AMD Shows Deneb (Phenom II) pictures of 6.2GHz CPUz etc

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Originally Posted by azraeel101

Posted in the AMD section by an XS member who was at the AMD event yesterday:

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Thanks... Those clear the doubts, skepticism and speculations.. :up:

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Originally Posted by Hornet331

so the 6ghz cpu was handpicked after all.

anyway 4ghz sounds good on stock air cooling, keep it coming. :up:

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3 tested out from 30, best one used. Well, one can call that hand picking, nothing compared to Intel, though. :)

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Originally Posted by Calmatory

3 tested out from 30, best one used. Well, one can call that hand picking, nothing compared to Intel, though. :)

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I know overclockers who test more samples to find the golden one :D

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Originally Posted by Calmatory

3 tested out from 30, best one used. Well, one can call that hand picking, nothing compared to Intel, though. :)

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3 out of 30... To be honest I just cant name that handpicked:rolleyes:

Anyway, My ETA got extended!:( To 19-12-08:p::up::shocked:

GEIV NOA!

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Originally Posted by Rammsteiner

3 out of 30... To be honest I just cant name that handpicked:rolleyes:

Anyway, My ETA got extended!:( To 19-12-08:p::up::shocked:

GEIV NOA!

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19-12 is a good day, my birthday :D

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Originally Posted by bldegle2

This time the jump that AMD is making is not small, you will be impressed.....the LN2 Phenom was a semi cherry pick, they tested only three processors from a 30 unit batch, took the best one, the other two only did 5.5 for a stable bench run, uh, I'll take one...............

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Originally Posted by Hornet331

so the 6ghz cpu was handpicked after all.

anyway 4ghz sounds good on stock air cooling, keep it coming. :up:

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Err 3 out fo 3 units tested benched to 5.5Ghz on LN2 the "hand picked" unit managed to bench at 5.8Ghz and suicided to 6.2Ghz and that is some how a bad thing? Even if bldegle2 misspoke and all 30 units had been tested. We are still looking at 10% of the CPUs hitting 5.5Ghz+. Current CPU-Z world record for the i7 is only 5.5Ghz. The only caveat that I see is if the third of a tray they had to work with was cherry picked at the packaging plant. If we are looking at a typical tray of parts, we are looking great, compared to both Intel i7 and the AMD Phenom 1.

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Originally Posted by Rammsteiner

3 out of 30... To be honest I just cant name that handpicked:rolleyes:

Anyway, My ETA got extended!:( To 19-12-08:p::up::shocked:

GEIV NOA!

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Have to agree with you Rammetiener, sorry about that eta slippage.

And those 30 were all retail boxed or already preselected at the Dresden fab (or wherever they are manufactured)

It's every manufacturers privilege to provide it's best clockers with so called golden samples.. Also what's handpicked to you then ? 1 out of 100, ...? What is cherry picked then ? Even one out of two is handpicked to me, as you just take the best... if you got only one to choose from, like the average Joe, I call it luck... if the crowd will get Phenom II at or around 4ghz, most users will be very happy with the performance/price ratio...

I don't mind what brand will be in my rig next year when I upgrade, but I rather prefer to see some results then a zillion of pages of nothing spread over several threads... but this seems to be so typical to the news section threads... nice catchy titles and numerous discussions on pointless matters...

Let's hope for AMD this baby will be the rv770 for it's CPU's again, like in the good old Athlon and Athlon 64 days... competition is soooo nice...

!!! I WANT RESULTS TO COMPARE PLZ !!!

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Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

Let's hope for AMD this baby will be the rv770 for it's CPU's again, like in the good old Athlon and Athlon 64 days... competition is soooo nice...

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i think this is the rv670 of the cpu's, a better balanced chip with better thermals
let's hope their next cpu is the rv770 and destroys the competition :)

I only talk performance... I want the fastest, not the coolest or a mix of those two... what I meant was that RV770 (48series) shocked the community and Nvidia till now has got no real reply... would be nice if AMD can pull that one off for it's CPU's

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Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

I only talk performance... I want the fastest, not the coolest or a mix of those two... what I meant was that RV770 (48series) shocked the community and Nvidia till now has got no real reply... would be nice if AMD can pull that one off for it's CPU's

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That probably won't happen until Bulldozer.

About cherry picking, from the AMD section

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Originally Posted by bldegle2

This time the jump that AMD is making is not small, you will be impressed.....the LN2 Phenom was a semi cherry pick, they tested only three processors from a 30 unit batch, took the best one, the other two only did 5.5 for a stable bench run, uh, I'll take one...............

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That is one of three. If you have 30 processors, pick three of those and try to OC as high as possible. Two goes to 5.5 and one over 6

As I understand it, the other 27 processors was not tested?

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Originally Posted by gosh

About cherry picking, from the AMD section



That is one of three. If you have 30 processors, pick three of those and try to OC as high as possible. Two goes to 5.5 and one over 6

As I understand it, the other 27 processors was not tested?

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i understand it that way: they tested all 30 and took the three best....

Also im with that what Leeghoofd said, we dont know if that 30 cpus where retail or what ever else, so maybe they where already preselected.

But to be honest i don't care anymore for that event, i want to see results from users around here. :up:

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Originally Posted by Hornet331

i understand it that way: they tested all 30 and took the three best....

Also im with that what Leeghoofd said, we dont know if that 30 cpus where retail or what ever else, so maybe they where already preselected.

But to be honest i don't care anymore for that event, i want to see results from users around here. :up:

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most likely because more volts didn't hep those chips. happens with a lot of phenom I.

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Originally Posted by Hornet331

i understand it that way: they tested all 30 and took the three best....

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But he wrote "they tested only three processors from a 30 unit batch"

This is awsome news guys as there is a much better selection of high quality 790fx boards out there with the sb600.

posted by Stuen4y in the AMD thread.......http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=456005

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Originally Posted by Stuen4y

A little update of the theme. It seems that Phenom II won't suffer from the ACC bug and will be fully competitive on SB600 boards. Arguement. I don't care about the conditions, the results are significant :).
P.S. That is confirmed only for the BE processors. I have no information about the FSB clock and how will the SB600 clock PII 920.

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^ That is great news! Now i dont need to worry about my Gigabyte GA-MA790FX-DQ6 mobo.

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Originally Posted by T_Flight

That's great. These chopped up unverified images are making them look bad. It's just not a professional way to do things. Either post some shots or not, but posting the corner of an unverified CPU-z screen? Nobody does stuff like that. If I did that here I'd be laughed right off here...heck, my screen would probably get reported and removed, and I'd deserve it.

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Yeah why don't they screen 100000 chips (probably next gen ones fused to look like current ones) and pick the best one. Then have their front man drive to Las Vegas and have an 'expert' overclocker run it on air with secret settings on a modified board and have an air conditioner blowing air through the cooler (hmm wonder why there was music playing in the background during the actual run) :rolleyes: and video tape a single superpi run that hits one core and then claim it does 5GHz are cooled on 8 threads. Yup that sounds a better thing to do.

What do you all expect AMD to do from a part that hasn't officially launched yet? There are enough people who can be trusted that showed up at the event and saw everything with their own eyes. I believe that more than what I just described above.

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Originally Posted by LowRun

Bloody crap!!! Since when Macci (THE LEGEND and one of the nicest guys in this community) and some of the most trusted peeps on XS became questionable persons???

I for one am sick of those newcomers dragging down some of the most respected people here like they are just a bunch of liars/fakers.

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Exactly. And nothing is being done about it. Just like the dude that directly insulted me. Hmm, wonder what happened to that guy...

Maybe I should change my avatar and put some blue in there so that maybe when the next guy does it something will happen.

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Originally Posted by moloko

Yeah, from what I saw as well as after having a hands on play, I believe we'll see higher frequencies obtained by the OC elite with combinations of lower multipliers (than used by AMD @ the demo) and higher bus frequencies. Here's a snippet from a post I made on OCAU replying to dino on this point:



Also on this note, all the media were getting stuck at ~3.9GHz because they were only using multiplier while with a combination of settings I hit 4.1GHz with minimal effort. This further adds weight to the concept that the chips have potential to go further in the hands of experienced overclockers using combinations of settings.

An interesting side note: The maximum multiplier available is currently 48x so there's plenty of multiplier headroom :rofl:

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Hey seeing as you were there, how many systems were running OC'ed? Was it just one running as all the cherry picker comments seem to imply?

Also did you actually see the systems running at the claimed speed for more than a suicide shot?

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Originally Posted by dinos22

http://www.flickr.com/photos/amd_unprocessed/

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3223/...9a75fb.jpg?v=0

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Youpi. Le verge e dur.

FYI, there is a Edit button in bottom right of your post in case you didnt know that and I dont mean that rude if it sounds that way.

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Originally Posted by taurus_sel

Exactly. And nothing is being done about it. Just like the dude that directly insulted me. Hmm, wonder what happened to that guy...

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What exchange are you referring to?

If this come close to what it is im going back to AMD!!

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Originally Posted by Overgloc

If this come close to what it is im going back to AMD!!

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I don't think you will be the only one :shrug:

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Originally Posted by taurus_sel

Yeah why don't they screen 100000 chips (probably next gen ones fused to look like current ones) and pick the best one. Then have their front man drive to Las Vegas and have an 'expert' overclocker run it on air with secret settings on a modified board and have an air conditioner blowing air through the cooler (hmm wonder why there was music playing in the background during the actual run) :rolleyes: and video tape a single superpi run that hits one core and then claim it does 5GHz are cooled on 8 threads. Yup that sounds a better thing to do.

What do you all expect AMD to do from a part that hasn't officially launched yet? There are enough people who can be trusted that showed up at the event and saw everything with their own eyes. I believe that more than what I just described above.

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Heheheh, you put a smile on my face. You don't see these same people questioning "Dr"Who. In fact the thread where respected members started to ask tough questions got closed down temporarily. Too hot for drWho!!!!!!

For all we know that partial screenshot was of a Sempron :shrug:

And when DrWho was called out he tried to turn it around by saying his point is to show that all manufacturer demos are worthless!!!! He should run for president of France with these political skills. Watch out Sarkozy!!!!!