DF 2x2GB I can only boot without the DET RAM "lock" at 800MHz :(

With no CPU OC and @ 5-5-5-15 - 1066MHz - 2.1v that are the default values for this sticks my Rampage refuses to boot, displaying DET RAM on the LCD.

Used also tRFC=55, vNB=1.50, vFSB=1.40 and no luck.

I'm becoming very pissed off with this board.

I've come from a P5K-E that run's 100% stable my Q6600 G0 @ 3600MHz and 2x1GB OCZ Reaper 9200 @ 1128MHz with only the vCore and Vmem changed !

Now for me to boot with the Rampage I've got to give more vCore to get the 3600MHz and I get this DET RAM sh*t :mad:

I know that the Rampage has a lot off settings to tune .... I know all that, but even when I was with the Reaper's and all tuned up @ 1128MHz (ex: PL:6) I got less or equal Everest Memory Benchmarks than with the P5K-E !!!

I really don't think that the ROG boards deserves the money that ASUS sells them. :down:

For me 1066 on the mem should be a walk in the park in current times , but it seems that the actual x38/x48 boards are very picky with the mems.

Any sugestions for the DET RAM problem ?

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Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs

Are you speaking in slang as in Bad is "good" or is it realy bad as in no good? And the runner, is a "good" runner or one to "run from"? JUst wanna make sure.

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I was just jokeing that the L7 Q6600's seem to be the ones to have due to their ability to OC so well. Better than the L8's! ;)

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Originally Posted by jVIDIA

Anyone has the DET RAM f****** problem ? :bsod:

With my old OCZ Reapers 9200 I had some problems with DET RAM but managed to get them working @ 1128MHz with 2.3v and a lot of vNB and VFSB :(

Now with my new Corsair Dominator 8500C5DF 2x2GB I can only boot without the DET RAM "lock" at 800MHz :(

With no CPU OC and @ 5-5-5-15 - 1066MHz - 2.1v that are the default values for this sticks my Rampage refuses to boot, displaying DET RAM on the LCD.

Used also tRFC=55, vNB=1.50, vFSB=1.40 and no luck.

I'm becoming very pissed off with this board.

I've come from a P5K-E that run's 100% stable my Q6600 G0 @ 3600MHz and 2x1GB OCZ Reaper 9200 @ 1128MHz with only the vCore and Vmem changed !

Now for me to boot with the Rampage I've got to give more vCore to get the 3600MHz and I get this DET RAM sh*t :mad:

I know that the Rampage has a lot off settings to tune .... I know all that, but even when I was with the Reaper's and all tuned up @ 1128MHz (ex: PL:6) I got less or equal Everest Memory Benchmarks than with the P5K-E !!!

I really don't think that the ROG boards deserves the money that ASUS sells them. :down:

For me 1066 on the mem should be a walk in the park in current times , but it seems that the actual x38/x48 boards are very picky with the mems.

Any sugestions for the DET RAM problem ?

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Dial in ALL the RAM timings and disable DRAM Static read control and see if that helps. Perhaps bump the Vdimm a notch if you're not already running it high.

I'm usually all about cpu frequency but I'm very happy with this...
Next, I'll be playing with ram tweaks and see if I can maintain stability. NB is at 1.60v (everest), VFSB is 1.394v. I'll try to tweak these down a little bit.

Hi guys, I've finally got my tracers back from Crucial a few days ago.And I must say these feel and behave a lot better than my original red ones (these are double sided aswell). Anyway I got a 3.6 OC quite easy (stable and OCCT),I did manage to get up to 3.8 and 3.9, however it wasn't stable. Now I dont want to keep messing arround with it too much as this is my work machine aswell, and I dont wont to corrupt the OS. So I'm looking for your help to get me up to 3.8 or 3.9. My temps are 35c idle and 60-64 stress/load @ 3.6 and almost identical at 3.9. These are my settings.

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : 9
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge :400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-800
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : auto
Write Recovery Time : auto
Read to Precharge Time : auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : auto
DRAM Static Read Control: disabled
Ai Clock Twister : auto
Transaction Booster : disabled
Relax Level : 0
CPU Voltage : 1.44375
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.56
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.08
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.150
Loadline Calibration : enabled
CPU GTL Reference : .63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : .67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.55

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : disabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled

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Anyone has the DET RAM f****** problem ?

