this is more of a 3850 x2 the 3870xt should have ddr4
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this is more of a 3850 x2 the 3870xt should have ddr4
What about the core and memclocks, the number of shaders per core, etc?Quote:
Originally Posted by zanzabar
Besides that, good thinking.
the cores on teh 3850 and 70 are identical one just gets 1.1V and one gets 1.3V the big difference is in the memory
Do we actually know how ATI (or AMD, whatever) decides that this core will be a 3850 and that core a 3870? Is it about yields? Because my guess is that if you overvolt your 3850 core tot 3870 voltages, you can easily "overclock" up to 3870 standards and way beyond. Am I right?
3850 is a single slot cooler, so not really. getting past 3870 clocks is a struggle regardless afaik.
If I wanted a new card here and now it'd be between 3870 x2 and regular 3870Quote:
Originally Posted by AbelJemka
What is so special with it? G80 - very successful chip, vs. R600 - Delayed + complete :banana::banana::banana::banana:. What can you expect?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kunaak
Same goes with Radeon 9k series vs. GeForce 5k series. Or Athlon64 vs. Netburst. Or even C2D vs. Phenom. They ALL have the same "structure", which is being: failed product vs. successful product.
What about when there is good/succesful vs. good/succesful?
we had that with 7900 series vs x1900 series or at least it was "succesful vs good and succesful" ;)
we also had the battle between 6800GT/U and X850XT-PE... :)
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/127...ion/index.html
Overclocked MSI tested with a Asus Blitz Extreme P35-board.
U guys know what i find so funny and don't get with all this hype for this card.:confused:
1. the GTX/Ultra is what 1yr and what some 4 months old:yepp:
2. it took AMD/ATI 2-3 gen of card to finally compete with nvidia:yepp:
3. look at the marginal performance gain in most games that with persons using a 1280x1024 res would notice.:yepp:
4. and last but not least i'm definitely buying nvidia's G100 when ever it comes out cuze this card migh be the card to hold of ATI Till 2-3yrs time :up: I'm happy with my gts g92.
PERSONS WITH GTX STILL R PLEASED WITH THEIR PERFORMANCES!!!!
ATI c'mon when will u learn or at least get some good engineers and better driver support!!! :shakes:
I mean i thought this review would make persons sorry the day they bout a gtx after seeing this review now a year later!!
If you want to play at 1280*1024 go buy HD 3870 ou 8800GT.
Nvidia G100? That´s not even known nothing about. We only know about 9800GX2 to launch in 3 weeks-1 month.
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Originally Posted by dejavuxx
do you;
a) know what your talking about?
b) live in a house with the nvidia logo on your door?
they practically nowhere managed to get real CF improvements and also every benchmark looks like its cpu-limited.
For example look at the small gains from 1920*1200 to 1280*1024.
But then, cpu limited with 3ghz c2q makes no sense at all.
waiting for HD3870X2 CF review ;)
dude, they had multi core GPUs in 2000... 4 pipes = 4 coresQuote:
Originally Posted by chew*
they're trying to split it into fewer smaller dies for the sake of yields. We'll be nearing 2 BILLION transistors within a fairly short amount of time and it's hard to get that onto one die.
it seems that the only problem are drivers as usual....I really hope ati gets that CF compatibilty issue cause a lot of games only use 1 core of the card
lololololol :D :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Origin_Unknown
We need to pass 1billion first for GPUs :DQuote:
Originally Posted by xlink
whoever the nvidiot was above.........do me a favor and get back to me in a 1-2 years and tell me if your card still works...........
One major reason I will not buy nvidia........cards die.......I have yet to lose an ati card...even when insanely volted and Oc'ed.....I still have my 9800pro 128 and a 256 model.....O and the 256 model has more voltmods than you can shake a stick at.
x1800xt still works...........x1900xt still works.......both are flashed xtx......
buddies 7900gtx? = dead.....never oced..........
my mx 400 = dead
My ti 4200 = dead
my ti 4400 = dead
my ti 4600 = dead
my fx 5600 = dead
my fx 5700U = dead
Fx 5950U DOA sent it back grabbed a 9800 pro, tossed on an artic cooling heatsink, gave it insane volts + flashed bios........never looked back....
Geez it almost looks like theres a pattern there...............
There is always the 8900GX2 or (on 9800 which its not..)...Quote:
Originally Posted by nr2134
Radeon display driver 8.45 v1.3 will improve performance and compatibility on the Radeon HD 3870 X2 over the current 8.45 v1.0 driver. The current set of driver is facing performance issues with games right now so benchmarks on this set of drivers are not reflective on the actual gaming performance yet.
the drivers have been holding back the launch of the 3870 X2 for quite some time, the v1.3 will still be beta and the real performance will be gained by 8.5. owners of the card will be able to get the drivers from the ATI website.The new set of driver will be out before 28th January according to AMD.
like always i was right - Launch of X2 is postponed because bad drivers performance ...
Your argument means nothing, my 9700pro=dead X850XT=dead. All cards will eventually die and no brand has the market cornered on longevity.Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
Beside, why would you care about the opinion of someone making high end arguments, who still thinks 1280x1024 is still an acceptable resolution to play on a $300+ card.
My GF2 MX200 still works.... my Radeon 7000 and like 10-12 3D Rage IIs still work... :shrug: