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05-24-2005, 12:02 PM
NeForce

I started doing some websearching to see what chips the XMS4000PT (ddr500) stick would have. The stick is fuct overall , IMO - it won't work way underclocked with the other 2 256 sticks and even under 200mhz it wouldn't run below CAS3. Anyways I read that the ddr500 stick usually had Hynix and looked abit further into the post and found that XMS3500 (and maybe 3200) used all sort of different chips , including Winbond BH-5. Curiousity got the best of me and I started peeling back the heatspreaders. Both 256 sticks are BH5 and the dd500 looks to be samsung. Finally getting somewhere now, running apparently stable at 2.4ghz ,(edit) 9x270, ram very underclocked (173mhz) 1.5,2,2,4,7
I will need to do the vRam mod soon
05-24-2005, 10:17 PM
G H Z

Found my problem :D

SATA ports 1 & 2 are bad bad mojo :slapass:
05-24-2005, 11:21 PM
Napoleonic

do clockgen not compatible with neo2 plat???
http://www.cpuid.org/clockgen.php

I don't see NF3 ultra / neo2plat listed there

:confused:

will it safe to use?
05-25-2005, 07:03 AM
Garrett

Quote:

Originally Posted by Napoleonic

do clockgen not compatible with neo2 plat???
http://www.cpuid.org/clockgen.php

I don't see NF3 ultra / neo2plat listed there

:confused:

will it safe to use?

I can use it, no problem, I'd be surprised if it doesn't work with your Neo2 ;)
05-25-2005, 07:04 AM
sideeffect

Quote:

Originally Posted by Napoleonic

do clockgen not compatible with neo2 plat???
http://www.cpuid.org/clockgen.php

I don't see NF3 ultra / neo2plat listed there

:confused:

will it safe to use?

yes its safe to use the nforce3 ultra is just a nforce3 250 on a 939 socket. So works just fine.
05-25-2005, 07:48 AM
G H Z

Quote:

Originally Posted by Napoleonic

do clockgen not compatible with neo2 plat???
http://www.cpuid.org/clockgen.php

I don't see NF3 ultra / neo2plat listed there

:confused:

will it safe to use?

Look down a little further and you will find this ;)

http://www.cpuid.org/cg.php?cgid=NVNF3
05-26-2005, 10:14 AM
Jonas

ocz booster works well on this mobo at 3.5~3.7?????? rock stable, with active cooling in mems
05-27-2005, 01:41 PM
Waffles

so yea.. i just got this mobo a few days ago, and i'm in the market for new ram.. what would you guys suggest? my budget is whatever i have to spend. i also plan on upgrading to either a 3700 or 4000 san diego soon

i was thinking maybe some crucial pc4000 or maybe some gskill le. :confused:
05-27-2005, 04:28 PM
harpyboy

guys guys... my first post at this lengthy thread..

one quick question... is there any BIOS mod that can unhide all the RAM timing ? My corsair doesn't POST when used with divider 133 or 166... due to the tighter trc trfc timing... i don't really have the cash now to get new RAMs.... and i find it a little hassle to use A64 tweaker all the time.......
05-27-2005, 10:56 PM
sideeffect

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waffles

so yea.. i just got this mobo a few days ago, and i'm in the market for new ram.. what would you guys suggest? my budget is whatever i have to spend. i also plan on upgrading to either a 3700 or 4000 san diego soon

i was thinking maybe some crucial pc4000 or maybe some gskill le. :confused:

Hi I use Crucial ballistix 4000 with this board and it does work well but i doupt its as good as the gskill. With the Crucial Ballisitix it will do 250 2.5-2-2-8 @ 2.85 volts and max of about 265 at lower timings.
05-28-2005, 07:25 AM
CD 1986

Quote:

Originally Posted by harpyboy

guys guys... my first post at this lengthy thread..

one quick question... is there any BIOS mod that can unhide all the RAM timing ? My corsair doesn't POST when used with divider 133 or 166... due to the tighter trc trfc timing... i don't really have the cash now to get new RAMs.... and i find it a little hassle to use A64 tweaker all the time.......

Unfortunately it doesn't seem possible to access all the RAM timings within the bios with this board. There must be a way to mod the bios to change the timings however. Ideally, it would be best to copy the timings for the 1:1 ratio for all the dividers so that they would all post...i wish i knew how to do this, but there must be a bios modder out there who can help! :stick:
05-28-2005, 08:05 AM
Waffles

Quote:

Originally Posted by sideeffect

Hi I use Crucial ballistix 4000 with this board and it does work well but i doupt its as good as the gskill. With the Crucial Ballisitix it will do 250 2.5-2-2-8 @ 2.85 volts and max of about 265 at lower timings.

uh.... 2.5-2-2-8 @ 250 is nice... very nice imo at least. i hope that's enough to get all i can out of a san diego :confused:
05-28-2005, 08:37 AM
sideeffect

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waffles

uh.... 2.5-2-2-8 @ 250 is nice... very nice imo at least. i hope that's enough to get all i can out of a san diego :confused:

Well it is enough to do 1:1 if you plan on using the san diego on air and aiming for 2750 mhz or so does 250 x 11 for me on air nicely. But im using a vapochill now and id like to go higher 1:1 with tight timings that why i wouldnt buy ballistix now.

