Rampage Formula Bios 0403 - No Tested
Rampage Formula Bios 0403 - No Tested
Heh I not a salesman. Other cheap 2x2gb ddr1000 ram are the G.Skill F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ which usually can do less than 1050-1066 mhz.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Coolest
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...163668&page=22
The other one is OCZ Platinum XTC OCZ2P10004GK which I have no idea how it perform with this mobo. Just go to OCZ forum to find out or use the advance search function.
edit : Btw that Mushkin XP2 PC6400 4-4-4-12 has black or white model. Just pick the white one but I think it the same.
Hi guys, I have a question for my pc in sign, how use occt.
When occt is running while I use internet , I get BSOD.
I did many tests about this, but I can't use occt togheter internet connection.
I used occt "alone" and was ok even for 8 hours.
There are only bsod, no code errors.
I don't still understand the cause of this problem, or if it is a problem.
Because I don't know if it is normal use occt while other program running.
Cheers for the link. I'll add it to the first post now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Factotum
Anyone tested 0403 yet?
So far...Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/7...i85x485rt4.jpg
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/7...d3b2d94044.jpg
Did you have to change the tREF to 3120T or was it set like that in the bios? Reason why I ask is because bios 0401 relaxed this setting (you can't change it in the bios) and I want to make sure that Asus has corrected it. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Anuaja
WIth 0401 i could run my E8400 at 450x9 with 1.35, now with 0403 it wont boot windows. So no go for me......
I don't change anything in memset. Sorry my bad englishQuote:
Originally Posted by theonlybabyface
Memory bandwidth is the same for me on 401 or 403.Quote:
Originally Posted by theonlybabyface
I dont use memset but everest reports it as 3120
Thanks, the GSkill RAM is just $2 more than that Mushkin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparda
The OCZ is about $5 more expensive....
Ugh this is a tough choice, heh :D
I just wanna make sure I don't get screwed with some uncompatible RAM like I was the last time I bought RAM.
I think G-Skill or grab Corsair.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Coolest
I personally would avoid OCZ ram like the plague
Or if you can grab a kit of Mushkin Redlines I think you would be very sastified
See, when I ask, nobody answeres, But yes, thats exactly what I just asked a week back.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Coolest
What is or was your bad experience with OCZ? I'm curious because I have used them w/ everything and always had good results from everything to overvolting to great heat cooling on stock and better with add ons. Now I've only used the Platinums of 2x 1g and 2x 2g on DDR2, looking to try a DDR3 set.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
I too am curious why you avoid OCZ. My 1066 Reapers have outlived 4 sets of Ballistix. They clock well, take voltage well, and perform excellent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
http://www.mushkin.com/doc/products/...ail.asp?id=647 is what you mean?Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
That's the cheapest kit out of the lot.... ugh.
I've seen a slight increase in bandwidth over 0401 with 0403. I am as close to 0219 as I've gotten yet:
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/e...Capture-31.jpg
Yes, take the G.Skills. There are a lot of people here and at forumdeluxx.de using the G.Skills 4GB PC2-8000/-8500 on this board and I don`t know anybody having any problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Coolest
And you will find a lot of settings with this ram here ;)
The ram is ok I'm not saying it wont do what they advertise it to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
There rma policy tho is questionable at best. 7 months and still waiting for my return kit... this and this alone has soured me on OCZ ram... I would never buy from them again because of this. I could go into great detail but this is not the place for it...so that is the short version of my OCZ experience.
regardless of price the redlines are a very good deal for the money, they will hit 1100MHz with no effort but Corsair Dominators would be my first choice then gskill for sure then mushkinQuote:
Originally Posted by The Coolest
Dominators are out of my price range. So I guess G.Skills is it.
Thanks.
These seem to work well for me on the Maximus, and cheep too!
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231145
Same here, doing some more testing :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dostoyevsky77
I'm interested in a 2x 2g kit to hit 1153~1200MHz on 2.22v (@ 1153). Can I see some daily results of G-Skill PC2-8500's to over 1153 to 1200 compared to Crucilas, on same machine if possable? I know my Ballistix can do and hold 1280 for hrs cooled @ 2.34v wich gives me plenty of headroom at loewer 1200. So this is what I'm sort of looking for. I dont want RAM that is stretching for 1150MHz barely. For me , it's not so much the budget as it is more the quality of overclockability.
