Just to confirm..... I have both the TMSP and TMII UTT (Both AA4T) gigs and neither have the BP PCB..... got them at Newegg.com in the states.Quote:
Originally Posted by KoNiaK
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Just to confirm..... I have both the TMSP and TMII UTT (Both AA4T) gigs and neither have the BP PCB..... got them at Newegg.com in the states.Quote:
Originally Posted by KoNiaK
So I guess you can also remove 'PCB BP' on twinmos SpeedPremium AA4T since I'm not the only one who have experience this.Quote:
Originally Posted by HousERaT
And why not distinguish new RevB and revC chips :confused:
Quote:
Originally Posted by KoNiaK
Then What is that : CH5 ,BH5, Utt(CH5), Utt(BH5) ??? :stick:
2*512Mo Twinmos Speed Premium :
Stable (25*memtest 5) 260mhz 3.3v 2-2-2-5
http://users.skynet.be/pt1t//utt260.PNG
Bravissimo Punisher, noi Italiani ce l'abbiamo lunghissimo :D :D :D
Great Job! :D
Grazie, hehehehe :D.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crimson_dAWN
Nice work !!! :toast:
Just try the CAS 3 boot and discover it by yourself (they are BH5 or UTT) ;).Quote:
Originally Posted by Pt1t
pc4800 ocz may alternatively be using Samsung "TCC5" IC's in at least the pc4800 el plats according to OCZ. Most likely very similar or same as tccd.
So Punisher!, what do you think :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by KoNiaK
Not convince ? you need photos ?
CH5 = revC dieQuote:
Originally Posted by Pt1t
BH5 = revB die
UTT CH5 = new revC die (comonly call UTT)
UTT BH5 = new revB die
Your screen is great, but I don't see the point to post it here :rolleyes:
There's other thread for that :D
PC3500 Level I (2-3-3) --chip--> Winbond CH-5
Is this correct? CH-5 on all Level one Mushkin PC3500
I have a gig of these but never new what chips they were due to the heat spredders, they would barely do 215mhz2-3-3-10 on my NF7 2.9V and no higher at any timmings. Now on my DFI board I did notice when I gave them 3.1V they went to 234fsb 2.5-3-3 but never pushed the voltage beyond that. If they are CH-5 how much voltage can they take and what speed is possible?
There is no need to distinguish the revision. CH5 are gone and BH5 too.Quote:
Originally Posted by KoNiaK
Now just New BH5 and New CH5 (UTT) with new dies (first B and second C) are being produced. So when we speak of UTT and New BH5 all people know what we are talking about.
If you had photos of your JEDEC PCB it would be better.
Punisher!> Saw some photos, but don't have any. Did you see that:
About the chip you're right, I guess people can make the difference, but it's very confusing :/Quote:
Originally Posted by HousERaT
HousERaT> What is 'TMII' ?
Nope.Quote:
Originally Posted by KoNiaK
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I want to know this too. Upgrading as soon as they come out:
Quote:
Originally Posted by alexnake
some XMS-PC3200LL Rev1.1/2.1 (2-2-2-6-1T) --chip--> Winbond BH-5
is rated 2-3-2-6-1T but it's winbond bh-5 ;)
If they-re CH-5 they i'll do better... (Or maybe not all CH-5 is that great) i have some CH-5 and it does 215Mhz 2-2-2-5 @ 2.7vdimm (Didn't try higher even) (They do 2-2-2-5 @ 200Mhz with default vdimm but i get some memtest errors...)Quote:
Originally Posted by Toro 45
Damn!! diamonds in the rough, last night I pulled out my new Twinmos chips and threw in the "old" Mushkin, set them to 200 3.1V. 2-2-2-8 and they passed memtest for the first time ever at those timimgs. 205,210,215, 220, 225, 230, 235passed and then failed at 240. Upped the voltage to 3.2V and 240fsb passed. I tried 3.3V with no improvement.