With my old OCZ Reapers 9200 I had some problems with DET RAM but managed to get them working @ 1128MHz with 2.3v and a lot of vNB and VFSB

Now with my new Corsair Dominator 8500C5DF 2x2GB I can only boot without the DET RAM "lock" at 800MHz

With no CPU OC and @ 5-5-5-15 - 1066MHz - 2.1v that are the default values for this sticks my Rampage refuses to boot, displaying DET RAM on the LCD.

Used also tRFC=55, vNB=1.50, vFSB=1.40 and no luck.

I'm becoming very pissed off with this board.

I've come from a P5K-E that run's 100% stable my Q6600 G0 @ 3600MHz and 2x1GB OCZ Reaper 9200 @ 1128MHz with only the vCore and Vmem changed !

Now for me to boot with the Rampage I've got to give more vCore to get the 3600MHz and I get this DET RAM sh*t

I know that the Rampage has a lot off settings to tune .... I know all that, but even when I was with the Reaper's and all tuned up @ 1128MHz (ex: PL:6) I got less or equal Everest Memory Benchmarks than with the P5K-E !!!

I really don't think that the ROG boards deserves the money that ASUS sells them.

For me 1066 on the mem should be a walk in the park in current times , but it seems that the actual x38/x48 boards are very picky with the mems.

Any sugestions for the DET RAM problem ?

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i flashed rampage bios 0401 and now i cant boot any oc even with old bios lcd poster says det ram if try oc. before this i get 450mhz x9.5 4.3ghz @1.32 vcore. i have tryed every thing gtl, voltages, ram settings, another memory sets and mother board etc etc no boot even little oc

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Originally Posted by masska

Hi guys, I've finally got my tracers back from Crucial a few days ago.And I must say these feel and behave a lot better than my original red ones (these are double sided aswell). Anyway I got a 3.6 OC quite easy (stable and OCCT),I did manage to get up to 3.8 and 3.9, however it wasn't stable. Now I dont want to keep messing arround with it too much as this is my work machine aswell, and I dont wont to corrupt the OS. So I'm looking for your help to get me up to 3.8 or 3.9. My temps are 35c idle and 60-64 stress/load @ 3.6 and almost identical at 3.9. These are my settings.

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Watch the timings on the 8gb of memory. You don't want it too tight with 8gb and a serious cpu OC.

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Originally Posted by bummerboy

http://www.station-drivers.com/page/intel%20raid.htm

there is version 8.0.0.1039 which is whql but non-official.. been good so far in vista x64

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Thanks for the link :up:

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Originally Posted by jVIDIA

Anyone has the DET RAM f****** problem ? :bsod:

With my old OCZ Reapers 9200 I had some problems with DET RAM but managed to get them working @ 1128MHz with 2.3v and a lot of vNB and VFSB :(

Now with my new Corsair Dominator 8500C5DF 2x2GB I can only boot without the DET RAM "lock" at 800MHz :(

With no CPU OC and @ 5-5-5-15 - 1066MHz - 2.1v that are the default values for this sticks my Rampage refuses to boot, displaying DET RAM on the LCD.

Used also tRFC=55, vNB=1.50, vFSB=1.40 and no luck.

I'm becoming very pissed off with this board.

I've come from a P5K-E that run's 100% stable my Q6600 G0 @ 3600MHz and 2x1GB OCZ Reaper 9200 @ 1128MHz with only the vCore and Vmem changed !

Now for me to boot with the Rampage I've got to give more vCore to get the 3600MHz and I get this DET RAM sh*t :mad:

I know that the Rampage has a lot off settings to tune .... I know all that, but even when I was with the Reaper's and all tuned up @ 1128MHz (ex: PL:6) I got less or equal Everest Memory Benchmarks than with the P5K-E !!!

I really don't think that the ROG boards deserves the money that ASUS sells them. :down:

For me 1066 on the mem should be a walk in the park in current times , but it seems that the actual x38/x48 boards are very picky with the mems.

Any sugestions for the DET RAM problem ?

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The Det Dram hang is a result of memory timing and wrong TRD/PL setting
for 1066 you will need a PL of 7 to boot, 6 is to strong of a setting, there is a table that can help when setting this

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...mory_table.png

Anandtech goes into it rather well and there is a blurb about it on OCZ

here are the links
OCZ TRD calculator ---> http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...ad.php?t=36361
Anandtech Article-----> http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3208&p=1

Once you understand this simple math your DET DRAM hang will be a thing of the past.

