How can you NOT call that a difference? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by SubZero.it
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How can you NOT call that a difference? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by SubZero.it
Not giving too much credit to those that still confuse TDP and power consumption.Quote:
Originally Posted by kl0012
Does that mean everyone will be searching for E0 chips?
:D
sounds like it Aussie. let me know if you see any info about batches and sh1t to keep an eye out for.
regarding IHS, thats pretty shoddy work from intel i wonder if we'll see that lapping and IHS removal becomes the way of Ivy, though there's some instant warranty void happening there and no RMA when you're binning.
i have a CPU here i should post up. was a QX6850 i won on OCAU for $30, IHS removed and the guy had cracked a die mounting the waterblock. said he just wanted it gone as it reminded him too much of the pain of popping a $1500 chip.
Just write 77W on the box, Intel! Crikey mocha...
Let me explain better, that's ok if we consider only performance...but that's hot..too much!Quote:
Originally Posted by [XC] Oj101
I would like to see a 3575K without the graphics core, this should have a 77W TDP and be less hot..or no?
What difference would it make if the GPU side is going to be shutoff if you have a discrete card in?Quote:
Originally Posted by SubZero.it
Considering the igp is gated when not in use, no.Quote:
Originally Posted by SubZero.it
Because I'm not interested in having an integrated GPUQuote:
Originally Posted by Cold Fussion
What difference does it make if it's shutoff?Quote:
Originally Posted by SubZero.it
Costs less and I won't have something i would never use..
It wouldn't cost less - it would require a different design which would cost far more than the savings in production due to the reduced die size. Especially when the IGP can be useful to even those with discrete GPU's when it comes to shutting down the discrete GPU when not in use and saving power, which makes a iGPU-free design even more of a niche for the upper midrange market.Quote:
Originally Posted by SubZero.it
There is no disadvantage of having the integerated GPU - the fact that it lowers the power density of the die also means the CPU portion is able to run cooler.
There are of course the -E models for high-end/workstation market where the objective is more for pure performance rather than balanced performance - but they come with the cost of decreased efficiency.
Usually I'd agree if not for this Lucid Virtu MVP where an integrated chip finally becomes useful.
Guys has anyone tested if the 2400 strap on a z68 (or even a p67) will now work with an Ivy CPU installed?
:)
im doubting it will.
Meh, just wondering why the 2400 strap has been on the last two chipsets and we can't even use it lol
Z77 will fix it
:D
it does:)Quote:
Originally Posted by aussie-revhead
Does that mean that if I want to overclock Ivy I'll be okay with a Z68 board? :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by l0ud_sil3nc3
Well of course, bios supports it so even if the 2400 ram setting wasn't working then you could still overclock with lower ram speeds.
:D
But what's the fun in that? I guess if I was stuck with 2133 I could mess with Hypers but my PSC likes to fly :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by aussie-revhead
Is the NDA today?
Not trying to be an a55 here, but it is always NDA for Intel, when NDA will be lifted... One is not allowed to announce the time/date that it will be lifted, before the given moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mech0z
yes according to CS, check out the Asus M4E thread, he has 2500 on PSC on Ivy w/ P67/Z68Quote:
Originally Posted by BeepBeep2
Even the 2,800 MHz multiplier shows on the MIVE, it doesn't matter though, after about 2,700 MHz the performance starts to fall away for some reason (tested on MVG).Quote:
Originally Posted by aussie-revhead
maybe its IMC...no every CPU can hit 2800 MHz RAM (second, E0=/=E1)
From a few cpu tested, not all can do 4X4 2800+ air
4x 4GB is very hard settings :)
2800 is a tuff number at least for now.
Anyone knwo if retail will have better IMC?
I'm up to DDR3-2900 to bench and DDR3-2800 stable on ambient with no tweaking other than a little extra vDIMM. How much better are you looking for?
ES or retail Hokie?Quote:
Originally Posted by hokiealumnus
ES, retail stepping AFAIK but regrettably the revision box is blank in CPUz. It's the same chip on which I'm playing with that G.Skill kit. I'm also running 2x4G, not 4x4G; I didn't realize that is what was being discussed earlier, sorry.
Love your anti-memory-post-code avatar btw. :D
Yep, 4X4 max out @ 2850 on my E0 and a tad higher on E1 air/cold. Both chips (3570K) have been binned from a bunch of samples.
Hope average retail will be as good (imc wise) if not better:)
My local MC received Ivy's shipment yesterday