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only managed to run 2400 6-10-7-24 with psc chip wont do .1 over 2400mhz on the mems imc is weak. now board is dead lol woops
Sergio this is the 5GHz 32M challenge mate....... tweak for 5G 32M & your in
-updated
*Dinos18 top3 gigabyte face spanking fester
*AndreSerg welcome to "oc bushido"
dino,
those rams arent there for 5ghz fun, stop beating me with my own sticks!!! :D :rofl:
get those suckas cold! i wanna see how they react. 2600 c8 air isnt too shabby, and you know you have 50mhz headroom on air :up:
(EDIT: not for update Honda, thanks :))
got up to 1276mhz but it only cut 0.14s from 1250mhz run. That includes using Spi Booster on 0086.
cheapseats - 6:19:640 - 47x106.4 - 1276.5MHz - 9-12-8-30-86-1 - ASUS MVG - Exceleram EB3103A 4x2GB/PSC - 1.85V - air
4x2GB
http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/q...086_EX_8GB.png
Memtweaker Timing#2
CHB DIMM 0 is tricky .. will only run with different RTL & IOL for ranks 0 & 1.
Sometimes boots with both ranks at 41 & 4 but fails at Loop 6. Only passes 32M if Rank 0 is 40 & 3
http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/q..._EX_8GB_T2.png
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correct, CL values where WCL > CL is wasting time with PSC/BBSE.
this table was for Sandy + PSC, but the CL + WCL combinations for RTL & vDIMM scaling also apply to Ivy with PSC
the Hyper table was just a reference to show the differences in RTL scaling with PSC CL.
http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/q..._Hyper_PSC.png
full thread and 32M tests:
CL|WCL|RTL performance (SB) : 32M scaling charts : PSC WCL > CL performance bug
here i go again :)
well im proud to join the club with my old MIVE P67B3 and my patriots 2000 9-11-9-27 1T :)
W7x64 SP1 no optimizations just classic desktop
andressergio - 6:43.410 - 50x100 - 4x2GB PATRIOT VIPER EXTREME@ 1200MHz - 11-12-12-31-1T - 1.65v (AIR cooled memory, - WATER Cooled CPU) - ASUS Maximus Xtreme Formula IV
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cheers to all and sorry the mistake
Sergio
Looks like Intel shifted the POST calculation to include WCL from SNB onwards. Previously these two were tied on X58 and P55. IO-L is buffer latency and allows RTL to be shifted to account for any IO delays from the DRAM buffers (there is also a clock skew offset but that value is internal and calculated during POST).
EDIT: I should add that IO-L is an offset, the base value it is added to shifts so adjustment does not always help. The shifting in the base value is due to read/write levelling drift. This manifests at speeds higher than DDR3-2000 depending upon the DIMMs used (some DIMMs are okay to DDR3-2400). Basically you have to get lucky with training for stability.
The effective RTL time is likely close to: 8 X ((1000/Uncore Freq)+ Clock skew)+tCL. The IOL likely moves a pointer at the IMC FIFO buffer for data arrival on top of the RTL time. Uncore freq should be around DRAM Freq on this platform. I had a quick look at SNB last year and it seemed that is what Intel had done, I would assume it is the same here.
-Raja
I bet we will have campion 6min16sec soon.:)
I think this one is more about knowing before showing :)
Think this about all I got!
C-N - 6:20:985 - 49x102.1 - 1225.2MHz - 8-10-7-21-70-1 - Gigabyte UD5H - GSkill C8 2133mhz 2x2GB/BBSE - 1.82v - Stock Air
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Well done CN, try more vdimm and higher clocks, looks nice
DRAM-IMC offset on formula is game changer ;) 9-11-9 2550mhz not working on my pi's (it wants 9-12-9) volts not helping fails @ first iteration
Bumped DRAM-IMC offset +.01165 now 32m stable...Im stunned, those asus boys know what they are doing
If I cannot break 6m20s on air with this board then I will quit 2d benching for good lol
^ I have 2 kits of pi's now that will do 2550 8-12-7, but for whatever reason my scores are better with the 2x4gb ripjaws at 2666 10-12-11:shrug:
is it because high tWCL?
IDK lol, tWCL is 7, boots fine at 6 but pc shuts off doing waza.