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Originally Posted by jVIDIA

Anyone has the DET RAM f****** problem ? :bsod:

With my old OCZ Reapers 9200 I had some problems with DET RAM but managed to get them working @ 1128MHz with 2.3v and a lot of vNB and VFSB :(

Now with my new Corsair Dominator 8500C5DF 2x2GB I can only boot without the DET RAM "lock" at 800MHz :(

With no CPU OC and @ 5-5-5-15 - 1066MHz - 2.1v that are the default values for this sticks my Rampage refuses to boot, displaying DET RAM on the LCD.

Used also tRFC=55, vNB=1.50, vFSB=1.40 and no luck.

I'm becoming very pissed off with this board.

I've come from a P5K-E that run's 100% stable my Q6600 G0 @ 3600MHz and 2x1GB OCZ Reaper 9200 @ 1128MHz with only the vCore and Vmem changed !

Now for me to boot with the Rampage I've got to give more vCore to get the 3600MHz and I get this DET RAM sh*t :mad:

I know that the Rampage has a lot off settings to tune .... I know all that, but even when I was with the Reaper's and all tuned up @ 1128MHz (ex: PL:6) I got less or equal Everest Memory Benchmarks than with the P5K-E !!!

I really don't think that the ROG boards deserves the money that ASUS sells them. :down:

For me 1066 on the mem should be a walk in the park in current times , but it seems that the actual x38/x48 boards are very picky with the mems.

Any sugestions for the DET RAM problem ?

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Are your sticks on the compat list? My Crucial Ballistix 667's are running at 1066 with nothing more than some mild suggested timing and voltage settings by another user on this forum a page back.

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Originally Posted by [G.N.U.]Fragman

just bought the asus formula a low end cpu watercooling system- good and silent though and an E3110

im pretty stuck here at 4.1 ghz , i can go higher but cpu seems to require a lot of voltage, and my siberian tiger really cant keep up with more....i can do orthos with temps below 65 now....but somehow i think it might be some motherboard settings i miss..most of them are at auto still..the pll and stuff really confuses me a lot, RAM isnt an issue at the moment, if i can get 500 fsb i will be happy.....

im giving the cpu about 1.45v which i consider a bit too high for the freq....i had no problems reaching 430 but above that the instability kicked in... i have adjusted nb and sb voltage and ram voltage....but i hope some of u out there can help me with some settigns that might push the cpu/board the last 50 fsb....on the other side it might just be the cpu, that is unlucky....some bios settings with others with a E8400/E3110 or like that would be helpful ...and yes, i have problems with raid in win xp pro as well as some ppl have in vista.....

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I have a E8400 4.4GHz setting that has very decent bandwidth, it might help you some....

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...table_4400.jpg

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 489
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1174
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 30
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.475
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

Hey grnfinger, here are my latest stable settings. (i'm the guy who couldn't get to 3.8 stable). these are the settings I'm using atm for 3.6 with rampage bios 0401 on a mf non-se -

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
-Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100

DRAM Frequency: 1066
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : stronger (don't remember exactly)
Transaction Booster : auto
-Relax Level 0

CPU Voltage : 1.381250
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.54
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 2.00
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.26
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Disabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

based on these settings, can you suggest what I might need to hit 3.8?

excuse me isn't CPU Voltage : 1.475 too much for a E8400?? Can I keep it for daily or what u suggest? now i'm at 480*8 at 1.3500V at 47°in full orthos (4hours), think I've to give more than 1.4Vcore for reaching 4Ghz, thanks

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excuse me isn't CPU Voltage : 1.475 too much for a E8400?? Can I keep it for daily or what u suggest? now i'm at 480*8 at 1.3500V at 47°in full orthos (4hours), think I've to give more than 1.4Vcore for reaching 4Ghz, thanks

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with the vdroop on this board 1.475 is about 1.455, Intel white paper states 1.45 max, so I would think its ok for 24/7 use, I have ran it for 3 months with now issues.
But this is Extreme Systems not mediocre systems:rofl:

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Originally Posted by MurderCityDevil

Hey grnfinger, here are my latest stable settings. (i'm the guy who couldn't get to 3.8 stable). these are the settings I'm using atm for 3.6 with rampage bios 0401 on a mf non-se -

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
-Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100

DRAM Frequency: 1133
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : stronger (don't remember exactly)
Transaction Booster : auto
-Relax Level 0

CPU Voltage : 1.45
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.54
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.00
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Disabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

based on these settings, can you suggest what I might need to hit 3.8?

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Suggestions are in bold

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Originally Posted by Grnfinger

I have a E8400 4.4GHz setting that has very decent bandwidth, it might help you some....

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...table_4400.jpg

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Nice, 3 Degrees outside.

