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02-05-2009, 11:34 AM
F.E.A.R.

I testet Adaptec 1405. Crappy thing :rolleyes:
I get a better perfomance with ASUS Striker II Extreme (Onboard - 790i).

For best performance you need a controler with IOP341-CPU (NOT 348!!!). For example ARC-1231/1261/1280ML
02-05-2009, 12:23 PM
One_Hertz

Quote:

Originally Posted by F.E.A.R.

For best performance you need a controler with IOP341-CPU (NOT 348!!!). For example ARC-1231/1261/1280ML

How do you figure that out? Is it worse than onboard still at random reads?
02-05-2009, 12:34 PM
ewitte

Quote:

Originally Posted by One_Hertz

I turned off my read cache for exactly that reason :). Reads are plenty fast on ALL SSDs.

I'll probably be selling my 5405 when new SSD raid cards get released (the 1405 is non raid). Performance does indeed suffer quite a bit by using the controller versus onboard (of course without taking cache into account, which makes the controller useful even with a performance drop).

All it really neads is a little BIOS TLC, performance is nowhere near what it can be. Much better "general" usage than the onboard still though.
02-05-2009, 12:37 PM
One_Hertz

Quote:

Originally Posted by ewitte

All it really neads is a little BIOS TLC, performance is nowhere near what it can be. Much better "general" usage than the onboard still though.

Hopefully... The general usage is only better due to the cache. Turn that off and poof, its worse than onboard.
02-05-2009, 02:15 PM
ewitte

Quote:

Originally Posted by One_Hertz

Hopefully... The general usage is only better due to the cache. Turn that off and poof, its worse than onboard.

I got the best PCMark Vantage "importing pictures" results off onboard. While I get the others to go up the more I tweak that one just keeps dropping. Onboard with a single drive (or maybe it was 2) got like 100MB/s and now with my best score ever its about 30. Virusscan is like 300MB/s though :D
02-05-2009, 04:12 PM
ewitte

Quote:

Originally Posted by F.E.A.R.

I testet Adaptec 1405. Crappy thing :rolleyes:
I get a better perfomance with ASUS Striker II Extreme (Onboard - 790i).

For best performance you need a controler with IOP341-CPU (NOT 348!!!). For example ARC-1231/1261/1280ML

How crappy? I just told my work to order the 1045 for an external SAS tape autoloader.
02-05-2009, 05:32 PM
NapalmV5

boottimer info/thread/download: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=212097

supertalent and areca released new firmwares

finally 0.1ms.. read/write/burst a few improved
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/4964/1231jw3.png

4 sec flat windows bootup time ? ill give it a shot..
02-05-2009, 06:58 PM
NapalmV5

wow/daium/holy.. watta a diff !! :eek:

the new ssd firmware teared thru winxp install like never before.. and other app install aswell :clap:

its a totally new/faster/snappier rig.. finally getting the performance worth the $

so far i got it down to 4.156 sec bootup but the actual bootup is less than 3 seconds more like 2 seconds
02-05-2009, 07:05 PM
One_Hertz

Quote:

Originally Posted by NapalmV5

wow/daium/holy.. watta a diff !! :eek:

the new ssd firmware teared thru winxp install like never before.. and other app install aswell :clap:

its a totally new/faster/snappier rig.. finally getting the performance worth the $

so far i got it down to 4.156 sec bootup but the actual bootup is less than 3 seconds more like 2 seconds

there you go! You probably gained 30-35% random reads that you lost before due to :banana::banana::banana::banana:ty controller implementation.
02-05-2009, 07:10 PM
ewitte

Not really crappy before just never designed to handle SSD drives properly. If I don't see something soon from Adaptec I may have to change controllers ;)

EDIT: oh lol thats the 1231 I don't think I'm dropping that much cash.
02-05-2009, 07:13 PM
Tutto

I'm wanting to upgrade the standard 256Mb memory to 2GB on my 1231 controller. Could someone point me in the right direction as what memory to purchase. Thanks.
02-05-2009, 07:40 PM
NapalmV5

Quote:

Originally Posted by One_Hertz

there you go! You probably gained 30-35% random reads that you lost before due to :banana::banana::banana::banana:ty controller implementation.

well the ssd firmware i updated after arc1231s.. that i did a few days ago.. i got the ssd firmware days ago but i just flashed today

or if you mean the ssds crapy jmicron controller.. indeed

not quite 4 flat but close
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/474/bootupmk4.png
actual bootup @ 2 seconds
02-06-2009, 12:00 AM
NapalmV5

4x @ arc1231 before/after ssd and controller firmware latest updates

before
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/7950/62709569ik3.png
after
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/6613/95843445jn4.png

before
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/9896/98918595ed8.png
after
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/3809/31145282bv9.png
02-06-2009, 03:08 AM
ewitte

Did they do a new firmware for 1210 as well?
02-06-2009, 04:36 AM
flopper

Quote:

Originally Posted by ewitte

Did they do a new firmware for 1210 as well?

latest is 1.46.
02-06-2009, 07:24 AM
One_Hertz

Quote:

Originally Posted by NapalmV5

well the ssd firmware i updated after arc1231s.. that i did a few days ago.. i got the ssd firmware days ago but i just flashed today

or if you mean the ssds crapy jmicron controller.. indeed

I am talking about the controller not adding 30-35% latency anymore. Nothing about jmicron. If you look at your avg response time it was 0.2 before and now it is 0.1 as it should be. You've gained ~30% random read IOPS.

Look at the max responce time, 0.32/0.28ms before and 0.17 after.
02-06-2009, 07:40 AM
NapalmV5

Quote:

Originally Posted by ewitte

Did they do a new firmware for 1210 as well?

yes.. 1.46-80806 old

Quote:

Originally Posted by flopper

latest is 1.46.

all areca raid cards @ new 1.46-90106

Quote:

Originally Posted by One_Hertz

I am talking about the controller not adding 30-35% latency anymore. Nothing about jmicron. If you look at your avg response time it was 0.2 before and now it is 0.1 as it should be. You've gained ~30% random read IOPS.

Look at the max responce time, 0.32/0.28ms before and 0.17 after.

bios/firm 1.46-90106 didnt lower the .2ms cause i flashed that days ago

the supertalent ssd firmware fixed that yesterday
02-06-2009, 07:41 AM
Demo

holy f**k at the arc1231 result!!
how fast can that boot vista.. something like 3-5 seconds?
02-06-2009, 07:49 AM
One_Hertz

Quote:

Originally Posted by NapalmV5

the supertalent ssd firmware fixed that yesterday

Oh I see it was the drives. Thanks for clearing that up.
02-06-2009, 07:52 AM
NapalmV5

Quote:

Originally Posted by F.E.A.R.

Hm, i don´t believe 4,578s.???
With initializing-time of the ARC-1231ML he got more than 4,578s. ;)

@ Napalm

My next project.

http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/showthread.php?t=580981

im interested and id be all over it but when i see 10000MB/s ram @ 200MB/s ?? and then i have to deal with a third party controllers :shakes:

abomination!!!
02-06-2009, 08:13 AM
NapalmV5

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demo

holy f**k at the arc1231 result!!
how fast can that boot vista.. something like 3-5 seconds?

lol well its not all 1231/ssd but also:

4500mhz q9650
600mhz ddr2
nlited winxp

Quote:

Originally Posted by One_Hertz

Oh I see it was the drives. Thanks for clearing that up.

yeh after flash completed it performed random read/write tests
02-06-2009, 08:38 AM
NapalmV5

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tutto

I'm wanting to upgrade the standard 256Mb memory to 2GB on my 1231 controller. Could someone point me in the right direction as what memory to purchase. Thanks.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...ame=Unbuffered

your welcome :)
02-06-2009, 09:53 AM
NapalmV5

post ssd firm update

arc1231 2048MB
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/6613/95843445jn4.png

arc1231 512MB
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/281/1231qs7.png
02-06-2009, 10:21 AM
F.E.A.R.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ewitte

How crappy? I just told my work to order the 1045 for an external SAS tape autoloader.

A little bit slower than my ASUS Striker II Extreme.
In my eyes only "SATA-Expander".

@ Napalm

Please try Crystaldiskmark (1000MB)
02-06-2009, 01:28 PM
NapalmV5

^ ive updated above to include ich10r @ h2benchw

- first post revised

Quote:

Originally Posted by NapalmV5

AristoChat @ luxx asked for arc1231+512MB @ 1000MB crystaldiskmark

heres the response
http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/1565/512as7.png

Quote:

Originally Posted by F.E.A.R.

@ Napalm

Please try Crystaldiskmark (1000MB)

before ^

after (arc1231+512MB)
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/6648/aftervq7.png

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