The best Conroe Work Station Motherboard ASUS P5W64 WS Pro

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09-13-2006, 08:57 AM
Yoxxy

I think you need to either have a fan on the heat pipe or replace the stock heatpipe with something else if you are not using a CPU fan. It looks as if you are using vapochill, so the heat will not escape from the heatpipe.
09-13-2006, 10:00 AM
Durzel

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoxxy

I think you need to either have a fan on the heat pipe or replace the stock heatpipe with something else if you are not using a CPU fan. It looks as if you are using vapochill, so the heat will not escape from the heatpipe.

Not using Vapo at the moment, this is all on air.

CPU heatsink is an Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro.
09-13-2006, 11:27 AM
Devious

Quote:

Originally Posted by Durzel

Not having much joy with my P5W64 so far, it's crapping out at pretty much exactly the same 1:1 FSB as my P5W-DH (66M0AG, 1.65v vMCH) did.

Can anyone see anything wrong with what I'm doing?..

1) Booting it at 3.4Ghz (340x10 - can't change multiplier in BIOS), memory is set to be 1:1, 2.1v (G.Skill PC2-6400 2GB HZ)
2) Using CrystalCPUID to lower multi to 6x
3) Using Clockgen to move FSB up from 340 to 400 and beyond
4) Like my P5W-DH this P5W64 (68M0AG) hard locks at around 410FSB.

I've tried setting mem to SPD or Manual and it doesn't seem to make any difference.

Voltages are 1.7v vMCH (tried 1.8v - no difference), 1.3250v vCore (overvolts to about 1.38v in PC Probe), FSB 1.4v, ICH 1.2v.

Given so many other people seem to be getting well over 400 I can't help but think I'm doing something fundamentally wrong? I haven't changed the TIM or anything yet on this P5W64, or even taken the plastic film off the covers. If Hexus can get 500FSB 1:1 "just by changing 1.7v", and Andre and co. are getting 450+ with ease - where am I going wrong? :(

Sad to hear that, I was going to buy that mobo but the lack of people showing off their results from the retail boards on this and other forums has made me hold off buying.

Im now looking towards the Abit AW9-max.
09-13-2006, 12:51 PM
Durzel

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devious

Sad to hear that, I was going to buy that mobo but the lack of people showing off their results from the retail boards on this and other forums has made me hold off buying.

Im now looking towards the Abit AW9-max.

Yeah, I think I'm gonna go back to a P5W-DH - at least if I can find somewhere in the UK that is selling the latest revision. AW9-Max isnt an option for me because using both PCI-e slots would mean no PCI slots available... its a really really badly designed board, I don't care what its capable of. :(

I'm pretty annoyed at the moment to be honest.. I bought a P5W-DH from Microdirect to replace my existing one expecting it to be 68M0AG because they were out of stock... and it turned up 66M0AG. Paid £18 sending it back Special Delivery within the 7 day period - hopefully Ill get a refund on the shipping.

Got P5W64 which I was sure would be the answer to my prayers and would give me 450+ easily - and I hit the same roadblock as I did with my P5W-DH.

Strangely my CPU was showing a lot higher temperatures in Windows than my P5W-DH (up to 50 degrees C idle), despite the fact nothing has changed hardware wise - and the cooler uses the standard Intel push-pin mechanism so theres no real room for a bad contact.

The RAM runs 500Mhz at a non-1:1 ratio, and my CPU will do 3.6Ghz dual Prime stable at 1.4250v. Do I need to run more than 2.1v through G.Skill PC2-6400 2GB HZ to get over 410FSB 1:1, when I don't have to for the 500Mhz on a different ratio?

I could redo the TIM on the NB and SB, maybe even put my Swiftech on it but as soon as I do that I'm stuck with the board - can't return it as "new". I've already got one P5W-DH that "only" has 1.65v vMCH (thanks Asus) which I'm going to have to sell on.

Really don't know what to do at the moment.
09-13-2006, 01:57 PM
[timko]

Durzel,

If you haven't already done so, it might be an idea to get dirty with Memset and relax some of the alpha timings (beyond the basic 4 settings eg 4-4-4-12).

