Might as well use this as a roll call:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mekrel
$20 in my hand waiting for a top, here.
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Might as well use this as a roll call:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mekrel
$20 in my hand waiting for a top, here.
:rofl: I have a feeling this is going to prove something.:shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by ranker
Counselor,Quote:
Originally Posted by ranker
Come on. Of all things, you are in the legal business. You know better than I do that such things are ethically questionable, at best.
Just trying to get the ball rolling in establishing demand. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by IanY
I recognize a little conflict of interest here .. :) I too want a copper top badly.. :) HOWEVER, it would be absurd to knowingly compromise ethical standards especially when I know full well that this constitutes a massive trampling of IP.
Oh what the h3ll... I got $40 for a copper top... don't sell to ranker.. sell to me :D
I've got 20 bucks in hand waiting also. And a plane jane top would not be "a massive trampling of IP." I don't particularly care for the whole Edlebrock look anyway. But if Anderoid was offering (and he's not) I'd buy it without remorse.
Oh I didn't mean it that way. I meant to say "Gabe, I have $20 for your company if you produce a top".Quote:
Originally Posted by IanY
I'd buy other tops as well as long as they weren't exact copies in design. Heck, I'd rather have a more efficient design with copper fins if possible if I were to buy an aftermarket 3rd party top for the GTX.
In that case, then hell.. Gabe.. you have my money for a full copper block. I was willing and ready to pay $300 for a G5 Silver block, and never found one in those days, so any reasonable amount and the deal is done.Quote:
Originally Posted by ranker
I see what Gabe is saying. It's not a plain-jane, flat-top block. Its an EXACT copy just a different material. I don't know what I would do in his position, but I would be mighty pissed-off.
BTW: Would the cost be much different if tops were made with brass rather than copper?
The bloke made one top, there really isn't any need for anyone to get pee'd off about anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by AllAgainstPaul
No different from making any modification to something that you own for private use, as long as you're aware of any warranty invalidation.
I under IP but look in order to use an after-market top, you still have to buy the block, right...so Gabe is losing nothing except a market he does not want to serviceQuote:
Originally Posted by AllAgainstPaul
I have no problems paying $30 for a DCC2 top..so another $30-40 for my GTX...fine
I had a very hard time buying the GTX becasue of the aluminum top(I really have a concern trusting companies that promise there will be no problems when so many could careless about CS but given Gabe's assurance and how well he and Swiftech have treated me I decided to support his porduct), but I finally figured why not...I expect Gabe will probably consider another top as an option, given the strong desires he is seeing
I still have a hard time understading how in the world the copper top would add $30-40 to the orginial block even given the price of copper is 3x higher than a couple/3 yrs ago
the answers are:Quote:
Originally Posted by nealh
1/ yes I am considering a limited series all copper top, or maybe brass. depends on how/if we can make stealth. cannot make stealth in copper. crazy prohibitive, too difficult to machine in copper. maybe brass, maybe..
2/ higher cost of material
3/ higher cost of machining copper is much higher than aluminum
4/ much smaller production runs; setup cost divided by smaller qty = higher setup cost per piece;
I hope you strongly consider it as I, the fellow enthusiasts here, and all of my personal associates/friends will be lining up to purchase these.Quote:
Originally Posted by gabe
Is there a problem with you making Delrin as a top? I would imagine it would be strong enough for the thick o-ring, but obviously - I don't design blocks ;)
Just seems if price for the machining and material is that high then maybe it is a solution.
Or is it a look you wouldn't want the GTX to bare?
Id buy a GTX with a copper top in a heart beat. My apogee is aging.
GTX and Stealth are a set. I can't make Stealth out of Delrin (memory cooling). so I will make GTX based on the material I can use with Stealth. making stealth out of copper was simply not realistic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mekrel
we are looking at brass right now. nothing final though. but delrin is out of the question because of stealth.
BTW thanks for the follow...Quote:
Originally Posted by gabe
I had no idea copper is more costly to machine
smaller production runs..so you sell fewer GTX block than other cpu blocks...I am surprised at this....but I guess vs Apogee GT the price difference must deter some
All for a copper or brass top...
I am sure Gabe has a reason he is not going delrin but I would be happy with that as well... esspecially for the stealth... make a matched set with delrin...
Gabe,
Strive to make the best water block in the world. I will gladly pay $200 for such a block. I nearly paid $400 for a silver G5, and I was prepared to pay for one in its day, and even with the immense price gouging, nobody was willing to sell. $200 is a decent price to pay for the world's best water block.
Stealth: you cannot cool the memory with Delrin. you need metal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bun-Bun
http://www.swiftech.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=199
Looks like some people might just get their wish.Quote:
Originally Posted by gabe
Edit: whoops, missed the part where this was discussed in here already, guess I'm a bit slow. :)
Ah yes I forgot the design of your stealth uses the top to cool the ram...Quote:
Originally Posted by gabe
Lol I just registered there and posted that today!Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisgbk
The RAM? :shrug: How that? This cooler is on the CPU?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bun-Bun
I cannot imagine, that it really takes effekt in anyway.
Couldnīt that be tested? Delrin against Alu?
I would think, it makes no difference. (0,5°C?)
The Stealth is on the GPU.Quote:
Originally Posted by peebee