Good results.:up:

So, still nobody playing with a Q9450 on the MAXIMUS yet? Or I guess I'll have to wait for somebody new to ask and read the results. Maybe a Q9550 w/ an 8.5x FID?

45nm FSB crawling is just that, crawling. I'm hoping to see better than what I've got, but I'm doubtful...X48 seems the ticket for 45nm.

Odd thing just happened to my system. Fired it up at 4AM today, read a few messages, and system started shutting down on it's own. It also tried to restart too. I have made no system changes in the last few days except the Vista update that came out yesterday I believe. My auto update feature grabbed it.

When my system tried to reboot it looked like it was working, but went into a endless rebooting loop.

After about 5 reboots I received the message the last attempt to reboot was unsuccessful and selected to boot in safe mode. Safe mode came up fine, and the system appeared to be willing to stay up.

I then rebooted again into Vista in normal mode, and things seem to be right back to normal...

So odd, but it dosen't give me a very good feeling, that I have for the first time seen my system get locked into an endless rebooting loop.

Any ideas what it could have been?

Think you answered it yaself... one of the reasons I just disable all that autoupdate crap... I still run al my Pc's on XP Pro(64) with SP2 no updates at all (not even IE7)

I have one simple question
Do I set at 0.63x or 0.67x for
CPU GTL Reference : ????

What is this setting for and what's the difference ?? Does it effect overclocking or do damaging to the cpu
I have E8400, thanks

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Originally Posted by Kyo`

Hello after a while :p:
I have some issues with my newly bought Maximus. For a start, it overvolts every voltage - except VCORE - by +0.05-0.1v. I set PLL on 1.5v, it's working on 1.6v. I set NB on 1.41, and in reality it's 1.46v, and so on. Is this normal?
Next thing is something that bothers me greatly. I own a pair of 1GB 1066 KingMax RAM sticks, which worked great on my old DS3R, that are supported officialy by the Maximus (at least that's what the fookin manual says). But no matter what settings I use, and I've tried really everything doing 2 weeks of tests, they don't want to work properly. When I set them on 900MHz (1:1 FSB ratio, 3600MHz Q6600) and start blending in Prime, I get errors after ~45 mins (just when the 896K test starts). When I set them on 1066MHz, I get errors after 1 min of blending - they don't even pass the first test! And I get instant freezes/restarts when playing games too.
At first I thought it's a RAM problem, so I installed another pair of KingMax's (yes, I love them), which are also mentioned in the officially supported list. This time it was a 800MHz pair, which worked great @ 960MHz on the DS3R. But that didn't solve the problem, even on those sticks I still get the blending errors as soon as the 896K test starts.
It's also worth mentioning that I pass the small FTT's test 5H+ with no errors, so the CPU works fine - it's purely a RAM situation here.
What the hell is the problem here, could it be a motherboard hardware problem? Is something wrong with the board and I should RMA it?
The issues started as soon as I got the board, on the 802 bios. Then I tried 2 other bios versions - 1004 and 1201, but that didn't change anything. Could flashing to Rampage Formula help?
When I said I tried every setting, I really mean it - various voltages and their combinations, straps, ratios, transaction boosters etc.
I need some advice badly, I'm desperate, sending another ASUS board to RMA is just too much :down:

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OK, my problem is over. I bought some OCZ Reaper 1066 sticks, and... they work just fine and stable on normal voltage and timings and a tad more mhz!
So the conclusion is: although the KingMax sticks are officialy supported by this board, in reality they're not! So as much as I respect these sticks for being cheap as hell and good, they're just not meant to be for this board - avoid at all cost. They're fine with Gigabyte thought ;)
Cheers.

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Originally Posted by Talonman

Odd thing just happened to my system. Fired it up at 4AM today, read a few messages, and system started shutting down on it's own. It also tried to restart too. I have made no system changes in the last few days except the Vista update that came out yesterday I believe. My auto update feature grabbed it.

When my system tried to reboot it looked like it was working, but went into a endless rebooting loop.

After about 5 reboots I received the message the last attempt to reboot was unsuccessful and selected to boot in safe mode. Safe mode came up fine, and the system appeared to be willing to stay up.

I then rebooted again into Vista in normal mode, and things seem to be right back to normal...

So odd, but it dosen't give me a very good feeling, that I have for the first time seen my system get locked into an endless rebooting loop.

Any ideas what it could have been?

