Barcelona Opteron 2350(B1) arrived

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10-26-2007, 12:54 AM
savantu

The L3 latency is 25 cycles , that's a lot.
10-26-2007, 12:58 AM
Lastviking

Some fast testing for showing K8 improvement over mhz

1 year old WinXp install for 24/7 os (thats why the times are slow and also 4x512mb and not tweaked)

Dfi Venus
Opty 165
4x512mb bh5

Used clockgen in windows to lower and higher the clocks"not same memmory speed and fsb, like the k10 scores"

54,907s 1600mhz 177fsb
43,641 2000 222
36,266 2400 267 ~7,375 improvement
34,843 2500 277
33,453 2600 289
32,203 2700 300
31,078 2800 311
30,000 2900 322
28,938 3000 333
28,047 3100 344 ~4,156 improvement from 2700mhz
10-26-2007, 01:34 AM
Lightman

Quote:

Originally Posted by kyosen

Please calm down about scaling for SuperPI time...
I'll try it again, with K8 Opteron 2212 and K10, with same OS:yepp:

Domo Arigato!
This will clearly show performance improvement between K8 and K10 in applications you will run! :up:
10-26-2007, 02:28 AM
JohnMike

Quote:

Originally Posted by kyosen

And these are latecy test results with Everest Ultimate v4.20:
at 2.0G=200x10: 76.0ns
at 2.2G=220x10: 69.0ns
at 2.4G=240x10: 63.4ns

That's not bad... I think the «2.4G=240x10: 63.4ns» is not far form Intel Qcore @2.4Ghz.

I would like to know how far RAM can run on a K10 system... If can catch Intel systems...

:shrug:
10-26-2007, 04:06 AM
PhilDoc

Thanks for all the hard work Kyosen. The L3 latency was pretty much expected. At this point no one seems to know how that will affect performance, but time will tell. Very supprised about the spi scores with gangled and ungangled. Could have had a better choice of terminology, lol, but maybe a repeat of the scores just to be sure. Looking forward to anything you'd like to run, looks great so far.
10-26-2007, 04:59 AM
hipro5

L3 Cache had a good impact back in the days of P4 Northwood (Gallatin) CPU....You could gain about 4% - 8% more depending on applications....So IF Barchy gets ONLY 4-8% more than K8, It's the L3 Cache, so AMD isn't going to be that fast....If it gains more, then it will be OK....;)
10-26-2007, 05:17 AM
Sparky

Quote:

Originally Posted by perkam

Then let me tell you in advance, it will :D

Perkam

I do hope you're right *crosses fingers*
10-26-2007, 07:03 AM
Blasar

Quote:

Originally Posted by SparkyJJO

I do hope you're right *crosses fingers*

I dont know if this is a stupid question that was answered before, if that´s the case excuse me, but how does Perkam knows

that they will be better??

Nevertheless, i´m eagerly waiting to see the Phenom results, and i hope Perkam is absolutely right..:yepp:
10-26-2007, 08:03 AM
cky2k6

Quote:

Originally Posted by perkam

Then let me tell you in advance, it will :D

Perkam

not trying to be a party pooper... but its a pretty bold statement, and from all that's been said, its just a higher clocking process tweak. let me tell you, i will be ecstatic if its more.
10-26-2007, 09:10 AM
freeloader

Any chance at some 2.6ghz love (or higher)? :D

BTW...good job! Finally nice to see some overclocking with these chips.
10-26-2007, 09:13 AM
PhilDoc

Quote:

Originally Posted by cky2k6

not trying to be a party pooper... but its a pretty bold statement, and from all that's been said, its just a higher clocking process tweak. let me tell you, i will be ecstatic if its more.

I'm not sure I like the way you opined that. :D
10-26-2007, 09:15 AM
BeardyMan

Hmm strange

Quad core

look at that bios shot

it says

L1 = 512Kb, 128X4
L2 = 2048kb , 512kb X4
L3 = 2048kb
is it me or isn't that wrong?
10-26-2007, 09:30 AM
Mad_Man

L3 is shared 2MB so its correct
10-26-2007, 09:30 AM
nesham

You are wrong. Barca have 4x128KB L1 + 4x512KB L2 + 2 MB L3 shared cache.
10-26-2007, 09:31 AM
s7e9h3n

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeardyMan

Hmm strange

Quad core

look at that bios shot

it says

L1 = 512Kb, 128X4
L2 = 2048kb , 512kb X4
L3 = 2048kb
is it me or isn't that wrong?

It's you ;) The l3 cache is shared....
10-26-2007, 09:32 AM
BeardyMan

Quote:

Originally Posted by nesham

You are wrong. Barca have 4x128KB L1 + 4x512KB L2 + 2 MB L3 shared cache.

LOL?:D
10-26-2007, 09:32 AM
BeardyMan

Quote:

Originally Posted by s7e9h3n

It's you ;) The l3 cache is shared....

No it's you :D

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10-26-2007, 09:39 AM
akaBruno

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhilDoc

I'm not sure I like the way you opined that. :D

:clap:

o·pine (ō-pīn')

v., o·pined, o·pin·ing, o·pines.

v.tr.
To state as an opinion.

v.intr.
To express an opinion: opined on the defendant's testimony.

[Middle English opinen, from Old French opiner, from Latin opīnārī, to suppose.]
10-26-2007, 09:51 AM
cky2k6

Quote:

Originally Posted by akaBruno

:clap:

o·pine (ō-pīn')

v., o·pined, o·pin·ing, o·pines.

v.tr.
To state as an opinion.

v.intr.
To express an opinion: opined on the defendant's testimony.

[Middle English opinen, from Old French opiner, from Latin opīnārī, to suppose.]

his usage of the word was actually correct ;) thanks for the definition mr. chaucer
10-26-2007, 09:51 AM
tsuehpsyde

Thanks for the work Kyosen. :) Very much appreciated.
10-26-2007, 03:03 PM
tux08902

Does it clock any higher?
10-26-2007, 03:52 PM
Viper666

funny the L3 runs at the speed of the memory controller,on Barcy thats 1.8 @2Ghz on Phenom its alot higher ! I think I saw 4Ghz somewhere
10-26-2007, 05:35 PM
tictac

so we can overclock l3 cache? wow..
10-26-2007, 05:43 PM
akaBruno

Quote:

Originally Posted by tux08902

Does it clock any higher?

I doubt it will without some more juice pumpin. We're lookin at a NF4 here not a 790.

Kyosen and Stephen are owed a debt of gratitude. They've taken crap chips to a level we haven't seen yet. On crap boards, I might add...

As far as I know... these guys are the only ones on the internet that have given us a glimpse of the AMD future.

Thanks guys,

BRUNO
10-26-2007, 06:38 PM
PhilDoc

Imho, chipsets have always been a major problem for AMD and have hampered performance. Whether their own or other manufactures. The NF4 did happen to be one of the better though. Lets hope the new AMD 790 finally gives AMD users a great one.

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