Hope that makes sence, they are good ram modules just not the best
05-28-2005, 09:37 AM
CD 1986

The latest v1.8f bios is up on lejabeech....supposed to fix the temperature bug; it has on my system. :)

I was going to upload a modded version, but the file is too big (200kb is too small for a max upload size!!!). As well as the usual unhide features mod, i decided to change the default settings so that i wouldn't have to reset them all everytime i cleared the CMOS etc.. Works nicely for me; now i just press "optimised bios defaults" and my settings are just how i want them!

This is also the 1st bios to let my Patriot TCCD break 300mhz! Admittedly using 2T mode, but 1T will follow soon i hope. ;) I wish MSI would add all the memory timing options into the bios, so we could change them from there. A64tweaker is not ideal.
05-28-2005, 09:40 AM
Waffles

Quote:

Originally Posted by sideeffect

Well it is enough to do 1:1 if you plan on using the san diego on air and aiming for 2750 mhz or so does 250 x 11 for me on air nicely. But im using a vapochill now and id like to go higher 1:1 with tight timings that why i wouldnt buy ballistix now.

Hope that makes sence, they are good ram modules just not the best

i am not in a financial position to buy phase change, so air and water will be my thing. (i'm only 16) was kinda hopin for 2.8-3.0 tho :-/
05-28-2005, 06:19 PM
tAmp0i

Anyone with Venice/Sandy has problem working with bios 1.36b modded? Any symptom like unable to boot or so forth?
05-28-2005, 06:58 PM
Waffles

so in you guys' opinions, would the gskill le pc4400 or ocz pc5000 be better?
05-28-2005, 10:43 PM
sideeffect

Quote:

Originally Posted by tAmp0i

Anyone with Venice/Sandy has problem working with bios 1.36b modded? Any symptom like unable to boot or so forth?

This bios works with the san diego but It doesnt seem to perform as well as the 1.8 bios.
05-29-2005, 04:13 AM
BobTheDinosaur

Sata

i hear there some problems with the sata ports 1 and 2 on this board
i also had the problem where it would say missing operating system when i tried to boot
i didn't goto 3 and 4 tho,i used partition magic and made the logical drive on the first section of the disk ( i use 2 partitions) and the primary partition on the end section of the disk and it worked, does this maybe have something to do with that 1024 booot limit thing?
does enabling raid also solve it?
and is using slots1 or 2 going to degrade system performance or can i just leave it
thanks!
05-29-2005, 08:34 AM
-n7-

Bob, SATA ports 1 & 2 are not locked, meaning you will experience instability & data corruption if OCing.

Use the Silicon Image SATA ports (above the AGP slot).
05-29-2005, 09:37 AM
G H Z

You won't have a problem with ports 1 & 2 until your over 235mhz or there abouts.
05-29-2005, 11:01 AM
sideeffect

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waffles

so in you guys' opinions, would the gskill le pc4400 or ocz pc5000 be better?

Waffles there is a article here about the neo2 and high performance memory

http://www.rhcf.com/sisubb/ultimateb...pic/21/69.html

Hopefully it might help you.
05-29-2005, 05:58 PM
harpyboy

Quote:

Originally Posted by CD 1986

The latest v1.8f bios is up on lejabeech....supposed to fix the temperature bug; it has on my system. :)

I was going to upload a modded version, but the file is too big (200kb is too small for a max upload size!!!). As well as the usual unhide features mod, i decided to change the default settings so that i wouldn't have to reset them all everytime i cleared the CMOS etc.. Works nicely for me; now i just press "optimised bios defaults" and my settings are just how i want them!

This is also the 1st bios to let my Patriot TCCD break 300mhz! Admittedly using 2T mode, but 1T will follow soon i hope. ;) I wish MSI would add all the memory timing options into the bios, so we could change them from there. A64tweaker is not ideal.

How does 1.8F differ from the 1.8mod ? The readme file still says 4/12/2005... does anyone else flashed this BIOS ?
05-30-2005, 01:39 AM
BobTheDinosaur

bios versions?

hi, i got the default version of 1.8 for this mobo, and it doesn't have a mem divider!
where do i get the other versions from? (sorry i'm a noob :)

thanks!
05-30-2005, 02:16 AM
sideeffect

Quote:

Originally Posted by harpyboy

How does 1.8F differ from the 1.8mod ? The readme file still says 4/12/2005... does anyone else flashed this BIOS ?

The 1.8F is the official bios and is the same as the 1.8 version on msi website.

The 1.8mod was made just after but is basically the same with just the options showing so u dont have to unlock them with shift F2 ALT F3

They are working on the mod and beta bios at this website (English Translation)

http://216.239.39.104/translate_c?hl...lr%3D%26sa%3DG

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