Hey I just noticed the northbridge of my maximus formula only has two screws in it diagonal from each other with two other empty sockets aren't there supposed to be four screws. It looks to me like they just forgot to install the other two at the factory. Is anyone elses north bridge installed like that.
mine has 4 screws... w/ springs and washers and stuff. from the factory.. no mod here.Quote:
Originally Posted by trt740
I never touched mine they just forgot the other two screws the ones in the board are installed Diagonal just like a push pin northbridge cooler would be but the other two holes are empty. WTF I never realized they shouldn't be that way until I look at a review and saw 4 screws. :shocked:Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
Thanks peeps.Quote:
Originally Posted by Talonman
I just ordered 2 of those :D
That's just a price I couldn't miss!!
Hey guys
So if i have a memory stick that won't post (get stuck at DET DRAM) on the same slot that all my ram is working on (all ram are of same make/type) on defaut settings... guess its a bad stick?
or should i risk it and try the newer bios
" Maximus Formula 1201 Bios
Improve Memory compatibility "
Other than that stick ... The rest Corsair 2x2 TWIN2X4096-6400C5DHX is working nicely :)
Thanks
its probably a bad stick.Quote:
Originally Posted by samtan
Quote:
Originally Posted by samtan
Like me and many other have mentioned before, the MF1201 or the RF0401 eliminated the DET RAM hang issue permanently regardless of OC stability.
RF0403 is availiable for download by the way, you can give that a try.
I've got my Rampage with the RF0401 and I get DET RAM hangs if I mess up bad with my OC bios settings ;)
Must try RF0403.
Any info about the changes on the RF0403.
I'm going now to use 4GB on my Rampage, as there are finally good 2x2GB kits.
From the following 2x2GB memory kits, what do you think will do a better OC in a Rampage :
- Corsair 2x2GB Dominator PC-8500
- GSkill 2x2GB PC-8500 PK ( 8 layers )
or the new
- OCZ 2x2GB PC-9200 Flex II
?
My target OC on the mem will be 1130MHz / 1200MHz Cas 5
I use OCZ 2x2GB PC-9200 Flex II with Maximus formula and have no problems at all.
Max speed i have tested around 1180.
But you can use them without watercooling
I would not get the Flex II until it is clearly verified they can boot on 1.8V on the memory picky Maximus/Rampage as my old 4x1GB Flex XLC PC9200 was haninging on DET DRAM on the Maximus with or wo Rampage BIOS and they required a manual setting of minimum 2.0V on Ram to even boot at DDR800.Quote:
Originally Posted by jVIDIA
They even hang on DET DRAM with anything but 400 memorystrap.
Only way to make them boot was buying a chep memstick and manualy put in 2.0Vdimm and save BIOS and shut down and then put in the Flex-memory.
That is anoying as hell and i am glad my DDR3 not is like that.
They boot fine with both of my boards...FWIWQuote:
Originally Posted by E.R
ok guys.. i have some new info for you. i was getting tired of everyone saying that crucial is not compatible with MF and decided to speak to crucial myself. i went online and had a chat with one of their agents who in turn checked with the tech dept. to make a long story short, according to crucial, the PC8500 kit is not compatible with the X38 mobo. however, this is only true if you run 4 pcs of the ram with the same specs on a X38 mobo and it would probably kill the ram. according to Crucial, if you run 2pcs however, there should be no problems.
if you insist on running 4 pcs of the ram on a X38 mobo, then you need to run it at lower speeds and or latencies and the ram could probably work without problems. only if you run at rated speeds there is a risk.
however, kudos to crucial that they r not shirking their responsibility to replace the modules which consumers have already bought albeit with something cheaper (they dont have a choice there) or you could keep the in store credit to get something else from them. they also pay for shipping.
if anyone has further doubts, please let me know.
Sigh... I was getting random reboots with 4X1Gb of Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500, so an ''agent'' online at Crucial told me they could exchange them for lower performing modules that are worth less... So I just lost money... :( They don't want to pay me the difference or give me any credits...
Stupid... That's what I like about the computer industry... Sigh...
He told me that ANY combinations (2 or 4 sticks of Ballistix PC2-8500) is INCOMPATIBLE with the Maximus Formula...
The last time I will ever buy any Crucial RAM... :(
Quote:
Originally Posted by Levesque
this is interesting news...
I am running replacement pc5300 from crucial, 8FE4's...running 5-5-5-15 1066mhz, no problem, 4 sticks.
But i noticed SPD is different than my pc8500 8FE5's...TREF and TRFC not good for these 8FEx's.
:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Levesque
Chris
Hi...
I currently have My q9450 @ 3.2 with the 1201 BIOS and i've had a BSOD a few times while browsing the net and i wasen't doing anything else. Do these settings look ok??...or do i need to disable or change anything?.
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/2773/img1184db5.jpg
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/8617/img1185rw6.jpg
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/9964/img1186rr6.jpg
I'm also running 4x1gigs of cellshock ram.
I've ran Prime95 small FFTs for over 8 hours and blend for about the same without any crashes or BSOD's and today i've had a couple of BSOD by just browsing the internet.
This is what the BSOD said...
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/7235/img1191jc2.jpg
Any help is appreciated, thanks.
MagicMan you might want to run Memtest86+ to see if you're getting memory errors. Sometimes they pop up in the strangest places.
Quote:
Originally Posted by cyrixMII300
Did I miss something?? I coverd all this about 150 posts ago:rolleyes:
Kudos to crucial?? for what taking a 100 bucks of your money and giving you 60 bucks worth of crap...WOO WHOO:rofl:
Demand they give you a 2x2GB kit of the new red stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Levesque
Red stuff? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Renegade5399
Do you have a model number? :D
New bios, out today!
ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socke...rmula-1102.zip
Added to first post.Quote:
Originally Posted by gonx_me
so 1102 is newer than 1201?Quote:
Originally Posted by gonx_me
What the heck, "new" bios with the # "1102" ?Quote:
Originally Posted by gonx_me
Followed by the previous beta MF1004 bios, MF1201 seems to be the most recent beta file by its #.
I assume that MF 1102 is the first official MF bios that's ever released in a long time?
I'll wait for AsusTek to upload both new RF/MF bioses with their logs.
hi...Quote:
Originally Posted by zlojack
I just ran memtest for more than 2 hours without any errors. I might run it for longer tomorrow, but i think my ram is fine.
I upped the volts a tad on the Vcore, FSB and NB. Hopefully that might sort it. It's very annoying when i run prime for over
8 hours without crashes or BSOD, but anything can happen i suppose.
BTW does my settings look ok? or do i need to change or disable anything?. I've disabled all the limiting features that i know off.
Thanks.
NB volts look way to low for 4GBs and a quad core imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by MagicMan
I would up the volts to maybe 1.49 and retest
you think your words are the ultimate truth? whats wrong with some additional information and double confirmation?Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
and yes kudos to crucial. in a business where there are so many vendors who shirk their responsibility crucial IMO are doing the right thing by offering the next best thing they have plus your exact change in balance. and i say again Kudos to crucial.
At least the date publish in the ftp, the 1102 is 10 days newer. If it is really newer or not, i can't tell you.Quote:
Originally Posted by JKad
Best regards,
Hi Guys i have been really struggling to get my qx6850 stable @ 4Ghz.
I can get it to boot into Vista @ 4.0Ghz with just 1.488V but it is not stable.
I have tried setting the vcore right up to 1.55 and it still is unstable.
About 1 sec into prime it will give me BSOD and restart. If you look at the attached images you will see most of my voltage settings from everest.