The major difference here is my PSU I was using a 400W Coolmax and bought a new Fortron530W on Monday, this was the first time I could get them over 215 at any timings. To think I was actually thinking about getting rid of them a while back, now there performing better than my Twinmos. Sure glad I stumbled across this thread, I'm tempted to try 3.4V, does CH-5 like the higher voltage? :toast:
Nice to have helped :P I myself am hoping that mine will do at least the same ;) (I'm waiting for my cpu to try it out :P )
G.Skill FF DDR600 isnt available yet that i have seen anywhere.
and also i have a few things to say about the OCZ PC3200 EL Plat Rev 2
you claim almost always 300+mhz.. your dreaming, your living a lie.
if you have 300+ mhz OCZ Plat rev 2 then your lucky
personally i think the ram is total crap ive had 2 kits of it and neither one would go over 290 2.5-4-4- or 2.5-3-3- 1T or 2T
2 different AMD64 systems and 2 different Intel systems.
in order to hit and go over 300mhz i had to use a 5:6 divider which is worthless..It proves nothing. and i think i had to use a 2T setting but i cant recall.
hell my OCZ EL Gold PC4000 Rev 2 did 320mhz @ 2.5-4-4-8 1T with a 9:10 divider. which is only 180mhz where as 5:6 is 166mhz
the Plat rev 2 wont do squat with a 9/10 divider.
i think you need to remove that plat rev 2 off the 300+ list and put it into a 275+ catagory. cuz after 275mhz even in single channel single stick it pukes out. although i got to 290 2.5-4-4-8 2T yes 2T well isnt that just special,, its meaningless to go 2T unless your just trying to puch your cpu ghz higher.
Just unlucky.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
http://www.anandtech.com/memory/show...px?i=2226&p=20
http://www.datorbutiken.com/se/defau...Id=256DDRAD450
what is that for ram?
isnt on adatas homepage either :confused:
OCZ Technology
EL DDR PC-3200(DDR400)
Dual Channel Gold
512MB×2
2-2-2-5 Timings at 2.8V
What this RAM chip bh-5 or UTT ? it has same Price with the VX series in japan :)
It should be bh5, never heard of any UTT doing 2-2-2 @2.8V ;)
the shop said this chip is BH5 to..acording to this picture http://ocworks.com/images/memory_ocz..._gold_chip.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Ashe
anyone has test this ram ?
Hey guys, thought I'd post some tweaks / corrections to the Corsair list. I'm one of the admins of the House of Help, which hosts the Official Corsair Support Forum, and we get asked which ICs are in which revision a lot. Unfortunately, the revision itself isn't enough to definitively state what IC is used, the lot # is needed as well.
CLOSED THREAD - Corsair Ram & Memory Chips Used - replaced by the next thread
IC Inquiry Thread
How To Read the Memory Label
If you would like to know which IC your memory has, just follow the instructions in the IC Inquiry Thread and post within it.
Anyway, I've been keeping a list of what ICs are used with what part #, version #, and lot # and updating it whenever an official answer is given out on that specific combo. Here are some of the tweaks/corrections/confirmations, along with how many sticks I've seen of that part # / revision # combo:
XMS-PC3200C2 Rev1.0 (2-3-3-6-1T) --chip--> Winbond CH-5 v1.0 Winbond -5 Rev C (1 stick)
XMS-PC3200C2 Rev1.1/2.1 (2-3-3-6-1T) --chip--> Winbond BH-6 v1.1 Winbond -6 Rev B (4 sticks)
XMS-PC3200C2 Rev1.2/2.2 (2-3-3-6-1T) --chip--> Winbond CH-6 v1.2 Winbond -5 Rev C (1 stick) v2.2 Winbond -6 Rev C (1 stick)
XMS-PC3200C2 Rev3.1 (2-3-3-6-1T) --chip--> Infineon Rev B -5 v3.1 Infineon -5 (2 sticks)
XMS-PC3200C2 Rev4.1 (2-3-3-6-1T) --chip--> Samsung TCCD v4.x Infineon Rev B -5 or Samsung -5 TCCX (TCC4 or TCC5 or TCCD) (9 sticks)
XMS-PC3200C2 Rev4.2 (2-3-3-6-1T) --chip--> Samsung TCCD & TCC5
XMS-PC3200C2 Rev5.1/6.1 (2-3-3-6-1T) --chip--> Mosel Vitelic 5ns v5.x Promos -5 Rev A or Mosel -5 Rev A (8 sticks)
Additions:
XMS-PC4000 Rev3.1 (3-4-4-8) --chip--> Samsung -5 TCCC (2 sticks)
As for all of the Brainpower markings on the Corsair list here:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ram Guy
XMS-PC3200C2 Rev4.1 (2-3-3-6-1T) --chip--> Samsung TCCD v4.x Samsung -5 TCCX (TCC4 or TCC5 or TCCD) (9 sticks)Quote:
Originally Posted by Wired-HoH
MMh... Samsung TCC4 doesn't hold CAS 2 @ 200 Mhz, tried by myself.
Anyway, thanks for the good job. I will add the addition.
Additions:
Added XMS PC4000 Rev. 3.1 and new OCZ PC3200 Gold with New BH5.
No problemo. However, all of those IC listings I posted were quoted from various posts from Ram Guy, Corsair's official Rep @ HoH. Search HoH for Key Word(s): tcc4 ; Posts Made By: RAM GUY. I'll email him to get a confirmation on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Punisher!
When you tested TCC4s, who made the stick, and what were the system specs?
They were Samsung retail PC3200 sticks (rated @ 3-3-3-8). CAS 2 didn't work at all, neither @ 166 Mhz (on A7N8X, the same that is in signature, working perfectly @ 2-2-2-3 with GeIL Ultra-X).Quote:
Originally Posted by Wired-HoH
The same for TCCC chips... CAS 2 didn't exist.
That doesn't prove anything overall specifically about the IC in general, because if they may have been tested @ CAS 3 but not CAS 2. They could just be using the lower yielding ICs for that particular model, ones that test fine @ 3-3-3-8, but not at any better timings.
Anyway, still waiting for a response from Ram Guy, I'll probably get one Monday or Tuesday when he gets back into the office.
:confused: so you don't wannt to change, can't understand why :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by Punisher!
If a may ask,why is this ram thats on the first page,is with this timing(2-3-3-7-1T).Code:XMS-PC3500C2 Rev1.1 (2-3-3-7-1T) --chip--> Winbond BH-5
I have those sticks and the do easy 2-2-2-5 1T from fsb200 to 250 with my a64 3200+(s754),in my sig the are also @ 2-2-2-5,so why 2-3-3-7 1T.
Because 2-3-3-7 are the official timings. There are 3500C2s that cannot do 2-2-2-5.Quote:
Originally Posted by RocKer
I am here :D.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wired-HoH
Yeah, timings between brackets are the official memory rated timings. It doesn't deal with "memory can hold 2-2-2-5".Quote:
Originally Posted by Wired-HoH
Ammmmm mybe i sell my OCZ VX 2x512 and buy 4x512 twinmos SP AA4T UTT that do you think all? should i do it?
or should i keep it and 1GB is good for now? :)
It depends on what you do with your PC :D.Quote:
Originally Posted by TommyW
I want to OC till it burn LOL
How do your VX perform? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by TommyW
Dont know cant test them yet waiting for mobo and cpu i few days ago i burn my axp 1800+ and mobo so i cant test them :p: :p: ohhh i burn it just for fun :) :)
List updated with new G.Skill with Winbond UTT on BP PCB 808!!!
G.Skill
G.SKILL PC3200(DDR400 1T) (2-2-2-5 1T), (F1-3200BWU2-512MBGH/1GBGH) --chip--> Winbond UTT ~ Brainpower PCB http://m4tribes.m4d.it/puni/new.gif
1GB Kit official results:
2-2-2-5 a 200 Mhz a ~2,5V
2-2-2-5 a 213 Mhz a ~2,6V (stock voltage)
2-2-2-5 a 250 Mhz a ~3,3V
2-2-2-5 a 260 Mhz a ~3,5V
SPi 1MB @ 260 Mhz:
http://www.ocxtreme.org/onepagebook/...H/ddr520pi.jpg
Bye! :D
Confirmed that the TCC4s will do CAS 2 just fine. Keep in mind the general bell curve of statistics. Everything can't do everything :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Punisher!
I bought two Mushkin blue 512 2-3-3-6 from Fry's on Friday. I get them in, throw them in the rig and I set everything to auto, try cranking up my fsb.. it pukes at 210x10 LDT3 1:1 1.425V | 3.2 vdimm. So I'm pissed, this sucks, my PQI mem allowed me 255 without a sneeze. Tonight I am messing around and while looking at the Everest numbers I notice hey, these two sticks have diff part numbers according to this, what gives? So I check CPUZ.. yep, diff parts again, how about Sandra.. yep. I shut it down, swap sticks, same deal reverse. I shut down again and run the one stick that is the oddball which by the way is rated 2-2-2-6.. same deal part number is diff from what is on the sticker and on the website. (8928 for those that are inquisitive)
I am bored, its midnight and I have to get up for work but what the hell.. I notch them down to 1:1 2-2-5-2 everything else on auto.. raise the vdimm to 3.2 (I have active cooling on my ram, they aren't even warm.) I raise the fsb to 210.. then 220, 230. My multi is at x10 and my LDT is at 4 and this thing is running like a champ on 230 and passes memtest 5&6 twice no errors. Last night I could not squeeze 210X10 LDT 3, right now as we speak I am at 240 and will leave it overnight on Prime95 to see if it melts. I have a small problem, this phantom chip is not listed on Mushkin's site so how do I get another one of these bad boys?
The 27c is courtesy of Shin Etsu thermal paste.. I replaced my AS5 with this stuff and its a full -3c.. right now it is idling at 24c~25c. yummy.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...eR6/230200.jpg
Where are the G-Skill's 4800FF for god's sake?
Can some one post a link to shop where I can buy a 1GB kit?
The rep said it will be shortly available after CeBIT. :confused:
are you sure the ocz 3200 rev 2 can do 300fsb and up???
this review has it only at 280
http://www.cluboverclocker.com/revie...el_rev2/p3.htm
It depends on the stick luck... http://www.anandtech.com/ has them @ 300 Mhz.Quote:
Originally Posted by calcal
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...231-002&depa=1
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduc...146-890&DEPA=1
which one would you go for?
got a link to where it hit 300fsb?
HTT is just the amd term for fsb right?????? Sorry AMD ELLITERATE : ( :(
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List updated with:
Buffalo PC3200 CL2 (2-2-2-4) --chip--> Samsung TCCD ~ Brainpower PCB
SimpleTech Nitro PC4000 (3-4-4-8) --chip--> Hynix D5
Kingmax Hardcore PC4000 TSOP (3-4-4-8-1T) --chip--> Hynix D5
Bye! :D
I would like to know too. Anybody have an ETA on these?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hombre
If it has been posted before I have not seem it :)
I have seen both OCZ PC3200 P. Rev. 2 (anandtech.com) and LC @ 300 FSB.Quote:
Originally Posted by calcal
how good is the hynix d5 chipp?
Generally capable of CAS 2,5-4-4-8 @ ~250 Mhz, so quite good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowman89
capable of 300 3-4-4-8 1T, or close?Quote:
Originally Posted by Punisher!
I am quite sure you will be able to go just around 280-285 Mhz fully stable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowman89
Hynix B on the other hand are capable even of 320-330 3-4-4-8 1T.
any1 tested the new PQI pc3200/4000 TCCD ....perhaps even the 2*1gb dual kit...
anyone know much about Samsung TCCB chips? I have a stick of 512 that says PC2100...yet when I did a search on google, a lot of hits came up with Mushkin PC3200 DDR-400 Cas 2-2-2-5.
I may put it in and see what it'll do if that's the case.
thx
Update:
Made some additions\corrections.
I bought Twinmos PC3200, model TMII 400 and are NOT winbond.
here is some info:
0508D
TMD7608F8E501
This only have one dot at bottom right. They perform only as high as 235 no matter what juice u give them. I tried from 2.8 to 3.5 and won'0t go any higher then 235. This new Twinmos perform a lot worse and not UTT chips