Not sure why my times are so poor with 2x2gb kits. I started off going by cheapseats timings and subs, then went to 8-12-8, then 8-12-7-27.
Dram-imc +/- in formula bios is awesome:up:
Got another set of blue gskill 2133 c8 and an imc retarded 3770K, hope it will wake up with cold
^ LOL
My chip sucks on air/water, but on phase it does ok.
Its humid here this evening, but Im hoping later tonight Ill be able to play some more.
im going to assume everyone in here is using a raptor? Ive been on ssds. is there anyone on ssds? is this why my scores are so bad? ive been on 3 boards. 3 sets of ram, 2 cpus, differnent os, waza manual, waza with ocx. the only thing that hasnt changed is ive been on ssds the whole time.
^ Im on an Intel SSD, I think Dumo is also.
Thanks for the explanation Raja :) hope i'll be lucky again.
Manually changing the RTL & IOL on that rank in Memtweaker (must apply both at same time) hasn't worked very well so far.
fine looking run there C-N .. there is usually something more:D need to find some of it myself heheh
@trans am
have you disabled 'No Execute' memory protection or whatever it's called on your board ?
Execute Disable Bit on Asus, can't remember for GB.
SSD here as well - an old Intel X-25V.
Any ideas why I can pass 32m but cdt/copy waza gives me bsod lol?
Thanks buddy :up: I was told many times to ditch server 2003 & run XP & for me getting my lazy a** fired up enough to make a skinny XP has made a great improvement.
C-N - 6:20:703 - 50x100 - 1300MHz - 9-11-8-25-80-1 - Gigabyte UD5H - GSkill C8 2133mhz 2x2GB/BBSE - 1.88v - Stock Air
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yes i believe when I was on the asus execute disable bit was default disabled.
I havent done any specific ssd tweaks for this xp install. I googled xp ssd tweaks and found this ocz thread. Are any of you guys using any of the suggested tweaks on ssds?
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...o-SSD-friendly
btw nice run there C-N. I wish I could get this ironed out so I can play. just gimme anything under 6:28 and i'll be happy.
i disabled execute disble bit on the the ud3h. still no gains.
ocnub. I had the waza problem too. I could run 32m but when I ran ocx I would bsod. U need to reinstall os and start from scratch. that was the only way I fixed it.
if I only have 2 dimms populated should I shut bank interleave off?
******EDIT
you nailed it execute disable bit was enabled. I disabled it and i'm doing better. hang on.
what are you using for waza settings and max mem?
670 maxmem
and im using ocx just until i can see some changes. i will do manual waza down the line but i just want to see some quick tests.
ocx is 800
spi drive x
os c
32kb
35s sec
cdt
ran a few 16kb then fussed around 93 jsut guessing. then hit 32m and enter run ocx
then hit pi right after ocx counts down
ooh 6.27
getting better
something good is actually happening.
using ssd too
A little more improvements, 6m 24.xxx, still not satisfying.... But will have to lay it off for now, will try a bit more hw next weekend, have to hit below the 20 barrier, else a kitten will die...
Hi all, trying to learning the ropes (again somehow)... No wazaa. :(
maxxx - 6:24:672s - 48x100 - 1250.5Mhz - 8-11-7-28-96-1t - ASUS M5G - Corsair Dominator GTX3 2x2GB/PSC - 1.84 - Air Cooling
http://i402.photobucket.com/albums/p...un1_resize.jpg
^tRRSR to 4 will give you a healthy boost :)
Thanks Splave. Gonna give that try. :)
andressergio - 6:40.561 - 50x100 - 1300MHz - 12-12-12-31-1T 1,65v - ASUS Maximus Xtreme Formula IV - 4x2GB 2400 C11 PATRIOT VIPER EXTREME/Hynix - 1.65v - Air
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I haven't looked here for some time and i can see that there are some many good scores !! :D
Raja you're a top memory tweaker ! :up:
My Asus gene V is dead , so i can't continue . I also lost some screenshots with 6.19.X i had with 2 PSC sticks . I accidentaly deleted them ... :shrug:
My only option is to wait till next month for the formula V or extreme V.
yes and for a quick revision instead of waiting memtest hyperpi32 will tell you instant
this i just achieved and very happy for my daily setup, will shoot a SPI32 im sure it will drop a bit my score
this are 2600 11-12-12-31 1T
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Just an update on my run. Thanks to Splave's tip plus a little wazaa and bit more memory adjustment (not to mention more voltage).