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I'm running vista x64 SP1 and keeping up with the latest updates with no problem. It seems your system was unstable due to a not 100% stable OC. Before you conclude on it's the Vista x64 SP1 fault, make sure that you don't have any driver compatibility issues with any applications that you run. Run both OCCT/Prime to test any possible hardware failures.

So far the error has not come back...

I don't know that Vista had anything to do with it. I was just trying to think if any changes had been made to my system in the last week or so. The update was the only thing that came to mind. I am a Vista 64 fan, and think SP1 rules.

I will Prime a bit more, with the settings I currently am running (My 3.6GHz for the web), has been Primed for 4 hours + already.
I haven't figured out how to get Memtest to run on Vista 64 bit, that would be a good one to run too.

First time I have ever seen my reboot issue. :shrug:
I was impressed how orderly it shut down each time. No blue screen, no error message. Just like I had selected 'Restart' myself.
I wonder if my Power button was in a funky position...

I hope it was just a one time thing. :up:

I have my replacement (RMA) Raptor being delivered soon. I had one WD1500ADFD-0 150GB only live about 5 hours total. (Nice folks to deal with too!)
I am about to start from scratch, and dive into RAID 0 for the OS, and my favorite Games. I need to find a good program that would back my 2 disk RAID array up onto my Caviar 750GB.

Hello.
Can someone post the rampage 403 bios here? This: http://rapidshare.com/files/114895439/RF0403.zip
Rapidshare is being :banana::banana::banana::banana:in gay, can't download even tho I find the damn stupid cats :|

Just notices that the new maximus formula has FSB 1600Mhz while my old one only has FSB 1333Mhz , do you think the new 1600Mhz will perform better in fsb overclocking ? Planing to for either a new formula or a real x48 rampage :)

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Originally Posted by Kyo`

Hello.
Can someone post the rampage 403 bios here? This: http://rapidshare.com/files/114895439/RF0403.zip
Rapidshare is being :banana::banana::banana::banana:in gay, can't download even tho I find the damn stupid cats :|

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ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socke...mpage_Formula/

bookmark that for future use:D

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Originally Posted by Turbodream

Just notices that the new maximus formula has FSB 1600Mhz while my old one only has FSB 1333Mhz , do you think the new 1600Mhz will perform better in fsb overclocking ? Planing to for either a new formula or a real x48 rampage :)

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I wouldnt think too much different. The origional Maximus always did 1600~2000FSB out the box on first BIOS. It was CPU and dram tweaking that bottlenecked it. So if you're using a quad, not likely gonna see the FSB max of any of the current mobos. E6300 and E6850 users will see more of that then any of them.

However, it is showing that Quads can perform on lower FSB but tight NB timing, the trd "performance level".

My personal experience only really showed score increase, but not so much real worl gain over the traditional FSB OC, provided CPU can do it. Not to mention stability, mobo and chipset really need to be cranked up to match that PL tightening.
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OK, it would appear nobody here can confirm, so can anybody link to info on the conpatability of real RF BIOS downloads v/s the ones posted here as to if they are actually different? I mean can the real ASUS RF v0403 be downloaded and hacked flashed to the MF, or is it spacifically written (hacked) to do that?

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Originally Posted by Turbodream

Just notices that the new maximus formula has FSB 1600Mhz while my old one only has FSB 1333Mhz , do you think the new 1600Mhz will perform better in fsb overclocking ? Planing to for either a new formula or a real x48 rampage :)

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I wouldnt think too much different. The origional Maximus always did 1600~2000FSB out the box on first BIOS. It was CPU and dram tweaking that bottlenecked it. So if you're using a quad, not likely gonna see the FSB max of any of the current mobos. E6300 and E6850 users will see more of that then any of them.

However, it is showing that Quads can perform on lower FSB but tight NB timing, the trd "performance level".

My personal experience only really showed score increase, but not so much real worl gain over the traditional FSB OC, provided CPU can do it. Not to mention stability, mobo and chipset really need to be cranked up to match that PL tightening.
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OK, it would appear nobody here can confirm, so can anybody link to info on the conpatability of real RF BIOS downloads v/s the ones posted here as to if they are actually different? I mean can the real ASUS RF v0403 be downloaded and hacked flashed to the MF, or is it spacifically written (hacked) to do that?

Aslo, any word on if we can hack the BIOS ro jsut flash for new P5E3 Premium for use of multu CPU GTL_Ref on our MF?

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Originally Posted by Grnfinger

ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socke...mpage_Formula/

bookmark that for future use:D

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Yes, I know the ASUS site :) But is it really the same bios? The link on the 1st page is to a ~2mb zip file, while the one you provided is a ~1mb zip file.
OK nvm I have it now - rapidshare happy hours o/

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Originally Posted by icecpu

I have one simple question
Do I set at 0.63x or 0.67x for
CPU GTL Reference : ????

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CPU GTL for 65nm = .67x
CPU GTL for 45nm (E8400) = .63x

I think I know why I was rebooting. We just lost total power at the house for a few minutes. Turnes out the boy's were working on the power lines today near my house. I bet we weren't quite up to snuff on voltage this AM.

The wife knew about it, I didn't! :p:

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Originally Posted by Kyo`

Yes, I know the ASUS site :) But is it really the same bios? The link on the 1st page is to a ~2mb zip file, while the one you provided is a ~1mb zip file.
OK nvm I have it now - rapidshare happy hours o/

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exactly where do you think they come from... Santa Clause??

you ever hear about file compression?? thats why ppl zip files

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Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs

I wouldnt think too much different. The origional Maximus always did 1600~2000FSB out the box on first BIOS. It was CPU and dram tweaking that bottlenecked it. So if you're using a quad, not likely gonna see the FSB max of any of the current mobos. E6300 and E6850 users will see more of that then any of them.

However, it is showing that Quads can perform on lower FSB but tight NB timing, the trd "performance level".

My personal experience only really showed score increase, but not so much real worl gain over the traditional FSB OC, provided CPU can do it. Not to mention stability, mobo and chipset really need to be cranked up to match that PL tightening.
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OK, it would appear nobody here can confirm, so can anybody link to info on the conpatability of real RF BIOS downloads v/s the ones posted here as to if they are actually different? I mean can the real ASUS RF v0403 be downloaded and hacked flashed to the MF, or is it spacifically written (hacked) to do that?

Aslo, any word on if we can hack the BIOS ro jsut flash for new P5E3 Premium for use of multu CPU GTL_Ref on our MF?

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I believe it is the flags used with the engineering release (and the need to use the engineering release) of afudos that facilitates the conversion, not the actual BIOS bin files.

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Originally Posted by Grnfinger

exactly where do you think they come from... Santa Clause??

you ever hear about file compression?? thats why ppl zip files

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Yep I heard about it... just didn't expect some morons would actually set a 0% compression rate :p: Just had me thinking that maybe it's somekinda h4x0r bios somehow different from the official :rofl: Anyway everything is dandy now, rampage formula on :up:

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Originally Posted by Kyo`

Yep I heard about it... just didn't expect some morons would actually set a 0% compression rate :p: Just had me thinking that maybe it's somekinda h4x0r bios somehow different from the official :rofl: Anyway everything is dandy now, rampage formula on :up:

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That "moron" would be me. I set them to Storage as opposed to Compression to guarantee the integrity of the bios files. Also, the way I keep them hosted without being deleted is because of the file size and the Rapidshare FreeZone rules allowing me to keep them.

If you don't like the way I do it, go find the files by yourself.

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Originally Posted by kup

That "moron" would be me. I set them to Storage as opposed to Compression to guarantee the integrity of the bios files. Also, the way I keep them hosted without being deleted is because of the file size and the Rapidshare FreeZone rules allowing me to keep them.

If you don't like the way I do it, go find the files by yourself.

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I like the way you do it :rofl::ROTF::rofl:

Did you grab a DFI board yet, or still sitting on the fence?

I'm looking real hard at the LT X48 T2R

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Originally Posted by kup

That "moron" would be me. I set them to Storage as opposed to Compression to guarantee the integrity of the bios files. Also, the way I keep them hosted without being deleted is because of the file size and the Rapidshare FreeZone rules allowing me to keep them.

If you don't like the way I do it, go find the files by yourself.

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Whoops :D Well, no harm intented - really appreciate the work you put into the topic. The difference in filesize was just somewhat confusing. But honestly, rapidshare started to suck badly, who the hell invented those dog-cat security systems anyway... Perhaps I'll be able to find some host for the files - having some mirrors is always nice.

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Originally Posted by Grnfinger

I like the way you do it :rofl::ROTF::rofl:

Did you grab a DFI board yet, or still sitting on the fence?

I'm looking real hard at the LT X48 T2R

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Still on the Maximus Rampage. Running a silent rig atm, with C1E and EIST enabled. I'll get back to overclocking once I move (or at the very least, my home life improves).

I have however indulged in Crossfire now...2x x1650Pro 512MB...lol...my 3870 went bang so I need both x1650 cards to get CoD4 looking semi decent and playable! :rofl: