eva, tried TRC of 7 with these sticks?
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eva, tried TRC of 7 with these sticks?
yeah Trc tighter needs more vdimm... but i'm retesting the ram now on different cpu as i sold my 3500+ clawhammers and back on 3200+ winnie now
well, please post how it works out. It strikes me a bit odd that the "ch-5" can run 2-2-2-5-7-15-2-2-1-2, up to about 240 avg @ 3.2v, but these "bh-5" cannot... :stick: (refering to these problem sticks, not yours)
all depends on each AMD64 cpu's ondie memory controller :)
of course i can do Trc for simple superpi 1m and 3dmark benchies but i doubt it's 24/7 prime stable
Dammit, I keep getting errors with those settings...
You would expect it to run default speeds at those timings... that's lower bandwidth than leaving evreything at auto except 2-2-2-5... Especially at 2.9-3.0v...
I can't imagine me getting any lower bandwidth than I'm at already but it couldn't hurt trying...
If all else faile, I will shove my 3200+ Winnie in to see if the CPU is at fault... Mind you, this 3500+ did 2.4Ghz w/out much problems on a p.o.s K8N Neo2...
AAARRRGGHH!!!
Any other tips??
Maybe the board perhaps??
Minh
Really? I wonder why that is. These "ch-5" didn't really respond until i changed Trc to 7. :confused: I gotta get a set of these sticks and play a bit, ithink.Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
try the other cpu and seeQuote:
Originally Posted by Minnyboy
I don't get this at all...
One minute nothing works & then the next minute everything is fine...
I went into the bios, set it to 2.8v, set timings to 2-2-2-5, Bank Interleave disabled, R/W Queue Bypass = 8x, Bypass Max = 4x & ran Memtest & it was fine for 3 passes...
That is with more enhanced settings with the "AMD64" options in Memtest...
Set to 2-1-8-15.6us-7-2-2 & it passed... WTF?? This is at 2.8v.... Got 2466MB/s too...
Now trying the same but setting those same settings in the line above in the bios but with vdimm at 2.9v & 205HTT... Nearly 1 pass done...
Not giving up yet... Not with a RAM specialist like eva2000 helping me out :toast:
I'll probably dust off the K8N Neo2 (doing service as an internet rig/ waste of money huh??) & give it a go there as well... Seems to like my 2x256MB BH5 so I guess we'll see whether it likes 2x512MB or not...
Enough rambling, gotta get back to testing...
Cheers,
Minh
Glad to see your getting it to work. I can't wait for mine to turn up tomorrow. Then I can have a play. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Minnyboy
bump !!!
I just picked up a set of these(2x512mb) and I'm having a strange problem. First the good.
2.6V=205fsb 2-2-2-7 Sweet
2.7V=210fsb 2-2-2-7 both memtest clean
The Bad: 215fsb failed at 2.8 all the way up to 3.3V. they will not run over 215fsb on my setup, which is capable of 254fsb 3.4V TMSP
Right now I'm testing individually and first stick is screaming along at 3.0Volt 245fsb 2-2-2-8 no sweat. So the problem is running both sticks at the same time at anything over 215fsb, seems they don't like my nf3? I've tried swapping slots etc.. and have a nice fan blowing directly on them.
long thread... what memory oc best and stable?
I've had enough of these temporamental sticks...
I'm RMAing them because these ones have a mind of their own... Sometimes they run 200 @ 2-2-2-5 @ 2.8v no probs, the next time they error out badly...
Even when i relax the timings of everything else...
AAARRRGGGHHHH!!!!
Hey Minny, what BIOS are you using on this ram? I would just crank that voltage up. Diabling Bank Interleave is killing performance as well.
Have you tried 331-1 beta bios?
I ordered this ram but it wont be here until mon.
Tried all the bioses that have been suggested from different forum members including from the OCZ Reps themselves to no avail...
310 = no good. 331-1 = no good. 331-2 = no good. 331-3 = np good. 414-3 = np good. 414-1 = no good. 414-2 = no good..
That's 1 out of 4 setof of OCZ RAM that I've had that was good...
PC3700GOLD rev1 RMAed because it wouldn't run dividers...
VX4000GOLD RMAED because it wouldn't run at specs...
PC3200GOLD gonna be RMAed because of no running at specs...
The only good one was the PC3700GOLD rev2 that I got as a replacement for the PC3700GOLD rev1... Only problem was OCZ decided to change the specs & loosen the timings... But hey, at least they worked at specs...
sounds like a memory controller or mobo problem. i'm thinking the former
heck of a run of bad luck :(
Anyone running these on a nf3 ? Individually they rock at 255fsb 3.3V 2-2-2-7 but together they fail memtest anything over 210fsb.
I will do some more testing when I get a chance, but mine sounds like it MIGHT be similar to yours. Using 2x512mb 3200 Gold in DFI nF3 and 3700+, I have vmodded the 3.3 rail to vdimm, so my vdimm is always a little less than the actual 3.3 PSU rail. Using a little over 3.3v measured from dimm slot under load, they passed memtest fine so far at stock 200mhz 2-2-2-5. I tried 225mhz, and got hundreds of thousand of errors :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Toro 45
So I will try what you said, about testing the sticks individually. Hopefully they will do a little better....
yeah Minnyboy that does sound like bad luck, i'd think you might try a different cpu for a better mem controller as it can make a huge difference.. i sold all my 3500 CAA2C Clawhammer cpus and went back to my old 3200+ 0445 VPMW winnie my max mem clocks on Gskill PC4400LE ram dropped from 300-315mhz to 293-296mhz with my winnie on same DFI NF4 SLI-D. My 2x 256MB BH-5 dropped from max 281mhz 2-2-2-5/6 back to 273-275mhz 2-2-2-5/6 with winnie.
Venice has better memory controller then winnie ?
From what i have seen, yes, it appears so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ubermann
midroaster says they're about the same oc'ing wise just venice handles 4x double sided modules at DDR400 at 2T instead of DDR333 at 2T on winniesQuote:
Originally Posted by The Mofo
clawhammers seem to still have best mem controllers for oc'ing though
Does sound similar to my problem, when I try a fsb like 225 or 235 I dont just get a couple of hundred errors it's more like 30,000-40,000. Are you using the same 10/15/04 bios as me?Quote:
Originally Posted by twilius_basic
I thought BH-5 was discontinued at the end of 2003. Has that changed?Quote:
Originally Posted by STEvil
When has Winbond started to build these new chips marked as BH-5?
Thought they didn't test them anymore to 200MHz... or any other speed.
AFAIK Winbond BH-5 and this "new BH-5" aren't even built using the same process. Old Winbond BH-5 was 175nm, this "new BH-5" is 150nm. (correct if I'm wrong)
So, these chips are not BH-5. More like something between BH- and CH-dies.
I see many RAM mfgs advertising them as "BH-5".
(Where I live, advertising these chips to be BH-5 would technically be illegal)