Cpu pll in bios:1.62
FSB termination in bios: 1.42
Can anyone see what i am doing wrong? My Specs are in my signature.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...<br /> <br />http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1210937688
Thanks
I think all new MF boards are inferior quality. Recently, I exchanged a newly-purchased board because it appeared to have a flaw where the VRM (mosfet) heatsinks near the rear I/O ports were pushed too close to the CPU. I had to bend the fins and the heat pipe just to mount my Tuniq. I sent it back so I could get one I could sell since I had defaced it a little (I bent it back as much as possible, but it still looked ganked). Anyway, the return board was exactly the same. Looking at the heatsinks and components on the new boards compared to my board from 2007, the newer one appears to have cheaper components. They are more shiny, but they look cheap and plasticky (like the HS/pipes). When I was running that new board (the second one, not the third one), the NB temperature was also about 5(c) hotter than my 2007 board.
All boards are 1.03G and all PCBs are printed in China.
Good thing my problem wasn't with my 2007 board, but unfortunately my PSU incident seems to have corrupted my memory (memtest returns some - but few - errors and Orthos doesn't like to run for more than a couple hours). I'm on my second RMA through NewEgg to get a batch of Ballistix that work as well as the ones that were bulletproof. I may have finally run out of luck running that RAM on this board. Maybe it was just a really good batch that I had...
Interesting! My PCB is printed in Taiwan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dostoyevsky77
Is this pretty universal? I'm running 4 x 1gb sticks of axeram 1200, in my maximus and my NB volts are around 1.45. I too have had a couple restarts (over a month or so) since installing 4gb's. I will give 1.49 a try though, thanks for the info!:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
On another note, am I not the only one becoming confused with the latest bios numbering for this board?
Erocker convert your maximus it will do alot higher fsb with the Rampage bios and runs alot better aswell. The whole Rampage is has a higher binned chipset is BS my MF converted to a Ramage matches it's fsb FSB , as a Rampages my board now does 570fsb . It is all just bios. They made a new and better bios and Flashed Maximus Formulas just as we are. I believe they are intentionally hold back the Maximus formula boards in the bios to sell Rampages. My Maximus formula before the flash would do 490FSB to 510Fsb. It now does 533fsb to 570fsb. I cannot believe a class action suit hasn't been filed against Asus yet or DFi for that matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by erocker
4x1GBs of ram will tax the NB alot harder than 2 sticks, if at 1.49 you still have the odd restart you may need to go to about 1.51 1.53 or so.Quote:
Originally Posted by erocker
Aslong as your NB temps stay respectable dont worry to much about going in the "yellow" voltage zone
It seems the bios's are getting out of order I'm not sure if we have a few inacurate posters or if Asus has been sniffing glue
Maybe someone could post a comparison on the 2 new bios 1201 / 1104 ??
Anybody notice if there are good and or better batches of the Q9450? I got my SLAWR 10 days ago batch # L803B524.
Recap, what are we finding is the fair to safe high end vcore on these and PLL? What are some user examples at 4GHz?
honestly i havent found any 4ghz 24/7's of this cpu. im assuming its a bit rare, and too much hassle for me to play the exchange game to get one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
Please, can someone tell me if the newer RF4xx bioses are proving to be a better BIOS then my current 0219RF bios? Thanks.
For me and most of others, it's better in terms of stability. The DET RAM hang issue is completely eliminated in the MF 1201 or RF 04xx bioses. If you have the symptom that I've described in the above, you should give RF 04xx a try.Quote:
Originally Posted by newls1
I do not have any issues with the DET hang issue (never had with my board) but I am going with the 403 RF bios as it says it fixes ram compatabilty, so I am hoping that maybe I can get a better OC with my 8GB G.Skill PC8500 ram:shrug:. I'm still using the 219bios, and that is the first release bios for the RF, so maybe this will improve apon things:up: ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by XtremeTiramisu
It all just marketing m8. Btw If I am not mistaken both company are in Taiwan so they does not bind to US law. It like RIAA vs Pirate Bay. If anybody in other country want to do something. All they just can do is to block , sabotage or boycott the product which doesnt going to happen to a good mobo.Quote:
Originally Posted by trt740
edit : it sucks for Torrent Spy to have base in US....lol
Q9450 Breakin in? I am getting ready to run some test on the new Q9450. So far it was an easy change over into MF BETA v1004. Started in auto vcore and ratio, everything left as was from my 480x8 profile excep RAM was tightened to DDR800 timings of 4-4-4-12 on the same 5:6 divider. I didn't get any DET_RAM issues eithers (Same Crucial Ballisitx PC2-8500's.
I wanna' work up to 480FSB again, so what is a likely needed vcore rang for that height? What other app then RightMark can read the 45nm Quads to display VID? Auto started as 333x8 at 1.190v and PLL of 1.616v What are you guys finding or hearing is a medium PLL to maintain higher FSB with 45nm quads? I was using 1.632 PLL for a year and a half now on my Q6600 but I now they needed it for 470+.
Some feedback would be cool, especially from fella Q9450 overclockiers.
Quote:
Originally Posted by gonx_me
I checked with a HEX editor,
On 1102 its "$ASUSAMI$.MAXIMUS.1102.04/02/2008-17:27:32.Bearlake.Formula.ASUS.rombuild414"
On 1201 its "$ASUSAMI$.MAXIMUS.1201.04/23/2008-21:08:07.Bearlake.Formula.ASUS.rombuild414"
So 1201 i definitly newer... they just uploaded 1102 late it seems!
PS: If you want to see for yourself, just open the bios with any hex editor and search text string "2008"
What are the benefits of using the rampage BIOS over the P5E?
And can you use any Rampage BIOS?
Just curious here. In BETA BIOS v1004 and Q9450 under Everest 4.50.13xx and core Temp, I get high looking temp reads from stock 333 of 1.90v to 1.290v @ 425x8 yet BIOS repots cores averaged to 29c stock and now 33c at 425FSB @ 1.29v. Yet Everest still shows 35c core 4 and 45c 1~3. and they hold through various FSB overclock tests. They do move if I load yet, mobo temp is cool and actual pipes at base barely warm up and everything is smooth. So is this a 45nm, Penrin or Yorkfield issue?
Anybody?
EDIT: O.K. It seams to hit the FSB wall just above 455FSB for me but I only gave it 1.48v max so far, till I learn more of the safe voltage ranges for these. Temp was only 38c (4 cores averaged in BIOS). Again, the reason I stress peepz reporting with used actual voltages, my FSBT when left set as previously to 1.40v to give me 1.472 actual for Q6600 became much less now and took setting of 1.46 to get 1.37v.
Guys , Im not happy with the clocks on my q6600 and I want to keep going with my Rampaged Formula , what cpu would you guy get for benching ? QX9650 would be the obvious best choice but way too dear for me , how well do these mobos clock 45nm quads ? Can I get one to 4GHz on water ?
Any help would be great.
:up:
I have a weird situation: Recently, I added a non-SLI 9600GT to my system to run my secondary display. Last night, I took it out to compare benches. After I put it back in, BIOS gives me a "Keyboard/IO Error: Press F1 to continue" error. If I press F1, everything is fine but it's weird: why is this? Has anyone seen this before?
I've tried these: resetting CMOS, removing the 9600GT, reseating all other components, removing all USB except the keyboard, and trying the keyboard in different USBs.
Probably not. 3.6-3-8 is much more realistic. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by aussie-revhead
I think my Maximus is on its way out......
When cold booting LCD poster sits at "USBFINAL" for a very very long time then when fianlly boots to vista USB printer is not working, USB card reader is not working.
Xbox 360 controller wont work and Guitar Hero controller is not working.
This could be my last Asus board for a long time.
reason im done with asus isQuote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
#1 never got a response ever from customer support
#2 3.3v kept dropping over time to 3.28 to 3.2 to 3.18... thats when i pulled the board.
#3 i feel asus is intentionally holding back features that could be implemented through bios and is on other boards.
:down:
other than that its been a great board.
another disturbing thing though... my dfi board had a sticker on it that said "made in china" :(
my e7200 i got yesterday would not post but q6600 would on dfi, e7200 would not post on either asus or dfi *mabye bios issue... mabye doa*
either way i gotta flash back to maximus, rma the board then sell it.
What features are you thinking are being held back?Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
fine gtl control is the main thing...Quote:
Originally Posted by OVERK|LL
I have had this Maximus since November 2k7, seems once you sort one bug out another comes along the way.
Just flashed the board back to MF bios 1201, WOW what a performance hit on the boot time, I'm calling Asus now to start the RMA process I have an SE so I will get a Maximus Extreme, looks like I get to go DDR3:up:
Still going to get the DFI once you post me some results ;)
Interesting, just did some reading up on it and it sounds like it could be extremely beneficial, so I see what you mean.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
Do you feel the flashing of the board to the RF had any effect on it's demise? I think it's a novel idea, but am sort of concerned about any detriments to the board's life expectancy.......Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Other than the chipset difference, are the RF and MF basically identical?
Out of curiosity what city are you in ?? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by OVERK|LL
PTBO :D You?Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Brockville, its between Ottawa and KingstonQuote:
Originally Posted by OVERK|LL
Yep, I know where Brockville is, I'm about two hours from Kingston, it's where the 115 ends.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Is the RF hack adding any day to day benifits for the 45nm quads, more spacifically the Q9450 or Q9550? I seam to be at the 455FSB wall, but only gave it 1.48v and 1.648v PLL. FSBT was now way off from what it was before. my last setting to equal 1.472 became 1.34v Is there still anybody with a simular 45nm quad or just ones that dont feel like responding to mine?
Just curious!
I dont have a 45nm quad but from what I hear none or very few like high fsb.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
This is why I bought another 65nm quad, I would rather have a little more heat for alot more oc. I honestly dont see the RF bios giving you any more headroom, it will give you better bandwidth tho. There has been talk of a FSB hole and if you can find it you should be able to get 3.8-4.0 but again its not every chip.
This might be of interest to you, its a rampage bios setting but it will work with little effort on a MAximus ( the bios are almost identical) http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=196
At 3.6GHz what are your temps like on the 45nm?
I'm running 450x8 right now and I can't boot 451 or anything over 450. I've put up all my voltages a little across the board and can't even get one more megahertz on it. Any thoughts? Is it just the wall on my board?
So what exactly are the benefits of the Rampage conversion? I hear increased memory bandwidth and greater tunability, are there any detriments? Negative affects? I remember reading somebody talking about temperature skew?
not just increased memory bandwidth... INSANE memory bandwidth. I dont think there were any negative effects what so ever, and the temperature skew was corrected in later bios... not that you should be reading the temp from any asus utility anyways :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by OVERK|LL
@ Grnfinger.
my first *absolute first* impression of the dfi is this. their website is slow as :banana::banana::banana::banana:, and doesnt contain any bios for my motherboard. it wouldnt post with the E7200, so logically thinking, the bios it shipped with does not support this cpu (that is within reason to me)
SWEET!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
OK, that sounds reasonable. So, 401 is a good choice then? My temps are read via the kernel and displayed via GKRELLM.
I'm with you. Let me know what you decide, because I'm ready to dump this board too. I'm thinking DFI X48.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
i dont know what you all are complaniing about i have the stuff in my sig and has been running solid for quite a long time. I am still on the 0907 board.
granted i do get the dredded "DET DRAM" error once in a while on boot but other than that,, i couldn't be happier.
thank jesus this board never cost me retail though cuz i would never pay this much for a board.
a final thought though,, i have yet, out of the many boards i hae had, seen a board with the ram overclocking abilities of my old faithful P5N-E SLI.. i have yet to have any baord run as high of mhz as that board did.
so much that i am tempest to sell this baord and get the 750i board...
Rampage conversion done, used the 403 BIOS. Just running revdep-rebuild on that box right now, had a few package issues related to a world update I did prior to reboot so I'm on my lappy right now. I have had ZERO problems with this board thus far, and am quite impressed with this CPU.
I've always wondered what the fuss was about the so-called "increased memory bandwidth" of the RF bioses over MF bioses. The little comparison I did with Grnfinger was a draw at best: postcount 2719Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
Grnfinger's response: postcount2838
My response: postcount 2846
Grnfinger's post: postcount 2857
My response: postcount 2863
My final post on the subject: postcount 2882 This actually favored the MF bios over the RF per the comparison with Grnfinger. Yes, the RF gives you more control over how to tweak certain settings, but the MF bios offer the same performance, if not more, if you know how to tweak it.
your fsb has a lot to do w/ your results. lower your fsb to 450 and compare results. perhaps my i should re-state what i said. it gives an insane bandwidth increase @ lower fsb.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
*edit*
im missing the crash free bios right about now... dfi bios is DEEP.
Zen, it's all in strap/trd manipulation. No advantage to the RF bios, except I repeat, better/direct control over these settings.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
the trd manipulation is what makes the rampage. otherwise you are right, there pretty much is no difference. in my case, the trd manipulation allowed me to go from pl8 to 6, which increased my bandwidth. i was unable to do this on mf. i will conceded to usage may vary.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
37~39c depending on vcore of up to 1.48v I will try again to see if I can get past that hole. I may have been using more vcore then needed. Everest and other OS based monitors read the temps different, much higher all across on cores. It is sticking around 55c since stock and on as high as 1.48 when idle but maxed to 75c on the highest and 69c on lowest in Prime95. No throttling even at said 75c and TR120 feels cool narely warm at base and tips. Believe me, the Q6600 @ 1.48v felt nice and hot even to the tips of heat pipes w/ pleny of warm air out the back. So this thing isnt running out of CPU cooler just yet. What other core temp monitoring can read the 45nm quads correctly or is it the BIOS v1004? Is it worth testing RF 401 or mentioned 403? If S3 will work, I'm all there. Just to note, S3 still doesnt work even by changeing to 45nm so it is my BIOS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
But how high is still safe for 45nm quads?
Have you tried realtemp ? For me it seems to read lower than coretemp , so I hope its more correct.
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Good deal, It worked, core Temp was reading 10c over same for Everest. I cant get it stable over 460 even upping FSBT to 1.504v and PLL to 1.648 and vcore to 1.45v NB as much as 1.6 (never had to use that high before on this mobo but it stayed rather cool surprisingly. 45nm has less stress on the chipset I guess. Even at that vcore it hasnt throttled yet (testing 1.45v @ 450FSB not more then 65c
In a nut shell I'm not liking the so little overclockability, even if general performance feels smoother then Q6600 at if the same FSV & FID levels. I may just go back to 65nm untill I see more improvements or hear more about X3350 to at least 480x8FSB as a 24/7 CPU.
Lower than Core Temp becouse Real Temp reads the Tj max temp 5 degrees below Core Temp. Take Q6600 G0 fore example, Core Temp reads its Tjmax = 100 and Real Temp reads its Tjmax at 95. Tjmax minus delta temp = core temp reads from the diodode. In this case, there is always an exact temp difference by 5 degree from each core.Quote:
Originally Posted by aussie-revhead
Thats fair , so which is accurate ?
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I was one of the first to flash to the RF bios, I have ran FSB@489 24/7 for months and I have never experienced ANY negative effects from the conversion. My USB controller issue was user error I changed NB/SB volts for a test and when I resumed my regular quad overclock I forgot to up my NB/SB volts :rolleyes: RF bios 403 is rather stable and seems to have the det dram issues solved.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
I have never had an issue with S3, I set it to S3 Only in bios and has always worked for me for maximus or rampage bios. Flashing will take less than a min, it will take you longer to make the usb boot disk. Maybe try it out for a few hours and if you dont like it flash back. I just flashed back to MF yesterday and there was no need to re do my OS, everything played nicely.
And now that my self inflicted USB problem is gone I'm going to flash back to Rampage today
For 45nm c2d the claim is keep cpu volts below 1.45 and I think FSBT max was 1.40. I think cooling plays a large part so if your running cool enough then you should be safe. I was going to buy a Q9450 but the rumors around were very disturbing, so thats why I bought another ( better, lower vid ) 65nm quad. I like the wolfdales speed, the bandwidth is very impressive, but you cant match the power of a quad