maxxx - 6:20:796s - 48x100 - 1250.7Mhz - 8-11-7-27-90-1t - ASUS M5G - Corsair Dominator GTX3 2x2GB/PSC - 1.86 - Air Cooling
http://i402.photobucket.com/albums/p...GTX3/Run5a.jpg
angoholic - 6:19:984- 50x100 - 1300MHz - 8-12-9-28-80-1 - Asus Maximus V Gene - GSkill RipjawsX 2200C7 2x2GB/PSC - 1.85V - stock air
http://www.abload.de/thumb/32m_6m_19.984s_5ghzwr7bf.jpg
Sorry for the delayed showing:D
fredyama/Shamino/Andre witnessed by GoriLLakoS & SoFos
6m16.734s - 45x111.1 - 1332.8MHz - 5-9-7-18-60-1 – M5F - G.Skill RipjawsX-2x2GB/BBSE - 2.2V - CPU LN2 & Memory LN2
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O_o
again fredyama-san/shamino prove a great combination in 32m, check out that read MB/s
Awesome run Fredyama:up:
I need a pot badly. Lol
Dumo - 6:19:610 - 48x104.2 - 1250.5MHz - 8-10-7-21-69-1T - MVF - Gskill 2133 C8 - 1.875v - air
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Splave - 6.19.891 - 100x50 - 1300 MHz - 8-12-8-28-80-1 - ASUS MVF - G.Skill PI DDR3-2300 2x2Gb / PSC - 1.85V - Air
http://i.imgur.com/mFtiT.jpg
A bit better, still room to improve as always :)
fredyama, ,sham, andre :up:
splave :clap: psc power :D
angoholic - 6:19.688- 46x108.7 - 1304.5MHz - 8-12-9-28-80-1 - Asus Maximus V Gene - GSkill RipjawsX 2200C7 2x2GB/PSC - 1.85V - stock air
http://www.abload.de/thumb/32m_6m_19.688s_5ghzqbd6g.jpg
Nice runs Splave and Angoholic! PSC is showing its true colors :)
micro-update with 1250mhz. just can't find good enough stability or performance at 1275mhz.
cheapseats - 6:19:532 - 48x104.2 - 1250.4MHz - 9-12-8-28-84-1 - ASUS MVG - Exceleram EB3103A 4x2GB/PSC - 1.80V - air
4x2GB
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congrats to all for the great results !!!
ocxtweaker would bsod my system but 32m will be stable... reloaded os and now 32m isnt stable at identical settings. i think my psc is very tempermental with the weather... makes me want to throw them in the streets and run them over a few times.
c7 2600 is still impossible for me on air even with single sided dimms :down:
guess its time to re-think my approach and run differently for a better time.
same here, load a profile that was soilid all day last night and today it fails after 1 loop lol wait a bit and try again and its back heh
Thanks so much all for your kind words :)
It was a great pleasure benching with you at G.Skill booth, youngpro-san.
Hope to see you again next year :up:
6'16 woooooooo
amazing result.
will update tonight :D
May as well submit this one for now Honda:
Raja@ASUS - 6:18.421 - 50x100 - 2x2GB GSKILL PSC @1300MHz - 6-10-7-22-1T - 1.85v (Cascade cooled memory, air cooled CPU) - Maximus V Formula
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nice run raja!
have you noticed any difference with lower tWCL?
The results here are getting harder and harder to catch up... :D
Great run guys!
insan 6m16.734s ... n1
-updated
fredyama's crazy dram efficiency compared to pro's
dumo is top10 - frequin awesome! lol
cheapseats is top10 - welcome back to your arena!
*please others follow format, missing screenshots and wrong data-line format
This is for everybody.
1. Help me help you, link the post number, so I don't have to look for the score. TIA - thanks in advance
2. The 1st post is everybody's reference, I have an example of the data-line. If your dataline/screenshot is not following the right format then I remind everybody to follow it.
3. Data-line : Username - time(mm:ss:ms) - multi x blck - ramspeed(xxxx.yy)mhz - ram subtiming(tCL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRFC-CR) - Motherboard model - ram info/chipset - vdimm - ram cooling
“I do not have superior intelligence or super rams. I do not captivate a room or run a superpi under 5 minutes. I only succeeded because I was still working after everyone else went to sleep.”
–Greg Evans(edited)
Honda: Did I miss anything?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=1#post5110030
@maxxx you're wrong, i missed your score lol.
-updated
maxxx welcome back btw. awesome quick top20 result
Thanks Honda. Been a struggle. And still struggling to break that result.Quote:
maxxx welcome back btw. awesome quick top20 result
i dont have z77/P67 atm, only 990fx on which i tried many things and didnt see any "real difference" thats why i am waiting for others results :D
I think the data that was provided by Cheapseats is incomplete for use on IB until quantified fully. There has to be a real shift in the IMC side schedule for there to be any gain in performance. I have seen one place where the RTL remains static with a CAS shift but have not compared that against a drop in TWCL. What someone needs to do is find the RTL clock shift and then plot that against TWCL clock margins. If the RTL changes (lower) or stays static, then the performance has to increase to some extent (even if small), otherwise there will be an eventual buffer overflow.
I am busy now for the next 3 weeks so it will be a time before I get to this. I provided the approximated read equation a few pages back and how to work it all out above, so someone can run with it if they have the time, or I will get to it eventually. :)
@Hondacity, I also had an update on the same page as maxx see post 429 http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=1#post5109910
No hurry to put it up just letting you know.
excellent improvement C-N, 2600C9 is very nice :D
-updated
Honda why i dont enter the rank ? i have all done well
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...llenge!/page18
Thanks !!!
Sergio
the link you're providing leads me to no score. please correct thanks
@andresergio you can use your own format. but to be in the rankings you have to use the required format.
andressergio - 6:43.410 - 50x100 - 4x2GB PATRIOT VIPER EXTREME@ 1200MHz - 11-12-12-31-1T - 1.65v (AIR cooled memory, - WATER Cooled CPU) - ASUS Maximus Xtreme Formula IV
ZenEffect - 6:33:058 - 50x100 - 1333.8MHz - 8-11-6-19-232-1 - Gigabyte UD5 - Kingston 2333mhz 2x1gb/BBSE - 1.72v - stock air
how many seconds are you guys getting from wazza 2-3?
waza is still a challenge for me on this platform,
one thing i have noted though, as your memory timings get tighter and tighter, waza becomes more consistent,
for me when testing waza with "loose" memory secondaries my waza can swing around a bit, but when i tighten up those secondaries it becomes more consistent,
i think 2-3 seconds is a fair estimate, but it also depends on your OS, so does waza size, copy techniques, wait times, etc
Honda
i updated it thats why i linked you
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...llenge!/page18
cheers !!!
Sergio
Does wazaa on an SSD have any ill effect? My wazaa method might not be as good as the rest as it made my results 3 seconds slower. Same OS and tweaks, same wazaa as in my good ol' raptor. :confused:
I am re-checking the OS tweaks as I may have missed something. This is on WinXP. I couldn't get Win2k3 to run properly on IB (always shows 35x in the OS even though in I have it set higher in the BIOS/UEFI). lolz
TIA....
here Honda
andressergio - 6:40.561 - 50x100 - 1300MHz - 12-12-12-31-1T 1,65v - ASUS Maximus Xtreme Formula IV - 4x2GB 2400 C11 PATRIOT VIPER EXTREME/Hynix - 1.65v - Air
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GUN'G'STAR - 6:19:156 - 50x100 - 1400 - 10-12-12-21-112-1 - M5G - sams - 1,87 - all on air
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initial and 1st loop are good but rest...
looks like something wrong with my waza, am i right?
initial loop should be irrelevant for result, got 3 different, 4.313, 28x and 265 and same result.
sometimes first 5 loops are strong and then time gets worse...depends on waza yes..
anyway..strong result :cool:
Splave - 6.19.578 - 100x50 - 1300 MHz - 8-12-8-28-80-1 - ASUS MVF - G.Skill PI DDR3-2300 2x2Gb / PSC - 1.86V - Air
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Getting stronger, melting Vaseline as I type this :) (dont get a boner Honda) rofl...chip is limited to 2610mhz mem speed on air (it is worse cold) so will just be tightening timings..
Changed from 1.8gb to 3.2gb .rar, I think bigger file is necessary on SSD
@raja thanks for the answers
lol
air-sanity! dang sub 6'20s
nice run Splave!