Read Delay (tRD) of 7 or over may help
Refresh Mode Select (RMS) 7.8us or 3.9us (this value is more relaxed than than 7.8us or 15.Xus)
Everything from and including tRFC downwards try giving a +1 and see if that helps.

I know you already said that you've had 500Mhz at async and so it would be reasonable to expect the same mem settings to work at a lower Mhz in sync but as they say, stranger things have happened :)
09-13-2006, 02:05 PM
yotomeczek

Quote:

Originally Posted by smids

Surely http://pc.emarket.pl/pricelist/item.aspx?PID=C6550643 = $204USD or £109GBP. Do they ship to the UK? :p: :slobber: :rolleyes:

That is just one of many shops at that price.

Yes - and all out of stock ...
09-13-2006, 02:10 PM
smids

Quote:

Originally Posted by yotomeczek

Yes - and all out of stock ...

There are many others - and it isn't out of stock, they haven't received stock yet. Gawd, use google.pl typing 'asus p5w64-ws pro' - you'd be surprised what that brings up...
09-13-2006, 06:32 PM
Omega_

Quote:

Originally Posted by Durzel

Not having much joy with my P5W64 so far, it's crapping out at pretty much exactly the same 1:1 FSB as my P5W-DH (66M0AG, 1.65v vMCH) did.

Can anyone see anything wrong with what I'm doing?..

1) Booting it at 3.4Ghz (340x10 - can't change multiplier in BIOS), memory is set to be 1:1, 2.1v (G.Skill PC2-6400 2GB HZ)
2) Using CrystalCPUID to lower multi to 6x
3) Using Clockgen to move FSB up from 340 to 400 and beyond
4) Like my P5W-DH this P5W64 (68M0AG) hard locks at around 410FSB.

I've tried setting mem to SPD or Manual and it doesn't seem to make any difference.

Voltages are 1.7v vMCH (tried 1.8v - no difference), 1.3250v vCore (overvolts to about 1.38v in PC Probe), FSB 1.4v, ICH 1.2v.

Given so many other people seem to be getting well over 400 I can't help but think I'm doing something fundamentally wrong? I haven't changed the TIM or anything yet on this P5W64, or even taken the plastic film off the covers. If Hexus can get 500FSB 1:1 "just by changing 1.7v", and Andre and co. are getting 450+ with ease - where am I going wrong? :(

I already bought all my cpu components except for the mobo, I saw this mobo was going to be released soon, so I hold a bit

Seems like I should get a P5WDG2-WS PRO :(

So far what is known about overclocking on P5W64-WS Pro PRO and P5WDG2-WS PRO?
09-13-2006, 08:36 PM
daos

dont know if this has been posted but a pretty good read non the less> http://www.hothardware.com/viewartic...leid=869&cid=3
09-13-2006, 09:16 PM
Dumo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Durzel

Really don't know what to do at the moment.

If it the same like DG2 WS Pro then Vcore actually overvolted. Try a bit more vcore and probly it will help.
09-13-2006, 09:24 PM
erwinz

nice link.. :D thanks..

Quote:

Originally Posted by daos

dont know if this has been posted but a pretty good read non the less> http://www.hothardware.com/viewartic...leid=869&cid=3
09-14-2006, 12:18 AM
Durzel

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dumo

If it the same like DG2 WS Pro then Vcore actually overvolted. Try a bit more vcore and probly it will help.

More vCore???

Just to reiterate... on my P5W-DH where vCore undervolts (so 1.3250v in BIOS is about 1.28 from memory) I couldn't Clockgen past 410.

On this P5W64 - same hardware, cooler, etc - 1.3250v in BIOS is 1.38v in PC Probe, and I can't get past 410 reliably.

I really can't see how more vCore is going to help this. :(
09-14-2006, 01:24 AM
Durzel

Quote:

Originally Posted by [timko]

Durzel,

If you haven't already done so, it might be an idea to get dirty with Memset and relax some of the alpha timings (beyond the basic 4 settings eg 4-4-4-12).

Read Delay (tRD) of 7 or over may help
Refresh Mode Select (RMS) 7.8us or 3.9us (this value is more relaxed than than 7.8us or 15.Xus)
Everything from and including tRFC downwards try giving a +1 and see if that helps.

I know you already said that you've had 500Mhz at async and so it would be reasonable to expect the same mem settings to work at a lower Mhz in sync but as they say, stranger things have happened :)

I tried following what SimonMaltby did before - setting RAM to manual (4-4-4-12) and then using MemSet to set all the subsettings to SPD, but this didn't help from what I could tell.

Booting straight into Windows with SPD settings also didn't make any difference.

I tried bumping vDimm to 2.3v to see if that made any difference and I was able to MemSet up to 430 before it locked. Trying 440 caused it to lock up.
09-14-2006, 08:07 AM
nooh

does anybody know if this board works with a 7950 gx2?
09-14-2006, 08:08 AM
nooh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Durzel

Not using Vapo at the moment, this is all on air.

CPU heatsink is an Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro.

you have good IHS
contact and the HSF is taking advantage of that.
09-14-2006, 11:38 AM
xgman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Durzel

More vCore???

Just to reiterate... on my P5W-DH where vCore undervolts (so 1.3250v in BIOS is about 1.28 from memory) I couldn't Clockgen past 410.

On this P5W64 - same hardware, cooler, etc - 1.3250v in BIOS is 1.38v in PC Probe, and I can't get past 410 reliably.

I really can't see how more vCore is going to help this. :(

You need closer to 1.5 or more to get a good overclock with what you have. Try it, but without your LS, it is going to get hot. The conroe's respond to more vcore faster than anything else as far as overclocking.
09-14-2006, 02:16 PM
billdavis

so is this the current "best" conroe board for overclocking out or not
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09-14-2006, 02:19 PM
xpsentity

Quote:

Originally Posted by billdavis

so is this the current "best" conroe board for overclocking out or not

Look here.
09-14-2006, 02:29 PM
billdavis

anyone want to buy my opty and expert mobo LOL

it is time for me to go conroe!!
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09-14-2006, 04:51 PM
Omega_

Available!!!

You can buy it from:

http://www.excaliberpc.com

for only 335 us$ :slapass: Jeeez
09-16-2006, 03:38 PM
camouflage

Quote:

Originally Posted by Durzel

Not having much joy with my P5W64 so far, it's crapping out at pretty much exactly the same 1:1 FSB as my P5W-DH (66M0AG, 1.65v vMCH) did.

Can anyone see anything wrong with what I'm doing?..

1) Booting it at 3.4Ghz (340x10 - can't change multiplier in BIOS), memory is set to be 1:1, 2.1v (G.Skill PC2-6400 2GB HZ)
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;) Go for latest 0209 BIOS on ASUS page - You'll be able to change the multi then.

:toast:
09-16-2006, 03:43 PM
Durzel

Yeah I'm all sorted now. :) Thanks :)
09-19-2006, 01:28 AM
merlin76

I'm getting a P5W64 WS Pro this week and already downloaded latest drivers and BIOS. Today I looked again for an updated BIOS and saw that ASUS has pulled BIOS 0209 from their website. Does anybody know why?

http://support.asus.com/download/dow...20Professional
09-19-2006, 01:52 AM
camouflage

Quote:

Originally Posted by merlin76

I'm getting a P5W64 WS Pro this week and already downloaded latest drivers and BIOS. Today I looked again for an updated BIOS and saw that ASUS has pulled BIOS 0209 from their website. Does anybody know why?

http://support.asus.com/download/dow...20Professional

:eek: Huh, I'm no fortune teller but awaiting my 64 this week I downloaded the 0209 two days ago to be on the safe side.... - what a luck !!! :p:

Maybe INTEL want to sell more of the expensive E6800 with the free multi - so it could be ASUS got under pressure from them not to release downwards multi free BIOS versions for cheaper chips......:stick:

Just speculation, but similar things did happen many times in the past .... ;)
09-19-2006, 01:55 AM
sierra_bound

I used 0209 bios for awhile. Seemed okay to me. Multipliers up to x20 for X6800.

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/5462/410745ab8.jpg

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/3...m405245yz6.jpg

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